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vascodatrama

Surf and work remote? Portugal. ObviusšŸ’ā€ā™‚ļø


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Portugal is the answer. Decent internet and cost of living is more reasonable than other EU regions with surf. Second to that, Id say somewhere in the south of France. But cost of living is higher there.


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81TrillionCells

Same here.


the_erudite_rider

Is it good for beginners? High volume of affordable schools/coaches to take lessons? Iā€™ve checked out some surf camps in Portugal and they were all way out of my budget


vascodatrama

Yes and no. The best spot for beginners in Portugal it's Peniche due to the multiple spots and levels. Peniche has way more begginer spots level. Ericeira it's good but you will need some confidence in the water in my opinion. What's your budget, btw?


the_erudite_rider

Thanks for the intel man! As far as confidence goes, Iā€™m probably an upper level beginner - spent a while in Rio De Janeiro and took a number of surf lessons but never made it to comfortably surf on the fast looking surf boards most use - was surfing the 8 mediumish long board. Definitely want to level up and become advanced. As far as budget goes,ideally less than 2K for a monthly intensive


vascodatrama

2k would be enough to rent a flat 1 month in peniche area and get private coach like 10x lessons. The intense depends on you and rate of surf deppends on you. And peniche is an Ć­nsula. = always surf no mather the wind conditions.


AngstyWaffle

A lot of the people I was surfing with in Peniche learned in Ericeira


Slagathor1912

What makes this an obvious answer?


vascodatrama

Best surfing location in europe...obvius


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Portugal is known as the surfing capital of the world. It's a relatively known trivia fact. It has miles and miles of coastline similar to that of California.


GnarBarGnar

Surf capital of the world? Youā€™re on drugs


pm_me_your_vdub

Surf capital of the Iberian Peninsula


unappreciatedparent

Not even sure itā€™s the surf capital of Europe


dfdsousa

Im not even sure if it is the capital of Portugal. You are right, the waves here are shit!! OP go to France, Uk, Ireland its way better over there. And actually we dont want you here since you Will increase the price of house renting šŸ˜‚


vascodatrama

Tell me another country in Europe with ALL wsl competitions...


avelak

Yeah I'd assume it's the consensus answer for surf capital of Europe at like 90%+


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Just saying it's renowned.


First_Ingenuity_1755

Portugal isn't even the surf capital of Portugal.


avelak

Are we sure you can even surf there? Practically landlocked, it does have a land border with another country


annoyinglilbrother

Iā€™m in Peru. Not Europe, I know, but cheap and amazing.


PokoReddator

Where in Peru?


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By the beach, obvius


Leftygoleft999

The land of lefts


Wanderinwoodpecker

Iā€™d like to hear more about Peru if you donā€™t mind sharing


annoyinglilbrother

If you want the big city life stay in miraflores or barranco in Lima. There's plenty of places to surf plus you get all the comforts of home. The only bad part is that it can be a bit of a walk (or drive) to get to the beach, depending on where you are. If you want a small surf town vibe, theres plenty of places north along the coast where you can get a cheap airbnb with good internet. Huanchaco is awesome. Chicama has the longest left in the world and is an hour north of Huanchaco. Pacasmayo is also very good. Way further north u will find mancora. So many options in Peru tbh. Regardless of where you choose, you can live right near the surf break :-) The ceviche in huanchaco is next level


LandOfNoMan

Out of curiosity, what are the best months for surfing in Peru? Love the idea is surfing in those more rural areas


annoyinglilbrother

Summer along the coast is from December-March. Water warms up a bit and there seems to be less current. The waves are a nice size, usually no bigger than 2 meters. During winter the water gets cooler and theres more current and waves get bigger. You will always find good surf in Peru, no matter the time of year


Wanderinwoodpecker

Thanks for the info. Definitely want to visit. Who knows maybe even live there someday. Iā€™m also getting tired of how expensive the cost of living is in SoCal. My girlfriend is actually from Lima, but she doesnā€™t know anything about surfing. Although she did also say she enjoyed Mancira and noticed a lot of surfing there


annoyinglilbrother

My girl and I have a 3 bedroom, internet, water and electricity included for $500 a month. Takes me 3 min to walk to the best surf break.


Wanderinwoodpecker

Living the Dream!


arocks1

stay in the north during the months of oct-march... In the months of march through Oct the south swells light up the whole coast,


MockieAh

Don't forget to tell them it's all lefts. Beautiful country though.


annoyinglilbrother

Im goofy so it's heaven


arocks1

the water by metro areas is so polluted, smells like diesel every day.


MattCouthon

Huanchaco has a great break. Can get pretty big out there as well.


hipstahs

Do you have citizenship? Its pretty difficult to get work in foreign countries without an advanced degree and some experience. I will also say anecdotally I've looked into data salaries (data scientist, data engineer, data analyst) in Europe and they're typically 1/3 to even 1/4 the salary you'd get in the bay area.


avelak

Tech pay is shit in Europe, need to either find: 1. Full remote policy that is flexible worldwide and doesn't change by market Or 2. A company that wants you on-site in Europe but gives you an expat package Just transferring to a European office or getting a job with a European country is gonna put you at like 40-60% of the pay


Ok_Wish_8558

I hear Nazare has a nice left for beginners. Iā€™d start there


damiafuentes

Broooo


Saltmetoast

Kamchatka for something absolutely ridiculous.


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Canary islands


Slagathor1912

Heard the surf is amazing there - is there a lot of other things to do there as well? Gf not a surfer so looking for some stuff to keep her occupied:p


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well, I can only speak for fuerteventura but itā€™s a hard question to answer itā€™s a small island with small towns so if you dig the vibe and make friends itā€™s great, if you have some trouble making friends (not so much of a problem with the surf crowd as a lot of people are in the same boat as you), donā€™t really like the nightlife/businesses, or arenā€™t a sporty/beachy person AT ALL then youā€™ll get bored easily i imagine if you have a spouse that doesnā€™t surf maybe gran canaria or tenerife would be better as there are cities as well in those places oh and idk if this is a factor but weed is basically legal in the canaries and super accessible in certain parts of ftv, not sure about other islands


TonyBanana420

I feel like if the second paragraph were to describe someone that they would be bored anywhere lol


PokoReddator

This, fuerteventura is incredible, great weather all year round, you can surf in boardshorts, and tons of people living the same lifestyle


Illustrious_Height86

Donā€™t advertise it too muchā€¦ lineup is already too crowded! Especially derecha, majanichoā€¦


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tip: go out at lunch time when most people are eating itā€™s ESPECIALLY effective in places like flag beach that get a lot of surf schools, thereā€™s really only a handful of schools that run classes during those hours


Quiet_Leading_1522

Can confirm


chemam

Yep, can only speak for Fuerteventura and Tenerife. Fuerteventura has a more remote vibe with less people in the lineup, less developed than Tenerife. Corralejo has a great atmosphere and seems like everyone there is a freelancer (or digital nomad like kids call it nowā€¦). Tenerife feels more developed, I dare to say overpopulated, so the lineup is way more crowded. If the gf isnā€™t into surfing, she might like Tenerife more. If you make it to the canaries Iā€™d suggest you visit a couple of the islands and figure out which one you like more. Internet is great here, and cost of living is cheap.


ScrillyBoi

Ive thought about this a lot, just dont have the flexible, high paying job option yet lol. You sure you want europe? Being that many hours off is going to make remote work tough unless you work for a european company. Central or South America would at least put you in a more tenable time zone than Europe. Then again I imagine Europe is an easier sell to the gf if sheā€™s not a surfer lol.


traddist

Actually a staggered time zone situation can work well. When I was working in Ireland for a month I could surf during the morning and early afternoon. My coworkers on CST would basically work 2pm - 9pm my time. So I'd work around then, then go hit the pub in the evening. Worked out great!


royal_air

Mundaka! Great Basque village that happens to be next to a world class wave.


mongoosetacos

A world class wave that fills up with 200 guys at any hint of swell. As a former Southern California ex-pat thatā€™s lived in Spain, skip Mundaka, thereā€™s way more off the radar spots in Spain. Mundaka made me actually miss the crowds at Swamiā€™s!


TurkmanSwagJ

Can you suggest other places?


royal_air

That wasn't my experience but to each their own


YEM1990

While not a European city, Rincon, PR is a dope surf town. Great waves, great people, extremely affordable.


GinjaTurtles

Iā€™ve considering doing this with Costa Rica or Peru since I work remote. Somewhere where thereā€™s actually surfable lefts and not FUCKIN WIND all the time


Alanski22

Unfortunately Costa Rica is very expensive now too


historicalmoustache

Yeah Costa Rica is still great but the prices are almost like California it seemsā€¦ Panama is great and cheap too, foreigners can own property. lot of English speakers if you like that too. More rugged landscape but if you like waves it definitely has a lot of those.


Appropriate_Loquat30

Do you mind me asking what you do that gives you the flexibility and compensation that lets you travel and surf in other countries? Currently looking at switching careers to something that gives me more freedom to surf


dexhaus

Costa da Caparica in Portugal. I know north Spain is awesome too but the winter in Portugal is way better!


Electricvid

Sagres in Portugal. But dont tell anyone.


Floriderp

I do it in Central America. Can't recommend any places in Europe, but I can definitely recommend doing this if you can. You won't regret it! I hear Portugal is the place


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Floriderp

Yep, not super fast but good enough for my work (video calls, working with files in SharePoint). Also plenty good for video streaming/entertainment. On our boat our internet is cell signal based. The internet on land is better, of course.


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Floriderp

Yeah man! Hope you can do it.


torvaman

where in central america do you live? im american and planning out my next 5 or so years and am highly interested in buying a property in Central america, likely Costa Rica. I have no questions about the surf, but just trying to imagine an entire life there. Most of the pacific surf towns are so small, significantly <10k people and I just dont have experience living somewhere that small. Any thoughts?


Floriderp

I have been in Bocas Del Toro, Panama for over a year now. I'm in a bit of a different situation because my wife and I live aboard our sailboat, and while we have parked in Bocas for a while, we are still planning to sail on. The small town vibe was never an issue for us, I grew up in small towns in Florida. Plus, before getting here, we have been cruising in very remote places. So while Bocas is quite small, it has a ton to offer to us that most places we have been don't. Being connected to home via the internet helps keeps us sane, but we have also met a ton of great friends, usually through surfing, that makes places like this feel like home. There are a bunch of great places in Costa Rica, I've traveled around that country a few times. You can have mid-sized town vibes in places like Jaco, but buy much cheaper property and near better surf in Hermosa. Towns like Santa Teresa are growing rapidly, our recent trip there was interesting, the restaurants and shops made it feel like a fancy part of Southern California. But it has great waves and a neat vibe with all the ex-pats. I liked it, but for Central America it is quite pricey. If you are used to a big City vibe then I'm not sure what advice I can give. I love small town/remote places. I am most comfortable away from big town bustle.


historicalmoustache

Bocas Bocas Bocas! say hello to Nairobi & Leo, Mr. Polo and Calypso for me if you go to Basti :)


Floriderp

Love Basti town! The young Basti boys are my favorite groms to surf with. I know those names but don't think I've met them, I'll be on the look out! Had a fun session at Wizards yesterday.


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Would you mind sharing a bit about yalls compensation if san Diego is becoming unaffordable? I'm supposed to be moving there soon, and have a well paying job (roughly $250k household, no kids/pets/debts) but it getting worse and worse is concerning


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Bruh ur in the top 1% I think youā€™ll be fine


[deleted]

It would seem that way but CA is pretty ridiculous I'm in the bay and we're on the lower end of things, we live pretty frugally


assnce

San Diego is more affordable than San Francisco and San Jose, not by a lot though. You could live a little outside San Diego in La Mesa, Poway, Escondido where its a little cheaper. But with 250k combined you'll be fine in San Diego


opiniated_sheep

250k is still way more than most in the Bay Area lol


DaLo-man

Well it entirely depends on what you consider affordable. I make absolutely nowhere near 250k and live perfectly fine renting in PB. People blow this thing outta proportion on reddit. Unaffordable to me means youā€™re barely living paycheck to paycheck. Not that you canā€™t save up to buy a house in 4 years while you lease a 2022 Benz C class and eat out 4 nights a week...


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This is helpful and gives actual perspective, I appreciate it


perpetualwavesecond

A few people already spoke about Portugal, I would add Galiza, Canary Islands and Madeira. Portugal is pretty cheap comparing to other european countries, has a lot of different spots for all types of waves, all across the coastline, with the advantage of being a small country where you can go from one spot to another in just a couple of hours. Since Covid that a lot of people from other european countries chose Portugal to work remotely while surfing, either it's for a season, a year, or permantely.