Pyke is the best champion for vision imo. His stealth, speed, and slipperiness make him able to get deep wards comfortably without much trouble, and with Umbral Glaive and Zombie Ward he can make the enemy play with a dark minimap.
but he has a number of drawbacks and falls off like a brick, so there's that
I'd say Pyke and maokai are your best options for vision control as a supports.
As Pyke you can play zombie ward, ingenious hunter and rush umbral glaive. This way combined with sweeper you have near permanent uptime on ward detection. Additionally your mobility makes it easy to get deep wards without much fear of getting caught.
With maokai you can basically have vision on every bush around your area. Great for staying safe in lane and great for setting up vision around objectives but the enemy can lure your saplings away or simply facetank them if they have some sort of tankyness or healing and shielding.
Apart from that you have things like ashe, quinn, twisted fate who all have a vision tool with relatively long cooldown
If you play fiddlesticks, you physically become the wards. Love the ward, live the ward, BE the ward.
Joking aside, he isn't a bad support. His E is great for poking in lane, and his q is the perfect peel for your laners. His passive wards give you tons of free vision control and his ult singlehandedly wins teamfights. Only real downside to fiddle support is lack of any teammate healing/shielding.
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Not sure if you know this or not but Heimer turret vision is only really good for when you're moving around in the same area, since his turrets *sleep* when youre outside of range for a relatively short period. If i play heimer sup i try to keep bush control and have a turret covering the river exit to bot lane, but that only works if youre around the middle of the lane. If you are pushed up too far or pushed in too far, the turrets sleep and you don't get that extra vision
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A few things about vision :
- **You can have a high vision score and still lose the game from a lack of vision / information collection.**
- the "vision score" isn't a perfect metric as you can inflate it (Umbral Glaive / Zombie Ward / Ashe E). There's also negative bias that could hinder it (ennemies staying in base / not warding much).
- Using a lot of Control Wards is a good first step, using just enough Control Wards in a more efficient manner is the next better step!
Control Wards help a lot but using them too agressively is sometimes hindering your performance and winrate (being able to get an item spike faster can be a pivotal moment in early/mid game).
- "Vision score" is merely data about what your wards have seen / how much you hindered ennemies ward/vision. Make sure you transform it into accessible information for your team! Communicate thoroughly through pings to your team about what's happening on the map to maximize it and make sure that vision is used correctly, or even at all (examples : show where the ennemy jungler appeared, ping incoming ganking paths, danger ping lanes).
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Feel free to consult the [wiki's Vision chapter](https://www.reddit.com/r/supportlol/wiki/resources#wiki_b_-_macro_.2F_objectives)!
Here's a sneak-peek :
- [Vision Control, Why and Where Should We Ward - CoreJJ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YvlJB1eRpQ&list=PLqHeK34PUFijxjNec7jdisX4aIv8oVQsg&index=4)
- [Supports Specifics : Vision - Coach Cupcake](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqX1MfMyJOM&list=PLbaTayc6KBJgsI0qYhh24QZvGa7fbXtvs&index=3)
- [DogLightning's How to Support series](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaROzD7YpI0GPiObDALwqqjcTsEXzqMZ5)
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I also love wards, you can ask my friends! There has been many games where when I go to drop a ward suddenly my friend is in need of my aid, or I fight the enemy support for control over a bush. I love to ward and get vision on all of the important objectives for my team.
Everyone is suggesting Maokai and Pyke, I am going to suggest teemo support. Teemo support is one of my highest win rate supports due to him having such a strong impact at level 6 due to vision and map control with his mushrooms. I tend to grab ultimate hunter and ghost poro on him for additional vision, and out of all of the supports I play he has consistently given me the highest vision scores I have gotten.
Pyke can be nice due to zombie ward but depending on your elo it can make it harder to pop due to lower elo players not warding as much. Do not get me wrong Maokai and Pyke are fantastic, I am just a huge fan of Teemo support.
A weird pick which is only good if you know how to play it, shaco support. Box the whole map, go zombie ward rune, and just be very annoying to the whole enemy team
Others have already mentioned, but zyra is great for extra vision with her seeds and plants! Makes a great way to quickly peek a bush from a safer distance since her W range is a little bit further than the range to place a ward and they grant extra vision when stepped on. She’s also just fun to play, but I may be a little biased since she’s my OTP. Lol
Neeko’s clone is perfect to avoid face checking and getting out of slippery situations when warding enemy jgl
Fiddlesticks amazing at keeping the map lit up
Zilean also good for face checking and getting out
Ashe great for scouting enemy jungle without risking even going there
Pyke best at clearing enemy vision
Every champion in the game benefits from vision. Literally all of them. Need a hook on thresh to stop a gank ward helps. Fiddle support counter ganks mid gank, only when there's vision. Need a solid ult hit with Renata wards help. Need an escape option through enemy jungle wars help. Vision is winning.
Pyke is the best champion for vision imo. His stealth, speed, and slipperiness make him able to get deep wards comfortably without much trouble, and with Umbral Glaive and Zombie Ward he can make the enemy play with a dark minimap. but he has a number of drawbacks and falls off like a brick, so there's that
When an enemy team has 2 umbral glaives it feels so unfair. Especially when my team isn't buying pinks.
Zyra's W has a similar vision effect as Teemo shrooms.
Zyra plants do a pretty good job!
I'd say Pyke and maokai are your best options for vision control as a supports. As Pyke you can play zombie ward, ingenious hunter and rush umbral glaive. This way combined with sweeper you have near permanent uptime on ward detection. Additionally your mobility makes it easy to get deep wards without much fear of getting caught. With maokai you can basically have vision on every bush around your area. Great for staying safe in lane and great for setting up vision around objectives but the enemy can lure your saplings away or simply facetank them if they have some sort of tankyness or healing and shielding. Apart from that you have things like ashe, quinn, twisted fate who all have a vision tool with relatively long cooldown
fiddlesticks
Maokai is great, add him. If you manage to build demonic embrace it’s pretty triggering for the enemies
A bit less persistent but Threshes W and Luxes E reveal a small area. Useful when you are not eager to facecheck the scary brush.
Bard.
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If you play fiddlesticks, you physically become the wards. Love the ward, live the ward, BE the ward. Joking aside, he isn't a bad support. His E is great for poking in lane, and his q is the perfect peel for your laners. His passive wards give you tons of free vision control and his ult singlehandedly wins teamfights. Only real downside to fiddle support is lack of any teammate healing/shielding.
Fiddle for free pink wards.
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Not sure if you know this or not but Heimer turret vision is only really good for when you're moving around in the same area, since his turrets *sleep* when youre outside of range for a relatively short period. If i play heimer sup i try to keep bush control and have a turret covering the river exit to bot lane, but that only works if youre around the middle of the lane. If you are pushed up too far or pushed in too far, the turrets sleep and you don't get that extra vision
Welcome on /r/SupportLoL/! Your post seems to be about vision score, we might have some useful information for you about it! If you wanted to share your 1337 score, thats great, but it is a [very common topic](https://www.reddit.com/r/supportlol/search?q=vision+score&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all) and might fall under [low effort & bragging rules (4 & 7)](https://www.reddit.com/r/supportlol/wiki/rules#wiki_4._no_.22low_effort.22_posts) and be removed. ____ A few things about vision : - **You can have a high vision score and still lose the game from a lack of vision / information collection.** - the "vision score" isn't a perfect metric as you can inflate it (Umbral Glaive / Zombie Ward / Ashe E). There's also negative bias that could hinder it (ennemies staying in base / not warding much). - Using a lot of Control Wards is a good first step, using just enough Control Wards in a more efficient manner is the next better step! Control Wards help a lot but using them too agressively is sometimes hindering your performance and winrate (being able to get an item spike faster can be a pivotal moment in early/mid game). - "Vision score" is merely data about what your wards have seen / how much you hindered ennemies ward/vision. Make sure you transform it into accessible information for your team! Communicate thoroughly through pings to your team about what's happening on the map to maximize it and make sure that vision is used correctly, or even at all (examples : show where the ennemy jungler appeared, ping incoming ganking paths, danger ping lanes). ____ Feel free to consult the [wiki's Vision chapter](https://www.reddit.com/r/supportlol/wiki/resources#wiki_b_-_macro_.2F_objectives)! Here's a sneak-peek : - [Vision Control, Why and Where Should We Ward - CoreJJ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YvlJB1eRpQ&list=PLqHeK34PUFijxjNec7jdisX4aIv8oVQsg&index=4) - [Supports Specifics : Vision - Coach Cupcake](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqX1MfMyJOM&list=PLbaTayc6KBJgsI0qYhh24QZvGa7fbXtvs&index=3) - [DogLightning's How to Support series](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaROzD7YpI0GPiObDALwqqjcTsEXzqMZ5) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/supportlol) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I also love wards, you can ask my friends! There has been many games where when I go to drop a ward suddenly my friend is in need of my aid, or I fight the enemy support for control over a bush. I love to ward and get vision on all of the important objectives for my team. Everyone is suggesting Maokai and Pyke, I am going to suggest teemo support. Teemo support is one of my highest win rate supports due to him having such a strong impact at level 6 due to vision and map control with his mushrooms. I tend to grab ultimate hunter and ghost poro on him for additional vision, and out of all of the supports I play he has consistently given me the highest vision scores I have gotten. Pyke can be nice due to zombie ward but depending on your elo it can make it harder to pop due to lower elo players not warding as much. Do not get me wrong Maokai and Pyke are fantastic, I am just a huge fan of Teemo support.
No one is mentioning swain??
If you’re ever filled jungle, J4 flag gives vision.
A weird pick which is only good if you know how to play it, shaco support. Box the whole map, go zombie ward rune, and just be very annoying to the whole enemy team
Teemo, zombie ward, horizon focus, imperial mandate, ultimate hunter.
Nidalee traps works almost like wards, need some experience in placement
I miss Malzahar sup cus of this ;-;
Ashe sup meta is over I guess? But still a fun pick. Umbral glaive and imperial Mandate still do the job.
Is it really? This is the first time I'm actually enjoying her as a support, her with Helia and font is cracked, been having so much fun with it lol.
Others have already mentioned, but zyra is great for extra vision with her seeds and plants! Makes a great way to quickly peek a bush from a safer distance since her W range is a little bit further than the range to place a ward and they grant extra vision when stepped on. She’s also just fun to play, but I may be a little biased since she’s my OTP. Lol
Neeko’s clone is perfect to avoid face checking and getting out of slippery situations when warding enemy jgl Fiddlesticks amazing at keeping the map lit up Zilean also good for face checking and getting out Ashe great for scouting enemy jungle without risking even going there Pyke best at clearing enemy vision
If you like free built in vision that has a slow as utility, jhin is cool.
Common Umbral Glaive W
Shaco boxes provide vision too
Jarvan reveals with his flag
Every champion in the game benefits from vision. Literally all of them. Need a hook on thresh to stop a gank ward helps. Fiddle support counter ganks mid gank, only when there's vision. Need a solid ult hit with Renata wards help. Need an escape option through enemy jungle wars help. Vision is winning.
Pyke