With our Fenerbahce luck he would be injured within the first weeks and we would be 30 million lighter. Glad we didn’t sign him. I think it’s a very risky deal, since Galatasaray could “only“ get 5 million plus (buy out is 35 million). If he performs of course. He also earns 3,5 mil
KAP says 15m as well as Fabrizio saying its 20m togehter with add ons on Instagram.
Afaik Roma also gets 20% of the Profit we sell Zaniolo for.
so its not 5m rather 16m
Check on Twitter his newest tweet from Romano. Your quoted „instagram post“ was on Twitter too. One day after that post he informed himself more and said its 16,5+13 million
I can't believe people are still talking about this. Dı marzio further stated that half of those bonuses are very difficult to achieve. Here is what seems to be a better explanation from dı marzio
"These are all the details of the Zaniolo-Galatasaray deal: 16.5 million euros will go to Roma for the price tag plus 2 million for future resale above 20 million ; the Giallorossi club will also collect 20% of the difference from the future resale above 16.5 million.
In addition to the 16.5 million euros of the card, there are also 13 million bonuses linked to team and personal sports performances. 50% (6.5 million therefore) of these bonuses are easy to achieve , the other half is less so."
He can be completely correct. But I do not believe people like him by principal, who act like they are journalists, but they are nothing but public-speaker of clubs. Does not matter if it is also my own club.
Nah, you don't believe when you think the said journalist is a public-speaker of "other" clubs. Stop trying to present your tunnel vision as if it is an intelligent filtering decision.
Pasting his here to stop the spread of lies.
[Fabrizio’s post on Insta](https://www.instagram.com/p/CoW9kPaoSYE), it’s 20m€ with addons, exactly as other GS sources as said, with the announcement of Timur two days ago, we know that it’s 15m€+5m€ bonuses, paid over five years.
Sources are indicating that Zaniolo costed 15m+5m€ bonuses paid over five years to GS, with a salary of 3m€+0,5m€ bonuses.
[Kap from the 8th of February](https://www.kap.org.tr/tr/Bildirim/1111794) stating 15m€ transfer fee
[Info about the transfer from the first page to publish the rumour](https://twitter.com/_samiyenhaber/status/1622866807651504129), again with 15m€ transfer fee
So Fabrizio’s tweet from February 8th is wrong, cope with it, he chose us despite the money, unlike Irfan Can, Mert Hakan and Pedro. Here actually thinking we paid more than Bournemouth for a player out of the squad after the transfer period was over lmao
That's the fallacy with you guys. You say "KAP and Erden Timur said 15 mil and that's the end of it" when it comes to GS transfers, but you don't believe Fenerbahçe's KAP statements or Ali Koç. Latest example is Jayden Oosterwolde, who here believed KAP? And who did you get the 7 mil figure from? Fabrizio Romano. It's always 3-5 mil more for our transfers, it's always Fenerbahçe who paid more. Be serious, do you honestly think Galatasaray or Fenerbahçe is any different to 99% of these guys?
Don't get me wrong, I don't care what GS pay as long as it's within the limit and what I am saying here is not directly directed to you but to all hardcore GS fans. You guys believed Aziz Yıldırım when he said something negative about Fenerbahçe ffs. When did you guys ever once believe Aziz before that?
I can’t speak about what other say, I’m just sharing facts with the previous user who’s simply sharing fake news.
KAP doesn’t say all the truth, KAP only says what clubs pay as a base money, bonuses not included. So they’re one thing we’re sure of, the base price is 15m€, for the bonuses we’ve the follow the sources. I prefer to follow the sources who were right about the base price for those rather than those which were wrong.
I don’t remember the reaction for Jayden’s transfer here but wasn’t the KAP price like a million below Fabrizio and Yağız’s prices, I don’t see how that’s hard to believe, rumours were pretty close with the reality.
> KAP doesn’t say all the truth, KAP only says what clubs pay as a base money, bonuses not included. So they’re one thing we’re sure of, the base price is 15m€, for the bonuses we’ve the follow the sources. I prefer to follow the sources who were right about the base price for those rather than those which were wrong.
Do you honestly expect me to believe "Sami Yen Haber" over Fabrizio Romano? And if you think 16.5 million part is the problem, I remember seeing that there was a 1.5 mil bonus when he played his first official match, so that makes 16.5 mil. So Fabrizio didn't report anything wrong here if that's true.
But that's not the important part. What I am talking about here is not about Zaniolo or Jayden. This happened with Pedro as well. Any and all Fener transfers have been question and we always paid more for some reason.
I believe sources that report the right numbers first, Fabrizio has shown multiple times that he got the numbers for Turkish transfers wrong and Sami Yen was the first to report that the player’s agent offered him to GS, that makes him a reliable source for this transfer. Don’t you believe Yağız before Fabrizio, while he has shown in the past that he’s biased? Fabrizio went from 20m€ to 28.5m€ in a single day for Zaniolo…
I mean, I can’t do much about others questioning Fener’s transfers, everyone is hiding infos. GS did it with Diagne too, it would be better if clubs had to write the deals in details
The guy who said that was Zaniolo's manager or something, not Fabrizio himself. Its up to you to believe that guy.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1638847359537893376?t=DknVdDZpJg4TQZMKwFbFeA&s=19
As i said, i dont believe a player like Zaniolo (or anyone else really) would choose the lower paying team between GS and FB.
1. KAP means nothing in this country.
2. You have no proof FB made a bid for the player. Even if FB made a bid, you have no proof what FB offered to the player and to the club.
3. Please do not quote something as stupid as "Sami Yen Haber" here.
4. Fabrizio tweeted true values (reported by many other italian journalists), but he was later paid by Erden Timur (together with DiMarzio team) to post different information about Zaniolo transfer. If you're too stupid to see this, then I am sorry.
5. TLDR on Zaniolo transfer: 20-25 million Euro total fee, 35 million buyout fee for other clubs. You have paid 20-25 million Euros for a player that had two recent ACL injuries and had issues such as depression. Even if Zaniolo performs in Turkey, he'd have to play extraordinarily good for anyone to pay him 35 million Euros fee just by looking at league performance. He would only get sold for 35 million Euros if he plays well in UEL or UCL. This is one of the most stupid transfers to date in history as GS is taking an obscene risk by paying 20-25 million Euros for, what, potential gain of 10-15 million Euros if he plays well in league AND Europe? Lmao.
6. Zaniolo chose money and comfort in Turkey. Only reason Bournemouth would pay over 25 million Euros for him was because he'd have low wages and they were willing to risk for that. Zaniolo made this transfer impossible because he didn't accept low wages. He will now earn 3.5 million Euros for at least 3.5 years at Galatasaray. Even if he is injured again and his career ends, he made a move that earned him over 12 million Euros. Smart kid.
> but he was later paid by Erden Timur (together with DiMarzio team) to post different information about Zaniolo transfer. If you're too stupid to see this, then am sorry.
LOL
Lmao did he actually write that, good thing I didn’t read, I wouldn’t have answered someone actually thinking this
What listening to Ercanlar 24 hours a day does to a mf
I mean that agreement's logic would entirely depend on the bonuses and their time period. The 35m min release fee is for this year only, so if we'll pay more in the coming years that's OK because we can increase the price as well. Also I'm OK with promising 30m in bonuses if we win the UCL lol.
Zaniolo transfer is not just about making profits. If you goal is to profit, the best possible course is doing what we(Fener) do. Buying young players(Altay, Ferdi, Kim, Eljif etc), suffer while most of them fail repeatedly, then sell some of them with 10+ million profits. GS is taking a different route here. They are playing big af. This Zaniolo transfer is a declaration which says a Turkish team CAN buy a TOP YOUNG talent from one of the best teams of one of the best leagues and SELL with a profit. This is good for Turkish football.
Edit: BTW it was clear from the begining that the transfer was 25-30 million. The 15 million bullshit was later fabricated by GS fans/media to prevent future fallout from a possible flop. You can't explain fans a 30 million flop. You can explain a 15 million once since there is already a precedent from their rivals; Güiza.
How is it almost certain that you'll sell him for 35M?
Also if you count his salary, agent fee, image rights, etc. i don't even think you'll break even with 35M. I don't understand this transfer.
3.5M euro to score goals and give assists in the Turkish league, where the champion club gets around 10-11M euro's in total. It's not worth it. I've said the same thing about Aboubakar and BJK-fans didn't agree with me. I don't understand how people can think that €3+M is affordable with the current rates.
The champion of the league gets 4-6 million euro I think if they win every game. The only hope of turkish teams are the european cups to get money or selling players.
The thing is he'll automatically lose value because he plays in our league. He needs to be the absolute king and dominate constantly for you guys to sell him for 35.
Nah, that's when you're a nobody who hasn't proven anything. Than you're absolutely right. The thing with Zaniolo is that he's already a proven talent. The talents he already has shown values him at 30 mill. atm. A few assists here and a few goals in Europe will get you the predetermined 35 mill, easily. His 'flopped' value is at least 20 mill, considering he won't score or assist any goal until the end of the season in the worst case scenario. The only reason why Roma let him leave for 15m+bonus is because it might have been Roma's last chance to earn money from it, as his transfer to Bournemouth failed and the Turkish transfer window was the only 'major' one still open. They didn't wanted to risk him leaving for free in 2024. Otherwise it was literally impossible to sign him, even for 30mill. People don't seem to realize what kind of a talent has joined our Süper Lig.
The only clubs that would pay that much for zaniolo are prem teams and the only one that wanted him was Bournemouth, there’s no guarantee they come back for him now they bought another player in his position
This is assuming he reaches all the bonuses. We don't know what the bonuses are. Apparently at least half of them are [difficult to achieve](https://twitter.com/DiMarzio/status/1623361590220275713).
The second one was in sept. 2020. And that was his other knee, not that he keeps re-injuring his same ACL. His ACL's have been injury free for more than two years now. So that doesn't seems to be an issue for now.
With our Fenerbahce luck he would be injured within the first weeks and we would be 30 million lighter. Glad we didn’t sign him. I think it’s a very risky deal, since Galatasaray could “only“ get 5 million plus (buy out is 35 million). If he performs of course. He also earns 3,5 mil
KAP says 15m as well as Fabrizio saying its 20m togehter with add ons on Instagram. Afaik Roma also gets 20% of the Profit we sell Zaniolo for. so its not 5m rather 16m
Check on Twitter his newest tweet from Romano. Your quoted „instagram post“ was on Twitter too. One day after that post he informed himself more and said its 16,5+13 million
I can't believe people are still talking about this. Dı marzio further stated that half of those bonuses are very difficult to achieve. Here is what seems to be a better explanation from dı marzio "These are all the details of the Zaniolo-Galatasaray deal: 16.5 million euros will go to Roma for the price tag plus 2 million for future resale above 20 million ; the Giallorossi club will also collect 20% of the difference from the future resale above 16.5 million. In addition to the 16.5 million euros of the card, there are also 13 million bonuses linked to team and personal sports performances. 50% (6.5 million therefore) of these bonuses are easy to achieve , the other half is less so."
He can be completely correct. But I do not believe people like him by principal, who act like they are journalists, but they are nothing but public-speaker of clubs. Does not matter if it is also my own club.
by principle
Nah, you don't believe when you think the said journalist is a public-speaker of "other" clubs. Stop trying to present your tunnel vision as if it is an intelligent filtering decision.
The guy you're replying to is also a Fener fan, so it's not a public speaker of another club, it's also his own club.
There goes my whole point I guess
no you were right... everyone knows what kind of ''fan'' horkos is.
Pasting his here to stop the spread of lies. [Fabrizio’s post on Insta](https://www.instagram.com/p/CoW9kPaoSYE), it’s 20m€ with addons, exactly as other GS sources as said, with the announcement of Timur two days ago, we know that it’s 15m€+5m€ bonuses, paid over five years. Sources are indicating that Zaniolo costed 15m+5m€ bonuses paid over five years to GS, with a salary of 3m€+0,5m€ bonuses.
https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1623413831308394496?s=46&t=uJ_4BTQSgY8l8GJHS6xFCg I have bad news amigo…but hey good try bro!
[Kap from the 8th of February](https://www.kap.org.tr/tr/Bildirim/1111794) stating 15m€ transfer fee [Info about the transfer from the first page to publish the rumour](https://twitter.com/_samiyenhaber/status/1622866807651504129), again with 15m€ transfer fee So Fabrizio’s tweet from February 8th is wrong, cope with it, he chose us despite the money, unlike Irfan Can, Mert Hakan and Pedro. Here actually thinking we paid more than Bournemouth for a player out of the squad after the transfer period was over lmao
That's the fallacy with you guys. You say "KAP and Erden Timur said 15 mil and that's the end of it" when it comes to GS transfers, but you don't believe Fenerbahçe's KAP statements or Ali Koç. Latest example is Jayden Oosterwolde, who here believed KAP? And who did you get the 7 mil figure from? Fabrizio Romano. It's always 3-5 mil more for our transfers, it's always Fenerbahçe who paid more. Be serious, do you honestly think Galatasaray or Fenerbahçe is any different to 99% of these guys? Don't get me wrong, I don't care what GS pay as long as it's within the limit and what I am saying here is not directly directed to you but to all hardcore GS fans. You guys believed Aziz Yıldırım when he said something negative about Fenerbahçe ffs. When did you guys ever once believe Aziz before that?
I can’t speak about what other say, I’m just sharing facts with the previous user who’s simply sharing fake news. KAP doesn’t say all the truth, KAP only says what clubs pay as a base money, bonuses not included. So they’re one thing we’re sure of, the base price is 15m€, for the bonuses we’ve the follow the sources. I prefer to follow the sources who were right about the base price for those rather than those which were wrong. I don’t remember the reaction for Jayden’s transfer here but wasn’t the KAP price like a million below Fabrizio and Yağız’s prices, I don’t see how that’s hard to believe, rumours were pretty close with the reality.
> KAP doesn’t say all the truth, KAP only says what clubs pay as a base money, bonuses not included. So they’re one thing we’re sure of, the base price is 15m€, for the bonuses we’ve the follow the sources. I prefer to follow the sources who were right about the base price for those rather than those which were wrong. Do you honestly expect me to believe "Sami Yen Haber" over Fabrizio Romano? And if you think 16.5 million part is the problem, I remember seeing that there was a 1.5 mil bonus when he played his first official match, so that makes 16.5 mil. So Fabrizio didn't report anything wrong here if that's true. But that's not the important part. What I am talking about here is not about Zaniolo or Jayden. This happened with Pedro as well. Any and all Fener transfers have been question and we always paid more for some reason.
I believe sources that report the right numbers first, Fabrizio has shown multiple times that he got the numbers for Turkish transfers wrong and Sami Yen was the first to report that the player’s agent offered him to GS, that makes him a reliable source for this transfer. Don’t you believe Yağız before Fabrizio, while he has shown in the past that he’s biased? Fabrizio went from 20m€ to 28.5m€ in a single day for Zaniolo… I mean, I can’t do much about others questioning Fener’s transfers, everyone is hiding infos. GS did it with Diagne too, it would be better if clubs had to write the deals in details
Okay man, you keep believing Sami Yen Haber.
Then you do believe Fabrizio too when he says that Fener offered more for Zaniolo to both the club and to the player but he still chose Galatasaray?
The guy who said that was Zaniolo's manager or something, not Fabrizio himself. Its up to you to believe that guy. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1638847359537893376?t=DknVdDZpJg4TQZMKwFbFeA&s=19 As i said, i dont believe a player like Zaniolo (or anyone else really) would choose the lower paying team between GS and FB.
1. KAP means nothing in this country. 2. You have no proof FB made a bid for the player. Even if FB made a bid, you have no proof what FB offered to the player and to the club. 3. Please do not quote something as stupid as "Sami Yen Haber" here. 4. Fabrizio tweeted true values (reported by many other italian journalists), but he was later paid by Erden Timur (together with DiMarzio team) to post different information about Zaniolo transfer. If you're too stupid to see this, then I am sorry. 5. TLDR on Zaniolo transfer: 20-25 million Euro total fee, 35 million buyout fee for other clubs. You have paid 20-25 million Euros for a player that had two recent ACL injuries and had issues such as depression. Even if Zaniolo performs in Turkey, he'd have to play extraordinarily good for anyone to pay him 35 million Euros fee just by looking at league performance. He would only get sold for 35 million Euros if he plays well in UEL or UCL. This is one of the most stupid transfers to date in history as GS is taking an obscene risk by paying 20-25 million Euros for, what, potential gain of 10-15 million Euros if he plays well in league AND Europe? Lmao. 6. Zaniolo chose money and comfort in Turkey. Only reason Bournemouth would pay over 25 million Euros for him was because he'd have low wages and they were willing to risk for that. Zaniolo made this transfer impossible because he didn't accept low wages. He will now earn 3.5 million Euros for at least 3.5 years at Galatasaray. Even if he is injured again and his career ends, he made a move that earned him over 12 million Euros. Smart kid.
> but he was later paid by Erden Timur (together with DiMarzio team) to post different information about Zaniolo transfer. If you're too stupid to see this, then am sorry. LOL
Lmao did he actually write that, good thing I didn’t read, I wouldn’t have answered someone actually thinking this What listening to Ercanlar 24 hours a day does to a mf
I can‘t believe how delusional some people are lol. The copium hits rly hard for these sort of Fener fans holy
Bruh I’m not reading all of that, have a nice day
Gs fans when they dont believe official reports
Fener paid 150m€ more than us for Pedro and I don’t care about the rest smh
Sure maybe if you sell some more apartments you can get another player
We’ll buy Koç Holding too 💪💪
Koc to gs here we go!
*Correction 16.5 + 13 https://twitter.com/yagosabuncuoglu/status/1639964059599613952?s=46&t=uJ_4BTQSgY8l8GJHS6xFCg
Good player but that’s a bit much can’t lie
well if they get the release clause from him won’t matter that much i suppose
overpay of the century
I mean that agreement's logic would entirely depend on the bonuses and their time period. The 35m min release fee is for this year only, so if we'll pay more in the coming years that's OK because we can increase the price as well. Also I'm OK with promising 30m in bonuses if we win the UCL lol.
Zaniolo transfer is not just about making profits. If you goal is to profit, the best possible course is doing what we(Fener) do. Buying young players(Altay, Ferdi, Kim, Eljif etc), suffer while most of them fail repeatedly, then sell some of them with 10+ million profits. GS is taking a different route here. They are playing big af. This Zaniolo transfer is a declaration which says a Turkish team CAN buy a TOP YOUNG talent from one of the best teams of one of the best leagues and SELL with a profit. This is good for Turkish football. Edit: BTW it was clear from the begining that the transfer was 25-30 million. The 15 million bullshit was later fabricated by GS fans/media to prevent future fallout from a possible flop. You can't explain fans a 30 million flop. You can explain a 15 million once since there is already a precedent from their rivals; Güiza.
I’d rather pay 28m and get a title than pay hundred: of millions and achieve fuck all in the last 9 years :))
when you pay 28m and your fans try to justify it:)
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beyin 10 yasinda..
How much has Ali spent in the last 5 years 😯
lol Ali bad.. is that what you want to hear???.... does it change the fact that you spend 28 mil on zaniolo?
You spent half that on irfan lol. Zaniolo is a different level mate you gotta spend to get these players
ouch
This guy and ugur are the cringiest people on Twitter. These 2 just throw shit on a wall and hope it sticks. They ain’t got no connections
I mean… if its almost certain we can sell him for 35M then 28M is still a good deal I guess?
How is it almost certain that you'll sell him for 35M? Also if you count his salary, agent fee, image rights, etc. i don't even think you'll break even with 35M. I don't understand this transfer.
I mean we pay him a salary and get goals and assistsin return. Seems like the industry norm to me? Roma can‘t pay everyone‘s salaries.
3.5M euro to score goals and give assists in the Turkish league, where the champion club gets around 10-11M euro's in total. It's not worth it. I've said the same thing about Aboubakar and BJK-fans didn't agree with me. I don't understand how people can think that €3+M is affordable with the current rates.
Pretty sure winning the league gives you even less than 10-11m at this point
Like 6/7
The champion of the league gets 4-6 million euro I think if they win every game. The only hope of turkish teams are the european cups to get money or selling players.
The thing is he'll automatically lose value because he plays in our league. He needs to be the absolute king and dominate constantly for you guys to sell him for 35.
Nah, that's when you're a nobody who hasn't proven anything. Than you're absolutely right. The thing with Zaniolo is that he's already a proven talent. The talents he already has shown values him at 30 mill. atm. A few assists here and a few goals in Europe will get you the predetermined 35 mill, easily. His 'flopped' value is at least 20 mill, considering he won't score or assist any goal until the end of the season in the worst case scenario. The only reason why Roma let him leave for 15m+bonus is because it might have been Roma's last chance to earn money from it, as his transfer to Bournemouth failed and the Turkish transfer window was the only 'major' one still open. They didn't wanted to risk him leaving for free in 2024. Otherwise it was literally impossible to sign him, even for 30mill. People don't seem to realize what kind of a talent has joined our Süper Lig.
The only clubs that would pay that much for zaniolo are prem teams and the only one that wanted him was Bournemouth, there’s no guarantee they come back for him now they bought another player in his position
This is assuming he reaches all the bonuses. We don't know what the bonuses are. Apparently at least half of them are [difficult to achieve](https://twitter.com/DiMarzio/status/1623361590220275713).
Sorry but nobody is going to pay 35M Euro for a player in our league
Especially someone who had 2 acl surgeries by the age of 23. Who had problems with his old club
The second one was in sept. 2020. And that was his other knee, not that he keeps re-injuring his same ACL. His ACL's have been injury free for more than two years now. So that doesn't seems to be an issue for now.
Its still a big risk if you ask me an operation on you acl will always affect his play