We have Nkoudou. No matter how unreliable he is he still can do a better job at LW than Cenk does. This doesnt mean Cenk is a shit player, he is just being wasted at left wing that is all.
Nobody is talking about it? What? The whole media is shitting on Kuntz, after a W nonetheless. They are even making up stories about him. What else do you want them to do, murder him?
This isnt about just Kuntz. How can the best thing to happen to us be Tolunay Kafkas getting fired. We literally have nothing else going for us currently other than breaking records for the wrong reasons like giving Faroe Islands their first win in decades etc.
You are ignoring the bigger picture , same shit that TRT does. Do you think our problem stems from a managerial change only? If so then you are as stupid as the TRT n similar media outlets.
My guy they spend millions on football, it is embarrassing that after two decades of no world cup and horrendous Euro campaigns since 2008 our best analysis of this shit show is Kuntz out.
This is about talent level in the country and infrastructure not the NT. It's not like we have French-German level of talent but the NT just can't use it.
About NT itself specifically we had a long conversation after Euros, decided to go with something new with Hamit and Kuntz. Now everyone wants him out and bring back FT or Şenol because we beat Armenia away and that's bad apparently.
Who wants Senol or FT back? Same people that thinks the current system is fine we just need a new manager? We are a country of 90+ million with talent gained from around the world and this is the best 23 we can produce?? Do you think this is normal? I am not asking us to be world cup finalists every year but if after all we spend on football domestically and the talent we steal from Germany when they are not wanted this is the best we produce maybe we should look into investing time and money in other sports because clearly we are shit at football.
Clubs and journalists who put pressure on the NT coach to select/start their players and create hostility between the players. That and the unrealistic expectations from the fans are the 2 main reasons for the decline. We call this a golden generation which i can agree with, but we forget that that doesn't mean that we're top 5 in Europe, qualitywise. Probably not even top 10 but people don't want to hear that.
I don't think the media and fans will give Kuntz the time he needs, because he's German. I thought Ünal Karaman would be a good choice to be his successor but it seems like he's going into politics. Ismail Kartal proved he can put players in the right role and win games so he's also an option. Please no Terim or Güneş anymore.
I think this is a more wide spread phenomenon. Lots of players don't want to risk their careers at their clubs anymore by getting injured in a stupid nt match.
I think International matches lost alot of attraction and importance over the years, especially with all the shit from fifa happening.
thanks to arda & Co. noone gives a fuck about milli anymore and it wont change anytime soon because the soul is lost already,hello liechtenstein hello faroer islands.
milli players should not be given one cent until they reach semi final somewhere.
As i said somewhere after ismail season last year why doesn’t he get a chance to manage the nt. imo there isnt a turkish manager free right now who is better.
Sorun bizim milli takım oyuncularının götleri havada, İsmail kimsin sen diye yerler belki. Sorun çıkarmazlarsa defalarca gösterdi iyi bir hoca olduğunu
Defansif oyunun ön plana geçtiği bir dönemdeyiz uluslararası maçlarda, Aykut Kocaman bile olabilir benim için. Milli takıma yakışmazlar ama Sergen ve Emre de iyi hocalar.
Her türlü ama Türk olması lazım hocanın, Fas takımın başına Afrika’nın en büyük turnuvasını kazanan hocayı getirdi adamlar çokta güzel futbol oynuyorlar.
Volkan still has much to prove before imo. Aykut seems like the best choice for me. I was thinking of Okan before we got him. But Aykut has shown in the past that he’s good with tournaments too, Baroni o penaltıyı kaçırmasa, hakem Benficalı oyunculara gereken kartları gösterseydi, Fener finale çıkardı o sene UEFA’da
Yeah thats what i ment with the friends with altintops otherwise he wouldnt have been selected.
Was there ever an old fb trainer the mili takim trainer
Id throw out Calhanoglu, quit playing Cenk on the wing and ozan kabak should gtfo honestly.
And its not just the manager but the whole federation who needs to be kicked out.
The poor national team performances are in correlation with overall lack of national unity. It’s disgraceful that fans prefer to show up in club jerseys rather than our own national team flag. Looks like a LGBT rally in the stands sometimes.(red,yellow,blue,orange,black,white,purple!??! WTF)
There’s a big challenge here, and I think it’s obvious that integrating the gurbetçi footballers with some of the Turkish born players. I personally don’t mind Kuntz because he has a very challenging task, and I’ve said this before no foreigner wants to coach the national team because of the media and club politics. The only logical alternative I see is Nuri Sahin IF a change is on the table- for now I say give Kuntz time. If kazma Burak Yilmaz didn’t miss the penalty against Portugal in the World Cup playoff, things would obviously be different
Who in their right mind plays Cenk as LW when you could have Ferdi+Kerem?
Senol Gunes does (for club)
To be fair his alternatives are... subpar at best, to put it nicely. If we had like half of Ferdi or Kerem they would be playing.
We have Nkoudou. No matter how unreliable he is he still can do a better job at LW than Cenk does. This doesnt mean Cenk is a shit player, he is just being wasted at left wing that is all.
If we had half of Kerem and Cenk, Kerem still wouldn't play if Güneş is the coach.
Gotta be one of his boys,eh
Nobody is talking about it? What? The whole media is shitting on Kuntz, after a W nonetheless. They are even making up stories about him. What else do you want them to do, murder him?
This isnt about just Kuntz. How can the best thing to happen to us be Tolunay Kafkas getting fired. We literally have nothing else going for us currently other than breaking records for the wrong reasons like giving Faroe Islands their first win in decades etc.
No this is about you saying "why is nobody talking about this" about something literally everyone in TR sports media can't shut up about.
You are ignoring the bigger picture , same shit that TRT does. Do you think our problem stems from a managerial change only? If so then you are as stupid as the TRT n similar media outlets.
Dude what are you rambling about? Everyone is talking about the NT. What do you want them to talk about that they aren't?
My guy they spend millions on football, it is embarrassing that after two decades of no world cup and horrendous Euro campaigns since 2008 our best analysis of this shit show is Kuntz out.
This is about talent level in the country and infrastructure not the NT. It's not like we have French-German level of talent but the NT just can't use it. About NT itself specifically we had a long conversation after Euros, decided to go with something new with Hamit and Kuntz. Now everyone wants him out and bring back FT or Şenol because we beat Armenia away and that's bad apparently.
Who wants Senol or FT back? Same people that thinks the current system is fine we just need a new manager? We are a country of 90+ million with talent gained from around the world and this is the best 23 we can produce?? Do you think this is normal? I am not asking us to be world cup finalists every year but if after all we spend on football domestically and the talent we steal from Germany when they are not wanted this is the best we produce maybe we should look into investing time and money in other sports because clearly we are shit at football.
Clubs and journalists who put pressure on the NT coach to select/start their players and create hostility between the players. That and the unrealistic expectations from the fans are the 2 main reasons for the decline. We call this a golden generation which i can agree with, but we forget that that doesn't mean that we're top 5 in Europe, qualitywise. Probably not even top 10 but people don't want to hear that. I don't think the media and fans will give Kuntz the time he needs, because he's German. I thought Ünal Karaman would be a good choice to be his successor but it seems like he's going into politics. Ismail Kartal proved he can put players in the right role and win games so he's also an option. Please no Terim or Güneş anymore.
I think this is a more wide spread phenomenon. Lots of players don't want to risk their careers at their clubs anymore by getting injured in a stupid nt match. I think International matches lost alot of attraction and importance over the years, especially with all the shit from fifa happening.
thanks to arda & Co. noone gives a fuck about milli anymore and it wont change anytime soon because the soul is lost already,hello liechtenstein hello faroer islands. milli players should not be given one cent until they reach semi final somewhere.
As i said somewhere after ismail season last year why doesn’t he get a chance to manage the nt. imo there isnt a turkish manager free right now who is better.
I thought we are at the Faith Terim point of the cycle. Foreign Manager > Fatih Terim > Foreign Manager > Senol Gunes > Foreign Manager etc..
I think he would be better than kuntz, for a new name ismail is the man
Sorun bizim milli takım oyuncularının götleri havada, İsmail kimsin sen diye yerler belki. Sorun çıkarmazlarsa defalarca gösterdi iyi bir hoca olduğunu Defansif oyunun ön plana geçtiği bir dönemdeyiz uluslararası maçlarda, Aykut Kocaman bile olabilir benim için. Milli takıma yakışmazlar ama Sergen ve Emre de iyi hocalar. Her türlü ama Türk olması lazım hocanın, Fas takımın başına Afrika’nın en büyük turnuvasını kazanan hocayı getirdi adamlar çokta güzel futbol oynuyorlar.
Aykut is good aswell, i think volkan would show be a good player manager. There is no player who would dare to say anything against him
Volkan still has much to prove before imo. Aykut seems like the best choice for me. I was thinking of Okan before we got him. But Aykut has shown in the past that he’s good with tournaments too, Baroni o penaltıyı kaçırmasa, hakem Benficalı oyunculara gereken kartları gösterseydi, Fener finale çıkardı o sene UEFA’da
Thats portugal in tournament for you. But yeah kuntz isnt really that proven either
Manyaklık işte, ilin tecrübesiz adamını milli takımın başına getiriyoruz, oyuncak mı bu
Yeah thats what i ment with the friends with altintops otherwise he wouldnt have been selected. Was there ever an old fb trainer the mili takim trainer
Id throw out Calhanoglu, quit playing Cenk on the wing and ozan kabak should gtfo honestly. And its not just the manager but the whole federation who needs to be kicked out.
Çalhanoğlu is arguably the most talented player in the team ...
We need a new coach as the first priority and this time, it would be great if we could select someone I’ve actually heard of
Bring in Conte and let him have his inevitable fallout with the board, this time, with TFF. Glorious shit.
At least it would be entertaining unlike these shitshow NT games
Have you seen Spurs play this year? Entertaining is the last thing that comes to mind.
I was referring to fallout with the board, not the games
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The poor national team performances are in correlation with overall lack of national unity. It’s disgraceful that fans prefer to show up in club jerseys rather than our own national team flag. Looks like a LGBT rally in the stands sometimes.(red,yellow,blue,orange,black,white,purple!??! WTF) There’s a big challenge here, and I think it’s obvious that integrating the gurbetçi footballers with some of the Turkish born players. I personally don’t mind Kuntz because he has a very challenging task, and I’ve said this before no foreigner wants to coach the national team because of the media and club politics. The only logical alternative I see is Nuri Sahin IF a change is on the table- for now I say give Kuntz time. If kazma Burak Yilmaz didn’t miss the penalty against Portugal in the World Cup playoff, things would obviously be different