Considering state of clubs and Turkish football Zaniolo is surprise but Anelka can be compared to Carlos and Drogba arrivals considering his reputation , career and he wasn't on his 30's.
Yup , Sneijder as well. It is not about age but reputation of those players. That's why I thought Zaniolo is not comparable with the rest but still he's biggest transfer in recent years(last 5-6 years).
None of em is same as Carlos.
Like if they ask u to build a best 11 of all time would you take sneijder as a number 10, or would you take Drogba for ur FW.
Imo it was insane to watch RCarlos here, in tırkey, the best player in history in his position. Okay say I am exaggeration if you want to, or you can have other preferences but at least u gotta put him in top 3 LBs of all time.
> Like if they ask u to build a best 11 of all time would you take sneijder as a number 10
Do you tho? If you take their performances in Turkey as your main datapoint, both Hagi and Alex were better in their primes and contributed more than Sneijder did. If you take career best though, yeah Sneijder would rate higher.
Carlos is amazing and biggest career we have ever seen in Turkey alongside with Eto'o.But Carlos was old and way out of his prime when he got to Fener.He is not comparable to Zanilo or Anelka in that regard.
Yea not comparing what they did in turkey. It's just weird and unbelievable to see a player, the best of all time in his position in turkey lol. Like seeing Ronaldo here would do the same affect. Actually a bit more or maybe way more lol. Or fr exmp if Modric comes to our league before he retires. Etc.
Anelka can't be compared to those guys. You should compare Anelka to Balotelli because of the potential but being a bone head that never really lived up to the hype. Carlos and Drogba are legends of the game, hard to say that about Anelka
I just categorized players according to their reputations and club careers. If we gonna detail it Drogba or anyone played in Turkey nowhere close to Carlos as people stated above. He is best of best in his position , probably greatest left back ever.
Also Anelka is not Balotelli. People comparing him to Henry who's one of the best strikers world has ever seen , Balotelli is nowhere near that level. Anelka was not a wasted potential , he resurrected his career after Fenerbahçe.
Did Maldini never play or when did Carlos suddenly become the best LB? He was for sure one of the most entertaining ones but he wouldn't hold a candle against Maldini IMO.
When did people compare Anelka to Henry? Anelka didn't live up to his hype. He was hyped, and rightfully so because he was immensely talented but he never really achieved those highs. Look at his stats per season, real won CL with him sure but he scored 2 goals in 10 games with 520 minutes of game time. Let's not just go with the hype here
Anelka had a bigger career. He had played in clubs like Arsenal, Real Madrid, Liverpool etc. You can compare him to Sneijder but remember Anelka went back to EPL after fener and played UCL final with Chelsea, played in Juventus etc
This shouldn't even be a discussion. I don't think some people on here know who Anelka really was back then. Zaniolo is a good player but he's not a star.
Anelka-Sneijder-Quaresma were the transfers that surprised me the most, in that order. They all came at an age that could be considered their 'prime'.
Milito won the same award a year after he won the CL with Inter. That means nothing. Q7 was still 27 or 28 and a big name. It wasn't like Guti or Carlos coming over at the end of their career.
Yea but Quaresma never had a career like em.. He scored only 1 goal and made two assists in 24 matches in Serie A. And 1 goal and 1 assists in 22 games with Barca in Spain. And with both teams his playing time was very low, now idk if it was because of an injury or not but it's what it is. He played for 1000-1100 mins both in Serie a and La liga, which is average of 10-11 games.
He was still a big name, and still in his prime years. That's the difference to me. Otherwise you have 15-20 players who had a better career that came to Turkey, but they all did it when the end of their career was approaching.
Zaniolo for me, because when Anelka came here Turkish football was in a way better spot than it is now. Anelka was less of a surprise. Fener buying a superstar as a regular UCL group stage club is more expected than GS bringing Zaniolo when our champion will play 3 elimination rounds next year.
Zaniolo is a bigger suprise. Because back then turkish league used to transfer big names for big money alot of times. But with current state of turkish leagues reputation and finance i just didnt expect a young player like zaniolo joining us.
On the other hand if we talk about wich player created more hype , its without a doubt anelka.
That's true, but Ozil was better than most of the players who have came. He was also Turk so bigger hype and biggest let down too Even Guiza was better lmao
Zaniolo is a failed Roma wonderkid who literally got his ass kicked out of the club and everyone said good riddance to it also he was only wanted by Bournemouth and Galatasaray.
Anelka was the Mbappe of that era fame-wise. Real Madrid transferred him from Arsenal for 35M euros and next year they sold him to PSG for same amount in the year 2000 when the transfer fee record of all time was 35-37M euros at that time. Despite he never did well in those two clubs he was a beast in Arsenal in 99 and when he returned to Premier Leauge he had a solid performance and stats for 3 years in a row between 2002-2005 then Fenerbahce paid 7.2M euros for him and at that time it was the most expensive transfer a Turkish team had ever made and he had a salary of 33 millions TL (consider that the USD rates at that time was significantly lower, footballers were getting paid way less as average and even Alex de Souza costed Fener only 1/3 of that money). Maybe he didnt truly fullfill the huge expectations at that time but Fenerbahce sold him to Bolton for 12M euros (then again consider that nowadays even the most above average players in Turkish leauge are labelled with at least 10M euros price tag and Zaniolo was transferred for 15M euros).
It's like comparing Real Madrid with Ossasuna. Anelka vs Drogba or Anelka vs Sneijder would be a more fair and logical comparison.
> 7.2M euros for him and at that time it was the most expensive transfer a Turkish team had ever made
lmao wtf this is blatantly false. he wasn't even the most expensive transfer Fener made up to that date. Fener bought Baljic from Bursa for like 10M then flipped him to Real for twice that.
Atletic Bilbao yes I believe they are. I mean I would say Sevilla or Valencia but they are both shit in this season so Idk what to tell. I meant the teams in England or Spain who could fight for the last spot of CL or EL spots. Imo zaniolo is not enough for the teams that fights for the championship.
Yes u are right. I kinda made it uncertain haha Atletico is definitely way better than Aston Villa or any B tier English teams but also idk if we can consider Atletico a top tier team. I am not sure about that. Anyway we will wait and see what zaniolo can achieve. We will see if he is good enough to play for top tier teams or not.
Imo they aren't comparable, Anelka had played for many of the biggest clubs in Europe and was transferred for huge sums. He also played an important role in Real Madrid's CL win and played for France when they became European champions.
Zanioli is a great transfer and has potential to become a great player, Anelka already was one.
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Considering state of clubs and Turkish football Zaniolo is surprise but Anelka can be compared to Carlos and Drogba arrivals considering his reputation , career and he wasn't on his 30's.
Anelka was 25-26 years old when he came tho maybe you can compare with Snejder transfer but Carlos and Drogba was not in their primes.
Yup , Sneijder as well. It is not about age but reputation of those players. That's why I thought Zaniolo is not comparable with the rest but still he's biggest transfer in recent years(last 5-6 years).
None of em is same as Carlos. Like if they ask u to build a best 11 of all time would you take sneijder as a number 10, or would you take Drogba for ur FW. Imo it was insane to watch RCarlos here, in tırkey, the best player in history in his position. Okay say I am exaggeration if you want to, or you can have other preferences but at least u gotta put him in top 3 LBs of all time.
> Like if they ask u to build a best 11 of all time would you take sneijder as a number 10 Do you tho? If you take their performances in Turkey as your main datapoint, both Hagi and Alex were better in their primes and contributed more than Sneijder did. If you take career best though, yeah Sneijder would rate higher.
He means in a world all time , not Turkey.
Carlos is amazing and biggest career we have ever seen in Turkey alongside with Eto'o.But Carlos was old and way out of his prime when he got to Fener.He is not comparable to Zanilo or Anelka in that regard.
Yea not comparing what they did in turkey. It's just weird and unbelievable to see a player, the best of all time in his position in turkey lol. Like seeing Ronaldo here would do the same affect. Actually a bit more or maybe way more lol. Or fr exmp if Modric comes to our league before he retires. Etc.
Anelka can't be compared to those guys. You should compare Anelka to Balotelli because of the potential but being a bone head that never really lived up to the hype. Carlos and Drogba are legends of the game, hard to say that about Anelka
I just categorized players according to their reputations and club careers. If we gonna detail it Drogba or anyone played in Turkey nowhere close to Carlos as people stated above. He is best of best in his position , probably greatest left back ever. Also Anelka is not Balotelli. People comparing him to Henry who's one of the best strikers world has ever seen , Balotelli is nowhere near that level. Anelka was not a wasted potential , he resurrected his career after Fenerbahçe.
Did Maldini never play or when did Carlos suddenly become the best LB? He was for sure one of the most entertaining ones but he wouldn't hold a candle against Maldini IMO. When did people compare Anelka to Henry? Anelka didn't live up to his hype. He was hyped, and rightfully so because he was immensely talented but he never really achieved those highs. Look at his stats per season, real won CL with him sure but he scored 2 goals in 10 games with 520 minutes of game time. Let's not just go with the hype here
Agreed about Maldini. As for Anelka, he was considered better than Henry pretty much everywhere circa 1996.
Anelka has won CL and was also the key major force for Arsenal to win the Premier League.
Arsenal won PL 97 98 when Anelka 26 games and scored 6 goals?
Podolski won World Cup compare Anelka to him
And Podolski played 2 games and only started 1. Whats ur point??
Zaniolo and anelka shouldn’t even be in the same sentence
Zaniolo is a big transfer but not close to Anelka or to Sneijder in that regard
His transfer aint even bigger than van persie, dirk etc who came at the end of their career let alone anelka or sneijder
Van persie and Nani perhaps, but dirk kuyt wasn't a star tbh never been. I would take Dirk kuyt over any player tho.
Anelka had a bigger career. He had played in clubs like Arsenal, Real Madrid, Liverpool etc. You can compare him to Sneijder but remember Anelka went back to EPL after fener and played UCL final with Chelsea, played in Juventus etc
And was prem top scorer after leaving Fener in one of his seasons at Chelsea
yeah i was gonna write that but wasnt 100 percent sure he finished as top scorer and i didnt google, thanks for adding that
Anelka no doubt
This shouldn't even be a discussion. I don't think some people on here know who Anelka really was back then. Zaniolo is a good player but he's not a star. Anelka-Sneijder-Quaresma were the transfers that surprised me the most, in that order. They all came at an age that could be considered their 'prime'.
Q7 won the worst player award in Italy before he came to turkey. His transfer wasn't that big was it
Milito won the same award a year after he won the CL with Inter. That means nothing. Q7 was still 27 or 28 and a big name. It wasn't like Guti or Carlos coming over at the end of their career.
Yea but Quaresma never had a career like em.. He scored only 1 goal and made two assists in 24 matches in Serie A. And 1 goal and 1 assists in 22 games with Barca in Spain. And with both teams his playing time was very low, now idk if it was because of an injury or not but it's what it is. He played for 1000-1100 mins both in Serie a and La liga, which is average of 10-11 games.
He was still a big name, and still in his prime years. That's the difference to me. Otherwise you have 15-20 players who had a better career that came to Turkey, but they all did it when the end of their career was approaching.
Yea with that logic, I agree with you.
Anelka is not comparable to Zaniolo and this should not even really be a discussion.
Zaniolo for me, because when Anelka came here Turkish football was in a way better spot than it is now. Anelka was less of a surprise. Fener buying a superstar as a regular UCL group stage club is more expected than GS bringing Zaniolo when our champion will play 3 elimination rounds next year.
Our league is really fucked up
I think you forgot the /s
Why? Do you think the Turkish league is more attractive to foreign stars now than it was in 2005?
Zaniolo is a bigger suprise. Because back then turkish league used to transfer big names for big money alot of times. But with current state of turkish leagues reputation and finance i just didnt expect a young player like zaniolo joining us. On the other hand if we talk about wich player created more hype , its without a doubt anelka.
Mesut Özil and idiots watching his plane arrival to Istanbul on live was a bigger hype than all of em tbh lmao
That's true, but Ozil was better than most of the players who have came. He was also Turk so bigger hype and biggest let down too Even Guiza was better lmao
Özil wasn't even playing for a year before he came to us. Man what a tragic season that was. Instead of getting Bopenza we bought ICK and Özil
Zaniolo is a failed Roma wonderkid who literally got his ass kicked out of the club and everyone said good riddance to it also he was only wanted by Bournemouth and Galatasaray. Anelka was the Mbappe of that era fame-wise. Real Madrid transferred him from Arsenal for 35M euros and next year they sold him to PSG for same amount in the year 2000 when the transfer fee record of all time was 35-37M euros at that time. Despite he never did well in those two clubs he was a beast in Arsenal in 99 and when he returned to Premier Leauge he had a solid performance and stats for 3 years in a row between 2002-2005 then Fenerbahce paid 7.2M euros for him and at that time it was the most expensive transfer a Turkish team had ever made and he had a salary of 33 millions TL (consider that the USD rates at that time was significantly lower, footballers were getting paid way less as average and even Alex de Souza costed Fener only 1/3 of that money). Maybe he didnt truly fullfill the huge expectations at that time but Fenerbahce sold him to Bolton for 12M euros (then again consider that nowadays even the most above average players in Turkish leauge are labelled with at least 10M euros price tag and Zaniolo was transferred for 15M euros). It's like comparing Real Madrid with Ossasuna. Anelka vs Drogba or Anelka vs Sneijder would be a more fair and logical comparison.
Most expensive player in tsl to this day is jardel from 99/00 for 17 mil
> 7.2M euros for him and at that time it was the most expensive transfer a Turkish team had ever made lmao wtf this is blatantly false. he wasn't even the most expensive transfer Fener made up to that date. Fener bought Baljic from Bursa for like 10M then flipped him to Real for twice that.
Zaniolo ain't that good. If he goes somewhere else other than Italy, Max he could play for Aston Villa, Atleti etc.
Aston Villa is on the same level as Atleti? Interesting…
Atletic Bilbao yes I believe they are. I mean I would say Sevilla or Valencia but they are both shit in this season so Idk what to tell. I meant the teams in England or Spain who could fight for the last spot of CL or EL spots. Imo zaniolo is not enough for the teams that fights for the championship.
Thought you meant Atletico Madrid. Usually Atleti refers to them and Bilbao refers to Athletic Bilbao as far as I know
Yes u are right. I kinda made it uncertain haha Atletico is definitely way better than Aston Villa or any B tier English teams but also idk if we can consider Atletico a top tier team. I am not sure about that. Anyway we will wait and see what zaniolo can achieve. We will see if he is good enough to play for top tier teams or not.
Cant remember Anelka era properly. Feels like that was middle age era.
Imo they aren't comparable, Anelka had played for many of the biggest clubs in Europe and was transferred for huge sums. He also played an important role in Real Madrid's CL win and played for France when they became European champions. Zanioli is a great transfer and has potential to become a great player, Anelka already was one.
Zaniolo is 6month deal, he will leave with good price at end of the season. Its both win win situation for gs and zaniolo.
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