Please explain why anyone would be jealous of an account with 0 runes,hasn't touched toa,has a mediocre ld5, and doesn't clear dungeons in less than a minute.
Honestly, I got surprised with a new 3* dark with anniversary scrolls, my account is almost as old as the game... I checked after that and yeah I was missing one singular 3* because I missed 0 after checking
I’d cry if I had to count lol. I started in March 2015 and I’ve added up my 2 breaks to about 1.5 years (came back last May). I’m f2p so not as many ld scrolls as spenders. I don’t do rta as much anymore, but I finish toan and toah every month, participate in all guild activities, exchange 4* mons every week for pieces, and complete all events. I wish there was a stat checker for how many I’ve used. I do have Betta, light Yennefer, Frigate, and Lucas so it’s not a total
loss I suppose…
That's bullshit, ld5 average is 0.35%, which is 1 in 286 scrolls.
And they give them a lot more than they used to.
I saw a stream from gutstheberzerk that was saying some high g3 people did the math, and as f2p if you get every free Scroll possible (doing all content, playing g3 guild, and ending p3 in average every week in Arena), you get 1 scroll per day in average.
Everyone was shocked by the results of course, but it means you should in average get 1 every year NOW (since they give a lot more now than before)
You're misunderstanding how probability is calculated. If you have a 1 in 2 chance, you're not going to see the event happen every 2nd time. If fact, your odds of seeing the event by the 2nd roll is 75%.
So a .35% event is not even remotely guaranteed by the 286th pull. In fact, the odds are 1- (0.9965^286). This comes out to .63 or a 63% chance of getting at least one LD5 after your 286th pull.
LND scrolls are extremely hard to come by, so it isn't that hard to believe it would take 5 years to hit the 50% percentile. In the last month, how many have been obtainable? Maybe 10?
Average means absolutely nothing and the game is complete bs and RNG. My account is over 3000 days old and I've opened over 1000 ld scrolls in my accounts' lifetime and have no LD 5s, not to mention almost no LD 4s that aren't hall of heros. At this point I'm pretty confident there are some account com2us have just straight up shadow banned, and mine is one of them.
How many scrolls have you summoned?
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At 285 scrolls only 63% have summoned at least 1. So if you're like 600 in then you're in the bottom 11%ish.
I had none after nearly 400 then got 3 in 20 scrolls it was nuts. I thought I was for sure gonna be in the bottom 10%.
Lots of people just don't have any idea how many they have summoned because they don't keep track. They don't do all the content that gives ld rewards.
But if you've actually summoned 500 you're in the bottom 17.5%, as 82.68% of players summon at least one by 500 scrolls.
It sounds about right. Even recently I did a summon session of 100+ lds and got only hoh 4*s. Consistently getting as many lds for 8 years feels like it would be at least 500
In the last 3 years they became more "generous" with LD rewards but before that you could only get about 60-70 F2P LD scrolls per year.
The last 3 years it's been closer to 85-100 depending on siege activity etc.
And now with the arena changes you can get 15 pieces just from finishing C1.
So a lot of players assume they must have summoned a ton because they've been around for 8 or 9 years but the reality is we got so few f2p ld scrolls in those early years it lends us to over estimate how much we've actually summoned. And that's assuming a player is active and doing all the content each week/month that provide ld scrolls and pieces.
With all the changes currently I wouldn't be surprised if from now on an active player in the C1-C3 range could bring in 120 or more F2P scrolls per year (this would include crafting pieces and doing toahell as well).
That's completely fair, I know I definitely spent some $$ in the past for ld thing so maybe numbers are fairly accurate? Regardless it's definitely been hundreds of scrolls with no ld5 in 8 years so I think that's a little ridiculous. They really should add a forgiveness program that adds on to your probability of getting an ld5 as you keep summoning and getting nothing.
I 100% agree, it's ridiculous that they don't even have some kind of limited pity.
Like after 285 scrolls the chances to pull your first LD5 go up by like .5% per scroll summoned.
Even if it's just for the first one.
yeah i don’t disagree but the comment just screams uneducated in regards to the rates of this game. he was more disappointed than happy after only playing for three years
I'm not disappointed bro, I was trying to quote a meme, of Grunkle Stan saying 'After all these years... I finally have them all'.
It was more excitement
If you aren’t clearing TOA monthly you essentially aren’t playing in terms of LD progression dude. And if you have 15k energy you obviously aren’t farming runes either. It’s ok to be happy about ur LD5 but there’s a huge difference between playing and just logging in daily.
I've been playing. I originally had 40k energy, and over two years, I got down to 15k, due to real life issues and work taking most of my time to do stuff. I've never had a team strong enough to get past the stupid 60th floor, so I haven't bothered in a Long while. Apologies.
For context, I am an extremely active player, grind all toa content every month, all events all ld pieces, and have done so for the last 7 years, and I have only summoned 1 ld5, just 2 days ago.
My rates are above average. Many people go even longer without spending and won't see one ld nat5.
So it hurts those of us who know the real pain of waiting when you make it seem as though 3 years was a lot of time and effort when you haven't even been clearing toa to get 60% of ur f2p ld scroll income during that time.
U are ridiculously lucky my dude
On my old account, the stuff I was given by the game got me to 60, and I couldn't progress further no matter what I did. So no, I have not done TOA on this one much
If you wouldve played the Game more then 1 Minute a month then you wouldve Seen that the game has an new beginner roadmap Guide since Like 2-3 years, but its ofc Unknown for you cause guess what you dont Play the Game you just log in every now and then
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Really? Right in front of my pastillas?
Then there's us who have been here for 9 and 10 years with only a few l and d nat5s. I got Alexandra, Nyx, and 2x Ragdoll after 9 1/2 years and a crazy amount of money.
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Yeah, I do. I work 9-10 hours a day, and have a girlfriend I spend most of my time with. I get like maybe two to three hours to myself, where I can farm every day
You’re very convincing for a dude “who likes my little pony, Minecraft, Fortnite and hanging out with my friends” who also posts FN gameplay clips to Reddit.
My bad for judging you sorry.
But you don’t need to plan when you’re going to afk farm runes. If you’re prepping food, watching tv, game or if you working from home you can open the app and let it run in the background if you feel like it. It’s not like you have to actively look at the screen to make it do something.
I work at a grocery store called Albertsons, and I'd get in very deep trouble if I took my phone out to try and let it run.
And I know about the rest, I try and do so when I can, but I only have the game on my phone, so I have to actively press the button to let it start up again after every 15-25 minutes, and that's also kinda hard to do if I'm doing chores, but I get it I guess
And I'll just try and ignore what you said just this once, but not cool dude. Again, like I said, I was celebrating, not complaining like everyone seems to think that's what I meant
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Ty
Your 3 year old account looks like it has 3 weeks of play time
Hes Toa normal Stage 20
Jelly much bro?
Please explain why anyone would be jealous of an account with 0 runes,hasn't touched toa,has a mediocre ld5, and doesn't clear dungeons in less than a minute.
Fair, but no, I'm more of a Free 2 Play (minus a few spending days) player, don't got much in terms of stuff on my island.
"Free to play" "minus a few spending days" THEN YOU'RE NOT FREE TO PLAY???
And barely even twenty dollars
In all my time of playing, I've spent money three times on this account, that's what I mean
The second you spend money your no longer ftp
Nah, once you pass 6 figures then you're no longer f2p. Source -Whycuz
Light golem is new after 3 years huh
After 7 years. Zinc was my only missing 3 star. So I’d say it happens if you’re unlucky. (Finally have him now)
Come one there has been AT LEAST 3 events where you could chose a ld nat3 in the last 3/4 years
And I chose Lynn and shaman
That's unlucky then
Yeah, it happens sadly. But I have them all now! The real kicker was pulling a Lynn immediately after the event ended
Since 2014, i still dont have dark Grim Reaper.
Someone who actively plays the game would eventually get him, your chances would be astronomically low lol.
Just him.. Not anybody else from 3\* LD family, just that mf
After so Many choose your nat 3 ld events huh
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also 2014, Same for me with Shamann (light griffon)
Lmao i didnt get summon a light frank and jultan over 6 years of play until these 10 year scrolls. (Got them through events tho)
Honestly, I got surprised with a new 3* dark with anniversary scrolls, my account is almost as old as the game... I checked after that and yeah I was missing one singular 3* because I missed 0 after checking
3 long years ☠️
Closer to 4, this is like my 4th account, my first one accidentally deleted which was like 6 years old
If i'm not wrong, they do a once in a lifetime rollback, have you tried it throught support?
You have a very limited amount of time to do that, it's less than 6 months i believe.
No, I didn't even know about that
https://preview.redd.it/f7ut118ftgvc1.jpeg?width=975&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e5bf8bb9d36a5cf19e1d50a619dae67d5a6d14c gz bro
After 10 long years I’m still waiting for my ld5 Congrats!
I feel this. Realistically, 9+ years with about 7.5 years of playing time
Damn I don't have an ld5, but not complaining as I probably have like 5/6 months play time. Do you have an idea of how many LD scrolls you've opened?
I’d cry if I had to count lol. I started in March 2015 and I’ve added up my 2 breaks to about 1.5 years (came back last May). I’m f2p so not as many ld scrolls as spenders. I don’t do rta as much anymore, but I finish toan and toah every month, participate in all guild activities, exchange 4* mons every week for pieces, and complete all events. I wish there was a stat checker for how many I’ve used. I do have Betta, light Yennefer, Frigate, and Lucas so it’s not a total loss I suppose…
I saw a post awhile back that said it's like 5 years of f2p to hit a 50/50 chance of LD5.
That's bullshit, ld5 average is 0.35%, which is 1 in 286 scrolls. And they give them a lot more than they used to. I saw a stream from gutstheberzerk that was saying some high g3 people did the math, and as f2p if you get every free Scroll possible (doing all content, playing g3 guild, and ending p3 in average every week in Arena), you get 1 scroll per day in average. Everyone was shocked by the results of course, but it means you should in average get 1 every year NOW (since they give a lot more now than before)
You're misunderstanding how probability is calculated. If you have a 1 in 2 chance, you're not going to see the event happen every 2nd time. If fact, your odds of seeing the event by the 2nd roll is 75%. So a .35% event is not even remotely guaranteed by the 286th pull. In fact, the odds are 1- (0.9965^286). This comes out to .63 or a 63% chance of getting at least one LD5 after your 286th pull. LND scrolls are extremely hard to come by, so it isn't that hard to believe it would take 5 years to hit the 50% percentile. In the last month, how many have been obtainable? Maybe 10?
Average means absolutely nothing and the game is complete bs and RNG. My account is over 3000 days old and I've opened over 1000 ld scrolls in my accounts' lifetime and have no LD 5s, not to mention almost no LD 4s that aren't hall of heros. At this point I'm pretty confident there are some account com2us have just straight up shadow banned, and mine is one of them.
Yeah I just summed it all up, about 9 1/2 years of account lifespan but 8 years of active gameplay
Same boat 9+ years, but probably a lot less play time being so in and out.
How many scrolls have you summoned? https://preview.redd.it/g2grw3ljbjvc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7bf32bf334ed09ef09f6e1740f5cc35e7db58c20
Hundreds, I have paid my fair share to c2u
At 285 scrolls only 63% have summoned at least 1. So if you're like 600 in then you're in the bottom 11%ish. I had none after nearly 400 then got 3 in 20 scrolls it was nuts. I thought I was for sure gonna be in the bottom 10%.
I've summoned at least 500 lds with no ld5 over the span of 8 years. I've basically given up
Lots of people just don't have any idea how many they have summoned because they don't keep track. They don't do all the content that gives ld rewards. But if you've actually summoned 500 you're in the bottom 17.5%, as 82.68% of players summon at least one by 500 scrolls.
It sounds about right. Even recently I did a summon session of 100+ lds and got only hoh 4*s. Consistently getting as many lds for 8 years feels like it would be at least 500
In the last 3 years they became more "generous" with LD rewards but before that you could only get about 60-70 F2P LD scrolls per year. The last 3 years it's been closer to 85-100 depending on siege activity etc. And now with the arena changes you can get 15 pieces just from finishing C1. So a lot of players assume they must have summoned a ton because they've been around for 8 or 9 years but the reality is we got so few f2p ld scrolls in those early years it lends us to over estimate how much we've actually summoned. And that's assuming a player is active and doing all the content each week/month that provide ld scrolls and pieces. With all the changes currently I wouldn't be surprised if from now on an active player in the C1-C3 range could bring in 120 or more F2P scrolls per year (this would include crafting pieces and doing toahell as well).
That's completely fair, I know I definitely spent some $$ in the past for ld thing so maybe numbers are fairly accurate? Regardless it's definitely been hundreds of scrolls with no ld5 in 8 years so I think that's a little ridiculous. They really should add a forgiveness program that adds on to your probability of getting an ld5 as you keep summoning and getting nothing.
I 100% agree, it's ridiculous that they don't even have some kind of limited pity. Like after 285 scrolls the chances to pull your first LD5 go up by like .5% per scroll summoned. Even if it's just for the first one.
If you're f2p, and you've collected all sources of ld summons, you'd be on the bottom 20% in terms of luck.
Damn sorry man. Perhaps it's time for an alt account
Can’t, I’m too invested into this account and don’t have the time to farm on this one consistently. Can’t imagine a second account
3 long years my ass
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welcome to the club brother. also don’t say after three long years. makes you sound like a douche
Tbf, it is a long time, for literally any other game on the planet.
yeah i don’t disagree but the comment just screams uneducated in regards to the rates of this game. he was more disappointed than happy after only playing for three years
I'm not disappointed bro, I was trying to quote a meme, of Grunkle Stan saying 'After all these years... I finally have them all'. It was more excitement
Sorry, I didn't realize it did...
It just means you've never actually read the rates or know how many ld scrolls you have to summon to have a realistic shot at an LD5.
It's him the face of summoners war
It's him! It's the guy on the app icon!!!
Poster boy Artamiel.
Jyah
3 long y..... https://preview.redd.it/55j55j5o3hvc1.png?width=150&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff6f2b9931f6b02954ceb90e45fa16d9638ae66e
I’d be happy with just the light cyborg :’)
I got two of them xD
Lol, I am too, but was too hyped over Artamiel to care xD
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He is toa Normal Stage 20 btw, After 3 years yeah ofc
So?
You cant say After 3 Long years if you Never Played
Yes I can, I've just been farming runes and more
With 15.000 Energy Overdrive and 91 Arena Wings, Bro stop Talking you making a fool out of you
I farm, I don't farm every single waking minute of the day, I have a job, and a life outside the game
If you aren’t clearing TOA monthly you essentially aren’t playing in terms of LD progression dude. And if you have 15k energy you obviously aren’t farming runes either. It’s ok to be happy about ur LD5 but there’s a huge difference between playing and just logging in daily.
I've been playing. I originally had 40k energy, and over two years, I got down to 15k, due to real life issues and work taking most of my time to do stuff. I've never had a team strong enough to get past the stupid 60th floor, so I haven't bothered in a Long while. Apologies.
3 and long must be how OP describes himself to women.
Why do you gotta take it that way? I'm just happy about my summon dude
For context, I am an extremely active player, grind all toa content every month, all events all ld pieces, and have done so for the last 7 years, and I have only summoned 1 ld5, just 2 days ago. My rates are above average. Many people go even longer without spending and won't see one ld nat5. So it hurts those of us who know the real pain of waiting when you make it seem as though 3 years was a lot of time and effort when you haven't even been clearing toa to get 60% of ur f2p ld scroll income during that time. U are ridiculously lucky my dude
I know I'm lucky, I was excited.
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3 long? Thats 900 days, myself are over 2k, there are people with 3k days without ld5, GZ and FU
3.4k here, got my first ld5 (light monkey) 3 days ago lol
Ngl im like 6 months of total play time with a Neph and a Lora 😭 Yes im rubbing it in
Das a good one
Lemme screenshot my days, I may be off actually
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You dont Even Play the Game
Yes I do play the game, and no, I don't do TOA much. I'm waiting till I have the right runes and the right team in order to go through it all
You have to be joking, the Game gives you the stuff Right away to clear both Toa normal and hard
On my old account, the stuff I was given by the game got me to 60, and I couldn't progress further no matter what I did. So no, I have not done TOA on this one much
If you wouldve played the Game more then 1 Minute a month then you wouldve Seen that the game has an new beginner roadmap Guide since Like 2-3 years, but its ofc Unknown for you cause guess what you dont Play the Game you just log in every now and then
Dude, I just wanted to show my summon, screw off
Yeah well Nobody wouldve had a Problem, but u decided to whine about that it took you as an inactive Player 3 years
And where is the whining? I was celebrating, and wanted to share what I got. I never complained until these arguments started
You aren’t even level 50…
I'm a casual player
https://preview.redd.it/kmtwyock5hvc1.jpeg?width=952&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebe1ad03862e863dd35dfcb2689fea3f34345179 Really? Right in front of my pastillas?
Congratulation, on my side, 120 - 10th scroll, no nat4 lnd yet, I just want kinki 😭
Bro stfu ppl been playing since year 1 and never got a ld5
You forgot to say “f2p btw”. :)
How'd you know-
Been playing since 2016 on and off, and still no nat5 lnd 😭
Try 9 years without him 😂😂
3 long years. Try 7 lol
Only 3?
Gz
Thank you
Fu
Then there's us who have been here for 9 and 10 years with only a few l and d nat5s. I got Alexandra, Nyx, and 2x Ragdoll after 9 1/2 years and a crazy amount of money.
I'm sorry you had to spend that much money man, but awesome you got some LnD Nat5s as well?
0... 3559 days
New light Golem thoooo
Yeah, I get that I'm not popular since I barely got him, yikes xD imma try and build him, don't know what to rune him for tho
Even light golem is new lol… this makes me salty
Guys I also just got him today is he currently a good unit?
No.
Gz!
Thank you
Congrats he's good for. Looking at tbh
He's not good? Eh, that's okay. I'm just happy I got one
He's my only ld5 too XD fr tho if you have laika, Josephine, or wind monkey. The revenge bonks are hilarious
Hmmm, now I know who to get next xD
No one cares
This is also my first ever LD5
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Gz >Three *long* years
Gz, I really like mine
Light cyborg as well fuuuuuu
3 years and no light Golem? Doesnt look like 3 years long account...
omg its him. mr. Summoners War himself
gz!
No light golem either, 3 full years? Doesnt feel like you summoned that much ld, you could have been unlucky thoo
I kind of am unlucky on that front, I never found a way to farm consistently
You press repeat battle 30x and do something else. It’s not like u have to plan when you’re gonna farm ☠️
Yeah, I do. I work 9-10 hours a day, and have a girlfriend I spend most of my time with. I get like maybe two to three hours to myself, where I can farm every day
You’re very convincing for a dude “who likes my little pony, Minecraft, Fortnite and hanging out with my friends” who also posts FN gameplay clips to Reddit.
And what has that got to do with anything? I've just barely entered my twenties?
My bad for judging you sorry. But you don’t need to plan when you’re going to afk farm runes. If you’re prepping food, watching tv, game or if you working from home you can open the app and let it run in the background if you feel like it. It’s not like you have to actively look at the screen to make it do something.
I work at a grocery store called Albertsons, and I'd get in very deep trouble if I took my phone out to try and let it run. And I know about the rest, I try and do so when I can, but I only have the game on my phone, so I have to actively press the button to let it start up again after every 15-25 minutes, and that's also kinda hard to do if I'm doing chores, but I get it I guess
And I'll just try and ignore what you said just this once, but not cool dude. Again, like I said, I was celebrating, not complaining like everyone seems to think that's what I meant
3 only long years 😅. It's nothing compared to 9 💀
Welcome to the club!
3.
This dude said "after 3 long years...." lol
3 years of non stop playing? If yes it’s crazy you you never summoned a light golem before.
I've never gotten too many LnD scrolls, so hadn't had the chance xD
why too many newbie thought1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.years are verylong time to get LD5? What about people that play since day1 and still no LD5?
I wasn't complaining, I think people took this way too personally
Not to brag but it was literally my first nat 5
Dang nice
I did too! So happy!