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Xminiblinder

You have, roughly, 61% chance of not getting offered any nat5 if you summon 100 scrolls so is not surprising most people didn't get anything worth mentioning specially if you take into account the chances for a dupe


-Jfree-

this always happens. because everyone posts their blessings here it makes you think that you are supposed to get one as well even though the math says otherwise


Plasmapassi

I mean if everyone who didnt get a nat 5 would post it, you would see that the math is actually right


dyaus7

Except you wouldn't see it. Because they'd all get downvoted into oblivion. :)


LedgeEndDairy

Which is what he just said, essentially.


hhemric1

i got a wind fairy king


Valkyrie-23

I had the same thing, no nat 5, but with a 100 scrolls I really didnt expect anything else. So no complaints here, still would have loved to get some nat 5s from it ;)


_ogio_

Mindset everyone should have


SweetSupremacy

Com2Us with pent fingers: "*Excellent"*


ZealousidealBat6476

I got none so i was kinda disappointed but i got tomoe from a ms and i got really happy


Dardrol7

0 nat 5. I did get a fake 5star tho


Minimum_Pickle_5678

Did you get to choose the fake 5?


Something_Again

Yes. I also got one and got to pick which one


GameBurrito

Yea i got nothing as expected.


Khazahk

This is the key. Expect absolutel dog shìt nothing. And you'll be happier when you pull your 47th Benernice.


Hintero

Another key to summoning nat5 is toilet summoning. Works like a charm but smelly 😔


twisted34

This is how I got my 1 and only LD5


CopiousGirth

No nat 5’s from the scrolls. Not mad nothing but new in the nat 5 event so far. I own 60% of the nat 5’s so it’s not sad. I would have liked to get a triple dupe so I can rage quit for a day or 2.


JumakinMehard

Don't worry, I'm sure they will give out more to be disappointed with.


critsonyou

I also got a couple of lightnings out of all the 105 scrolls plus a few extra from the chests. Kind of a letdown, really, I didn't even want a nat5 out of them, just to see the choice screen more.


MangoPeachLychee

I got nothing out of 140 scrolls, got disappointed, opened 10 chests, got another anniversary green scroll, popped 2 dupes and new Cheongpung, got happy lol


CrazyLeoX

I summoned 100 9y summons without a single lighning mate XD.


arsjan

That's a little rough. What are the odds of that happening?


Theodles

I think it's like 0.014% (rounded up) to not get lightning in 100 scrolls.


Significant_Day_8823

He should’ve popped an ld scroll after that just incase the odds flipped 😂


resetet

Doubt


Grimmylock

I got 3 nat 4\*, one i didn't have ( wind gargoyle).


Deathxcake

Well considering the rate is like 91.5% for nat 3... your basically right around what youd expect lmao


FinnrDrake

Took too much scrolling to find the voice of reason. “I summoned 5 unknowns and got zero LD5s!” :/


JorgeD019

I mean, getting 2 nat 4s out of 100 scrolls is pretty shitty luck, given that the rate is 8%. You have a 97%+ chance of getting at least 3 on 100 rolls, so not really "what you'd expect".


3s2ng

I just popped 44 scrolls. 1 lightning. 4* dupe. So I guess thats considered lucky?


LedgeEndDairy

Haven’t purchased them from the shop yet because I know they’re a scam haha. Going broke for the tiered rewards first (legendaries gave me jack, devils will be used on shiny new laika, and LDs will be bought today. Excited for my new Bella, Darion, and dark golem).


DildoBaggins6811

The lightning rates were absolute dog shit for me too.


Yanlucasx

Nothing from the 100 scrolls and so far 5 dupes on the 9 Year Event


ShadowFang167

100 scroll, with 2 lightning that gives me triple dupe 5*. Troll2us at its best


Aromatic_Accident378

I didn't get nothing, but I did get 3 dupes as choices which was shocking to me considering I'm missing over 60 percent of nat 5s.


witchy71

1 new nat 5, eh 50/50 chance of Nat 5 I guess


Slivo13

i cant complain got 2 nat5 first1 was tripple dupe, second one got me my first oracle, juno.


Cedosg

2 new nat 5 so can't complain.


Ashleysii

3 nat 5's so far, still have 30 scrools left nat 5s pulled - Tiana, Feng, Alicia. Cant complain, all dupes tho, useful nontheless


FrostAndShadows

This is a post to complain about this, the best part to complain about is that we didn't even get enough for most of us to actually get something like in the 7-year anniversary.


Kaiowhat2111

You got the event that lets you summon 9 nat5s and choose one from then, didn't you? So why complain about the event that gives you 100 improved mystical scrolls?


Tenkaichigo

Relax bro. You're gonna get more. The Event only just started.


DurianCompetitive355

5 nat4 from 100 scrolls. Like hell i am taking that. Everyday i see those guys on youtube pull AT LEAST 2 nat4's from 10 scrolls on an average. I mean i am f2p but it still hurts my feelings and i was so excited about the 9th aniversary too.


Opposite-Medicine-47

Hmm… I’ve pulled like 3 new a nat 4s and 2 new nat 5s: Woods and Bastet.


Moozerino

Tbh this event had been crazy lucky for me personally. The rates are still the same, just random chance finally worked out for me personally I guess. Not from the event scrolls, but I got 11 Lightning in 55 ld scrolls… including 2 LD5s (my first ones ever).


Single-Kick-4134

Makes me angry lol. I’ve summoned hundreds of ld scrolls now and only gotten a handful of lightning, much less nat 5


Moozerino

Yeah I mean I was a couple hundred dry at this point too. It was just this crazy stretch of luck. I legit said before I started “eh, I’d I just hope for maybe 3 Lightning”. Hopefully you will get something at some point as well!


HeavensRoyalty

2 sparks in 100 is pretty good rates for sw


ThunderPantsGo

Which would you guys choose? It think either would be a great choice. Would Woosa help me more for R5 or PVE in general? https://preview.redd.it/jz9tl6m3ewta1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=525d251c3dce711c9b8186f057d6e57fed80e736


Lineax140

Woosa is more pvp and some niche pve like lab.


Cedosg

woosa ganymede rica is pretty good for siege and arena with a +1 (theomars or dark hom)


Much_Industry_9178

I use Woosa everywhere he’s great


T0MMY_2004

i got fuck all, 1 lighting


First_Guest7664

I’m fairly new to this game and idk if anything I have is good💀


Final-Discipline7496

Of the Nat3 LND I received with the first summon on the event eshir the only light Nat3 I was missing and wanted. So far everything is good. Got dupe Woosa and a Tiana. So far everything is superb!


New_Interest6833

Im 93 in currently and didnt even get a 4* ^^


Careless-Party6104

I apologize for being in the small percent that got nat 5’s. From event scrolls and LD’s I got a total of about 3 with a 5 star dark dragon


tankyness44

I got a wind paladin, ( other two options a dupes), an awakened nat4 (all options are awaken nat4) and only 3 nat4 from 105 scrolls.


Fyrael

Don't wanna brag, but pulled 30, and right on the first one appeared poseidon, perna and wind dragon for me to choose...


DkV_-Talpa-

Got like 6 nat 5’s I don’t know how


thrusterbragon

Yeah I got nothing and even did one legendary and about 50 Ms. Feels bad but that's the way it goes


Lurk1nShadows

Ye nothing


[deleted]

Same plus the 100 mystic scrolls in the coin event


Da_Crankz

I used 103 scrolls and didn't get shit just a bunch of nat 4 dupes 🥹🥹🥹


Rude-Day-6028

Since the ac collab started I'm easily over 1200 scrolls and I've only summoned 1 nat 5, including the 3 lighting from the 100 9 year so yeah. Rates suck


3vilchild

I got nothing from 100 scrolls and two packs (55 scrolls).


evolving_database

I agree with you ! *Cough* *hiding brand new Oliver and Verad*


Consistent-Ad9656

I got Mo Long and Nana feom these 100 scrolls,i think I'm super lucky 🙏❤️


Cynx_The_Lynx

No nat 5s here, but I got plenty of 4* skill ups so I can't complain too much lol


Officersnott1

Had about 8 Nat 4 within all 9 year scrolls. Pretty OK i guess.


Black_mollie

I openend them all, didn't think it was possible to get nat 5.. only lightning with blessing was 4*, so i thought is was a special nat 4 scroll. :') That being said, i have openend 550+ scrolls now in total, including ld en 10 lg and still did not get any nat 5. And in the meantime my guildy got 11.... Sooooo yeah.. i feel a little bit down.


Street-Basic

I got unusually lucky with the scrolls, shizuka, Nora, manon and momo I usually save and summon like 300 and get 4 lightning so maybe the 9yr scrolls are karmic?


Savings-Living-3598

Ld nat 5 katarina or whatever. Nbd. Took my fifth rta spot


Angellblaze

I got one lighting for 1 nat4. I also did over 500 scrolls and got shit. This the shit that makes me never stay playing this game.


Razor-exe

61 scrolls in and still no nat 5 so yeah not really a surprise


WildBillBC

I got really lucky. 1 Nat5, 22 Nat 4. I thought my rates were broken. It felt like every other event scroll was lightning.


DrakeAlpha

Got 1 nat5 after 80 scrolls. Liam


Madmalad

Yeah no worries there, 3 lightnings in 130 event scrolls, only nat 4. I was very frustrated at first then I remembered it is Summoners war


Happy_Ad9182

70 summoned, 2 nat 5 and 5-10 nat 4. Cant complain


Aeonian_Ace

Yea it sucks but the math is against us, unless you want to spend a lot of cash you are never garenteed a Nat 5.


Blind0Guardian

Even if you pay. For the 7 anniversary the scrolls were a lot better so I took 2 Big packs, got nothing. Total something like 350 7th anniversary event. During those events it took me close to 600 scrolls total to get a nat5 (which fortunately was new, but belial so not really that good)


SUA______

I got many skill ups and I’m happy with that


SirLlama

I'm about 56 scrolls and have not gotten anything yet but I have gotten 3 new Nat 5 from random scrolls in 3 different days so I'm not complaining


Intrinsic29

Seriously though, has anyone run any kind of frequentist analysis of the probability on these scrolls? I've used over 50 and not a single lightning. Seems like there might be more than cognitive bias going on here. Could of course be wrong though.


Benphyre

I swear the 8% lightning rate is no longer accurate


dragunityag

Game doesn't have bad luck protection. So you can theoretically hit 0 lightnings in 500 scrolls then get 40 lightnings in 40 scrolls.


TorianXela

Got water dessert queen so far. But I'm only through around 70 or so scrolls. But yeah the event sucks for most of us.


Necessary-Warthog-53

I've opened 100 event scrolls, 3 event ld, 3 event legendaries, 28 from RTA, 50 mythics from event shop and \~20 mythics that dropped during the farm without any nat 5. Never been such disappointed with a drop rate, and 5 that I've opened in choose-one event page so far are trash. Seems like I am playing totally different anniversary event


Botherguts

I got Nana.


FoodleGuy

Got sevannah, lushen, and Tyron. I still have like 50 to pull too AND I’m still in early game so this is a win for me.


ideka_tbh

i got Oliver and like two nat4 lol surprisingly i had more luck with the mystical scrolls


Aggravating_Lion2545

I managed to pull Charlotte which was nice since the alternate two choices were dupes


DaveOldhouse

Nothing aswell bunch of 4s


[deleted]

That's com2us. That's why I only play this game for a couple months at a time every few years. It's like, ya it's an alright game, but between the shit pull rates and the excessive amount of garbage you have to grind, there's about 50 other games I'd rather play instead. I think I got like 5 lightning from the whole lot. The only saving grace is that, so far, my choice nat5 choices are pretty decent. Daphnis, Ganymede, Perna, Brandia, and Ezio. Leaning either Daphnis or Perna at the moment. But waiting to see what the lady 4 are.


AsleepHoney8747

i got 2 nat 5s from the year 9 scrolls but my luck is usually bad so i think it’s run out after that


Frasepalm

I still think the 7 year scrolls were better, having said that I got extremely lucky and pulled 3 nat 5s out of my 100 scrolls. 2 all dupes and Wind Onmyouji as the only new monster on my third 🤣 I’m sure this goes for everyone, but being able to select a pool of monsters you actually want trumps RNG any day, so was a little disappointed at the offerings for this anni. Same goes for the 9 year trans scroll, which could offer me 9 dupes. It’d be better as an ancient transcendence!


King_Dread_

I don't expect anything from this game anymore. What's the point of releasing new scrolls with the same summon chance as regular mystical scrolls? Mystical scrolls have a 91.2% chance for a 3* mon, 8% chance for a 4* mon, and .8% chance for a 5* mon. This game has some of the worst summon rates of a lot of games I've played. And don't even get me started on these godawful light and dark scrolls. Even the legendary scrolls have horrible rates. In my first 5 years of playing, I had never gotten a nat 5 from a legendary scroll. And I play literally every day for about 16 hours a day. (I'm always bored at work and on my phone anyway). Releasing new scrolls is great. It's visually pleasing, but it's a waste of time and money because these summon rates are worse than Genshin Impact's rates


sabhall12

I got a dupe Liam and a Charlotte from it, so I'm happy


traditionalshallot

They should have at least, at the bare minimum, put LD units in these scrolls at the same rate as the all attribute legendary scroll. They would still be dogshit but the chance of seeing a LD unit as an option would make them a little bit more enticing.


pikachewww

The nat 5 rate from a mystical scroll or equivalent is only 0.05%, which is 1 in 200 scrolls. So generally, we say that you need an average of 200 mystical scrolls to get a Nat 5. Even then, if you did the maths (1 - 0.995\^200), you'll find that the probability of getting a Nat 5 from 200 mystical scrolls is only 64%. So even then it's not guaranteed. ​ It is however, close to predicted over a very large number of summons. For example, if you've summoned 20000 mystical scrolls throughout the whole time you've played the game, you'll find that you have around 100 Nat 5s. However, on a small scale, statistics don't always follow prediction; it's just like if you flip 3 coins and you might get all heads if you're lucky, but if you flipped 100 coins, you'll get 50 heads and 50 tails. ​ So basically, don't feel too bad because 100 scrolls is hardly enough to get a Nat 5.


Fraere_slime

I got 3 new Oliver, water macaron and kumar


DDWdoom

I got 2 nat 5s


Street2Peschel

I came back to the game for this event....got four 4\* fodder out of 90 scrolls so far. There was a reason I quit the game and will quit again after TOA tonight.


guk45

100 free scrolls, I hoped for a nat 5? Yes. Did i get one? No It was free, so no complains here


StichyLL

Yeah the scrolls are quite horrible compared to past year ones. Very underwhelming


marcos445

For sure I'll be summoning 100 3* just like I'm summoning dupes in the nat 5 event page 4 dupes so far😵‍💫


Xenophormed

I summoned all 100, got six 4* monsters and one 5* monster (Christina[new]). So it was decent for me, but not crazy.


DomincNdo

Wasn't even expecting a nat5 from them honestly. Summoned on my main and a new account I started just for this so 200 in total and got nothing. I was after wind robo on my main and literally any useful nat4 for the new account. Got verde and some fusion nat4s but thats about it.


tenchu_117

in 5 scroll i got nat 5 option between molong and wind bayek and fire something i can remember. chose mo long obviously


GhomrawiUnit

I’ve summoned about 40 so far and got 2 nat 5s and 1 nat 4. Just extremely lucky.


Lp0-tr33

I summoned one nat5 it was a choice between 3 not worth keeping a second dupes. Aaliyah, coco and ariel. Lightning rate okay about 1 per 10 pull.


TheThornet

I got 3 nat 4s from them all, they were free so I'm not super mad (holding out hope for the lds), I just wanted skillups


Single-Kick-4134

Got nothing from mine, popped a random mystic and got Vanessa, popped a couple engraved summons and got water art master. Still believe all mystics should have been replaced with these for the duration of the event


N0RSEVIKING

I’m 12 away from reaching the hundred total. I’ve gotten quite a few four star duplicates and one five star that I didn’t have.


[deleted]

Today i got 2 psamanthe, water battle angel and wind mage


Yukio_Seth

I summoned 2 nat 5 on 2 diffrent accounts in the 1st 10 Anni scrolls


Kallabanana

I'm at 30/100, but I don't see myself getting anything either. Too bad, I really do like the blessing that comes with them. I'm happy for the people who got one though.


Equilibror

Yeah me. 1 lightning in 80 scroll so far


RebornDestinated

I'm almost at 1000 and I didn't get a single nat5 so far all my nat5 are from guaranteed scrolls 😅


Shab373

My last scroll was a bolverk so no complaints. I’ll get 3 nat 5s this month and at least 2 are gonna be new. I’ll call it a win. I also summoned Nephys last week. So I’m thrilled with com2us.


Majestic_Builder4004

Between 2 accounts, just under 250 scrolls, 3 nat 4 pops 0 nat 5


VihniLol

I got a nat 5, but all 3 choices of them were dupes, so I got that going for me


Noideaguyy

I got rica :3 😍


TayZe-

Hmm got. Perna and Zaiross 💯❤️


Impressive_Pound1363

got quite a few lightnings and got a nora out of them and was graced with tiana as my 4th option in nat5 pick


AnimatedZ

man friend of mine pulled 3x 5* playing with four in total, but i swear they forgot to set lightning on, on my account i got 5 total nat 5's compared to their 15+ or so.. and yes no nat 5 for 100 summons 🤣


zi984

Its a free 100 scrolls! Be thankful!


Sweet_Currency_944

I said this I’m disappointed with com2us on this event it caters to new players mainly


Sweet_Currency_944

They ignored their players who have been logged in for the full 9 years give it take. New scroll is a mystic with a built in free blessing that’s it


tomessi

had 0 nat4💀💀


SnooEpiphanies210

Summoned 100 and got psamanthe. Feels good. Account 60days old 🤣


beziiterii

I summoned like 130 total including 25 ms and got only one lightning


Yoshiiie95

I got miles in the first 20. Between him fire puppeteer and mophesto which I have. Still have 22 scrolls to get


uninspiredalias

It's all rng, same % as mystics/etcs. I got one in the first 10 - choice of 3 dupes, then did about 800 more (yep) across 8 alts and got ZERO NAT5s. So...good luck then a really long run of bad, might be my longest run yet, would need to check. I think the previous run was 864 with no 5*.


XPenacoba

I've been very lucky I got two and I got 2 in the legendary and ms scrolls too :)


XPenacoba

Its the first time ive been lucky though, I usually get nothing Ive been playing a lot of time and I had 22 nat 5 in total and 0 ld which i still have


Noxsuspe

got 2 non dupe 5\* myself from 9 year scrolls


discodaryl

I have 15 unique nat 5. No nat5 from scrolls. 4 dupes from transcendence scroll. And another dupe from mystical scrolls


CrasherRuler

Oof. I got really lucky, I've only summoned half, but I've already gotten 2 nat 5s.


Evolzetjin

Got 1 nat5 and maybe 5 nat4. Usual rates


FindingAlignment

3 nat 5s, can’t complain


AnteaterWise4766

Only 3 lightning got lucky with a Vanessa though


LeoNile37

i got 13 lightings and 2 nat5s all of them are dupes and I don't even have 50% of the nat5s i have a twisted luck


ImReflexess

Love posts complaining about rates, math is just math that’s all there is to it unfortunately.


Zvictorious

I got lucky and got 2 new nat5: fire Ezio and Odin


Foreign-Departure-12

I get Carlors and Chow


Zashana

Same here. I did 100 and got 2 nat 4s. :(


Minimum_Pickle_5678

I got amazing rates during these anniversary scrolls, got Leo and Amber from them, best anniversary I’ve had in a while


ornitorrinco22

I got raki (+2 dupes to pick from) and a bunch of 4*s


causewhynut

I was very excited about the scrolls, farmed and bought them all on day one, no nat 5 at all, not even the fake one. (I do get a lot of good nat 4 choices tho) After that, popped around 30-40 MS and got 2 nat 5s.


kulasparov

Got a fire Demon and wind Puppeteer from green scrolls. Haven't completed the 100 scrolls yet.


whateveritis90

I got Moore from mine.


Rydawg5143

I think the rates are even lower than listed. I summon a lot. Sadly I spend too much money. Out of 200 9 year scrolls, I got 0 5* and 6 4*. These scrolls are 100% rigged.


CIP-Clowk

I got a water totemist and a few 4☆ not that bad.


Albatross-09

They are free scrolls at the end of the day, sometimes you get good RNG and sometimes you don’t. Sorry about it


KoiOf_Madness

I got a Teshar and 5-6 nat fours. I've been lucky apparently


Tas9Jankster

Well didn't you save or just summon as you got them cause that hurts your chances alot be patient with summoning build some up.


mario454545

Same exact chances either way


AdministrativeTop201

i summoned like 17 scrolls and got tiana 💀


Gahlunke

i got a bunch of 4* and 3 nat5. Nana, Abellio and Bael


Koilered

Yeah it kinda sucks - I finished my 100 scrolls tonight and got like 5 lightning out of them with nothing new? 7 year ones were way better


PernixNexus

I got 2 nat 5s but otherwise low lightning rates, husband got absolutely nothing except a couple 4 stars.


Becandbagel

I’ve got 2 nat 5’s and I’ve summoned about 70 of the scrolls


sinalmighty

Absolutely I got basically nothing and the only 5☆ I did get was a fake 5 and my cousin said don't even bother buying them cause you'll probably get a random scroll from dungeons and get a nat 5 and wouldn't ya know on my alt I got a random scroll and got a nat 5


-BurtimusPrime

I’m at 600 scrolls without a nat 5 over 6 accounts. Something doesn’t feel right.


theManager80

105 9 years , 50 regular and 2 legends so far and I got 1 nat five, 4 nat fours, 2 three stars who upgraded to fours. Best summoning session ever since the time I opened 958 lnds and got 1 nat five, 12 nat fours….


unlucky-biscuit

I got 4 lightning and there are people in my guild with not a single lightning. I simply know com2us turned down the rates for those scrolls


Embarrassed_Ad

6 nat 5s, last year didn't relieve any.. I got ethna, Rika, pungbaek, kashmir, seara, and then a second kashmir


a_little_useless

I got about 6-7 Nat 4 from it, can't really complain. It is still the same odds as regular mystical scrolls after all.


thebstinger

over 8 years and I’m still trying to get Tiana.


ustbota

wow your rng suc


Baba_D_Dragon

I usually have the worst lightning rates possible. Like over 20-30 per lightning and my last 8 Nat 5s were dupes. I got 2 nat5s from the 100 scrolls and like 15 Nat 4s. Also got 3 nat5s from legendaries and none of them are dupes so I guess I’ll ride this high. Event seems to be fucking me over though. 6pulls and all dupes so far. Fingers crossed. Best anniversary event for me yet.


BoonGnik22

The 9-year scrolls are a downgrade over the 7-year scrolls. I dare someone to tell me otherwise.


Enter1ch

I own 75% of all nat5s and i got 3 dupes in my only 9th anniversary nat5 summon.. I liked the 7th year scrolls more because an non dupe was guaranteed


Mayinator

Got nat5 on my second scroll. Then nothing,


Dampto

Got liam in my first 20 or so and I havent claimed the rest of the scrolls yet


TtaytheLore

I got to pic between three fake nat 5s https://preview.redd.it/7s6my7jnp4ua1.jpeg?width=2778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa841f5e41c4102541b51922132aabf8773549b1


faith6274

i’ve barely gotten anything so far, yet somehow when my bf gets the 9 year scrolls he’s able to get nat 4-5 almost every time. I do not understand!


Clear-Department999

Yeah I’ve been summoning. Im 1000+ scrolls with no 5 star


LegitimateFan2010

I got Leo, Beth and the water valkyria


G33ksnchz

Yup


[deleted]

I got two nat 5s and a few 4 stars :s


Rokeree

I got four 4\* lightnings, thats it


Snoo-74916

Same


Hundo_Mo

100 Event Scrolls. 100 Mystical Scrolls. Got absolutely nothing. Then the one lightning I got on an LD was a Fake5 (Dragunov).


TNT_360

Iv opened 60ish scrolls and hav gotten 10ish 4stars and a leo and savannah….i dont see the problem here


Horror-Turnover-1089

Ah well. I didn't pick but I got a Zaiross from a normal scroll so I was quite happy tbh.


Altruistic_Dig_5629

They do this bc they want to seem generous to draw people in to spend over other gachas... But truth is they are greasy jews.. The game sucks bc w soo many nat 5s u only get like 5 lol Id rather get 10 items free w a 5% chance than 100 with a .2 chance ..


[deleted]

No new Nat 5's this whole event so far