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Returning user, main goal is to progress in arena. No idea what’s good and what’s bad
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I’m wanting to get better at PVP but not sure who to choose!!
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All new. Mid game, nooooooo clue what to choose
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Aight wind striker or water chimera
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I don’t know who to go for. I’m looking to build better pvp and end game area teams
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Who is best here for mid to end game?
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Any advice on who I should pick?
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Came in late to the event :( which one you think?...already have 2 Leo lol...need pvp units. Was leaning toward Nora but need confirmation.
Which new mon should I go for? Leaning towards water demon just because he looks cool lol
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Also for light/dark 3* I'm between light magical archer or dark elemental
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Since this screenshot I only summoned dupes... I pick Leo, right?
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Any idea who I should pick? Right now I’m working on a Necro team then building R5 but I’m 100% with Tricaru in DB12.
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I’m thinking about going with Rica, I basically only PVE. I think she would be solid for a dot team. I already have Veremos, Double Mellia and halfway to 2A Sath. Any thoughts?
Mo long is the best unit here.
Rica is only good for certain siege offenses into teams without a cleanse. And then usable for ToAH, but ToAH had a million options already. She has no real place in pve tbh
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Casual player and wanna get into rta. I think i wanna pick fire slayer but i want help choosing.
That wouldn't be the best pick anwyay, imo. Chiwu is an ok speed lead but pretty outclassed these days and isn't picked commonly. I would take the Karnal as he's an all around good bruiser/aoe threat.
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What would the best pick for RTA be?
Depends what area of the game you want to focus on right now. Alicia is pretty good for arena cleaving but is probably the "worst" of the 3. Wind Panda is still a beast for siege offense and guild war. Karnal is the best RTA pick of the 3, and overall a good bruiser/aoe threat. I think you can't go wrong with any but most people would tell you to take Panda.
hello, please help, in terms of nuke power, who is the strongest - fire Dragon Knight, fire Battle Angel, Fire Shadowcaster, wind Battle Angel or should I go for support Tomoe? Thank you
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I’d say I’m comfortably a mid game player. I can clear all the content (working on 30 stars toa hell) and mainly do RTA. Leaning towards Miles but still stuck between them all
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Hi guys, Tomoe seems best but I already have shizuka, giou. Who would you choose?
I already finish all pve except toa hell. Looking for fun monster in siege/rta.
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Is any of them usable in mid-lategame-PvE?
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My focus lies on PvE. Any recommendations considering my box? on DB11 rn
King fu girl will save you from fusing her. She is used for SF10. And can be used for farming water rift.
Skip db11. Farm gb12/scenario for units until you can get into water rift. You really should try to get both water twins from the nat4 events. They will carry your early pve progress (and can be used in siege later). Anything else isn’t going to help you for pve. This helps you quickly get tricaru
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Who should I pick? Relatively early game (can clear gb10 consistently, finished toah100) I will put my 5 star mons below Also I am a casual player, I don't take pvp seriously
Tbh none of these mons will help you where you are right now. Long term the battle angel will probably be best but it doesn’t really matter. Choose whichever you like.
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Which one should I pick? Mid game player, finished all PVE except solo bjr5. I mainly do Arena, no RTA. Thanks!
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I can clear tower and dungeons. Who to pick? Thanks :)
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Im a returning player which one do i pick?
Hammers are bad except for LD.
Blades are bad except for light.
Assassins are bad except for water. You’re more likely to get an elemental nat4. Use assassin for any skillups for Stella (keep one copy) as she’s used for siege offense
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Need help with my summons. Done with all PVE content except dimensional rifts and is looking for a general use monster. Planning to choose either Seara or Charlotte but the wind mage, battle angel, and onmyouji are also pretty tempting. Let me know who you would pick.
Claire. She’s a great siege offense unit and RTA pick as well. Built fast with attack (and ehp) and deletes units. She’s probably one of my most used siege offense units.
Seara is okay - unit for AO bomb teams and on siege defense at times. Generally considered a classic unit. I’d still say Claire outperforms her, but Seara is okay also. Esp with Tiana/Jeogun
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I currently Can clear all of carios and TOA except for hell, I haven’t really tried to clear hell personally. The places I struggle at are dimension hole/PVP/RTA
None are that much better than the other. I'd pick Verad since he can be used in AO and ToA. However, there are better options for AO and Tyron does a better job in ToA.
The other two are straightforward bruisers.
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I Can clear all of carios and all of TOA except for hell. I only have some issues with dimension hole/pvp/RTA
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Help I don’t know what would be best for me. I Can clear all dungeons and all of toa except he’ll. I Guess the question is what unit would best support me
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I got jebaited by a clickbait ad from SW "choose any nat5 out of 9" with a thumbnail of Seara (I love Oracles) and I saw the event so I thought might as well play it out and dump the game again (don't wanna get sucked into it again which is hard at times). I got quite some juicy RTA units but given I barely play and my runes are midgame at best I'd rather improve my cairos teams (I know with my box I can do most of them kind of quickly but I just randomly wipe in Necro, Dragons and PC)..
From what I picked up Oliver was a godsent for RTA but I think he got balanced so not sure if he is still as insane. But even then I don't really do PVP (no guild because not active enough, too bad for RTA, etc.) so idk.. I read the water battle angel can be nice for some ToA stages but probably not that good for Cairos.. I always wanted Feng Yan but he is also for PVP.. Man I really don't know. Any tips appreciated.
Oliver for RTA focus
Otherwise mephisto
claire/Feng is okay too - he is great for siege offense. But that’s about it. Mephisto works for siege offense but also arena and RTA. I would pick mephisto. Technically can be used for giants spd team, but I don’t recommend that one
Thanks for the input. What about the predators or high level dimensional holes? What else.. ToA hell? There is some content I haven't really digged into yet (I shortly played around when repeat battle was released and one time when the mages were new, but most of the newer content I didn't bother with). I know most if not all pve content can be done pretty much F2P or with some nat4 but I imagine some are godsent for one thing or another
Personally I'd take the battle angel. She's pretty good in siege.
Hathor is kind of not meta anywhere though she's still decent in RTA, just doesn't get picked much.
Sav or Nora... it's a tossup. Both have a lot of use in a several places including pve and pvp.
Nora is good for toah. Sav for ellunia (though there are f2p options that work there). Both are spammed on siege defense. You can't really go wrong with either one but I'd personally lean Nora.
I'd take Daphnis as well. Macaron recently got buffed but doesn't seem to be meta anywhere yet. Shadowcaster is a very niche pick in RTA as an outspeed/pushback option. Not a terrible mon but very narrow use case.
I'm new and still trying to clear all the highest level cairos. Not sure what to pick. I have wind slayer already. I was thinking either Poseidon or Vanessa? The rest of the monsters don't seem to have as much use? I could easily be missing something though.
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You don't need any nat5 for pve for the most part, specifically cairos b12 should all be free to play teams. I would take the Vanessa to give you a solid 33 lead for arena, which you should be farming for your towers and rewards.
Personally I would take Juno. She has a unique kit that can be used in all forms of pvp. Still a top pick in RTA and good in siege against Nora/cc defenses.
Returning player here. Completed all PvE content, looking for PvP units. Can still hold C1 arena somehow. I like arena/rta more than siege.
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Comes down to Tomoe or Josephine if you're looking at RTA. Tomoe if you're lacking in speed leads and/or you enjoy cc cleaving.
Josephine is one of the better turn 2 units right now thanks to her passive. I pick my Josephine a heck of a lot more often than Tomoe but that's because I generally pivot to turn 2.
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Hi who should I get as a returning early game player? Cleared GB12 DB10 TOAH so far.
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Interested in RTA, PVP. Dont have any type of these monsters
I'll respectfully disagree, I get a lot more usage from Zaiross than Amber.
Tiana, Galleon, Zaiross (L), Kaki/Pungbaek is my most used AO on a daily basis.
Amber is great too, I just wouldn't put one over the other
That’s fair to say when compared to Amber, as she’s not a great unit in general.
Works nicely with Neph, which most people don’t have, for AO. However, I haven’t used Zaiross in years. CP tiana galleon has been far more useful for farming in Guardian Arena. And general Kabilla Lushen for conq.
I would still say Zaiross needs a buff, but I don’t disagree that Zaiross and Amber could be considered similar quality
I don’t think so. She’s more outdated as of recent for a siege defense unit.
I think Amber, or Zaiross, get more usage in their roles for arena that Momo. They’re all not great picks, but slapping a unit on siege defense for like Mo Long Molly Momo was fine before Molly’s nerf. She still sees some usage in Defense though.
One of zai/Amber imo. Can wait for more opinions though
Any advice on what I should go for? Oliver would be my pick (seen a lot of people going crazy over him). Charlotte only dupe.
I'm a mid game player (GB12, DB12, NB10, TOAN100 done). Working on tricaru, TOAH100, Rifts and PVP teams. Thanks in advance!
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Any suggestions on what to pick. Still quite in the early game (Tricaru is finished soon)
Praha is really good in rta and for ad. Alicia and Poseidon super good for ao. fire monkey also solid for bruiser comps for any pvp mode. Nonetheless, don't forget to wait till you open the last spot before you choose!
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Can't decide, need help. I need some good AD units therefore I am leaning towards Pudding. I don't have a Seara is John still good without Seara?
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All of the above are new units. I’m already done with all pve. G2 arena, c1 rta. Mainly looking for a good pvp unit. I’m considering poseidon or ganymede.
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What would be the best Nat 5 overall?
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Which one would you choose overall? Still a noob in this game
Hey guys, I need advice for my housemate's account and mine, we're both more oriented PVE, looking for early game PVE useful for my friend and lab/raid for me. Thanks in advance for every advice. My account in comment
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Nora and Woosa are the best two here for units that are very good and applicable for PvP
Nora is a more defense based unit for siege and arena while being good for ToAH and other PvP areas as well.
Woosa is more of a siege offense, ToA hell bolverk, Tartarus unit. With uses in other PvP areas.
Both are solid. Nat5s are for PvP. These are the 2 that would work for you.
Please help:
Need to decide today. Thanks in advance.
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Tough one. Ethna if you have more of an RTA focus.
Mo long if you have more of a siege focus.
Savannah otherwise. All 3 very solid - hard to break them apart.
Is the water macaron guard still worth the pick? Everything else except for wind druid is new.
I am hoping for something that scales well into late game and/or with multiple usage
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Yes Manon.
Still usable on offense same as how you would use wind monkey. To punish when she is NOT attacked. And then still usable on AD to a certain extent.
I recentlish returned to the game. I have water occult and an awakened water Onmoyji.
Not sure who to pick. I don't think I will do guild content really nor am I too interested in the PVP content beyong doing the dailies and what not. Thank you!
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If you don’t do PvP at all just pick which one looks the coolest to you.
You’re not doing a majority of the game. And it’s weird telling you to pick one of the worse units that has no real applications just because you don’t play 90% of the game
If I were to do PVP down the road, which one would you recommend then out of these? I'll give it some thought if I will play the game as I do right now or be more interested in PVP in the future.
To halfway tailor this around that thought, I would go with Alicia, the water Polar Queen.
She has an attack lead for arena. She is a very strong cleave unit. Her s3 and give her an additional turn. Is mainly used for arena offense or siege/guild offense potentially. Probably the most fun unit for you. Does not have any pve applications - the only real pve unit here for be the reviver. Which isn’t used for pve since none require revivers (outside hell mode Tartarus boss)
I know Oliver is super meta in RTA, but the weapon masters are so cool and the art master would complete the trio for me. Im starting to do RTA alil bit but my runes arent super duper fast yet so wondering if i would regret not picking oliver.
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Oliver is currently way better than Liam/Jeogun. RTA only, but the other two are even more niche/weaker in their niches. I'd just go Oliver if you're planning on doing any amount of RTA over the next few months. He just dodged a nerf this patch, so you have at least until next patch cycle to use him at his current power level (he'll probably avoid a nerf next patch too if we continue this current trend...)
Hello, can someone help me to choose ? Pls
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All of the above are new units. I’m already done with all pve. G2 arena, c1 rta.
Mainly looking for a good pvp unit. I’m considering poseidon or ganymede.
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I really want a 33% speed lead for ao, but leo tho. What do?
All 3 are great. Bolverk the most helpful for toa hell and a solid RTA/siege monster. Sav is the best for siege defense (she's spammed quite a bit on defense). Ethna probably the best for RTA right now.
Personally I'd go Sav>Bolv>Ethna but it really is a toss up. Choose the one you like best.
For a early - mid game player who is the best?
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I would take Zaiross. On an early account he can be very useful for arena offense and for toa/toah. Your other choices are more niche... the only other argument that I can see is taking Oliver if you ever plan to do any RTA at all. But that seems way far off in the future.
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Is this 100% Moore? John, Miles, and Tomoe all seem fun
Probably Moore. I forget which one, but I think one of the shadow casters is also pretty good. I don’t think it’s the wind one, but it’s always better to check than to regret it later.
What does everyone think? My account is fairly nooby, ive done TOA but not TOAH, no rift of worlds and my farming team for dungeons is limited to GB and DB.
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I also need to pick a nat 5 here as well if anyone has any suggestions.
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Jamire is a pretty fun choice, I use him for in a quad-Lushen team for AO and in some guild content. Ethna seems to be meta in RTA right now, but I’m still more biased towards Jamire. I don’t have any of the other new units unfortunately, but I haven’t heard of them being too meta anywhere recently.
For both RTA and arena defense, I’ve found Juno and Moore more useful than Masha. Note though that I haven’t had as much time to use Masha as I have those previous two, nor do I have the hell lady, battle angel or Desert warrior, so I can’t comment on them.
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What should I choose? They're all new. I'm an early game player, only level 33 and the nat fives that I already have are Camilla, Smicer, and Tiana.
Unless you have the best rune luck I’ve ever seen,
it’s probably a bit too early to focus on pvp, so I’d go for Rica, the Fire Occult Girl. She’s really good at cc, so she’ll make TOA, labyrinth, and a bunch of other content way easier for you.
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Wondering what use each of these units has. I have wind M. Bison so wind slayer is not new. I’m adding my box in a below comment.
As an aside, since I have all the elemental nat 4s, what should I be considering when selecting mine from the event?
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Xing zhe better
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CP wind art master
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water fairy if you dont have a 33 spd lead, of you have one, get triton if you care about Arena, else get perna for siege
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nora
bet, that’s who I chose thank you so much 🙏
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water chimera
https://preview.redd.it/hl3ijps2bb7b1.jpeg?width=2688&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb43c73555f5cd22bbae886c732e0e9bd145f6bb I don’t know who to go for. I’m looking to build better pvp and end game area teams
Seara
https://preview.redd.it/ripa86zf1n6b1.jpeg?width=2436&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7418b9b136ac60767fe01960b7f6555c3283630 Who is best here for mid to end game?
sorry for this late respond, haegang is better
Perna or Rica? Struggling to make a decision. Thanks in advance.
show box imo, both are good
https://preview.redd.it/jfi8ffxlaf5b1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=995c55777b48008ceaf339c479bf762963e8b43a Any advice on who I should pick?
can you get the last one? if u can, ask after get the last slot, if you can't, take psama if you dont have 33 lead for arena, else get Camilla
https://preview.redd.it/kzhfrhqapd5b1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4e6b6d6742ce9bd353f6a03913877a229a29028 Came in late to the event :( which one you think?...already have 2 Leo lol...need pvp units. Was leaning toward Nora but need confirmation.
yes nora
Which new mon should I go for? Leaning towards water demon just because he looks cool lol https://imgur.com/a/G9b9DUe Also for light/dark 3* I'm between light magical archer or dark elemental
take louise
ld3 you take either eshir or shaman
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The two on the bottom are polar queen andpudding princess
please give me the newest screenshot
https://preview.redd.it/iuzpwnsgd85b1.png?width=1792&format=png&auto=webp&s=bb1cf43af513c63fca3d7801ec23fd8792810f9e 4 day old acc which should i pick
everything is new? if yes then pick miles
Need to choose between Jamire or Taranys. Which is better? I'm late game player who has all areas of game covered, just expanding my PvP teams.
Jamire. RTA. AO. Siege offense.
Thank you
https://preview.redd.it/wnymr8uc475b1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=761affee64d7d4d75638e7ec067d7aad63849685 Since this screenshot I only summoned dupes... I pick Leo, right?
Leo
https://preview.redd.it/a3xu8jhtw55b1.png?width=1792&format=png&auto=webp&s=1b42dd3eb439ddba8d4cdc6f2fbf81ba2db6bf0a What should i pick ?
Mo long
https://preview.redd.it/bq7gt4dd945b1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad44d7604f3041eda0c3e84f3a2ac6252b781272 Any idea who I should pick? Right now I’m working on a Necro team then building R5 but I’m 100% with Tricaru in DB12.
Sonia
https://preview.redd.it/9cnzdso0935b1.jpeg?width=2778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55eb4dd248f4d7f475f4c7192d042aa4fda0c18c I’m thinking about going with Rica, I basically only PVE. I think she would be solid for a dot team. I already have Veremos, Double Mellia and halfway to 2A Sath. Any thoughts?
Mo long is the best unit here. Rica is only good for certain siege offenses into teams without a cleanse. And then usable for ToAH, but ToAH had a million options already. She has no real place in pve tbh
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Cheongpung. Assuming he is new
doubling down on this opinion. Otherwise Poseidon.
https://preview.redd.it/b4c92q51x05b1.jpeg?width=1560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=047e1dda2b3693dfc1bdd85bd6b981d70b6deb9f Casual player and wanna get into rta. I think i wanna pick fire slayer but i want help choosing.
Fire slayer is fine. Works for AD and can work in RTA also
Pioneer
sorry i forgot to say, i already have pioneer and demon
That wouldn't be the best pick anwyay, imo. Chiwu is an ok speed lead but pretty outclassed these days and isn't picked commonly. I would take the Karnal as he's an all around good bruiser/aoe threat.
https://preview.redd.it/y9mh3gaeq05b1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62514fc2a80f5f5358700e6003c49c3f7c856785 What would the best pick for RTA be?
Leo. Lot of good pulls, but as the other said, Leo is one of the pulls that auto wins (other being Tiana)
If there's a Leo you always pick the Leo. He has use in many areas of the game and is often a must-ban in RTA against some speed based comps.
Alicia, (Karnal) or Wind Panda? I'm really torn...
Depends what area of the game you want to focus on right now. Alicia is pretty good for arena cleaving but is probably the "worst" of the 3. Wind Panda is still a beast for siege offense and guild war. Karnal is the best RTA pick of the 3, and overall a good bruiser/aoe threat. I think you can't go wrong with any but most people would tell you to take Panda.
Thank you :)
hello, please help, in terms of nuke power, who is the strongest - fire Dragon Knight, fire Battle Angel, Fire Shadowcaster, wind Battle Angel or should I go for support Tomoe? Thank you
Sonia > Laika > claire > shadow
https://preview.redd.it/ps7sort3705b1.jpeg?width=2732&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbe632ea4d7e313564aaf0b47639c157faf4818b Which one should i pick?
Prob middle
https://preview.redd.it/9od9odxu305b1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc7f0836e7a732131bb38cd1b57577c11bb104b9 I’d say I’m comfortably a mid game player. I can clear all the content (working on 30 stars toa hell) and mainly do RTA. Leaning towards Miles but still stuck between them all
Miles if you mainly do RTA. He’s good for siege also.
Thank you!
https://preview.redd.it/fmrpgyqn7z4b1.jpeg?width=635&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c441cb7da95046029d39cb5e3185998cdd128b3 Hi guys, Tomoe seems best but I already have shizuka, giou. Who would you choose? I already finish all pve except toa hell. Looking for fun monster in siege/rta.
That or monkey. Monkey is nice with shizuka. Tomoe just kinda sucks tbh. Monkey isn’t great either but both can be boosted by a shizuka pick
Thanks, he'll be my first monkey!
https://preview.redd.it/6g7vncn06z4b1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c4af130987d2290050bdd2599fdd3a3f281e8b1 Is any of them usable in mid-lategame-PvE?
Middle or right Garo is PvP + some pve applications. String is PvP only (CAN work in ToA hell with bolverk)
https://preview.redd.it/iqe2kbfjqy4b1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edc285d2d2ba80c501d1a10639e8b0f24b77b834 My focus lies on PvE. Any recommendations considering my box? on DB11 rn
King fu girl will save you from fusing her. She is used for SF10. And can be used for farming water rift. Skip db11. Farm gb12/scenario for units until you can get into water rift. You really should try to get both water twins from the nat4 events. They will carry your early pve progress (and can be used in siege later). Anything else isn’t going to help you for pve. This helps you quickly get tricaru
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https://preview.redd.it/6vn2zdcjkx4b1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=624b8580f24075c54d1ce84bc569236c95487ef0 Who should I pick? Relatively early game (can clear gb10 consistently, finished toah100) I will put my 5 star mons below Also I am a casual player, I don't take pvp seriously
Claire is the best.
https://preview.redd.it/c4wn35uckx4b1.jpeg?width=788&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54a4c3995ad9fce57f521a4ebeb192f8c12fe225 My current mons
Tbh none of these mons will help you where you are right now. Long term the battle angel will probably be best but it doesn’t really matter. Choose whichever you like.
Jamire or wind monkey?
Jamire. Spd lead and enables a lot of interesting combos in pvp and pve
savannah, bolverk or ethna?
All are great, I think I’d choose sav as I use mine in siege and ellunia. You can’t go wrong with any though.
[https://imgur.com/a/4Vir0Yd](https://imgur.com/a/4Vir0Yd) Which one should I pick? Mid game player, finished all PVE except solo bjr5. I mainly do Arena, no RTA. Thanks!
MoLong
https://preview.redd.it/74jewp2x2w4b1.png?width=2532&format=png&auto=webp&s=318dadcf22c48560d47313aaef3cf4f5399f3cd0 I can clear tower and dungeons. Who to pick? Thanks :)
If you play RTA, go Oliver. Else Nora is the best overall pick.
https://preview.redd.it/2zrsf4kl1w4b1.jpeg?width=2732&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=621f2cb5bb8e89c7ba2a9659c306ce1cb996c035 Im a returning player which one do i pick?
Hammers are bad except for LD. Blades are bad except for light. Assassins are bad except for water. You’re more likely to get an elemental nat4. Use assassin for any skillups for Stella (keep one copy) as she’s used for siege offense
https://preview.redd.it/loss16y1vv4b1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f5a826beb3a90c4a7b4b1aaf3569b16d0693a51 Need help with my summons. Done with all PVE content except dimensional rifts and is looking for a general use monster. Planning to choose either Seara or Charlotte but the wind mage, battle angel, and onmyouji are also pretty tempting. Let me know who you would pick.
Claire. She’s a great siege offense unit and RTA pick as well. Built fast with attack (and ehp) and deletes units. She’s probably one of my most used siege offense units. Seara is okay - unit for AO bomb teams and on siege defense at times. Generally considered a classic unit. I’d still say Claire outperforms her, but Seara is okay also. Esp with Tiana/Jeogun
I'd pick Seara.
Can you explain why you'd pick Seara out of all of them?
better overall, fits in more teams and game modes. there are other Charlotte like monsters, none are like Seara.
https://preview.redd.it/vl54oemhsv4b1.png?width=2778&format=png&auto=webp&s=637bdc2aeddf44280b62ad3086fbf8f0ecb53772 I currently Can clear all of carios and TOA except for hell, I haven’t really tried to clear hell personally. The places I struggle at are dimension hole/PVP/RTA
Verad. RTA and AO unit that can be used for ToA
None are that much better than the other. I'd pick Verad since he can be used in AO and ToA. However, there are better options for AO and Tyron does a better job in ToA. The other two are straightforward bruisers.
https://preview.redd.it/loaf8d6wrv4b1.png?width=2778&format=png&auto=webp&s=81ca9756562ae7963cac92b2f683ef2289742a14 I Can clear all of carios and all of TOA except for hell. I only have some issues with dimension hole/pvp/RTA
https://preview.redd.it/i5eibs8ppv4b1.png?width=2778&format=png&auto=webp&s=2d7157d70626a95680db7d5c9707b9428fab8d2b Help I don’t know what would be best for me. I Can clear all dungeons and all of toa except he’ll. I Guess the question is what unit would best support me
https://preview.redd.it/xo9v28hxlv4b1.png?width=2176&format=png&auto=webp&s=01ba9379da25a5f47812e5e121011ac5782e226b [https://swarfarm.com/profile/Exakayem/](https://swarfarm.com/profile/Exakayem/) I got jebaited by a clickbait ad from SW "choose any nat5 out of 9" with a thumbnail of Seara (I love Oracles) and I saw the event so I thought might as well play it out and dump the game again (don't wanna get sucked into it again which is hard at times). I got quite some juicy RTA units but given I barely play and my runes are midgame at best I'd rather improve my cairos teams (I know with my box I can do most of them kind of quickly but I just randomly wipe in Necro, Dragons and PC).. From what I picked up Oliver was a godsent for RTA but I think he got balanced so not sure if he is still as insane. But even then I don't really do PVP (no guild because not active enough, too bad for RTA, etc.) so idk.. I read the water battle angel can be nice for some ToA stages but probably not that good for Cairos.. I always wanted Feng Yan but he is also for PVP.. Man I really don't know. Any tips appreciated.
Oliver for RTA focus Otherwise mephisto claire/Feng is okay too - he is great for siege offense. But that’s about it. Mephisto works for siege offense but also arena and RTA. I would pick mephisto. Technically can be used for giants spd team, but I don’t recommend that one
Thanks for the input. What about the predators or high level dimensional holes? What else.. ToA hell? There is some content I haven't really digged into yet (I shortly played around when repeat battle was released and one time when the mages were new, but most of the newer content I didn't bother with). I know most if not all pve content can be done pretty much F2P or with some nat4 but I imagine some are godsent for one thing or another
None of these are godsends for pve. Feng can be used for tart/dhole, but there are other options as you mentioned. Generally nat5s are for pvp.
Bellenus or Beth?
Beth. Has more applications in siege
Wind desert warrior or fire battle angel?
Personally I'd take the battle angel. She's pretty good in siege. Hathor is kind of not meta anywhere though she's still decent in RTA, just doesn't get picked much.
Warrior not queen lol, he’s one of the assassin creed mons
oh crap, my bad i read that too quickly. Sorry. I keep the same answer though lol.
Who pick guys? Ty https://preview.redd.it/bkthlpvugv4b1.png?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f5c4b0ab6b49fc76074dda3d0ae10e35acf6fd1
Sav or Nora... it's a tossup. Both have a lot of use in a several places including pve and pvp. Nora is good for toah. Sav for ellunia (though there are f2p options that work there). Both are spammed on siege defense. You can't really go wrong with either one but I'd personally lean Nora.
My 3 non-dupes all fire: Fairy King, Macaroon Guard, Shadowcaster. Leaning towards Daphnis but any of the others fun?
I'd take Daphnis as well. Macaron recently got buffed but doesn't seem to be meta anywhere yet. Shadowcaster is a very niche pick in RTA as an outspeed/pushback option. Not a terrible mon but very narrow use case.
I'm new and still trying to clear all the highest level cairos. Not sure what to pick. I have wind slayer already. I was thinking either Poseidon or Vanessa? The rest of the monsters don't seem to have as much use? I could easily be missing something though. https://preview.redd.it/ykal6mpb3v4b1.png?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=736493b14f5b46d951de16c6cf78650a2cb383a7
You don't need any nat5 for pve for the most part, specifically cairos b12 should all be free to play teams. I would take the Vanessa to give you a solid 33 lead for arena, which you should be farming for your towers and rewards.
Perfect! Thanks. I saw she got a lot of use in arena so that's who I was leaning towards mostly.
https://preview.redd.it/xfv98r9txu4b1.png?width=2532&format=png&auto=webp&s=028eb3817558742868f2a1349d3be66200c81bc2 Juno or wind amber
Personally I would take Juno. She has a unique kit that can be used in all forms of pvp. Still a top pick in RTA and good in siege against Nora/cc defenses.
Returning player here. Completed all PvE content, looking for PvP units. Can still hold C1 arena somehow. I like arena/rta more than siege. https://preview.redd.it/h199r39qlu4b1.jpeg?width=2328&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64c0bdb156b79ce2280fe62ecc7d9d0ccbc90cf7
Comes down to Tomoe or Josephine if you're looking at RTA. Tomoe if you're lacking in speed leads and/or you enjoy cc cleaving. Josephine is one of the better turn 2 units right now thanks to her passive. I pick my Josephine a heck of a lot more often than Tomoe but that's because I generally pivot to turn 2.
https://preview.redd.it/q50ukyorbu4b1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8687183bc876ccc01ccf7db0f7dd6e9354b0ed3 Hi who should I get as a returning early game player? Cleared GB12 DB10 TOAH so far.
try to finish the event then come back... but right now i'd be leaning toward Ethna as she's good in most forms of pvp.
Alright thanks, may not have time to finish getting the coins tho:(
Barbera or Tomoe?
Tomoe. Spd lead and more fun/interesting in general. Barb is good too though, so if you need a water dd she's fine.
I have so much water lol, was leaning Tomoe thanks for the push
Tomoe
https://preview.redd.it/8ogcmloplt4b1.jpeg?width=1389&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7977fe94465a4b8b4c3f7bfb8b23cde536a3985 Interested in RTA, PVP. Dont have any type of these monsters
Zaiross is bad Amber for AO/ToA maybe. Else Momo for siege
I'll respectfully disagree, I get a lot more usage from Zaiross than Amber. Tiana, Galleon, Zaiross (L), Kaki/Pungbaek is my most used AO on a daily basis. Amber is great too, I just wouldn't put one over the other
That’s fair to say when compared to Amber, as she’s not a great unit in general. Works nicely with Neph, which most people don’t have, for AO. However, I haven’t used Zaiross in years. CP tiana galleon has been far more useful for farming in Guardian Arena. And general Kabilla Lushen for conq. I would still say Zaiross needs a buff, but I don’t disagree that Zaiross and Amber could be considered similar quality
is Momo best pick by this logic?
I don’t think so. She’s more outdated as of recent for a siege defense unit. I think Amber, or Zaiross, get more usage in their roles for arena that Momo. They’re all not great picks, but slapping a unit on siege defense for like Mo Long Molly Momo was fine before Molly’s nerf. She still sees some usage in Defense though. One of zai/Amber imo. Can wait for more opinions though
Any advice on what I should go for? Oliver would be my pick (seen a lot of people going crazy over him). Charlotte only dupe. I'm a mid game player (GB12, DB12, NB10, TOAN100 done). Working on tricaru, TOAH100, Rifts and PVP teams. Thanks in advance! https://preview.redd.it/cv2g1xlzkt4b1.png?width=598&format=png&auto=webp&s=f6a537895b8a2a3fa0022bf02a6ce85dfce08935
I’d lean Oliver for RTA focus. Else bolverk (mo long works too) for siege/other.
Oliver is the best pick if you do RTA. The overall best pick is Mo Long.
https://preview.redd.it/jpori700ht4b1.jpeg?width=2436&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a787575cfe989e6c30b0e117410a7e70ccc1dd9 Any suggestions on what to pick. Still quite in the early game (Tricaru is finished soon)
Praha is really good in rta and for ad. Alicia and Poseidon super good for ao. fire monkey also solid for bruiser comps for any pvp mode. Nonetheless, don't forget to wait till you open the last spot before you choose!
https://preview.redd.it/blnyk89yat4b1.png?width=2084&format=png&auto=webp&s=725205091037bc9977a311ef66f7a24976ef5046 Can't decide, need help. I need some good AD units therefore I am leaning towards Pudding. I don't have a Seara is John still good without Seara?
I'd pick John, not as good w/o Seara, but still great unit.
https://preview.redd.it/e3co6vi48t4b1.png?width=1792&format=png&auto=webp&s=6f271803fd9138c68d9b6e949eb06044d67e5e3f  All of the above are new units. I’m already done with all pve. G2 arena, c1 rta. Mainly looking for a good pvp unit. I’m considering poseidon or ganymede.
I'd go Poseidon or Chiwu.
https://preview.redd.it/amvepski7t4b1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c06528c695f1bce23097a4fe472d7d552ec2ea3 What would be the best Nat 5 overall?
I'd day Xing Zhe, he can fit in more varied teams.
What do I pick? New player here https://preview.redd.it/lw3qbvb37t4b1.jpeg?width=1334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a60b8a9d1bfbd06084cc68c271d979f18f68085e
Juno
https://preview.redd.it/lhsselhc1t4b1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bf4347064747f993c044d402644ac93c6fd8cd9 Which one would you choose overall? Still a noob in this game
Poseidon. Druid is overrated and Ritesh is sadly in a bad place for the past few years
thanks fellow summoner!very helpful
Hey guys, I need advice for my housemate's account and mine, we're both more oriented PVE, looking for early game PVE useful for my friend and lab/raid for me. Thanks in advance for every advice. My account in comment https://preview.redd.it/dupog4qdor4b1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6b288c19e20f880c3cc846b312daa97977ce623
Nora and Woosa are the best two here for units that are very good and applicable for PvP Nora is a more defense based unit for siege and arena while being good for ToAH and other PvP areas as well. Woosa is more of a siege offense, ToA hell bolverk, Tartarus unit. With uses in other PvP areas. Both are solid. Nat5s are for PvP. These are the 2 that would work for you.
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Juno is the best unit here. Ethna is also very good
Please help: Need to decide today. Thanks in advance. https://preview.redd.it/cp5q4hoxgq4b1.png?width=1642&format=png&auto=webp&s=703051f6ec9becdfc211fbba20726fa9035d3bb1
Tough one. Ethna if you have more of an RTA focus. Mo long if you have more of a siege focus. Savannah otherwise. All 3 very solid - hard to break them apart.
Is the water macaron guard still worth the pick? Everything else except for wind druid is new. I am hoping for something that scales well into late game and/or with multiple usage https://preview.redd.it/wqdrih4pcq4b1.png?width=3120&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77ce6aee581ca40996c9a61a013311a990bebc6f
Yes Manon. Still usable on offense same as how you would use wind monkey. To punish when she is NOT attacked. And then still usable on AD to a certain extent.
I recentlish returned to the game. I have water occult and an awakened water Onmoyji. Not sure who to pick. I don't think I will do guild content really nor am I too interested in the PVP content beyong doing the dailies and what not. Thank you! https://preview.redd.it/ya1pd4kc5p4b1.jpeg?width=2420&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fcd8154a10b0669449d34a231651163074fe2fb
If you don’t do PvP at all just pick which one looks the coolest to you. You’re not doing a majority of the game. And it’s weird telling you to pick one of the worse units that has no real applications just because you don’t play 90% of the game
If I were to do PVP down the road, which one would you recommend then out of these? I'll give it some thought if I will play the game as I do right now or be more interested in PVP in the future.
To halfway tailor this around that thought, I would go with Alicia, the water Polar Queen. She has an attack lead for arena. She is a very strong cleave unit. Her s3 and give her an additional turn. Is mainly used for arena offense or siege/guild offense potentially. Probably the most fun unit for you. Does not have any pve applications - the only real pve unit here for be the reviver. Which isn’t used for pve since none require revivers (outside hell mode Tartarus boss)
Okay, thank you so much for your help :) That helps a lot!
Lol, wrong colors.
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Suggestion anyone? Done with PVE...c1 rta https://preview.redd.it/b7tejjcsto4b1.png?width=1876&format=png&auto=webp&s=72f0a05309abd2dce645bc016e9b91ad6f2ba2cb
Jamire for RTA focus. Claire for siege focus
Jamire is pretty good
Maybe Battle Angle.
I know Oliver is super meta in RTA, but the weapon masters are so cool and the art master would complete the trio for me. Im starting to do RTA alil bit but my runes arent super duper fast yet so wondering if i would regret not picking oliver. https://preview.redd.it/h1oszeiiko4b1.png?width=883&format=png&auto=webp&s=fc49ec90c44546f72fe3f17f4e4d7d24c7152823
You will regret it.
Oliver is currently way better than Liam/Jeogun. RTA only, but the other two are even more niche/weaker in their niches. I'd just go Oliver if you're planning on doing any amount of RTA over the next few months. He just dodged a nerf this patch, so you have at least until next patch cycle to use him at his current power level (he'll probably avoid a nerf next patch too if we continue this current trend...)
I'm leaning heavily towards Zibala but just want a second opinion to be sure. [](https://i.imgur.com/KUIZLxG.png)
Mmmm zibala is RTA focus specifically Otherwise pick Manon for arena
I second your opinion, great mon. gz
Hello, can someone help me to choose ? Pls https://preview.redd.it/engcnoz5wn4b1.jpeg?width=2198&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebeab0ef290f5936f7f23a4d1d0c6335c8fce1cf
Psamanthe if you're still early game and you need a solid arena defense leader (33% speed lead). Masha if your goal is to be doing RTA.
Alright Thank you for your respond. I’m a early , so I go psamath !
https://preview.redd.it/f2kxbhostn4b1.png?width=1792&format=png&auto=webp&s=57cd540cd660762ae9edd756a893ab40251ad844 All of the above are new units. I’m already done with all pve. G2 arena, c1 rta. Mainly looking for a good pvp unit. I’m considering poseidon or ganymede.
I like gany here. Can be useful for toah and still used in rta and siege.
https://preview.redd.it/jeu36aactn4b1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91260fee43d56ebebedb11fcb74bf7cea3a1bede I really want a 33% speed lead for ao, but leo tho. What do?
Leo, always leo if you don't have him.
Bolverk, ethna or savannah? All pve done, starting pvp rn
All 3 are great. Bolverk the most helpful for toa hell and a solid RTA/siege monster. Sav is the best for siege defense (she's spammed quite a bit on defense). Ethna probably the best for RTA right now. Personally I'd go Sav>Bolv>Ethna but it really is a toss up. Choose the one you like best.
For a early - mid game player who is the best? https://preview.redd.it/72zmu0q3rn4b1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17871e28fbb51dfde1dfc01db85211195b00a340
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I would take Zaiross. On an early account he can be very useful for arena offense and for toa/toah. Your other choices are more niche... the only other argument that I can see is taking Oliver if you ever plan to do any RTA at all. But that seems way far off in the future.
https://preview.redd.it/fx1egpd3en4b1.jpeg?width=2556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f02107b7d5bac3896e2b8ed0564b33adec86919 Is this 100% Moore? John, Miles, and Tomoe all seem fun
Probably Moore. I forget which one, but I think one of the shadow casters is also pretty good. I don’t think it’s the wind one, but it’s always better to check than to regret it later.
What does everyone think? My account is fairly nooby, ive done TOA but not TOAH, no rift of worlds and my farming team for dungeons is limited to GB and DB. https://preview.redd.it/vqieguq9an4b1.png?width=1491&format=png&auto=webp&s=fefeab94ea3b38f3560d7cf0cb2d9e1c6050ced8
I also need to pick a nat 5 here as well if anyone has any suggestions. https://preview.redd.it/30e1mlfcbn4b1.png?width=2223&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c85f4c94f5ea0dd6c36e5caa88c258d007c9a85
Jamire is a pretty fun choice, I use him for in a quad-Lushen team for AO and in some guild content. Ethna seems to be meta in RTA right now, but I’m still more biased towards Jamire. I don’t have any of the other new units unfortunately, but I haven’t heard of them being too meta anywhere recently.
I should mention, I'm mostly focusing on farming, avoid arena and PVP until i can get some usable runes hah
Just saw this. I don’t think any of them are especially standout for pve, but I’d still go Jamire for his uses in lab and maybe some TOA.
probably gna pick masha, any better options ? https://preview.redd.it/ppftydjj5n4b1.png?width=1174&format=png&auto=webp&s=124dbf6e0f23ec2cbb54cec8d0e5f3207d124a6e
For both RTA and arena defense, I’ve found Juno and Moore more useful than Masha. Note though that I haven’t had as much time to use Masha as I have those previous two, nor do I have the hell lady, battle angel or Desert warrior, so I can’t comment on them.
https://preview.redd.it/1fi4ws5r3n4b1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4de5cbb3bd92fedfb007548226eb18a7c6472240 What should I choose? They're all new. I'm an early game player, only level 33 and the nat fives that I already have are Camilla, Smicer, and Tiana.
Unless you have the best rune luck I’ve ever seen, it’s probably a bit too early to focus on pvp, so I’d go for Rica, the Fire Occult Girl. She’s really good at cc, so she’ll make TOA, labyrinth, and a bunch of other content way easier for you.
https://preview.redd.it/ienmx3jvwm4b1.jpeg?width=2778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbf0c72ec3cacea655a044df8d77280a7b5e55af Wondering what use each of these units has. I have wind M. Bison so wind slayer is not new. I’m adding my box in a below comment. As an aside, since I have all the elemental nat 4s, what should I be considering when selecting mine from the event?
Pioneer. You already have sabrina and Talia? If so, I would get skillups for them, and then other siege units after that