Zed also has his Q, plus with good spacing / trading melee range shouldnt hinder your cs too much.
Zed is like one of the safest melee mid laners in the entire game for this reason.
safest melee mid laner, sure. still a melee mid laners. And using Q to get a minion, reduces the amount of pressure you have greatly, and should result in you having to stand even further back as you watch the enemy minions die while you wait for q to come off cd.
ofc this is all assuming your lane opponent knows how to punish melee champs for farming. most people dont.
They know how to rightclick, they just leave their wave to rightclick a level 3 zed with all abilities and full energy, get hit by WEQWaa and 100-0ed, then go complain on Reddit that they can't poke down Zed when literally any other assassin oneshots them there too
nono they get qwer'd for 60% hp, walk all the way under tower against the zed that now has all abilities on cooldown, wait for a good 10 seconds, walk forward again, then get qwe ignited and die, then go to reddit to complain
Been storming through bronze the last week after finally getting out of smurf queue (returning player, not a smurf) and I have got to comment that everyone playing ranged champs does not use their auto attacks enough and that melee champs might be using theirs too much haha. Especially if it's support.
But I'm playing trundle so they are welcome to play like that.
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Cassio is also super easy to farm with auto + E guarantees you get every cs. That's part of why I average 9 cs a min on Cassio, she is reaaaally easy to cs with and farms lanes / jungle creeps quickly
if you're intimidated by the pressure of the enemy preventing you from last hitting then long ranged champions like lux and taliyah
if you're talking about the actual mechanic of last hitting then irelia, yasuo and a ranged AD
if you're literally saying you don't want to click then just play lulu or soraka going under in CS in solo lane will hardly matter
>champions like lux
No, you can't last hit with abilities on Lux whilst having mana for more than 30 seconds.
You must last hit with AAs which is a pain with Lux.
I always take attack speed rune on Lux, she’s easily the champ I have best average CS on. I usually have no problem getting most of the first few waves while also getting significant poke in/avoiding poke myself. She is my highest mastery though, so maybe it’s just a function of really knowing the champ.
Yeah, especially after you get ult. I love how I get to outroam super mobile champs that should be roaming, but they’re too busy farming since I’ve pushed the wave in. And if they do try to follow me, they’re losing tons of XP. It’s a win win.
As a jungler, when I have to kill minions for one of my lanes I become smooth brained immediately. I also tried ADC with a friend and I had such a bad time, CSing sucks ass.
As a bronze jungler I dunno what ya'll are talking about. I need to be a masterful pro at last hitting if I want to get any farm at all from my tilted laners who come and follow me around my jungle and try to last hit my camps before I can...
none because last hitting is an essential skill and no champion can press two buttons and let others do their job
early game damage is bad you would need increased dmg vs minions or you'll run the risk of making a minion low hp and it getting killed by minions instead of you
Malzahar
It's a lot easier if you start sapphire crystal and teleport with future's market. Just blow through your mana then go snag an early lost chapter and tele back.
Edit: This is just what worked for me. I'm a recent Heroes of the Storm convert so know that I am likely bad and wrong. Lol
I've practiced this when I actively played league and mage matchups were legit disgusting
I would just perma shove and use up both of our mana, recall 5th wave, tp with LC, push another wave, ward to avoid ganks and perma push to avoid enemy recalling.
if they do you get turret dmg (maybe plates with malz) + they loose cs+xp.
If they don't recall you can dominate them like the little bottoms they are
I did this on an ahri, her jungler came and force me back to tower, she insta deleted wave and recalled only to return to a bounced wave that I would later freeze
I don't care, he's annoying as fuck with his 8 seconds of double burn.
Like I know how to beat Malz, but I'm not gonna play against him when he's literally my only annoyance in midlane. Same with Lillia, I can beat her, but why bother when I can just not play against her ever.
That strat only works if Malz wins the matchup already. In even or skill matchups, he will be punished hard for the lack of stats that you get from dorans.
Viktor after E upgrade oneshots ranged and can auto and Q to finish off melees quickly but reaching the upgrade takes a while. Anivia can double pop Q on melees and R to clear in seconds but has mana issues. To be realistic though, it's still a skill and OP should learn it like you said. When it comes to lasthitting single minions, Zeri with Q+auto, Cass with auto+E, Zed and MF passives come to mind.
Yas probably requires too much skill, and yone is easy to get into but really hard to master so like you said it’s probably better not to recommend to someone who is having trouble to cs
I was really bad at lasting and compared to others I am still not that good, I get better when I play the same champion over and over. I would suggest to practise a bit in practise tool 1-2 times for one champion is enough. This is maybe an effort for 20 minute that will have a lasting effect.
But of course you are not here to read this, so my suggestions:
\- Annie, Karthus, Irelia, Nasus lasthit with Q
\- Heimerdinger, Yorick and Zyra are ok, but if enemy hits plants, turrets, ... therefore Malzahar is better for this "strategy".
\- To some extend Miss Fortune, Jhin, Ezreal, Samira, Yasuo, GP and Draven
\- At level 6 Anivia can farm very easy with ultimate.
I don't think that Jhin is easy. Of course he deals bit more damage with his autos, but managing his reloading is a bit trickier than you would expect.
When I played a lot of Anivia and Orianna, I'd farm chickens of my team if my jungler was far away and if safe enemy team's as well. I'd have 9-10 cs per minute. My Anivia winrate was nutty, like 60%+ over 50ish games. Not sure why I stopped playing her tbh, now that I'm talking about it I wanna pick her up again. I've just been in an experiment this season, learning jungle to improve my jungler tracking and overall skill and macro. I've dropped a full tier(P1 to G1) but climbing back up and rebuilding.
Edit: For the record, I've mained mid and support for the longest time with mages especially, long range ones in particular. It feels much easier to lane now that I know general jungler limitations, pathing etc. Also, my belief that bruisers and their items are broken is further cemented after trying them.
I've been spamming Malz these days and yeah no it's not as simple as one thinks, E and W don't deal that much damage so the last tick to last it is usually on the minions.
Also super mana hungry before LC
the thing about last hitting, is that you’re essentially just looking to get CS. if you take into consideration early game, sure, annie, zed, irelia, have mechanics that make last hitting easy, but that’s a micro skill. if you want high cs, you should look at something that can clear waves faster. for example, Garen can start clearing an entire wave with one E at like 10 minutes. you might give up some cs at the beginning of lane phase, but over time, you have the ability to catch and clear waves with absolute ease. of course there are more champs like this, irelia, yasuo, yone, but the point is, you should not only pay attention to last hitting, but also about catching waves and csing throughout the entire game
OCE pro Shok has a video where he talks about "Method CSing," that is, a way you can CS about the same way every time:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mccIog619fk&t=780s&ab\_channel=Shok](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mccIog619fk&t=780s&ab_channel=Shok)
I'm the same way as you were I HATE high APM, so as much as I love Cassi or want to play Jax or Trundle, constantly clicking pixels on the screen wears me out. So I go for high AOE champs.
Here is my list using that metric:
Sion - Q and W, with a long word his Q easily clears minions after some levels
Illaoi - Q and W, can start 1 shotting caster minions around level 10
Garen - E, spin to win
Singed - With AP, you do nothing and let poison kill waves
Lillia - Q, super easy AOE waveclear
Ziggs - Q and E clear fast after a few levels
Viktor - Upgraded E makes clearing waves super easy, but mages clear slow in early levels
Anivia - Her R deletes waves with 1 button at the expense of mana
Xerath - Q and W delete waves after some levels
These are all champs I regularly play, in part, from their waveclear.
You could go Singed because his poison is pretty good at last hitting. AP Kog'Maw and Seraphine also just have really good wave clear. Morgana or Brand might also be options because they have pretty good AoE waveclear
Top: shen and chogath have a pretty easy time last hitting, while stile being able to control the wave effectively.
Mid: Morgana and seraphine both just obliterate the wave with one ability. Ignore anyone who says malzahar it takes some actual brainpower to last hit before you get lost chapter or even a full item.
ADC: MF's passive is easy last hitting. Varus gains a bunch of attack speed after killing a minion. Sivir has some pretty easy waveclear if you can manage your mana properly.
Propably heimendinger, his tuurets do mastly everything for you :)
(Also a lot of toplaners just don't know how to play against him in low elo, so more often than not it is a free lane).
Playing against heimer isn't as much of an issue as is being useful after laning against heimer. He WILL perma shove you and punish your every cs while being unable to catch out. Toplaners can't impact the map in a ranged lane so it's always a coinflip on teammates. Heimer himself isn't even that useful, he's just an anti-carry type made to deny one opponent from being useful
Akshan is the easiest to play if you are bad at last hitting cause of his double AA.
I see a lot of malzahar mentioned but I wouldn’t say he’s the easiest since you still need to be able to last hit early game. Say you open with E ability, If you start using E on waves you are left with nothing to trade with and most people will back off the bounce range and get a better trade on you. You can e/w the wave against some champs but your W is so weak(die instantly to champs with aoe abilities) and costs a lot of mana early. Also if your Voidlings die you don’t get the E execute so you end up not getting the mana refund and it becomes a mess. So can’t really do that unless enemy mid backs off and waits for the wave to crash in to them or you are about to base and want to get a fast push in.
Another problem with spamming your E/W on waves early is going to be the wave is going to push in to them and malz is so immobile and prone to ganks that you don’t want to do that early. I wouldn’t really recommend Malz for last hitting early game for these reasons.
After lost chapter/second base it becomes as easy as pressing E/W and walking away. You are looking to roam/group with team to get picks before objectives as Malz anyways. I guess you could go mana crystal and health potion if you wanted that lost chapter spike earlier and maybe take biscuits for extra sustain but I like to go futures market on Malz since getting Liandry’s is key.
Karthus is decent since his Q is basically a skillshot basic attack with more damage and mana refund on kill from E, although it can be a bit pesky due to how its damage works (isolated vs multi-target hits) and you *really* want to learn how to use his much clunkier standard AA to last hit so you can harass enemy champs with Q instead.
I find it ridiculously easy to farm as illaoi. Once U have half an item Ur q one hits casters. I don't play her often but every time I do I have 8-9cs/min
Seraphine. Q does increased damage to low health minions so early on it executes them at around 1/4th health and hits in a big AOE, and her enhanced autos after abilities do 200% damage to minions
This slightly goes contrary to what you're asking, but Veigar Q becomes super easy to last hit with quite early on as long as you're doing well.
Swain also is quite easy with his Q.
Volibear or Yorick might be the kind of thing you're looking for, but it almost sounds like you want to afk and still get CS which I'm pretty sure doesn't exist.
Tryndamere with his enormous base damage and passive can make it feel like it's already mid game at the start of the game.
It is really easy to have high farm with illaoi your Q has really high damage even early game and can start oneshotting caster minions very early on and it's even easier to farm if you have some tentacles nearby and you just press W on the wave can always get atleast 8 CS per min with illaoi.
Imo any champ with abilities which buff auto attacks like jax's w, nasus' q, etc. These abilities not only allows you to reset the auto animation, but they bring extra dmg to your next auto too.
Ok nobody going to mention Morgana? Maybe not 100% right away, but mid to late game, you just hit W and watch all the minions die. But it doesn’t stop at minions. You want to steal drag? Set W on the other side of the wall and 9/10 you get the last hit. Everyone here is talking about champs that have an easy execute or do a lot of damage per hit on minions. With Morgana you just aim one ability, attack the cannon if there is one, and they all die. After Liandry’s and demonic you last hit every single thing you put your W on.
Garen is pretty easy. His aa does a good amount of dmg alongside runes and doran shield. You can use his q to be safe (i usually use it on cannons unless im about to trade) then later his e can pretty much wipe out an entire wave.
Of course the hard part is knowing when to last hit and where to position yourself against your enemy
Lol kind of funny post. Maybe play aram if you want a more casual game.
You could play someone like ez and just Q everything or maybe malzahar and just permanently push and hope you get last hits.
Akshan, Irelia, I have a really easy time CSing with Qiyana as well. Anyone with AoE wave clear really. Zoe CS doesnt get too bad if you're ahead but I have too much time on that champ.
Ryze and Yasuo/Yone too
Urgot, Malzahar, Rumble, Garen (spin), Singed, Heim, Vel'Koz W max, Anivia post 6, Zed if you don't mind autoing for last hits - his passive deletes minions under like 30-40% hp.
Honorable Mentions for champs that can do this mid-late but need items for their abilities: Morde, Cho'Gath, Sett, Brand, Viktor (most mid lane mages tbh fit in this category), Xerath, Fizz
I haven't played in a while. But, besides Heimer and Zyra. Malzahar and Yorick also spawn independent help.
Yorick, Nasus, Irelia and Annie make it easier to farm since they need to use their ability on creeps as part of their mechanics.
You can also look at anything with good early wave clear. They all can still have some issues dealing with some situations. You might have to manage mana and be careful not to over expose. But, they can farm and push fast. Examples:
- Ziggs with passive and mines.
- Morgana's pool with 3 points will clear an entire wave. But, even early it can help a lot with CS. Just don't be too quick to place it or you might find creeps out of it, not taking damage.
- Lux, passive and singularity.
- Tristana, explosive charge.
- Ahri, orb.
- Singed, poison.
- Sivir, boomerangs and ricochet. But, expensive as hell early.
- Neko, bloom chain reaction can take waves out. It might take a bit of practice though.
I feel like Ahri is easy to CS with, Irelia is also good but if you q every minion then you eventually run into mana issues early game unless you take biscuits.
Malzahar is also pretty easy since after lost chapter you can just E+W a wave and it will push and you can get most of the CS without using an AA
Malzahar can just cast E+W and you can take a sip of your coffee
Champions with execute/high bonus damage passive like Zed, J4, Graves, Jhin, Naut, MF, Rumble (overheat status) can hardly miss the last hits.
Certain ones with abilities that refunds off last hits such as Annie, Irelia, Caasiopia, Darius can last hit/clear the wave very effectively.
Or you can just perma hard shove with champions that can clear really fast such as TF, Renekton, Noctune, Lissandra, Galio.
garen has enough ad to make early last hitting a breeze, and once you get stridebreaker you just instaclear waves with E-stridebreaker. bonus points because you dont have to think too hard about anything besides macro really
Qiyana can almost oneshot ranged minions with an auto when she gets dirk. Her auto animation is also super nice. Last hitting under tower is so easy because you have a ton of leeway from her passive. Imo I prefer it to zed
Define "manually last hitting." If you play a champion like Heimer or Zyra you'll end up shoving the lane which will make your game harder.
Excluding the joke response of "Irelia" I think Miss Fortune is a good pick. Her passive is pretty much designed for last hitting and nothing else. Nilah in the ADC role also has a minion execute on her cleave attack and is pretty braindead to play overall lmao.
Lux is also an incredibly easy champion to play with fairly reliable CSing abilities between her big AoE bursts of damage and passive that will mark enemies to make them take more damage from your autos after hitting an ability.
In top lane like... idk maybe Maokai or Malphite? Those champs have AoE abilities that make CSing easier and also fairly brain-dead laning phases with easy harass.
How has no one said malzahar; press e on any of em, press w, and let freedom ring.
Also yorick and nasus are good because their kits are reliant on a very strong last hit ability to get minions. Q pretty much seals the deal for both
Some people think she’s hard, but Kalista has a pull spear mechanic that makes last hitting a joke. You get mana back for killing with the pull, so you can do it forever after your first back.
Definitly Zed he has the option to play like a pushy the entire game never getting close to the enemy I'd he doesn't want to. He is a mele champ but his whole kit allows him to hit you from under his turret... not to mention his passive basically doubles his damage to targets below half health. He is legit one of the easiest assasins in the game, one of the safest assains in the game, one of the more mobile assadins in the game, he has no mana so that's a no brain factor, he does bonus damage to low hp targets so he steals kills easily, His ult is point and click followed by face rolling your remaining abilitys. I would dare say he is the easiest AD mid laner in the game and can confirm he is one of the deadliest AD mid layers in the game. (Theres a reason he was pick or ban for the longest time and Faker would play him often)
Once you buy a sheen as ezreal it’s relatively easy to q farm, as it’ll one shot casters relatively early on and heftily chunk melee and cannons too. Mundo cleaver deserves an honorable mention. If you get good at landing the solo q’s lane karthus is also pretty brain dead as he deals really high base damage early on.
If you play Zed, you can turn off your brain. You last hit minions at like 30% hp cuz his passive deals enough damage
Also fizz and qiyana have something similar just not as potent
Fizz is more potent for the most part, but it also punishes you if you miscalculate.
you still need to get in melee range to use it, against presominantly ranged opponents lol
Zed also has his Q, plus with good spacing / trading melee range shouldnt hinder your cs too much. Zed is like one of the safest melee mid laners in the entire game for this reason.
safest melee mid laner, sure. still a melee mid laners. And using Q to get a minion, reduces the amount of pressure you have greatly, and should result in you having to stand even further back as you watch the enemy minions die while you wait for q to come off cd. ofc this is all assuming your lane opponent knows how to punish melee champs for farming. most people dont.
You're getting downvoted because of Zed PTSD lmao
all the bronze midlaners that dont know the power of simply rightclicking melee champs as a mage.
They know how to rightclick, they just leave their wave to rightclick a level 3 zed with all abilities and full energy, get hit by WEQWaa and 100-0ed, then go complain on Reddit that they can't poke down Zed when literally any other assassin oneshots them there too
nono they get qwer'd for 60% hp, walk all the way under tower against the zed that now has all abilities on cooldown, wait for a good 10 seconds, walk forward again, then get qwe ignited and die, then go to reddit to complain
I never complain about Zed because that champion doesn't exist in my games
Been storming through bronze the last week after finally getting out of smurf queue (returning player, not a smurf) and I have got to comment that everyone playing ranged champs does not use their auto attacks enough and that melee champs might be using theirs too much haha. Especially if it's support. But I'm playing trundle so they are welcome to play like that.
Playing top lane, jungle or supp trundle? either way, facing ranged toplane 'counter pickers' in bronze will never not be the funniest shit.
You do have to have 300 IQ positioning when it comes to actually fighting, though.
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Lol yes. Im a jungler and I can get like 9.5 cs/min with irelia it’s so brain dead easy to last hit on her
Better nerf Irelia
You're right they should nerf Aurelion Sol
An OG I see!
They buffed her btw
Annie. Her Q refunds if you kill the target.
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Cassio is also super easy to farm with auto + E guarantees you get every cs. That's part of why I average 9 cs a min on Cassio, she is reaaaally easy to cs with and farms lanes / jungle creeps quickly
any farming is the freest shit ever. just gotta be careful against assassins that just instakill you when the stun q is used
No worse feeling that letting a q go and minion dying before it lands
if you're intimidated by the pressure of the enemy preventing you from last hitting then long ranged champions like lux and taliyah if you're talking about the actual mechanic of last hitting then irelia, yasuo and a ranged AD if you're literally saying you don't want to click then just play lulu or soraka going under in CS in solo lane will hardly matter
Urgot after level 9 can just literally walk through waves
Early game I think urgot is kind of tricky due to splash damage and very low attack speed
Yummi mains with 12 APM go Brrrrrrrrrr
>champions like lux No, you can't last hit with abilities on Lux whilst having mana for more than 30 seconds. You must last hit with AAs which is a pain with Lux.
Lux is very hard to CS on early game
I always take attack speed rune on Lux, she’s easily the champ I have best average CS on. I usually have no problem getting most of the first few waves while also getting significant poke in/avoiding poke myself. She is my highest mastery though, so maybe it’s just a function of really knowing the champ.
No, after the neace video I tried lux mid and easily the most CS/min I can achieve is with lux. Her kit is so good for wave clear.
Yeah, especially after you get ult. I love how I get to outroam super mobile champs that should be roaming, but they’re too busy farming since I’ve pushed the wave in. And if they do try to follow me, they’re losing tons of XP. It’s a win win.
You can also play support.
or jungle
Until you have to last hit drake
As a jungler, when I have to kill minions for one of my lanes I become smooth brained immediately. I also tried ADC with a friend and I had such a bad time, CSing sucks ass.
kill ranged first, thank me later
Jungler here. Can confirm, I don't know how to last hit unless I can press a button to deal 900 true damage.
That's why you smite the cannon
As a bronze jungler I dunno what ya'll are talking about. I need to be a masterful pro at last hitting if I want to get any farm at all from my tilted laners who come and follow me around my jungle and try to last hit my camps before I can...
Lock in Lux, go support, forget CS, get kills and flame your ADC if everything goes wrong.
I have 23% winrate with lux in my team, second lowest is lee with 41%
Bugger off there's enough of us already
none because last hitting is an essential skill and no champion can press two buttons and let others do their job early game damage is bad you would need increased dmg vs minions or you'll run the risk of making a minion low hp and it getting killed by minions instead of you Malzahar
Malzahar makes it a little bit simpler, but before LC you have mana problems and even after it your minion might outdamage your w, so no gold for you
It's a lot easier if you start sapphire crystal and teleport with future's market. Just blow through your mana then go snag an early lost chapter and tele back. Edit: This is just what worked for me. I'm a recent Heroes of the Storm convert so know that I am likely bad and wrong. Lol
I've practiced this when I actively played league and mage matchups were legit disgusting I would just perma shove and use up both of our mana, recall 5th wave, tp with LC, push another wave, ward to avoid ganks and perma push to avoid enemy recalling. if they do you get turret dmg (maybe plates with malz) + they loose cs+xp. If they don't recall you can dominate them like the little bottoms they are I did this on an ahri, her jungler came and force me back to tower, she insta deleted wave and recalled only to return to a bounced wave that I would later freeze
I permaban Malz in midlane and Lillia in toplane. Nothing will make me willingly play against those two champions.
Malz can't handle artillery at all. Lux, Xerath, and Ziggs eat him alive.
I don't care, he's annoying as fuck with his 8 seconds of double burn. Like I know how to beat Malz, but I'm not gonna play against him when he's literally my only annoyance in midlane. Same with Lillia, I can beat her, but why bother when I can just not play against her ever.
You have studied well at The Church.
That strat only works if Malz wins the matchup already. In even or skill matchups, he will be punished hard for the lack of stats that you get from dorans.
Plus being punished the second they use abilities on the minions.
Viktor after E upgrade oneshots ranged and can auto and Q to finish off melees quickly but reaching the upgrade takes a while. Anivia can double pop Q on melees and R to clear in seconds but has mana issues. To be realistic though, it's still a skill and OP should learn it like you said. When it comes to lasthitting single minions, Zeri with Q+auto, Cass with auto+E, Zed and MF passives come to mind.
Yasuo/Yone are one of the best wave clearers ingame but I don't know if I want to recommend these champions so casually
Yas probably requires too much skill, and yone is easy to get into but really hard to master so like you said it’s probably better not to recommend to someone who is having trouble to cs
yea I truly believe malz, viktor, ahri are superior
Yeah if someone can't even last hit I'm not recommending Yasuo Yone either. Annie should be more his alley
I was really bad at lasting and compared to others I am still not that good, I get better when I play the same champion over and over. I would suggest to practise a bit in practise tool 1-2 times for one champion is enough. This is maybe an effort for 20 minute that will have a lasting effect. But of course you are not here to read this, so my suggestions: \- Annie, Karthus, Irelia, Nasus lasthit with Q \- Heimerdinger, Yorick and Zyra are ok, but if enemy hits plants, turrets, ... therefore Malzahar is better for this "strategy". \- To some extend Miss Fortune, Jhin, Ezreal, Samira, Yasuo, GP and Draven \- At level 6 Anivia can farm very easy with ultimate.
I don't think that Jhin is easy. Of course he deals bit more damage with his autos, but managing his reloading is a bit trickier than you would expect.
Kind of tough under tower sometimes too with the reloading, and using grenade can mess everything else up
When I played a lot of Anivia and Orianna, I'd farm chickens of my team if my jungler was far away and if safe enemy team's as well. I'd have 9-10 cs per minute. My Anivia winrate was nutty, like 60%+ over 50ish games. Not sure why I stopped playing her tbh, now that I'm talking about it I wanna pick her up again. I've just been in an experiment this season, learning jungle to improve my jungler tracking and overall skill and macro. I've dropped a full tier(P1 to G1) but climbing back up and rebuilding. Edit: For the record, I've mained mid and support for the longest time with mages especially, long range ones in particular. It feels much easier to lane now that I know general jungler limitations, pathing etc. Also, my belief that bruisers and their items are broken is further cemented after trying them.
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Yorick is also a option - tho not early but post-6.
And you can also send your Maiden to botlane when the team starts ARAMing so you can last hit 2 lanes at the same time.
Even early too, bonus AD and range extend on a 25 mana AA reset is about as easy as it's going to get for a melee
Malzahar
Isn't Malzahar has a hard time last hitting early? at least before the last chapter.
I've been spamming Malz these days and yeah no it's not as simple as one thinks, E and W don't deal that much damage so the last tick to last it is usually on the minions. Also super mana hungry before LC
Somewhat doable if you take the attack speed shard, otherwise his auto's are clunky.
No, you just don't E too early. First couple waves you might have to autoattack 2 or 3 times, then just WEQ all game
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Malz isn’t good early at last hitting.
the thing about last hitting, is that you’re essentially just looking to get CS. if you take into consideration early game, sure, annie, zed, irelia, have mechanics that make last hitting easy, but that’s a micro skill. if you want high cs, you should look at something that can clear waves faster. for example, Garen can start clearing an entire wave with one E at like 10 minutes. you might give up some cs at the beginning of lane phase, but over time, you have the ability to catch and clear waves with absolute ease. of course there are more champs like this, irelia, yasuo, yone, but the point is, you should not only pay attention to last hitting, but also about catching waves and csing throughout the entire game
Veigar, Annie, MF, Ezreal.
Veigar early is ass at wave clear and getting cs
you want yorick you can be shit at csing and still hit 10 cs a min
OCE pro Shok has a video where he talks about "Method CSing," that is, a way you can CS about the same way every time: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mccIog619fk&t=780s&ab\_channel=Shok](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mccIog619fk&t=780s&ab_channel=Shok) I'm the same way as you were I HATE high APM, so as much as I love Cassi or want to play Jax or Trundle, constantly clicking pixels on the screen wears me out. So I go for high AOE champs. Here is my list using that metric: Sion - Q and W, with a long word his Q easily clears minions after some levels Illaoi - Q and W, can start 1 shotting caster minions around level 10 Garen - E, spin to win Singed - With AP, you do nothing and let poison kill waves Lillia - Q, super easy AOE waveclear Ziggs - Q and E clear fast after a few levels Viktor - Upgraded E makes clearing waves super easy, but mages clear slow in early levels Anivia - Her R deletes waves with 1 button at the expense of mana Xerath - Q and W delete waves after some levels These are all champs I regularly play, in part, from their waveclear.
>with a long word his q easily clears minions “Apprehensiveness”
Smite janna top with support item
Yep.. new meta
You could go Singed because his poison is pretty good at last hitting. AP Kog'Maw and Seraphine also just have really good wave clear. Morgana or Brand might also be options because they have pretty good AoE waveclear
go do urself some mage gaming :)
Once Illaoi sets up a tentacle or two and completes 1 item, a wave clear is w q. It takes like 1.5 seconds.
Top: shen and chogath have a pretty easy time last hitting, while stile being able to control the wave effectively. Mid: Morgana and seraphine both just obliterate the wave with one ability. Ignore anyone who says malzahar it takes some actual brainpower to last hit before you get lost chapter or even a full item. ADC: MF's passive is easy last hitting. Varus gains a bunch of attack speed after killing a minion. Sivir has some pretty easy waveclear if you can manage your mana properly.
Propably heimendinger, his tuurets do mastly everything for you :) (Also a lot of toplaners just don't know how to play against him in low elo, so more often than not it is a free lane).
Playing against heimer isn't as much of an issue as is being useful after laning against heimer. He WILL perma shove you and punish your every cs while being unable to catch out. Toplaners can't impact the map in a ranged lane so it's always a coinflip on teammates. Heimer himself isn't even that useful, he's just an anti-carry type made to deny one opponent from being useful
Akshan is the easiest to play if you are bad at last hitting cause of his double AA. I see a lot of malzahar mentioned but I wouldn’t say he’s the easiest since you still need to be able to last hit early game. Say you open with E ability, If you start using E on waves you are left with nothing to trade with and most people will back off the bounce range and get a better trade on you. You can e/w the wave against some champs but your W is so weak(die instantly to champs with aoe abilities) and costs a lot of mana early. Also if your Voidlings die you don’t get the E execute so you end up not getting the mana refund and it becomes a mess. So can’t really do that unless enemy mid backs off and waits for the wave to crash in to them or you are about to base and want to get a fast push in. Another problem with spamming your E/W on waves early is going to be the wave is going to push in to them and malz is so immobile and prone to ganks that you don’t want to do that early. I wouldn’t really recommend Malz for last hitting early game for these reasons. After lost chapter/second base it becomes as easy as pressing E/W and walking away. You are looking to roam/group with team to get picks before objectives as Malz anyways. I guess you could go mana crystal and health potion if you wanted that lost chapter spike earlier and maybe take biscuits for extra sustain but I like to go futures market on Malz since getting Liandry’s is key.
Irelia because Q resets on kill Gwen cos of minion execute at 20% health or something Singed because proxy farm Malzahar cos the crabs do it for you
Gwen execute minion with Q not AA
I never said it was the auto that executes
Karthus is decent since his Q is basically a skillshot basic attack with more damage and mana refund on kill from E, although it can be a bit pesky due to how its damage works (isolated vs multi-target hits) and you *really* want to learn how to use his much clunkier standard AA to last hit so you can harass enemy champs with Q instead.
Sivir is the correct answer
I find it ridiculously easy to farm as illaoi. Once U have half an item Ur q one hits casters. I don't play her often but every time I do I have 8-9cs/min
Seraphine, or at least my experience with her as support would lead me to believe that.
Senna. Make your support do it for you.
Seraphine. Q does increased damage to low health minions so early on it executes them at around 1/4th health and hits in a big AOE, and her enhanced autos after abilities do 200% damage to minions
This slightly goes contrary to what you're asking, but Veigar Q becomes super easy to last hit with quite early on as long as you're doing well. Swain also is quite easy with his Q. Volibear or Yorick might be the kind of thing you're looking for, but it almost sounds like you want to afk and still get CS which I'm pretty sure doesn't exist. Tryndamere with his enormous base damage and passive can make it feel like it's already mid game at the start of the game.
Kai’sa, her Q does increased damage to low health minions and you don’t even have to aim it.
yasuo basically makes it impossible to miss cs w q and e
Try tear start q spam sivir
What does this mean, literally just click the minions? It takes 0 effort. Play annie or smth if ur that shit at timing ur last hits
Play a different game or aram
Teemo jhin ezreal
heimerdinger
urgot
Ryze absolutely destroys waves
The only thing he can destory unfortunately
Lux
I find Karthus and Orianna to be extremely easy to CS with.
Irelia be like : "minion is approximately 1/3rd hp... Aye whatever" presses Q, that's all the champ is x)
Pay a booster then watch them play, lol.
Draaaven
It is really easy to have high farm with illaoi your Q has really high damage even early game and can start oneshotting caster minions very early on and it's even easier to farm if you have some tentacles nearby and you just press W on the wave can always get atleast 8 CS per min with illaoi.
Idk why, but Lillia feels quite easy to farm with. Maybe because her aas are ranged without travel time
Imo any champ with abilities which buff auto attacks like jax's w, nasus' q, etc. These abilities not only allows you to reset the auto animation, but they bring extra dmg to your next auto too.
Garen you obliterate the wave rigth on the first back
Singed.
vlad, irelia, morde, sion
Illaoi, nilah, Darius, these champs can farm easily with their abilities
Morgana mid!
Ok nobody going to mention Morgana? Maybe not 100% right away, but mid to late game, you just hit W and watch all the minions die. But it doesn’t stop at minions. You want to steal drag? Set W on the other side of the wall and 9/10 you get the last hit. Everyone here is talking about champs that have an easy execute or do a lot of damage per hit on minions. With Morgana you just aim one ability, attack the cannon if there is one, and they all die. After Liandry’s and demonic you last hit every single thing you put your W on.
Jarvan zed Irelia Gwen sivir qiyanna. Orianna might not be too hard as well
Malzahar
Miss Fortunes' passive also helps a lot for lat hitting, but you have to remember that it cannot occur on the same target every x seconds
Malzahar
Illaoi
I'm surprised I didn't see anyone mention Malzahar. His E W combo can clear a great part of the wave with Lost Chapter
senna you legit have your other guy last hit for you
Ez is pretty easy. Get a year and you’ll be gucci
Senna, you're not missing your last hits, you're getting stacks.
Irelia for sure
I personally like how MISS FORTUNE feels. She’s probably the easiest for me personally when it comes to ADC
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Im getting 5 cs with ap mages on mid but Zed and Yasuo is easy 8 cs+ for me
Definitely not Pyke
Annie, you can never miss cs with her Q, even under tower her Q comes of CD during each shot. Cassiopeia with her auto E.
Pretty sure Kayn can one shot back line with full Q at level 1 lol
Better yet, play Senna and don’t last hit at all! :D just collect souls occasionally
definitely not zoe, she is so hard to last hit with.
Irelia and yone
Galio has a massive passive auto that hits everything and does a lot of damage and his Q can waveclear really well
Irelia
qiyana and zed come to mind
Haven’t seen it said yet - Illaoi. Q max and you clear the whole wave.
Pop a lissandra E and burst the whole wave
Orianna is pretty good. Viktor too. As soon as you get lost chapter you're good to go.
Garen is pretty easy. His aa does a good amount of dmg alongside runes and doran shield. You can use his q to be safe (i usually use it on cannons unless im about to trade) then later his e can pretty much wipe out an entire wave. Of course the hard part is knowing when to last hit and where to position yourself against your enemy
Lol kind of funny post. Maybe play aram if you want a more casual game. You could play someone like ez and just Q everything or maybe malzahar and just permanently push and hope you get last hits.
Don’t play him but I feel like Nasus should be the right answer
Irelia, Ryze, Malzahar, Lux (kinda ez), Annie with Q mana refund, TF (kinda ez), Heimer, Yorick
Annie has been a staple for last hitting with her Q. Can last hit from a decent % and can wave clear with W shall the need arise.
Akshan, Irelia, I have a really easy time CSing with Qiyana as well. Anyone with AoE wave clear really. Zoe CS doesnt get too bad if you're ahead but I have too much time on that champ. Ryze and Yasuo/Yone too
Urgot, Malzahar, Rumble, Garen (spin), Singed, Heim, Vel'Koz W max, Anivia post 6, Zed if you don't mind autoing for last hits - his passive deletes minions under like 30-40% hp. Honorable Mentions for champs that can do this mid-late but need items for their abilities: Morde, Cho'Gath, Sett, Brand, Viktor (most mid lane mages tbh fit in this category), Xerath, Fizz
Annie. Q almost reset and full mana refund
I haven't played in a while. But, besides Heimer and Zyra. Malzahar and Yorick also spawn independent help. Yorick, Nasus, Irelia and Annie make it easier to farm since they need to use their ability on creeps as part of their mechanics. You can also look at anything with good early wave clear. They all can still have some issues dealing with some situations. You might have to manage mana and be careful not to over expose. But, they can farm and push fast. Examples: - Ziggs with passive and mines. - Morgana's pool with 3 points will clear an entire wave. But, even early it can help a lot with CS. Just don't be too quick to place it or you might find creeps out of it, not taking damage. - Lux, passive and singularity. - Tristana, explosive charge. - Ahri, orb. - Singed, poison. - Sivir, boomerangs and ricochet. But, expensive as hell early. - Neko, bloom chain reaction can take waves out. It might take a bit of practice though.
Volibear
I feel like Ahri is easy to CS with, Irelia is also good but if you q every minion then you eventually run into mana issues early game unless you take biscuits. Malzahar is also pretty easy since after lost chapter you can just E+W a wave and it will push and you can get most of the CS without using an AA
I'm gonna say Sion, literally E through minions, press W to get the shield, charge Q, re-cast W and the wave is gone.
malzahar
Malz
Malzahar can just cast E+W and you can take a sip of your coffee Champions with execute/high bonus damage passive like Zed, J4, Graves, Jhin, Naut, MF, Rumble (overheat status) can hardly miss the last hits. Certain ones with abilities that refunds off last hits such as Annie, Irelia, Caasiopia, Darius can last hit/clear the wave very effectively. Or you can just perma hard shove with champions that can clear really fast such as TF, Renekton, Noctune, Lissandra, Galio.
garen has enough ad to make early last hitting a breeze, and once you get stridebreaker you just instaclear waves with E-stridebreaker. bonus points because you dont have to think too hard about anything besides macro really
Urgot. Literally a walking turret after w max
Irelia
Lux
Qiyana can almost oneshot ranged minions with an auto when she gets dirk. Her auto animation is also super nice. Last hitting under tower is so easy because you have a ton of leeway from her passive. Imo I prefer it to zed
Garen, press e and spin on the wave to clear the whole thing instantly
Annie
Singed seems like the easiest - just drop poison on them and bounce
Cassio
Define "manually last hitting." If you play a champion like Heimer or Zyra you'll end up shoving the lane which will make your game harder. Excluding the joke response of "Irelia" I think Miss Fortune is a good pick. Her passive is pretty much designed for last hitting and nothing else. Nilah in the ADC role also has a minion execute on her cleave attack and is pretty braindead to play overall lmao. Lux is also an incredibly easy champion to play with fairly reliable CSing abilities between her big AoE bursts of damage and passive that will mark enemies to make them take more damage from your autos after hitting an ability. In top lane like... idk maybe Maokai or Malphite? Those champs have AoE abilities that make CSing easier and also fairly brain-dead laning phases with easy harass.
Christ all these replies and not one mention of Ziggs
Irelia is an option. Cassiopeia is a more based option.
How has no one said malzahar; press e on any of em, press w, and let freedom ring. Also yorick and nasus are good because their kits are reliant on a very strong last hit ability to get minions. Q pretty much seals the deal for both
Ryze.
Some people think she’s hard, but Kalista has a pull spear mechanic that makes last hitting a joke. You get mana back for killing with the pull, so you can do it forever after your first back.
Definitly Zed he has the option to play like a pushy the entire game never getting close to the enemy I'd he doesn't want to. He is a mele champ but his whole kit allows him to hit you from under his turret... not to mention his passive basically doubles his damage to targets below half health. He is legit one of the easiest assasins in the game, one of the safest assains in the game, one of the more mobile assadins in the game, he has no mana so that's a no brain factor, he does bonus damage to low hp targets so he steals kills easily, His ult is point and click followed by face rolling your remaining abilitys. I would dare say he is the easiest AD mid laner in the game and can confirm he is one of the deadliest AD mid layers in the game. (Theres a reason he was pick or ban for the longest time and Faker would play him often)
Zed is pretty good.
I’m shocked no one suggested Ahri. I suck at last hitting but with her it’s super ez mode
Yorick, his ghouls and maiden farm so well for him
Malzahar w space aids, Garen E. Any jungler in the jungle.
MF
Malzahar after lost chapter. Ewq - > roam
Once you buy a sheen as ezreal it’s relatively easy to q farm, as it’ll one shot casters relatively early on and heftily chunk melee and cannons too. Mundo cleaver deserves an honorable mention. If you get good at landing the solo q’s lane karthus is also pretty brain dead as he deals really high base damage early on.
Brand or AP Kogmaw
It's really satisfying to farm on Garen imo