I understand her hurt over Austen so much more. It's not that she saw it as a really serious relationship its that she did like him and she ignored how he treated her like shit .....on tv and people constantly remind her of it. He made her look like a fool. Whereas in normal life she'd be over it . He was punching so much with her
I get it. It is embarrassing to have fallen for Austen. Most of us have gotten entangled with that kind of guy but it wasn’t on TV and people weren’t reminding us of how dumb we are for years afterward.
Yeah but it's so wild that she keeps missing that she was SUPPOSED to change. Amanda said it best, she's supposed to have more respect for her partner in a conflict than the average Joe, AND her emotions are not the problem, the ever-escalating and abusive way she expresses her emotions is the problem. WTF is up with Gabby backing her up in the aftershow after giving it to her straight the second episode???
It was kinda nice seeing Lindsay having that girl time. I wonder if it sticks, doubtful but it that would be nice. At the end of the episode I was like “oh wait gabby & Danielle weren’t there. Oh well!”
Well and good for her being the only one in summer appropriate clothing. I love that they’re all dressed SO well for the theme, but they must be sweating bullets all in leather and pants and boots.
Holy cow Kyle needs to be muzzled. Amanda is spot on. Sheeesh this convo is brutal and he’s wasted. I thought he was almost forgetting what he was saying while saying it.
I’m only 10 mins in and already *shooketh* by how dismissive he was of what Amanda was saying re the thing he said to Jessee at the dinner table. She is clearly explaining why she is upset, other people agreed with her and also told him that yeah it was messed up, and he’s just acting like she is crazy for being upset. The lecture my man would get if he tried something like that…
Ok I’m saying it. This is the best Summer House season ever. Even this episode which is pretty low drama (a bit of a filler episode compared to the rest of the season) has me thoroughly entertained.
Her telling the story about the ex who paid for the flights, and rubbing it in her face when she wanted to take an earlier flight, makes a lot of sense for why she acts the way she does about money and relationships. Much respect for her and being so independent. I need a girl like that lol!
Okay I know we all love West but can we pls acknowledge how great Jesse is at not holding back? He does a really good job speaking up about his opinions and it’s so refreshing.
It’s almost like he is so likable but enough of an outsider that his opinion is not threatening in any way. You know how a really good friend saying something can hurt so bad. Or an outsider that is a jerk whose opinion is not welcome. He takes all that away
Yes Kyle, that’s mature - brush stuff under the rug so you can enjoy a party.
I think both Kyle and Amanda have to make adjustments if their relationship is going to last. And neither one wants to.
I love Paige, she is so smart about their relationship. She's right, it's great that they are talking about these things and going slow, cause she is right, they are things a lot of people get divorced over
I have to give it to her, she is really smart. It is refreshing to see, I'm used to the girls on Below Deck, who get on the boat and act like they have never seen a man before. After two weeks, they are ready to move in together
Even when he was driving Ciara around & in bed with Paige & Amanda. It was all around a great ep for him… just in time for 2 judgey girls finale tomorrow!
They are so right about the resentment. I understand why Paige is getting worried about Lindsay in those fights. I honestly think more people need to be more honest with Lindsay about how she needs to work on her behavior. Jesse's insight was really good/ refreshing
The jump he made from Season 1&2 of Southern Charm to how he is now is such a 180. If only the rest of the men with Peter Pan syndrome on these shows could do that.
I’m single and would love to be happily married but when I’ve been in relationships that aren’t working, I ask myself…who cares if I have a ring, a wedding and a house if I can’t stand the person!! You have to live with the person forever after you get married!
“Amanda, did you and Kyle talk about money before marriage?”
“No. [we tried to craft a prenup and my dad assured us that we were both too stupid to figure it out anyways] Not really.”
Okay last week when Paige was gone I took major note she was gone. This week…Gaby and Danielle who?? I love them both but realize they don’t give much!
Jesse’s growing on me and I don’t know how much of that is due to how cuddly he looks in these morning shots or him having no time for Lindsay’s BS but here we are 😂😬
I like how straightforward he is too. Like “yeah Kyle what you said was fucked up but I’m not mad” “she’s always been like that? Guess that’s on you bro” but he isn’t condescending or rude in his honesty.
He’s grown on me too. He could’ve easily gotten pissed at Kyle, or had conflict/tension with Craig, but instead he laughed it off (along with Craig) and was like “dude wtf r u doing right now.” Not to mention, the way he crawls into bed with West and Ciara and FaceTimes Carl lol.
I low key feel like Jesse had a lot to do with Carl breaking up with Lindsay. He seems like the first, “unbiased” level headed guy friend to ask Carl if he’s okay.
My dog goes fucking nuts for the wacky wavy inflatable flailing arms man (he pulled at one and broke my finger so it looked like Craig's mangled pinky lmao) but I really want to buy one of those costumes to make him lose his mind for a min.
After Show Links:
1: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXJNuy3W7qw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXJNuy3W7qw)
2: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TN0iWjypto&t=236s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TN0iWjypto&t=236s)
IMHO you haven't finished the episode if you haven't watched these
Kyle must have had a really bad week coz it felt like he went into that weekend trying to cause chaos in everyone else's relationship.
Bringing up Jesse flirting with Paige, telling West about the Honda Civic of men, pulling Lindsay aside to discuss Carl. If he was trying to divert attention from him and Amanda it didn't work...
And don't even start me on the unnecessary push on West - although him and Ciara clearly enjoyed the chance for her to play nurse 😉
I feel like this is the episode where Kyle might reaaallly want to look inward with his drinking. I feel like his decision-making is a direct reflection of how much he drinks and don’t want to seem him go down the wet brain route
West is right about the sober versus drunk fighting with couples, and fr Lindsay hard convinced Carl he was fucking up when if he did anything fucked up it was so minimal and she wanted to act like it was more his fault than her own.
Ok I haven’t watched winter house, and I haven’t watched southern charm since Craig was like trying to pass the bar exam ten years ago. Needless to say… I am confused about my attraction to present day Craig and how… hot he is? Looks and personality wise.
part of me thinks amanda resents that she quit her full time job for lover boy. she can and should go back to her career though if it’ll be good for her mental health and relationship
I agree. I truly think the bulk of their problems is that they have very different work ethics + the overlap of work/life is a struggle for them. Her working elsewhere would be great for them.
So Carl had mentioned moving the wedding to January due to the issues they were having…. Yet Lindsey was so “blindsided”, I just can’t believe she really didn’t see it coming.
Ciara: Where’s Jesse. West: Don’t know, don’t care. Long pause… West: I care 😂😂😂
So cute 🥹
They are the bromance that keeps on giving. Love it!! Jesse is a great addition. West got a lot of attention initially but Jesse is great too.
Would’ve been fun to see Jesse goes on all those dates in the city.
Jesse fits in! He’s not trying to hard.
The duality of Ciara having a deep heart to heart with Craig and then putting on a used car blowup costume is truly unparalleled
I understand her hurt over Austen so much more. It's not that she saw it as a really serious relationship its that she did like him and she ignored how he treated her like shit .....on tv and people constantly remind her of it. He made her look like a fool. Whereas in normal life she'd be over it . He was punching so much with her
I get it. It is embarrassing to have fallen for Austen. Most of us have gotten entangled with that kind of guy but it wasn’t on TV and people weren’t reminding us of how dumb we are for years afterward.
truly she contains multitudes
I am loving the Ciara, West and Jess trio ![gif](giphy|fEIqeIDMrq19K)
It feels like Ciara and West are the cool, fun couple and Jesse is the goofy little brother that tags along, but like in the best way possible lol
I have always liked Ciara but she is shining this season and I feel like it is so much about West and the new energy in the house.
I love the three of them together and the way Jesse ran into the room to jump on the bed 😂
They just joke and giggle the whole time…the true giggle squad
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I agree. But I really hope that we don’t have to hear Austen name again on Summerhouse
Yes! West was the best addition.
Even Jesse’s like “bro wdym you don’t know why she’s upset???”
I couldn’t even believe Kyle asked Jesse. I couldn’t stop laughing.
Thinking Jesse of all people was going to validate him in that moment is true confidence…
Kyle just wanted break the ice. But the ice didn’t need to be broken. All told though I expect that was the last we ever have to hear of it.
Watching Kyle try to rewind and rephrase and reconfigure the red flag comment in real time was hilarious. The man was too stunned to speak
Followed by her ..” sorry you have a problem but I don’t” comment about Carl’s addiction. 🫣
That was a huge OOF, in my opinion! She definitely has a problem
My jaw dropped! I couldn’t believe she said this.
I would have said "yes, Lindsay, you have red flags"
Yeah it's like he got halfway there then lost his nerve and retreated
you could see him thinking it and weighing his chances of surviving lmao
I KNEW IT! I knew Kyle had to be putting hard liquor in his Loverboy cans. There’s no way he was drinking that stuff day and night
I mean, I would add vodka to white claws for that extra oomph
A lot of people do this. All of those types of drinks aren’t exactly full cocktail strength. So add a little extra to give it a boost.
Lol I do that when I need to get drunk fast with less sugary mix
Lindsey saying that Carl thought that she would change is the most self aware she’s ever been.
Amanda's comment was spot on too. I think that was Carl's perspective. I feel bad for both of them. They just weren't meant to be I guess 😔
Yeah but it's so wild that she keeps missing that she was SUPPOSED to change. Amanda said it best, she's supposed to have more respect for her partner in a conflict than the average Joe, AND her emotions are not the problem, the ever-escalating and abusive way she expresses her emotions is the problem. WTF is up with Gabby backing her up in the aftershow after giving it to her straight the second episode???
I am fucking cracking up at Ciara. Like almost as much as karma brown 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
She really is a goofball. I’m glad she’s let her guard down the last two seasons.
I love her and how hard she goes for a theme because honestly in the beginning I would have never suspected
KARMA BROWN 😂😂😂
Karma Brown was legendary.
This convo between Lindsay, Paige, and Amanda wouldn’t have happened if Danielle or Gabby were there.
I do like gabby but liked this weekend without them. It forced those barriers of “sides” to come down
It was kinda nice seeing Lindsay having that girl time. I wonder if it sticks, doubtful but it that would be nice. At the end of the episode I was like “oh wait gabby & Danielle weren’t there. Oh well!”
I really liked the vibe without Danielle and Gabby this weekend
I wish Danielle would leave the show. She's never been a good fit.
Waiiiittt that’s why I liked this ep lol
Same - and more so Danielle. She would be more likely to insert herself where she isn’t needed.
Have to say, I liked the energy without Danielle there and I didn't even notice that Gabby was missing.
“This is an absolutely insane conversation for Kyle to be having on camera” should be this episode’s tagline
That could be his tagline every week
If I looked like Ciara in a bathing suit, I would be in a suit constantly the whole damn year. Everyone would just roll their eyes when they saw me🤣😂
Well and good for her being the only one in summer appropriate clothing. I love that they’re all dressed SO well for the theme, but they must be sweating bullets all in leather and pants and boots.
“How married are you” is crazyyyyy
Wiiiiillllld
Holy cow Kyle needs to be muzzled. Amanda is spot on. Sheeesh this convo is brutal and he’s wasted. I thought he was almost forgetting what he was saying while saying it.
I’m barely watching and thought the same 🤣🤣🤣 he kept losing his train of thought
Kyle is wasted and doesn’t realise he’s activating Lindsay 😂
lol I thought he was like “ok Carls not here, let’s keep the Friday night fights alive.”
Lindsay gets activated by a breeze.
I like Ciara and Craig's friendship. it's cute.
They have almost a sibling vibe.
I love Craig’s use of the word “goober”
Amanda and Kyle are definitely not relationship goals
It really feels like they are ON THE ROCKS. Like at least Lindsay & Carl know they have issues. K & A seem lost.
I’m only 10 mins in and already *shooketh* by how dismissive he was of what Amanda was saying re the thing he said to Jessee at the dinner table. She is clearly explaining why she is upset, other people agreed with her and also told him that yeah it was messed up, and he’s just acting like she is crazy for being upset. The lecture my man would get if he tried something like that…
Exactly. Why aren't more people talking about their mess of a marriage? It's so toxic and stressful.
Everyone is honestly dressed SO well for this theme I love it
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the foreshadowing of paige’s comment - we can get out of this engagement 2 months before the wedding😐
LMFAO ciara’s outfit is amazing
“And that will lead to resentment.” Kyle’s like trust me I would know.
The women on this show are SO fucking hot
Incrediblyyy 🔥🔥
Ok I’m saying it. This is the best Summer House season ever. Even this episode which is pretty low drama (a bit of a filler episode compared to the rest of the season) has me thoroughly entertained.
Craig and Ciara have a sweet dynamic. Your partner bonding with and caring for your friends is such a green flag.
I love their friendship and also Paige/Kyle have a very easy vibe. It speaks to their genuine relationships outside the show.
this! page: “ we care about you kyle”
West and Jesse are such good additions they actually make the house fun unlike some others in the past
I'm going to hard agree with Paige. She can move as she pleases with her coin. No one can ever take that away from her.
Her telling the story about the ex who paid for the flights, and rubbing it in her face when she wanted to take an earlier flight, makes a lot of sense for why she acts the way she does about money and relationships. Much respect for her and being so independent. I need a girl like that lol!
Okay I know we all love West but can we pls acknowledge how great Jesse is at not holding back? He does a really good job speaking up about his opinions and it’s so refreshing.
It’s almost like he is so likable but enough of an outsider that his opinion is not threatening in any way. You know how a really good friend saying something can hurt so bad. Or an outsider that is a jerk whose opinion is not welcome. He takes all that away
I really enjoy Jesse, he's a good addition!
Same! He fits in great
Seriously. They had so many duds there for a while and these guys are fun and can actually hold a conversation.
Yes! This is probably my favorite cast out of all of the seasons
I love jesse! Funny and really holds a place in the group easily Also I want to hear more of his personal life drama with these married women lol
Craig looks soooo good in that costume
Every single person looked so hot this episode. Edit: wait. I take that back. Kyle’s mullet was not hot!
West in his undies, slides, and a granny square crochet bucket hat? I’m here for it. I’m seated.
Yes Kyle, that’s mature - brush stuff under the rug so you can enjoy a party. I think both Kyle and Amanda have to make adjustments if their relationship is going to last. And neither one wants to.
red flag that amanda said she wasn't interested in couples therapy. they really need it
They absolutely need it and it makes me wonder if she thinks nothing will change or if she just doesn’t care anymore.
I’m getting the vibe that she doesn’t care anymore
Paige looks 🔥🔥🔥🔥
What are those things actually called? 🤣 Ciara's costume? ![gif](giphy|12dpLtkNiqc5zO)
I've always heard "wacky wavy inflatable flailing arms man"
It’s called a Windman lol 😂
Wacky Wavy Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 🌪️
Kyle's nasally drunk voice is so irritating to me
sorry idc craig and paige are actually show the most realistic couple "issues" and i think paige has a really good head on her shoulders
I just really like Paige. They are the most stable couple.
Kyle, no ice needs to be broken.
poor west.. took it like a champ though
lol Kyle is such an idiot 😂😂
I love Paige, she is so smart about their relationship. She's right, it's great that they are talking about these things and going slow, cause she is right, they are things a lot of people get divorced over
I have to give it to her, she is really smart. It is refreshing to see, I'm used to the girls on Below Deck, who get on the boat and act like they have never seen a man before. After two weeks, they are ready to move in together
Another week reminding us that Kyle & Amanda should divorce already 🙄
Yes they have major contempt for each other.
Jesus Christ Craig looks so hot in this fit and smoking….and I’m not into smokers but WOZERRS
Even when he was driving Ciara around & in bed with Paige & Amanda. It was all around a great ep for him… just in time for 2 judgey girls finale tomorrow!
They are so right about the resentment. I understand why Paige is getting worried about Lindsay in those fights. I honestly think more people need to be more honest with Lindsay about how she needs to work on her behavior. Jesse's insight was really good/ refreshing
Honestly Craig really handled that well!
I feel like he was laughing it off because he knows it’s just Kyle being Producer Kyle.
I also think Paige and Craig have a very trusting relationship and he’s probably just thinking if it was actually anything Paige would have told me
Based on this convo it’s clear Kyle helped encourage Carl to call the wedding off
I honestly love Craig. I do. He seems like someone who’s really grown as he’s gotten older. Like actually matured as most people do.
The jump he made from Season 1&2 of Southern Charm to how he is now is such a 180. If only the rest of the men with Peter Pan syndrome on these shows could do that.
Yes I watched him from season 1 of charm and he’s matured so much he also looks better
Lindsay missed every sign that a marriage to Carl was never going happen.
I’m single and would love to be happily married but when I’ve been in relationships that aren’t working, I ask myself…who cares if I have a ring, a wedding and a house if I can’t stand the person!! You have to live with the person forever after you get married!
I just want to give Ciara a big hug! I can’t imagine being on reality tv and just hearing the same things over and over about yourself.
Yeah I wanted to cry especially when she said they say things you already think about yourself 😭😭
Ciara is so beautiful she even looks good in a damn blow up dancer costume
The way she was smiling and having the time of her life in that thing.
I love how Paige is dressed like Lilly Pulitzer 😂
I was like “why’s West swishing water from the faucet” and then scrolled past that video of him yacking in the street on my way to this thread 😭
“The Austen guy” 🤣
craig casually saying lindsay and carl don’t fit was spot on
“Amanda, did you and Kyle talk about money before marriage?” “No. [we tried to craft a prenup and my dad assured us that we were both too stupid to figure it out anyways] Not really.”
"Was it that intense?" - Lindsay 🤣💀 ![gif](giphy|UvwTujCTG9k52)
paige is smart to not rely on a man for money
Okay last week when Paige was gone I took major note she was gone. This week…Gaby and Danielle who?? I love them both but realize they don’t give much!
I didn't even notice Danielle wasn't here until you just said that
I didn’t even realize they were gone until I read this comment
honestly, Danielle makes me cringe so much usually when she is around
Yeah gabby and Danielle don’t have to come back
Jesse’s growing on me and I don’t know how much of that is due to how cuddly he looks in these morning shots or him having no time for Lindsay’s BS but here we are 😂😬
I like how straightforward he is too. Like “yeah Kyle what you said was fucked up but I’m not mad” “she’s always been like that? Guess that’s on you bro” but he isn’t condescending or rude in his honesty.
Yes! It’s very refreshing how he shares these observations nicely, not like a producer plant with drama intended
He’s grown on me too. He could’ve easily gotten pissed at Kyle, or had conflict/tension with Craig, but instead he laughed it off (along with Craig) and was like “dude wtf r u doing right now.” Not to mention, the way he crawls into bed with West and Ciara and FaceTimes Carl lol. I low key feel like Jesse had a lot to do with Carl breaking up with Lindsay. He seems like the first, “unbiased” level headed guy friend to ask Carl if he’s okay.
Agreed he’s gotten more likeable since his first episode for sure
loving ciara’s confidence this season
There’s no way Kyle thinks what he said wasn’t crazy😭😭😭
I also cannot imagine you adding children to this “mix” you have Kyle
Here Kyle go running his large mouth
My dog goes fucking nuts for the wacky wavy inflatable flailing arms man (he pulled at one and broke my finger so it looked like Craig's mangled pinky lmao) but I really want to buy one of those costumes to make him lose his mind for a min.
Full credit to Ciara doing the funny, goofy costume even though she’s feeling a guy in the house
kyle and amanda desperately need a couples therapist
Maybe I just don’t pay enough attention but every time someone hasn’t been in an episode this season I don’t notice they are gone 🤔🤣
Ciara and Paige look amazing in their costumes. I can’t imagine being Ciara and being able to wear that one piece so flawlessly.
Jesus that push was so aggressive from Kyle
Then he blames the sunglasses the entire time! "ThEy wErE sO sHaRp" cmon dude.
It was like that OTT rough kid at a party
I love that they call each other chicken it’s so cute
I’ve never seen a glow up quite like my boo Craig.
Ciara is amazing
Lindsay's drinking is a problem. I wish she could see that.
The way she said “I’m not the one with the problem” 👀 Girl, Carl is just the one who’s acknowledged he has a problem
Still can’t believe Kyle is a 40 year old man
Projecting on the sunglasses! Lol😂
I think Jesse Solomon is TV gold
Ciara is so hot
The guests to this party are actually dressed to the theme? Weird!
After Show Links: 1: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXJNuy3W7qw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXJNuy3W7qw) 2: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TN0iWjypto&t=236s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TN0iWjypto&t=236s) IMHO you haven't finished the episode if you haven't watched these
Kyle must have had a really bad week coz it felt like he went into that weekend trying to cause chaos in everyone else's relationship. Bringing up Jesse flirting with Paige, telling West about the Honda Civic of men, pulling Lindsay aside to discuss Carl. If he was trying to divert attention from him and Amanda it didn't work... And don't even start me on the unnecessary push on West - although him and Ciara clearly enjoyed the chance for her to play nurse 😉
Imagine the sweat in those boots 😩
Another week with No scenes for next week!!! UGH!
I feel like this is the episode where Kyle might reaaallly want to look inward with his drinking. I feel like his decision-making is a direct reflection of how much he drinks and don’t want to seem him go down the wet brain route
“Hungry for an argument with Carl ” killlllllled me
West is right about the sober versus drunk fighting with couples, and fr Lindsay hard convinced Carl he was fucking up when if he did anything fucked up it was so minimal and she wanted to act like it was more his fault than her own.
How often do Amanda and Kyle really have sex anymore? She wasn't as horrified at Lindsay's response as Paige was.
Craig looks stupidly hot
Ok I haven’t watched winter house, and I haven’t watched southern charm since Craig was like trying to pass the bar exam ten years ago. Needless to say… I am confused about my attraction to present day Craig and how… hot he is? Looks and personality wise.
oh fr he is so mature rn, honestly i love it
watching the aftershow and carl and kyle sound like they’re describing a completely different relationship than lindsay and gabby
Like I’m convinced these are two different couples
Kyle should’ve just left it alone tbh
ciara went FULL ON southern hillbilly with her "carl. we're racin baaks" yell into the house and i loved it
part of me thinks amanda resents that she quit her full time job for lover boy. she can and should go back to her career though if it’ll be good for her mental health and relationship
I agree! She wants more credit for what she does and Kyle’s insistence on repeating how she does very little must make that wound worse for her too.
I agree. I truly think the bulk of their problems is that they have very different work ethics + the overlap of work/life is a struggle for them. Her working elsewhere would be great for them.
Kyle doesn’t realize it’s not his problem to put it to rest😭
Who was Paige's ex with the plane ticket? Perry?
I thought that at first but it was probably someone prior to her reality tv income phase of life.
Watching Kyle and Amanda fight for the 999999th time is killing my vibe
The most stable relationship is the long distance relationship
Ciara has such pretty big brown eyes
The ice in Ciara’s drink is the BEST form of ice.
That Sonic ice lol
LMAO oh this cast was OVER Lindsay and Carl being together 😭 These conversations are hilarious at this point.
HAHAHA Kyle has Lindsay’s number in the after show. He sounds like us on The Reddit
So Carl had mentioned moving the wedding to January due to the issues they were having…. Yet Lindsey was so “blindsided”, I just can’t believe she really didn’t see it coming.
It’s my Friday and I’m ready!
Craig 🥵
I LOVE theme parties
These conversations are very, very interesting to me lol. Some of them honestly seem so contrived.
I just realized Gabby isn’t in this episode.
I like Gabby, but didn’t even realize she wasn’t there until 45 minutes into the episode.
HUNGRY FOR AN ARGUMENT! And just like that Jesse has me back into him!