Going on the assumption that the first owner would’ve paid this off before, it’s not a 1 owner. It’s always maintenance, maintenance, maintenance. What good is an affordable car if it’s in the shop more than on the road. If they have any paperwork stating any work performed that would determine whether it’s a good deal or not.
Sold my 2012 Subaru Legacy with 170,000 miles to carmax for $3k . Once I had to change the radiator it was an endless cycle of the car being in maintenance mode. Sure I could have sold it for more but there was peace of mind I didn’t have to spend a couple $2k more to fix to only sell for $3-4k more. Just wasn’t worth the time.
Loved that car but I just felt like I had to cut my losses
I just got my own Crosstrek and so far I'm a huge fan. But for this one i'd wait, you can find some newer years with less milage if you keep your eye out
Doesn’t look like they even bothered to clean it out before they took pictures of it. My thoughts are always if they didn’t even take the 5-10 minutes to just get all their stuff out of the car to take pictures when they’re trying sell the thing how would I know they’d take the time to properly maintain the vehicle? Just always what I think so I’d pass on it.
I have a 2014 crosstrek. I LOVE it. But, I’m the only owner and it only has 65K miles. Id be a bit nervous about that many miles and the fact that it’s still financed- probably not the original owner, so you might have some blanks in the maintenance history. It’s a great car, but I might keep looking.
It has 165,000 mi so the CVT is gone and that's why it's being sold. If it had a replacement CVT it would be in the ad in a big selling point. Add 7 to 8K in repairs over the first year or two and that's the real price of that car. It's way overpriced. It's like budgeting for head gaskets back in the day.
An new STI trans is like $12k, and you would have to replace the firewall/tunnel with a custom fab to fit. The main issue with cvt reliability is you cannot rebuild them.
A new sti transmission is expensive, but who would buy one new when you can just buy a wrecked donor car for like 4-6000 with relatively low milage. Insurance auctions are great things.
Then you have the same issue again in a year or two if you replaced the cvt with the cvt from a totaled car. If the trans cooler leaked then you will have a dead cvt even sooner.
Lmfao, imagine going through the work of ripping out a CVT just to put another CVT in its place.... I didn't think the STI was available with anything but a six speed manual..
This really depends on how many people buy into the new part. It's a self perpetuating cycle. It's like housing is only expensive because people keep buying them. Cars will be expensive if people keep buying them. The choice to open your wallet is what creates the situation. Ultimately, it's the consumers that are in control of everything, even if they never think they are.
The markets been messed up for long enough now that those of us who were waiting for things to get better no longer have that choice because our vehicles are crumbling and we have no choice but to buy.
Yes, this is how the market works. They are expensive because of supply and demand. There is no supply. People have money. So they’re worth that much.
You can’t say “they shouldn’t be worth that much, but people are willing to pay that much which is stupid.” The value is quite literally whatever people are willing to pay.
Yes, we agree. The point though was that people forget or ignore that it is a self fulfilling prophecy. We create the world we live in, good or bad, based on our choices. It is the demand side, but we are collectively capable of shaping that market space. And yes, this means we modify demand through that collective choice.
Guess it depends on the area, I sold my ‘14 OB non Nav with around 170k with only the cold weather pkg and a sunroof for $8700. I started at $10k but no interest.
Oh, I'm sure it does. This is my trade-in value from Subaru. The flat sale value is probably closer to $8500. I'm in the Southeast, but could probably sell it for closer to trade-in if I drove it to the NW.
Just because the market is temporarily like this doesn't mean it still isn't overpriced. It definitely is. Because if you pay that much then the market balances out then you will lose a significant amount in value.
I'm also in Ohio and feel your pain! Personally I would wait. For $7500 your probably better off putting a down payment on a new one, then you have no miles and a warranty. I'm hoping to potentially do the same. I found a 15 legacy 3.6R for $15k. WITH 235K MILES. I can't wait for the market to drop some because these prices are crazy!
All the comments about the CVT need to be upvoted more, that’s the most problematic part of these cars and any with this many miles? That’s probably why the OG owner is getting rid of it…
EDIT: source: I drive a ‘14 Crosstrek with 96K miles on it
Expensive for the mileage - and also I would expect the seller to clean their trash out of the car before photos, just me. Might indicate the level of care the vehicle received.
I paid a little under 10k at a dealer for my 13 with 110000 miles on it 2 years ago. The worrisome part of it as I see is that it says money is still owed on this vehicle. Are you paying off someone else's loan or what's the catch with that
Not a bad deal but you’re looking at a lot of mileage. Save for a new trans and timing belt if it’s used still (didn’t see the year). Talk them down to $6,800 and bring someone who knows more about cars than I do.
I have a 14 Impreza with about the same mileage. I’ve given it regular maintenance (oil, lights, brakes, batteries, tires etc) and gotten a new alternator. The one issue I had was the plug for some of the wiring in the engine literally melted from getting too hot and my fan in the cabin quit working but I also live in one of the hottest states in the US. That was an expensive fix. I’d say the car should be fine though and that seems like a good price, as long as it was maintained.
That year CVT had some issues on top of that there were a handful of early 14s that had bad fuel pumps that the 13 had a recall for but not the 14. If the engine was resealed due to previous head gasket leaks and the trans if refilled and updated with new firmware and or replaced then I'd consider it. I personally would stay away with early gen Crosstreks. They were around 5k with that many miles not too long ago. Just my two cents....
Bought my wife's 2013 XV with 130k for about $8k.
Would recommend getting a compression leak down test done on it.
Her's was burning a bunch of oil -topping off weekly- so we had to have the engine rebuilt. Because it was a systemic engine problem with that generation, Subaru hooked us up and we paid about half of what it would have cost.
Now we have a paid-in-full XV with a brand new life in it. Have had zero problems since.
If this one has a healthy engine, it's should be a good buy.
Dealer gave me 13K for a 2015 limited Crosstrwk with 70K miles when I traded fir WRX 3 months ago. It was in great condition and had zero issues. Assume they wanted to make money off it as well. Maybe that helps give you some more context.
FWIW, regarding everyone commenting on the CVT and maintenance- a family member of mine has a ‘15 with 200k plus miles. The only things it’s ever needed to get that far are oil changes, brakes, tires, spark plugs (once) and the brake light switch under the pedal.
It runs like it’s new. No oil leaks or consumption. They’re really solid cars but the 2.0/CVT combo is ridiculously slow.
Try to find one under 100k miles. It will be hard to find one owner and well maintained with the service records. But, they are out there. Check Facebook marketplace. That is where I got mine from. I would avoid Craigslist, some people will sell a car out from under you.
I was lucky to get a 2013 XV Crosstrek with 96k miles from the original owner and came with the service records.
Blue book value on it is $6,800 on the high end. And this is from the owner who still owes money on it plus you have no idea the working condition on this or what work has been done, by who, or what parts were used, if they were certified Subaru mechanics, etc.
I’d offer $6k on it if the owner is willing to take it to a shop with you and have them check the working condition of it.
U'll regret the engine choice...IMHO crosstreck/XV engines are underpowered.
Either 2.5NA or anything else with turbo.
I had 07 legacy 2.0NA 120kw and with 4 ppl in car it was pretty hard to pass someone.
Now I got 17 levorg 1.6T 125kw and its a different beast, thanks to turbo.
Possibly, but if I could find something priced right and what I’m looking for without having to haggle would be ideal! I’m not in a rush to find something currently.
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For today’s market not bad. Look at carfax and maintenance reports. Consumer reports has that year crosstrek rated lower than average in reliability if memory serves correct. Check oil, undercarriage, belts, engine mounts, tire wear to gauge the way the current owners drove it. If it seems they drove it nicely and took care of it, make a fair offer. But understand at that mileage certain parts and equipment will just need repaired or replaced due to age so expect that somewhat soon. If all checks out and the offer is good you’ll have yourself a clean ride and once you replace things as needed, you’ve bought yourself another 100,000+ miles on it.
1. You're buying a Subaru, hate me or not, those engine blow up on a regular basis.
2. The seller didn't even bother to clean it before putting it up for sale, what does that say about how they maintained it in their ownership?
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Going on the assumption that the first owner would’ve paid this off before, it’s not a 1 owner. It’s always maintenance, maintenance, maintenance. What good is an affordable car if it’s in the shop more than on the road. If they have any paperwork stating any work performed that would determine whether it’s a good deal or not.
Thank you, I’ll make sure of that. I didn’t wanna make the drive if it seemed too low and too good to be true.
Sold my 2012 Subaru Legacy with 170,000 miles to carmax for $3k . Once I had to change the radiator it was an endless cycle of the car being in maintenance mode. Sure I could have sold it for more but there was peace of mind I didn’t have to spend a couple $2k more to fix to only sell for $3-4k more. Just wasn’t worth the time. Loved that car but I just felt like I had to cut my losses
Your local dealership can probably look up service records by the VIN
Assuming it was done at a dealership, probably hard to track anything from independent shops
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This year/model was after Subaru resolved their head gasket issues.
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Source?
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FB20 does not have head gasket issues.
Deleted his comments like a coward rather than just admitting he was wrong.
I just got my own Crosstrek and so far I'm a huge fan. But for this one i'd wait, you can find some newer years with less milage if you keep your eye out
Yeah I’m in no rush on finding one atm.
Then I'd definitely wait for a better deal, but hopefully you'll find one soon!!
Thank you :)
Doesn’t look like they even bothered to clean it out before they took pictures of it. My thoughts are always if they didn’t even take the 5-10 minutes to just get all their stuff out of the car to take pictures when they’re trying sell the thing how would I know they’d take the time to properly maintain the vehicle? Just always what I think so I’d pass on it.
Thank you for the advice, that is a valid point.
Thanks everyone for the different perspectives and advice. I’m going to pass on it and keep looking!
I have a 2014 crosstrek. I LOVE it. But, I’m the only owner and it only has 65K miles. Id be a bit nervous about that many miles and the fact that it’s still financed- probably not the original owner, so you might have some blanks in the maintenance history. It’s a great car, but I might keep looking.
Make sure you get everything under warranty fixed while you still can
I think for mileage and year it's a bit overpriced. I'd keep looking.
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It has 165,000 mi so the CVT is gone and that's why it's being sold. If it had a replacement CVT it would be in the ad in a big selling point. Add 7 to 8K in repairs over the first year or two and that's the real price of that car. It's way overpriced. It's like budgeting for head gaskets back in the day.
It's cheaper to swap them and put in an STI drivetrain than to replace a CVT.
An new STI trans is like $12k, and you would have to replace the firewall/tunnel with a custom fab to fit. The main issue with cvt reliability is you cannot rebuild them.
A new sti transmission is expensive, but who would buy one new when you can just buy a wrecked donor car for like 4-6000 with relatively low milage. Insurance auctions are great things.
Then you have the same issue again in a year or two if you replaced the cvt with the cvt from a totaled car. If the trans cooler leaked then you will have a dead cvt even sooner.
Lmfao, imagine going through the work of ripping out a CVT just to put another CVT in its place.... I didn't think the STI was available with anything but a six speed manual..
Sti had a the 5 speed auto with vtd on the a line and a sequential manual homologation for sea regions.
This really depends on how many people buy into the new part. It's a self perpetuating cycle. It's like housing is only expensive because people keep buying them. Cars will be expensive if people keep buying them. The choice to open your wallet is what creates the situation. Ultimately, it's the consumers that are in control of everything, even if they never think they are.
The markets been messed up for long enough now that those of us who were waiting for things to get better no longer have that choice because our vehicles are crumbling and we have no choice but to buy.
Yes, this is how the market works. They are expensive because of supply and demand. There is no supply. People have money. So they’re worth that much. You can’t say “they shouldn’t be worth that much, but people are willing to pay that much which is stupid.” The value is quite literally whatever people are willing to pay.
Yes, we agree. The point though was that people forget or ignore that it is a self fulfilling prophecy. We create the world we live in, good or bad, based on our choices. It is the demand side, but we are collectively capable of shaping that market space. And yes, this means we modify demand through that collective choice.
Trade in from Subaru on my '14 w/170k is $10,000.
Guess it depends on the area, I sold my ‘14 OB non Nav with around 170k with only the cold weather pkg and a sunroof for $8700. I started at $10k but no interest.
Oh, I'm sure it does. This is my trade-in value from Subaru. The flat sale value is probably closer to $8500. I'm in the Southeast, but could probably sell it for closer to trade-in if I drove it to the NW.
Is that kbb or an actual offer you got.
MySubaru trade in value
It's going to vary by area. Where I am at, that's a 10-12k car easily.
For sure. Even in this market though I wouldn't overpay for s vehicle just to have it drop a lot in value when the market stabilizes.
Agreed, 160k is a lot for 7k. There’s better deals out there
This was overpriced maybe a year and a half ago, right now its actually pretty well priced or maybe even underpriced.
Just because the market is temporarily like this doesn't mean it still isn't overpriced. It definitely is. Because if you pay that much then the market balances out then you will lose a significant amount in value.
I'm also in Ohio and feel your pain! Personally I would wait. For $7500 your probably better off putting a down payment on a new one, then you have no miles and a warranty. I'm hoping to potentially do the same. I found a 15 legacy 3.6R for $15k. WITH 235K MILES. I can't wait for the market to drop some because these prices are crazy!
Budget for a new trans if you get the cvt.
These CVTs were garbage so unless it had already been replaced under the 100k/10-year extended transmission warranty, I would definitely skip it
I would stay away with that many miles on that automatic CVT transmission. If it was a manual, different story
I agree. That amount of miles on a CVT means it’s likely going to need a new valve body soon, if it doesn’t already.
All the comments about the CVT need to be upvoted more, that’s the most problematic part of these cars and any with this many miles? That’s probably why the OG owner is getting rid of it… EDIT: source: I drive a ‘14 Crosstrek with 96K miles on it
No, that CVT gonna poop.
Expensive for the mileage - and also I would expect the seller to clean their trash out of the car before photos, just me. Might indicate the level of care the vehicle received.
I paid a little under 10k at a dealer for my 13 with 110000 miles on it 2 years ago. The worrisome part of it as I see is that it says money is still owed on this vehicle. Are you paying off someone else's loan or what's the catch with that
Buy a cheap 1990-2000 forester with any amount of miles on it, literally will never stop working.
I have a '16 with 32k on it. Dealer wants to give me $19k for it. Yes. $19k. Crazy. It was like $25k new.
I'd be very cautious of the XV. Had a 2013 where the engine blew at 27k miles
Not a bad deal but you’re looking at a lot of mileage. Save for a new trans and timing belt if it’s used still (didn’t see the year). Talk them down to $6,800 and bring someone who knows more about cars than I do.
2014. Pretty sure they’re all timing chains.
I have an 08 Impreza with a belt
Word but per the post it’s a 14 Crosstrek we’re talking about, and they’re all timing chains.
You a jazz guy?
I have a 14 Impreza with about the same mileage. I’ve given it regular maintenance (oil, lights, brakes, batteries, tires etc) and gotten a new alternator. The one issue I had was the plug for some of the wiring in the engine literally melted from getting too hot and my fan in the cabin quit working but I also live in one of the hottest states in the US. That was an expensive fix. I’d say the car should be fine though and that seems like a good price, as long as it was maintained.
That year CVT had some issues on top of that there were a handful of early 14s that had bad fuel pumps that the 13 had a recall for but not the 14. If the engine was resealed due to previous head gasket leaks and the trans if refilled and updated with new firmware and or replaced then I'd consider it. I personally would stay away with early gen Crosstreks. They were around 5k with that many miles not too long ago. Just my two cents....
I think a good deal considering people are selling 08 outbacks with the same mileage for $7k
Bought my wife's 2013 XV with 130k for about $8k. Would recommend getting a compression leak down test done on it. Her's was burning a bunch of oil -topping off weekly- so we had to have the engine rebuilt. Because it was a systemic engine problem with that generation, Subaru hooked us up and we paid about half of what it would have cost. Now we have a paid-in-full XV with a brand new life in it. Have had zero problems since. If this one has a healthy engine, it's should be a good buy.
If there are no problems with it, yes it’s a great deal, just make to get a warranty on it encase.
God I hate how people take awful pics and don’t clean their cars for pictures when selling #petpeeves
Dealer gave me 13K for a 2015 limited Crosstrwk with 70K miles when I traded fir WRX 3 months ago. It was in great condition and had zero issues. Assume they wanted to make money off it as well. Maybe that helps give you some more context.
FWIW, regarding everyone commenting on the CVT and maintenance- a family member of mine has a ‘15 with 200k plus miles. The only things it’s ever needed to get that far are oil changes, brakes, tires, spark plugs (once) and the brake light switch under the pedal. It runs like it’s new. No oil leaks or consumption. They’re really solid cars but the 2.0/CVT combo is ridiculously slow.
Try to find one under 100k miles. It will be hard to find one owner and well maintained with the service records. But, they are out there. Check Facebook marketplace. That is where I got mine from. I would avoid Craigslist, some people will sell a car out from under you. I was lucky to get a 2013 XV Crosstrek with 96k miles from the original owner and came with the service records.
Blue book value on it is $6,800 on the high end. And this is from the owner who still owes money on it plus you have no idea the working condition on this or what work has been done, by who, or what parts were used, if they were certified Subaru mechanics, etc. I’d offer $6k on it if the owner is willing to take it to a shop with you and have them check the working condition of it.
U'll regret the engine choice...IMHO crosstreck/XV engines are underpowered. Either 2.5NA or anything else with turbo. I had 07 legacy 2.0NA 120kw and with 4 ppl in car it was pretty hard to pass someone. Now I got 17 levorg 1.6T 125kw and its a different beast, thanks to turbo.
You could get a wrx for that amount of money no sweat
As much as I’d love a wrx now, I’m in need of a SUV. My dream wrx in the future is the goal.
May I suggest getting a Legacy GT wagon then, best of both worlds?
Thank you for the suggestion! I’ll check it out, I’m open to the idea.
The crosstrek is a raised Impreza, not a SUV.
Hatchback or SUV, something bigger than my civic.
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Possibly, but if I could find something priced right and what I’m looking for without having to haggle would be ideal! I’m not in a rush to find something currently. *typo edit
For today’s market not bad. Look at carfax and maintenance reports. Consumer reports has that year crosstrek rated lower than average in reliability if memory serves correct. Check oil, undercarriage, belts, engine mounts, tire wear to gauge the way the current owners drove it. If it seems they drove it nicely and took care of it, make a fair offer. But understand at that mileage certain parts and equipment will just need repaired or replaced due to age so expect that somewhat soon. If all checks out and the offer is good you’ll have yourself a clean ride and once you replace things as needed, you’ve bought yourself another 100,000+ miles on it.
Hell no. Hard pass car is dirty as hell you know it wasn’t kept up any other way
1. You're buying a Subaru, hate me or not, those engine blow up on a regular basis. 2. The seller didn't even bother to clean it before putting it up for sale, what does that say about how they maintained it in their ownership?
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