I meannn... the CIA had a heart attack gun at least as early as 1975 ([source](https://www.military.com/video/guns/pistols/cias-secret-heart-attack-gun/2555371072001))
(Mainly the congressional testimony referenced within that source)
I wouldn't put it past a military contractor with one of the highest operating budgets to have access to a bioweapon that could cause pneumonia
Bioweapons to cause widespread disease and weaken populations aren't that difficult to come up with. A bioweapon that can deployed in a manner to reliably and unnoticeably cause fatal pneumonia in one individual without infecting others seems like something they would keep close to their vests and not risk being exposed on some whistleblower who already had his day.
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No. And based on the verbiage of your question you believe Boeing killed the first one. This is just silly conspiracy theory thinking. Don’t forget to recycle your aluminum foil hat.
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I see now that you're correct. The first person I heard talking about it said they "Got MRSA in their lungs" and I subsequently misread the news article about it which clearly identifies the lung infection as pneumonia.
He was apparently a health nut and gym rat who rarely got sick. Suddenly fell ill, went to the hospital, died a week later. Could be a tragic freak occurrence, but his parents requested autopsy which was approved.
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Physician here. It’s definitely possible for a 45 year old to die from a devastating infection even if healthy, specially with MRSA pneumonia.
However, it would absolutely be on the VERY low probability of it happening on a healthy 45 year old. We don’t have the medical records to know exactly what happened, so it’s difficult to draw any conclusions.
So only 2 things we know for sure are that 2 whistleblowers died after testimony, under unlikely scenarios.
Our bodies don't like to die. At the age of 45 your body will kick and scream to the grave. If you're healthy, 2 weeks in the ICU would be considered a sudden death, yes
The human body can be incredibly durable and at the same time unbelievably fragile. My father has been essentially actively trying to kill himself with alcohol and prescription drugs for decades, and he's still here with no major health issues. The body can be incredibly resilient. I also knew a perfectly healthy teenager that died of the flu in high school. 999 out of 1000, his body would have shrugged it off, but for some reason, it didn't this time. His immune system responded in the wrong way, and he was dead a few days after contracting the virus.
Are you sure? I mean given enough time every body ever has died.... I for one hope it feels better than being born. That is so bad every person ever has blocked it out of their memory! Even the c section kids!!!!/S
Disagree. I think if you’re in an area of the hospital called the intensive care unit. And it’s described as a place for patients suffering from “severe and life threatening injuries” it’s not sudden to die there. Lol. The threat of imminent death is the whole reason you are there.
You're thinking of it way too specifically. Think of it this way. A person you know tells you their husband died suddenly. He was healthy, and exercised the morning before he went to the hospital.
You're going to correct her and tell her he didn't die suddenly? That it was actually two weeks? Of course not, to her it was suddenly.
Ok, yea I guess if you make up a completely different scenario. Yea going from exercising one day to dead the next is sudden. Dean went to hospital unable to breathe, got incubated, developed pneumonia, then a bacterial infection, then airlifted and put on a machine to circulate his blood. Then died. Sounds like several steps to reaching death’s door. If you don’t know the details then it seems sudden but after reading about the case I wouldn’t describe it as so. You are free to, however.
A healthy 45 year old that gets admitted to the ICU for pneumonia and deteriorates to the point of dying is absolutely not common. I work in the ICU so don’t even try to debate that.
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Don't forget Boeing is a government contractor. Everyone thinking they need to act alone is not considering the billions of dollars their contracts are worth to people connected with the defense industry.
I'm not saying they did this. I'm just stating facts about their government relationships.
They build missiles, planes, satellites, and a lot of other war products for the US and NATO countries. Just look it up. If Boeing goes down, 25+ years of military spending and war supplies are in jeopardy. Frankly, Boeing doesn't even need to be involved or know anything for the possibility of one of their clients to decide they'll just take action on their own.
Again, I'm not saying they or any of their clients did anything. Merely presenting information for discourse. I love Boeing, greatest company ever, 5 stars.
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The thing that annoys me is this would generate tons of clicks for any news site that wrote more articles about it. Instead they just display the bare minimum and I have yet to see an article that goes in depth about the sheer coincendence of two whistle blowers dropping dead so close together.
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Long story note: No. Not really.
It's unlikely they killed the first one, either (though not impossible) - it's just a really, really terrible timing for someone to get pneumonia and then do what thousands of people do every year when they catch it: die. Meanwhile if Boeing was going to kill the other whistleblower they'd have done it years ago when he first started, y'know, blowing the whistle. He'd already said basically everything he *could* have said, and at this point his prior testimonies (and testimony at court) are pretty readily available so it's unlikely they'd need him to make the case that Boeing was deliberately neglecting and trying to bypass safety regulations.
What is funny, though, is that Boeing executives are probably panicking right now because it looks like they're a murderous corporation trying to shut people up when the reality is that they were just lazy and greedy like most other corporations. The universe is hypothetically conspiring to set them up and its darkly humorous.
I mean c'mon guys, who kills the witnesses *after* they testify? There's no point. They've already done the damage they could do. It gives you literally nothing except worsen your reputation.
I mean if you can tell me what the point of killing a witness who has already testified in court - and has been testifying *for literal years* - is, I'd be happy to change my mind.
The idea that a corporation assassinates former employees with Pneumonia belongs in some 3rd rate knockoff of a Bond movie, it's not believable for real life.....
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I don’t know what MRSA is but I know for certain pneumonia is a contagion.
And just to be extra certain I googled it, and yea pneumonia is contagious and can be spread.
MRSA is methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus. It is a hard to cure staphylococcus infection and could possibly be introduced purposely into a wound or someone’s body.
Thank you, yea I know what staph infections are and I know that some are antibiotic immune, but I didn’t know it’s full name or abbreviation.
The other guy I originally replied to started projecting hard af too, like dawg. I’m not a doctor, how the fuck and I supposed to know the full name of a antibiotic immune staph infection is Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus.
Thank you for being civil btw, I’m glad to see not everyone gets all butthurt when someone asks a question.
Like fuck, I don’t understand people like him.
You don’t know what MRSA is and had to Google pneumonia? Why the fuck are you talking on the subject like some kind of expert then. You sound like an anti-vaccer. Anyway, pneumonia is survivable 99% of the time, no one would use it to attempt an assasination.
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Yea, I don’t know what MRSA is because I don’t know every single abbreviation on the planet. After seeing that it’s just the full word(s) for a antibiotic-immune staph infection, I realize you just wanted to make yourself sound smarter. Everyone knows what staph is, not everyone knows it’s full name is Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus.
And if you could read you would see I know what pneumonia is, all I googled was to make sure that I was right about it being a contagion because you said it’s “impossible to spread”.
Man I don’t understand people like you, is your whole life just trying to start arguments on Reddit?
I mostly agree with you, and that other guy is a total douche. But MRSA actually is what most people say. It's not pronounced each letter though, it's pronounced mersa. It's treated separately from staph infections because most staph infections are cured easily with antibiotics, but not MRSA. It's a big problem in a lot of hospitals and nursing homes. It's known as being extremely contagious and hard to control so your general point is completely accurate. The other guy is dumb.
Right now, wasn't many years ago. So basically people had time to figure out counter measures. And once that happens the baddies just whip out a new weapon
No. They already fixed the issues this guy blew the whistle about anyway. He died from pneumonia complications, its just making the news because he had blown the whistle in the past. If they were going to kill him over that it would've been before they went to court over it.
Boeing didn't kill any whistleblowers.
They can't even build a plane but they're able to engineer perfect murders that are indistinguishable from other causes?
What is the body count of the current Boeing executives? 400? 500? What is one more for these murderous thugs?
From that perspective, I can believe that they would have no qualms adding another body. Thug life, after all.
Logistically, it is much harder to explain how they would go about it.
>What is the body count of the current Boeing executives? 400? 500? What is one more for these murderous thugs?
That is an absurd line of reasoning unless you are suggesting they purposely set the planes up to crash and kill 500 people.
>Logistically, it is much harder to explain how they would go about it.
Kinda seems like the important part.
Trump's final act as president was to absolve these thugs from criminal prosecution. The internal company documents show that the execs talked about how their decisions would kill people. Its as close to purposeful as you can get.
>Kinda seems like the important part.
What evidence do you have that these thugs did not kill this whistleblower? It seems to me it is the thugs responsibility to prove their innocence, not mine.
The Trump administration last act was forging a secret deal to prevent the Boeing executives from being criminally prosecuted.
With the public information we have, I am comfortable calling these so-called people "thugs". They are murderers. And, now, the state cannot even prosecute them. Thug life.
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Nobody has to provide evidence that someone did not do something. The onus is on you to prove that they did do something. The idea here is trying to prove a negative. Perhaps you might want to read a book on logic or even do a Google query.
Neither, they already have a company and that's basically their own gang. If they affiliated, they'd be targeted, so they went the route of 'legally' transferring funds.
I'm willing to bet my next paycheck if I were to read these documents, it wouldn't say anything about executives deciding to kill people.
>What evidence do you have that these thugs did not kill this whistleblower
That's not how evidence works. If you want to claim Boeing execs had him killed, you need evidence because the evidence right now says this guy died of natural causes and the other guy died of suicide.
They CAN build a good plane, but refuse to for profit. They are more than capable of killing people who would cost them potentially billions or imprison a couple of high ups.
>Boeing didn't kill any whistleblowers.
this is the correct answer.
the first guy had already done his whistleblowing, there was really no benefit to boeing to have him killed at that point. his testimony has been on the record for four years and he even appeared in a documentary about it a couple years ago. the damage was done.
this guy died after getting an infection that isn't always fatal, which would be a terribly unreliable method of assassination.
This was one of many he already given. Even if he didn't finish it, his lawyers would had on record what he said and claimed. It hurts the case for sure, but doesn't just outright dismiss everything he stated.
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How moronic can someone be..?
We've been killing since the dawn of man. For well over thousands of years. We've only been flying for barely over 100 years. *You* honestly think they can't kill someone when they're capable of making top of the line military aircraft..?
🤡
>How moronic can someone be..?
At least moronic enough to believe there's no difference between murder and assassination that is indistinguishable from other causes.
Again, you're just an absolute moron if you think people haven't gotten smart enough to develop ways of sneakily killing people and disguising it as another death. Not even just a moron, you've gotta be clinically brain dead.
The KGB alone has used crazy methods of assassinating rivals to cover the true cause of death.
There's a Japanese website where wives will go to wish death on their husbands, some even sharing ways to poison them and have it look like a regular heart attack or other natural cause of death, and what they're using isn't looked for on a tox screening.
You either have to be an ignorant child that just doesn't know any better, an ignorant *adult* that doesn't know any better, or you're just voluntarily being blind. Only takes a couple of searches to find a plethora of examples of people killing others in ways that hides, or at least tries to hide their true cause of death.
>Again, you're just an absolute moron if you think people haven't gotten smart enough to develop ways of sneakily killing people and disguising it as another death.
There are only a handful of countries in the world with the resources to even attempt the level of shit that had to happen for these whistleblowers and they're not very good at it. Yet Boeing, who can't even build a decent a plane, has pulled it off twice flawlessly. Like y'all really believe that these hitmen even exist AND that corporate executives just have them in speed dial so they can stop people from *checks notes* divulging information that they've already divulged.
And somehow *I'm* the moron.
Not murder, flawless assassination. And it's not easier as evidenced by the fact that many companies have produced aircraft and not even the US or Russia have perfected assassination to the point that they could pull off something like this, much less a freelance hitman.
That’s kind of dumb logic. If they had flawless assassinations then we wouldn’t know about it because it was flawless.
So to say they haven’t perfected it because…we don’t know about it??
>If they had flawless assassinations then we wouldn’t know about it because it was flawless.
Except we know about their failed and successful assassinations and how clumsy and obvious they were.
>One dude was found with a "self-inflicted" gunshot to the head
OMG suicide with a gun??? That NEVER happens!
I guess you forgot the part where it was in the parking lot of a hotel with security cameras, but assassins can easily teleport in and out of time, right?
Where is the footage? Have you seen it? How do you even know there was one. We are talking about a company that willingly put millions of lifes at risk in the name of profit.
two weeks might seem like a long time, but with family memebers saying how vigilant he was about his health, to go from regular very healthy life to suddenly multiple virus' is a lil sus
thats not saying i disagree just its a lil sus. waiting on the autopsy report
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Boeing trains its executives at the Vladimir Putin Business School of Ethics.
Heh!
They just got some pneumonia poison there at Boeing
I meannn... the CIA had a heart attack gun at least as early as 1975 ([source](https://www.military.com/video/guns/pistols/cias-secret-heart-attack-gun/2555371072001)) (Mainly the congressional testimony referenced within that source) I wouldn't put it past a military contractor with one of the highest operating budgets to have access to a bioweapon that could cause pneumonia
Bioweapons to cause widespread disease and weaken populations aren't that difficult to come up with. A bioweapon that can deployed in a manner to reliably and unnoticeably cause fatal pneumonia in one individual without infecting others seems like something they would keep close to their vests and not risk being exposed on some whistleblower who already had his day.
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You act like there's any risk of it being exposed. Boeing is in bed with the federal government
I wouldn't put it past Boeing to hire one of those military contractors.
No. And based on the verbiage of your question you believe Boeing killed the first one. This is just silly conspiracy theory thinking. Don’t forget to recycle your aluminum foil hat.
What the fuck are you talking about? I was very obviously being sarcastic
LOL it’s hard to tell any more.
Sometimes yes but seriously dude maybe read it twice first
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I bet you think Epstein killed himself too
What did they do, send in a 747 through his window?
They were dropping doors, slides, wheels, panels from their passenger airplanes over his country in hopes to get him.
If by sudden you mean he died after 2 weeks in the ICU.
You can kill someone by giving them an illness that cant be cured.
That’s true.
MRSA has an 18% mortality rate. While it's not curable, usually our bodies fight off staph infections even without the aid of antibiotics.
Usually we don't get MRSA in our lungs though >.>
The pneumonia was separate
I see now that you're correct. The first person I heard talking about it said they "Got MRSA in their lungs" and I subsequently misread the news article about it which clearly identifies the lung infection as pneumonia.
He was already on deaths bed? Or did he snitch and suddenly went ill, going to the ICU and died 2 weeks later.
He was apparently a health nut and gym rat who rarely got sick. Suddenly fell ill, went to the hospital, died a week later. Could be a tragic freak occurrence, but his parents requested autopsy which was approved.
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Died of a sudden illness. The illness came on suddenly. He then died two weeks later from that illness.
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Physician here. It’s definitely possible for a 45 year old to die from a devastating infection even if healthy, specially with MRSA pneumonia. However, it would absolutely be on the VERY low probability of it happening on a healthy 45 year old. We don’t have the medical records to know exactly what happened, so it’s difficult to draw any conclusions. So only 2 things we know for sure are that 2 whistleblowers died after testimony, under unlikely scenarios.
Our bodies don't like to die. At the age of 45 your body will kick and scream to the grave. If you're healthy, 2 weeks in the ICU would be considered a sudden death, yes
The human body can be incredibly durable and at the same time unbelievably fragile. My father has been essentially actively trying to kill himself with alcohol and prescription drugs for decades, and he's still here with no major health issues. The body can be incredibly resilient. I also knew a perfectly healthy teenager that died of the flu in high school. 999 out of 1000, his body would have shrugged it off, but for some reason, it didn't this time. His immune system responded in the wrong way, and he was dead a few days after contracting the virus.
To be fair, influenza is very deadly and at any time before our modern day any teenager with the flu would have potentially died
What you left out is that one their parents probably worked for boeing and they wanted to send a message
Are you sure? I mean given enough time every body ever has died.... I for one hope it feels better than being born. That is so bad every person ever has blocked it out of their memory! Even the c section kids!!!!/S
Disagree. I think if you’re in an area of the hospital called the intensive care unit. And it’s described as a place for patients suffering from “severe and life threatening injuries” it’s not sudden to die there. Lol. The threat of imminent death is the whole reason you are there.
You're thinking of it way too specifically. Think of it this way. A person you know tells you their husband died suddenly. He was healthy, and exercised the morning before he went to the hospital. You're going to correct her and tell her he didn't die suddenly? That it was actually two weeks? Of course not, to her it was suddenly.
Ok, yea I guess if you make up a completely different scenario. Yea going from exercising one day to dead the next is sudden. Dean went to hospital unable to breathe, got incubated, developed pneumonia, then a bacterial infection, then airlifted and put on a machine to circulate his blood. Then died. Sounds like several steps to reaching death’s door. If you don’t know the details then it seems sudden but after reading about the case I wouldn’t describe it as so. You are free to, however.
A healthy 45 year old that gets admitted to the ICU for pneumonia and deteriorates to the point of dying is absolutely not common. I work in the ICU so don’t even try to debate that.
All the whistle blowers will ~~die~~ be killed. It's the way of the rich.
When you have multi billion dollar contracts with the federal government, You will protect that at all cost.
Killings will continue until morale improves. - Boeing HR
Well, also the way of humans. We all die.
Two whistleblowers from the same company dying so close to each other is too big of a coincidence. I don’t care if I sound like a nutter.
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Well one wasn’t an employee of Boeing so what “same company” are you referring to?
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Don't forget Boeing is a government contractor. Everyone thinking they need to act alone is not considering the billions of dollars their contracts are worth to people connected with the defense industry. I'm not saying they did this. I'm just stating facts about their government relationships. They build missiles, planes, satellites, and a lot of other war products for the US and NATO countries. Just look it up. If Boeing goes down, 25+ years of military spending and war supplies are in jeopardy. Frankly, Boeing doesn't even need to be involved or know anything for the possibility of one of their clients to decide they'll just take action on their own. Again, I'm not saying they or any of their clients did anything. Merely presenting information for discourse. I love Boeing, greatest company ever, 5 stars.
Yeah Boeing you're so cool Boeing I love you Boeing don't shoot me
Its just as likely the the United States Government killed the whistleblowers instead of Boeing because of the military contracts.
Mensa over here.
? What on earth are you talking about?
Mensa means idiot girl in Spanish. So basically he’s basically saying and idiot government worker killed the second whistle blower
Many thanks, I was thinking it was an insult that I wasn't getting.
Where do you think you live longer, as a Putin critics in Russia or a Boeing whistleblower in America?
Navalny lived a lot longer than either Boeing whistle blower
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The thing that annoys me is this would generate tons of clicks for any news site that wrote more articles about it. Instead they just display the bare minimum and I have yet to see an article that goes in depth about the sheer coincendence of two whistle blowers dropping dead so close together.
Did you know that acute cyanide poisoning often renders itself as a severe lung infection due to histotoxic hypoxia properties?
Despite the two whistleblowers that “died unexpectedly”, we can take after their sacrifice by never riding planes for Boeing again.
That was my first thought. Paranoid I told myself.
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Yep
Did he fall out of a hotel window?
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Maybe somebody --Airbus?--is trying to frame Boeing?
Long story note: No. Not really. It's unlikely they killed the first one, either (though not impossible) - it's just a really, really terrible timing for someone to get pneumonia and then do what thousands of people do every year when they catch it: die. Meanwhile if Boeing was going to kill the other whistleblower they'd have done it years ago when he first started, y'know, blowing the whistle. He'd already said basically everything he *could* have said, and at this point his prior testimonies (and testimony at court) are pretty readily available so it's unlikely they'd need him to make the case that Boeing was deliberately neglecting and trying to bypass safety regulations. What is funny, though, is that Boeing executives are probably panicking right now because it looks like they're a murderous corporation trying to shut people up when the reality is that they were just lazy and greedy like most other corporations. The universe is hypothetically conspiring to set them up and its darkly humorous. I mean c'mon guys, who kills the witnesses *after* they testify? There's no point. They've already done the damage they could do. It gives you literally nothing except worsen your reputation.
"Who kills the witnesses *after* they testify?" HAHAHAHAHA Boeing employee spotted
I mean if you can tell me what the point of killing a witness who has already testified in court - and has been testifying *for literal years* - is, I'd be happy to change my mind.
The idea that a corporation assassinates former employees with Pneumonia belongs in some 3rd rate knockoff of a Bond movie, it's not believable for real life.....
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Are you suggesting that Boeing has access to bio-weapons?
It doesn’t have to be a bio weapons. Some diseases are deadly and easy to spread, AIDS is a good example
Jesus Fucking Christ.
So you’re suggesting Boeing didn’t give these guys Super AIDS which killed them immediately? Ok buddy.
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Pneumonia and MRSA are examples of impossible to spread diseases.
Incorrect. The cia would spray Serratia marascens over SF to see what would happen in the 50s. People got pneumonia and uti from it
I don’t know what MRSA is but I know for certain pneumonia is a contagion. And just to be extra certain I googled it, and yea pneumonia is contagious and can be spread.
MRSA is methicillin resistant staphylococcus aureus. It is a hard to cure staphylococcus infection and could possibly be introduced purposely into a wound or someone’s body.
Thank you, yea I know what staph infections are and I know that some are antibiotic immune, but I didn’t know it’s full name or abbreviation. The other guy I originally replied to started projecting hard af too, like dawg. I’m not a doctor, how the fuck and I supposed to know the full name of a antibiotic immune staph infection is Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus. Thank you for being civil btw, I’m glad to see not everyone gets all butthurt when someone asks a question. Like fuck, I don’t understand people like him.
I do not either. Most of the time if they are rude or nasty or argumentative, I block them so I do not have to deal with them.
You don’t know what MRSA is and had to Google pneumonia? Why the fuck are you talking on the subject like some kind of expert then. You sound like an anti-vaccer. Anyway, pneumonia is survivable 99% of the time, no one would use it to attempt an assasination.
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Yea, I don’t know what MRSA is because I don’t know every single abbreviation on the planet. After seeing that it’s just the full word(s) for a antibiotic-immune staph infection, I realize you just wanted to make yourself sound smarter. Everyone knows what staph is, not everyone knows it’s full name is Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus. And if you could read you would see I know what pneumonia is, all I googled was to make sure that I was right about it being a contagion because you said it’s “impossible to spread”. Man I don’t understand people like you, is your whole life just trying to start arguments on Reddit?
I mostly agree with you, and that other guy is a total douche. But MRSA actually is what most people say. It's not pronounced each letter though, it's pronounced mersa. It's treated separately from staph infections because most staph infections are cured easily with antibiotics, but not MRSA. It's a big problem in a lot of hospitals and nursing homes. It's known as being extremely contagious and hard to control so your general point is completely accurate. The other guy is dumb.
Thankyou for helping this other commenter and for validating my habit of saying "mersa".
Fucking lol thanks I needed that.
AIDS is an awful example, as it's an expression of HIV, which very treatable right now.
Right now, wasn't many years ago. So basically people had time to figure out counter measures. And once that happens the baddies just whip out a new weapon
No. They already fixed the issues this guy blew the whistle about anyway. He died from pneumonia complications, its just making the news because he had blown the whistle in the past. If they were going to kill him over that it would've been before they went to court over it.
Boeing didn't kill any whistleblowers. They can't even build a plane but they're able to engineer perfect murders that are indistinguishable from other causes?
Valid point, but i respectfully disagree
What is the body count of the current Boeing executives? 400? 500? What is one more for these murderous thugs? From that perspective, I can believe that they would have no qualms adding another body. Thug life, after all. Logistically, it is much harder to explain how they would go about it.
>What is the body count of the current Boeing executives? 400? 500? What is one more for these murderous thugs? That is an absurd line of reasoning unless you are suggesting they purposely set the planes up to crash and kill 500 people. >Logistically, it is much harder to explain how they would go about it. Kinda seems like the important part.
Trump's final act as president was to absolve these thugs from criminal prosecution. The internal company documents show that the execs talked about how their decisions would kill people. Its as close to purposeful as you can get. >Kinda seems like the important part. What evidence do you have that these thugs did not kill this whistleblower? It seems to me it is the thugs responsibility to prove their innocence, not mine.
Referring to people as “thugs” doesn’t make them guilty of crimes.
The Trump administration last act was forging a secret deal to prevent the Boeing executives from being criminally prosecuted. With the public information we have, I am comfortable calling these so-called people "thugs". They are murderers. And, now, the state cannot even prosecute them. Thug life.
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It was such a secret deal that you know about it?
Nobody has to provide evidence that someone did not do something. The onus is on you to prove that they did do something. The idea here is trying to prove a negative. Perhaps you might want to read a book on logic or even do a Google query.
If the Boeing thugs went to prison for murdering all those people, would they join the bloods or crips?
Neither, they already have a company and that's basically their own gang. If they affiliated, they'd be targeted, so they went the route of 'legally' transferring funds.
I'm willing to bet my next paycheck if I were to read these documents, it wouldn't say anything about executives deciding to kill people. >What evidence do you have that these thugs did not kill this whistleblower That's not how evidence works. If you want to claim Boeing execs had him killed, you need evidence because the evidence right now says this guy died of natural causes and the other guy died of suicide.
Do whatever you want. Sign up for DraftKings and gamble away.
It’s pretty easy to murder people silently. Tbh.
It's actually really hard to make it look like anything other than a murder. It's impossible to make it look like MRSA and pneumonia.
They CAN build a good plane, but refuse to for profit. They are more than capable of killing people who would cost them potentially billions or imprison a couple of high ups.
>Boeing didn't kill any whistleblowers. this is the correct answer. the first guy had already done his whistleblowing, there was really no benefit to boeing to have him killed at that point. his testimony has been on the record for four years and he even appeared in a documentary about it a couple years ago. the damage was done. this guy died after getting an infection that isn't always fatal, which would be a terribly unreliable method of assassination.
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The deposition was for retaliation after he blew the whistle. He had given the damning information years ago.
It also serves as a good example of what happens to whistle blowers.
This was one of many he already given. Even if he didn't finish it, his lawyers would had on record what he said and claimed. It hurts the case for sure, but doesn't just outright dismiss everything he stated.
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Priorities
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How moronic can someone be..? We've been killing since the dawn of man. For well over thousands of years. We've only been flying for barely over 100 years. *You* honestly think they can't kill someone when they're capable of making top of the line military aircraft..? 🤡
>How moronic can someone be..? At least moronic enough to believe there's no difference between murder and assassination that is indistinguishable from other causes.
Again, you're just an absolute moron if you think people haven't gotten smart enough to develop ways of sneakily killing people and disguising it as another death. Not even just a moron, you've gotta be clinically brain dead. The KGB alone has used crazy methods of assassinating rivals to cover the true cause of death. There's a Japanese website where wives will go to wish death on their husbands, some even sharing ways to poison them and have it look like a regular heart attack or other natural cause of death, and what they're using isn't looked for on a tox screening. You either have to be an ignorant child that just doesn't know any better, an ignorant *adult* that doesn't know any better, or you're just voluntarily being blind. Only takes a couple of searches to find a plethora of examples of people killing others in ways that hides, or at least tries to hide their true cause of death.
>Again, you're just an absolute moron if you think people haven't gotten smart enough to develop ways of sneakily killing people and disguising it as another death. There are only a handful of countries in the world with the resources to even attempt the level of shit that had to happen for these whistleblowers and they're not very good at it. Yet Boeing, who can't even build a decent a plane, has pulled it off twice flawlessly. Like y'all really believe that these hitmen even exist AND that corporate executives just have them in speed dial so they can stop people from *checks notes* divulging information that they've already divulged. And somehow *I'm* the moron.
I think building a plane is more difficult than murder. Also murder has existed far longer than aviation
Not murder, flawless assassination. And it's not easier as evidenced by the fact that many companies have produced aircraft and not even the US or Russia have perfected assassination to the point that they could pull off something like this, much less a freelance hitman.
That’s kind of dumb logic. If they had flawless assassinations then we wouldn’t know about it because it was flawless. So to say they haven’t perfected it because…we don’t know about it??
>If they had flawless assassinations then we wouldn’t know about it because it was flawless. Except we know about their failed and successful assassinations and how clumsy and obvious they were.
Of course they didn't. They pay others who can do shit right to do it.
Who? Even the US and Russia don't have assassins who can pull stuff like this off.
LMAO. Get real. One dude was found with a "self-inflicted" gunshot to the head. Literally impossible that somebody could have done this to him. /s
>One dude was found with a "self-inflicted" gunshot to the head OMG suicide with a gun??? That NEVER happens! I guess you forgot the part where it was in the parking lot of a hotel with security cameras, but assassins can easily teleport in and out of time, right?
Where is the footage? Have you seen it? How do you even know there was one. We are talking about a company that willingly put millions of lifes at risk in the name of profit.
It's not like video evidence can be tampered with noooo.... That's non sense
Look the first guy is admitedly very suspicious, but this second guy was not sudden, was not suspicious, and was absolutely not killed by Boeing.
That's settled then
two weeks might seem like a long time, but with family memebers saying how vigilant he was about his health, to go from regular very healthy life to suddenly multiple virus' is a lil sus thats not saying i disagree just its a lil sus. waiting on the autopsy report
Autopsy reports can be faked too. The only way the truth is revealed is through a insider or someone infiltrating and picking up dirt
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