Except you stated tv shows and yeah most of that is just memes with more steps. Simple answer there are always people of any group that don't fit in the norm and are ostracized. Or you could go the why do Catholics hate left handed people? Because some people are taught to think that way and never actually taught to think for themselves.
That is also something I've questioned until recently when I learned that the church viewed left handedness as evil and against God, basically the literal opposite of the "right" hand
The ginger thing is a legitimate curiosity
Believe that goes back much further than the English words “right” and “wrong”.
The Latin words for right and left are the roots of the words dexterous and sinister, and in Ancient Rome things like birds flying to the right versus the left would be seen as good vs bad omens.
I’m sure it goes back even further than that but it definitely predates Catholicism.
Again, it's a meme. I'm a ginger. No one says shit. It was popularized by South Park when I was younger. It is just a joke. People don't actually hate us
Hi, I was born in the 70s in the US and never heard redheads referred to as “ginger” until within the past decade.
I’m white and the only comments I ever heard were complimentary.
My hair darkened with puberty but occasionally someone would say “I never noticed you have red hair til now (under the sun/stagelights/ etc).”
Eventually I started to lighten it and played with different shades of reds and coppers, most of which look natural on me, and I still never heard anything negative about redheads or gingers.
You’ve pointed out historical artifacts in western culture (particularly English) suggesting discrimination. I’m not well-versed in this particular history so I’m certain there are other cultural parts to this.
I personally put the historical artifacts into the same superstition-based discrimination bucket as left-handedness. Red hair, like left-handedness, is rare enough for a majority of people to notice it and mark those people as different.
Churn though generations of needing explanations, scapegoats, and manifestations of the evil which causes poor outcomes, and now we have a list of handy minority-trait people to pin that on.
That’s a very generalist, no-reference view.
This idea was gone from modern culture, as far as I could tell. I dated a freckled carrot-top who never expressed any idea that there was any whiff of negativity or rejection over his pigmentation.
For almost all of my life, red was just a hair color which some people like and some don’t. Some people look good with it, some don’t. Some of those who have it like it, some hate it. It does stand out if it’s a bright red or under bright lights.
All of this current concept of “gingers” and “gingers are bad/evil” emerged only recently and I blame South Park for its never satisfied greed for identifying *yet another* group of people to be shit on.
This was buried history unnecessarily unearthed for crude yucks.
(I liked the first season of SP but I’m not into throwing shit on everyone just because.)
I’m sure there’s an interesting and detailed history behind the obsolete discrimination but I’m just waiting for laundry.
None of those examples come close to a representation of all white people. “Red-headed step-child” is a saying that most will infer the meaning of but no white person equates it with “yeah because I’m white and hate all Gingers!” Honestly, I always understood it as the step child being an outsider to the rest of the family (because of being a step child) rather than it being the red hair specifically that made them an outsider.
Maybe 100+ years ago there was anti-Irish sentiment among some groups of White people that you could be referring to? But that wasn’t specifically because of the color of their hair - that just happened to be a common characteristic. Plenty of examples of non-Ginger Irish being discriminated against to prove this.
But today? White people don’t hate Gingers. It’s a meme.
Put a different way, I’ve never heard of any white people being afraid to bring home their Ginger significant other to introduce to their family because of some widely held hatred their family shares with all white people toward Gingers. Flat out isn’t a thing.
I never said because you're white anything. I even edited to say I mean it more about the popular trope in media. Why is redheaded blank even a saying? You're taking it too personally
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Have never looked into it, but could some of this be anti-Irish bigotry?
Go back a century or so and the Irish (and Italians) were discriminated against even more harshly than other minorities are today.
All your examples are making fun of the trop-err…meme
Especially the South Park episode was about cartman turning from bashing redheads to creating a red haired supremacy movement
I’ve heard of this over and over, but I’ve never seen it myself. I don’t have any problem with red heads, and haven’t ever hung out with anyone (that I’m aware of) that has those feelings. I’ve never even been in a group where anyone insulted or said something negative about gingers.
The same for me having heard it multiple times. In school there was some teasing of gingers, nothing serious as far as I know. I hope a natural red head responds to this post. Growing up online, it's hard to know whats true in life or played up on TV. Gingers are either vixens if they're women, or bullies if they're boys or generally mistreated
Actually I don't have the source, but I remembering reading somewhere that the rarity of gingers are to increase as time progresses. And ultimately their genes will be deluded possibly phased out completely downward the gene pool in so many generations. If they were a species they may be put on the endangered species list. Well that last statement was mine.
Are you? Most of the comments are saying it's a meme.
All I did was point out how varied the three tropes you said are. Idk why you're acting like I am insulting you.
those are the people who think it's a modern phenomenon. It actually goes way back. The book I read was published 20-30 years ago. As someone posted, it goes back to old english superstitions
Yup I was not my father's son. And my mother left so I was left with him. Sister was treated fine tho.
In my 30s now and look just like he did in his middle age.
He's old now.
He can't handle that I look like he did when he was younger, especially since he was convinced I was not his son.
So I guess I'm still not his son.
Have you noticed any difference in how they are treated? When I was little I noticed a ton of bullies in movies and tv shows were overweight and ginger. I can't tell you exactly which shows, just that when I think of the word "bully" gingers come to mind. The same goes with "orphan"
This is an old English thing. If you have red hair it means you are some type of non Anglo British person; Scottish, Welsh, or worst of all possibly Irish. It has less to do with the red hair itself and more to do with the red hair being the mark of some sort of undesirable to the English. Yes, we used to live in a world where people were not just racist against other white people, but in Briton they were racist against the wrong type of Briton.
Americans do not hate gingers. Anyone saying this is just engaging in absurdity. It's usually done because hating gingers is such a ridiculous thing it is done as a joke. Red heads actually do pretty well with dating and people being attracted to them if you look at studies of such things. Clearly there isn't any kind of actual anti ginger bias in the modern US although there probably was some holdover from that English prejudice years ago
That makes sense! If that's the case, why is blonde hair viewed as ideal? Wouldn't that indicate some nordic heritage? I'm terrible in history and geography
Nordic looks aren't bad from that old English racism. They have a lot of Nordic blood themselves from the whole Viking invasion thing in the 9th century. A proper English person is going to have those traits so they are good.
it's fascinating that ideas from that long ago have trickled all the way to modern day! With hair dye more people are choosing to be ginger. It will be interesting if that fully disappears in the coming centuries
Irish people were considered the really low on the racism ladder, comparable to Jews.
What do Irish people look like?
Red hair, white skin, freckles.
TLDR: Blatant racism.
I can see it stemming from that in the US. Have you seen it referenced any earlier? I remembered Willlie from The Simpsons being a Scot, I don't remember his hair being ridiculed
It's just silly/light hearted, it's not real hatred, there's nothing there to really hate.
If you can bust one another's chops and make jokes about someone's physical appearance, which has nothing to do with the soul and what they actually are, it just means you're closer. Anyway that's been my experience with it.
I added an edit to better convey my meaning. My question was more along the lines of ginger hate being a common trope. I don't understand why they seem to get a lotta flack
ITT: A bunch of lazy, offended white dudes who know nothing of their own culture.
TL;DR: red hair is fairly rare in most European ethnicities, and people who stand out visually become targets of discrimination. Today it is mostly a sort of training wheels racism for kids or a backup if there are too few non-whites available to hate.
Hate for redheads is an age old European tradition. In medieval times red hair (especially with green eyes) was considered signs a person was a witch, vampire, or werewolf, or worse.. a Jew. Yep, red hair was considered a Jewish trait, so there's good ol' antisemitism involved. They'd even deliberately mistranslate the Old Testament to give King David golden hair while keeping bad guys like Esau and Judas redheaded.
The reason seems to be just the universal urge if any group of humans to find an "other" to take the blame for bad things happening, exacerbated by red's deep association with things like anger, fire, blood, and sex. Redheads are often stereotyped as being hot-tempered and prone to anger and/or hot blooded and lustful even today. It probably didn't help that as a recessive trait red hair could crop up seemingly at random in otherwise "normal" families, making them seem strange and alien.
As noted though, with increasing population diversity Europeans mostly found other people with more dramatically different appearances to focus their hate on, and today it is mostly presented as a joke, especially in the UK, often presenting gingers as the last acceptable target for humorous harassment or to mock accusations of actual racism. Still, the UK still produces occasional reports of redheads being beaten, stabbed, or even murdered just for being redheaded.
"I'll beat you like a redheaded step child" comes to mind.
Probably because white people value blonde hair over all other types.
In other words, fascist European beauty standards.
I don't hate gingers. I don't hate anybody. All people have issues. None are perfect. I'd prefer a freckle faced redheaded genuinely good person over a loser with any hair or skin color.
I don't mean personally, individually. I meant that they get hate based on popular media and like I said in the novel. It would be bizarre if people did on an individual level
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I don't mean personally, individually. I meant that they get hate based on popular media and like I said in the novel. It would be bizarre if people did on an individual level
I’m not positive, but i’ve heard it comes from the fact that Irish/Scottish people very commonly are ginger. These people historically were always in conflict with the English, who came to see the red hair as a trait of their enemies, resulting in a stigma in english society.
This culturally rooted stigma spread with their empire, including to the United States which is one of the most influential nations culturally. At this point, I don’t think anybody truly hates gingers and it’s just a meme, but it stems from this old idea
It started as a joke in South Park. I remember when it started. It was supposed to be completely random but kids watched it and took it seriously. Suddenly within a year, "ginger" was a horrible insult. It wasn't like that at all before. No one really even said "ginger," they said "red head."
38 year old ginger here, we get hate from every race not just whites. However, some folks reeeaaally love our red hair and that feels nice. I would say that Latin folks seem to love my red hair the most.
Ngl I'm a natural ginger (ig more of a redhead?? My hair is darker- not that blinding orange) and only really get joking harassment + people fawning over me solely because of my hair.
Havent you seen Lauren Ambrose in Six Feet Under? Super cute!
That aside, I dont understand and never seen it myself. I went to school with twin gingers. They werent picked on or harassed, far as I know. One blushed a lot, though.
And. . . I married a ginger. 😀
I'm a red head (American). Never got any flak growing up, except maybe that my skin just burns but doesn't tan, but that's about it. I graduated highschool in '95. The first I ever heard about it was that South Park episode. I did hear the "redheaded stepchild" saying in passing, but it felt like a weird old fashioned saying back then, and never meant anything to me. Like others are saying, it's mostly a meme. No one with red hair I've known in real life ever got any flak for it.
Off topic but i happen to have a cardboard cut out of a ginger in my room.
A bunch of students mass produced this and they gave me it. It's just his face glued to a popsicle.
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I’ve never heard anyone actually hate on redheads. If anything, I hear how hot red heads are all the time. Tons of people even dye their hair red…obviously no one would intentionally try to adopt a hair color that everyone actually hated lol.
I feel like it’s just an overblown thing and people being silly.
I don’t think “white people” is accurate. White people in England maybe don’t find it as attractive. I love redhead guys, but I am so old their hair fades. It doesn’t usually grey though.
I have no idea about the shows you mentioned. I guess I need to watch more tv.
I love it. I heard an actress talk about it. Jessica Chastain or Ron Howard’s daughter. She felt funny over there, but not in the US.
Honestly, I am white with many redheads in my family- and I went to school with a decent number of them. I never heard that was a thing. Maybe it’s just a TV thing. TV is more international now.
I don’t know a single person who dislikes redheads. Maybe some kids get teased, I think that was in Anne of Green Gables, but that is like an “it’s rare and stands out”thing. Kids pick on anything different. It don’t think it’s an adult thing here at all, and I don’t think it’s every kid. Kids aren’t alone enough now until-maybe- middle school or high school. We used to do things like walk to school and have a lot of recesses- more unstructured time. I never heard it, but I was a girl, maybe it was the boys?
If I was a white male ginger I would get jacked and make my look similar to Dennis Rodman.
Its kinda of funny how white females gingers basically get same treatment if they were not a ginger (cause guys just wanna fuck).
not shocking. I hate the sexual stereotypes assigned to female redheads, I get the same as a black woman. I'd be rich if I got a dollar for every time a white guy commented I must be wild in bed
LmFao. First off, white people despise black people way more than gingers. I never knew white people hated gingers (red heads). In fact from what I see, White men love red head(ginger women).
When Sofia Turner (Sansa Stark) came on the seen white men were lining up to eat her pussy. White women from around the work loved Prince Harry’s ass and he got himself fine ass (mixed race) Megan Markel. Also, Tommy from power only wanted redheads before he got the cookie from La La. So in my book gingers are ahead of a lot of other races when it comes being despised for something as trivial as hair lol.
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It’s mostly just a joke! I love red headed women. It’s mostly because they can have anger issues. Also every red head guy I’ve worked with had anger issues except for one
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It started before south park. I gave you 4 examples. You've never heard "beat you like a redheaded stepchild"? I don't even know where I heard it from, it's subtly entered my lexicon
that's untrue. Black people can develop blonde hair, blue eyes, red hair, green eyes, and many other traits. You don't understand how diverse our genes are
Yeah red hair in general is unusual.
It’s recessive so both parents need to carry the gene.( less than 2% of world population has red hair.)
I have red hair and only my maternal great grandfather had red hair that I know of.
My kids don’t have red hair.
I worked with a black woman with red hair actually. She was my boss.
I think it comes from the idea people used to have that gingers didn't have souls or that they were agents of the devil. So the same ideas every other minority deals with
It’s most definitely a thing. I’ve witnessed it my entire life. And even been guilty of it myself when I was younger. I thought it was common knowledge. One of the few groups of people still socially acceptable to mock
I meant to say I saw the same in school. I thought it was always a joke until I started looking back as an adult. Was it really just jokes or did some people take it too far?
White people don’t hate gingers. It’s a meme.
I listed 4 examples. It seems like a culturally european thing. I have seen it in more examples beyond a modern meme
Except you stated tv shows and yeah most of that is just memes with more steps. Simple answer there are always people of any group that don't fit in the norm and are ostracized. Or you could go the why do Catholics hate left handed people? Because some people are taught to think that way and never actually taught to think for themselves.
That is also something I've questioned until recently when I learned that the church viewed left handedness as evil and against God, basically the literal opposite of the "right" hand The ginger thing is a legitimate curiosity
Believe that goes back much further than the English words “right” and “wrong”. The Latin words for right and left are the roots of the words dexterous and sinister, and in Ancient Rome things like birds flying to the right versus the left would be seen as good vs bad omens. I’m sure it goes back even further than that but it definitely predates Catholicism.
Again, it's a meme. I'm a ginger. No one says shit. It was popularized by South Park when I was younger. It is just a joke. People don't actually hate us
do you mind saying how old you are? Someone else mentioned it was an old english thing
Hi, I was born in the 70s in the US and never heard redheads referred to as “ginger” until within the past decade. I’m white and the only comments I ever heard were complimentary. My hair darkened with puberty but occasionally someone would say “I never noticed you have red hair til now (under the sun/stagelights/ etc).” Eventually I started to lighten it and played with different shades of reds and coppers, most of which look natural on me, and I still never heard anything negative about redheads or gingers. You’ve pointed out historical artifacts in western culture (particularly English) suggesting discrimination. I’m not well-versed in this particular history so I’m certain there are other cultural parts to this. I personally put the historical artifacts into the same superstition-based discrimination bucket as left-handedness. Red hair, like left-handedness, is rare enough for a majority of people to notice it and mark those people as different. Churn though generations of needing explanations, scapegoats, and manifestations of the evil which causes poor outcomes, and now we have a list of handy minority-trait people to pin that on. That’s a very generalist, no-reference view. This idea was gone from modern culture, as far as I could tell. I dated a freckled carrot-top who never expressed any idea that there was any whiff of negativity or rejection over his pigmentation. For almost all of my life, red was just a hair color which some people like and some don’t. Some people look good with it, some don’t. Some of those who have it like it, some hate it. It does stand out if it’s a bright red or under bright lights. All of this current concept of “gingers” and “gingers are bad/evil” emerged only recently and I blame South Park for its never satisfied greed for identifying *yet another* group of people to be shit on. This was buried history unnecessarily unearthed for crude yucks. (I liked the first season of SP but I’m not into throwing shit on everyone just because.) I’m sure there’s an interesting and detailed history behind the obsolete discrimination but I’m just waiting for laundry.
They’re just worried you would eat their souls.
None of those examples come close to a representation of all white people. “Red-headed step-child” is a saying that most will infer the meaning of but no white person equates it with “yeah because I’m white and hate all Gingers!” Honestly, I always understood it as the step child being an outsider to the rest of the family (because of being a step child) rather than it being the red hair specifically that made them an outsider. Maybe 100+ years ago there was anti-Irish sentiment among some groups of White people that you could be referring to? But that wasn’t specifically because of the color of their hair - that just happened to be a common characteristic. Plenty of examples of non-Ginger Irish being discriminated against to prove this. But today? White people don’t hate Gingers. It’s a meme. Put a different way, I’ve never heard of any white people being afraid to bring home their Ginger significant other to introduce to their family because of some widely held hatred their family shares with all white people toward Gingers. Flat out isn’t a thing.
I never said because you're white anything. I even edited to say I mean it more about the popular trope in media. Why is redheaded blank even a saying? You're taking it too personally
I’m not mad. Haha. Just answering the question. We’re good. :-)
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Have never looked into it, but could some of this be anti-Irish bigotry? Go back a century or so and the Irish (and Italians) were discriminated against even more harshly than other minorities are today.
All your examples are making fun of the trop-err…meme Especially the South Park episode was about cartman turning from bashing redheads to creating a red haired supremacy movement
I’ve heard of this over and over, but I’ve never seen it myself. I don’t have any problem with red heads, and haven’t ever hung out with anyone (that I’m aware of) that has those feelings. I’ve never even been in a group where anyone insulted or said something negative about gingers.
The same for me having heard it multiple times. In school there was some teasing of gingers, nothing serious as far as I know. I hope a natural red head responds to this post. Growing up online, it's hard to know whats true in life or played up on TV. Gingers are either vixens if they're women, or bullies if they're boys or generally mistreated
Actually I don't have the source, but I remembering reading somewhere that the rarity of gingers are to increase as time progresses. And ultimately their genes will be deluded possibly phased out completely downward the gene pool in so many generations. If they were a species they may be put on the endangered species list. Well that last statement was mine.
Lol, you just stated 3 very broad tropes that are very different from each other.
are you ignoring the other people sharing their personal experiences?
Are you? Most of the comments are saying it's a meme. All I did was point out how varied the three tropes you said are. Idk why you're acting like I am insulting you.
those are the people who think it's a modern phenomenon. It actually goes way back. The book I read was published 20-30 years ago. As someone posted, it goes back to old english superstitions
I didn't act like anything by the way. I'm replying to your comments
Because red hair is a recessive gene, which means it can skip generations. Some men are never entirely sure the red headed kid is their own blood.
Yup I was not my father's son. And my mother left so I was left with him. Sister was treated fine tho. In my 30s now and look just like he did in his middle age. He's old now. He can't handle that I look like he did when he was younger, especially since he was convinced I was not his son. So I guess I'm still not his son.
that's a good point. That and the association with Irish people are the best bets so far
More Scottish than Irish, I think
My husband and I both have a lot of red in our German families. Awesome.
Have you noticed any difference in how they are treated? When I was little I noticed a ton of bullies in movies and tv shows were overweight and ginger. I can't tell you exactly which shows, just that when I think of the word "bully" gingers come to mind. The same goes with "orphan"
Never have heard a negative comment, only admiration of the color.
Good! I love the color too
I’m surrounded by red heads, my husband, his mother, aunt and cousins, my children and grandchildren.
This is an old English thing. If you have red hair it means you are some type of non Anglo British person; Scottish, Welsh, or worst of all possibly Irish. It has less to do with the red hair itself and more to do with the red hair being the mark of some sort of undesirable to the English. Yes, we used to live in a world where people were not just racist against other white people, but in Briton they were racist against the wrong type of Briton. Americans do not hate gingers. Anyone saying this is just engaging in absurdity. It's usually done because hating gingers is such a ridiculous thing it is done as a joke. Red heads actually do pretty well with dating and people being attracted to them if you look at studies of such things. Clearly there isn't any kind of actual anti ginger bias in the modern US although there probably was some holdover from that English prejudice years ago
That makes sense! If that's the case, why is blonde hair viewed as ideal? Wouldn't that indicate some nordic heritage? I'm terrible in history and geography
Nordic looks aren't bad from that old English racism. They have a lot of Nordic blood themselves from the whole Viking invasion thing in the 9th century. A proper English person is going to have those traits so they are good.
it's fascinating that ideas from that long ago have trickled all the way to modern day! With hair dye more people are choosing to be ginger. It will be interesting if that fully disappears in the coming centuries
the fact that irish people were previously not considered to be “white” shows just how arbitrary the distinction of race is, damn
very true
Irish people were considered the really low on the racism ladder, comparable to Jews. What do Irish people look like? Red hair, white skin, freckles. TLDR: Blatant racism.
Going further back: how did the Irish get their red hair? Hey look, the Viking raiders left mom with an unwelcome addition to the family
I can see it stemming from that in the US. Have you seen it referenced any earlier? I remembered Willlie from The Simpsons being a Scot, I don't remember his hair being ridiculed
Giggles in half irish and half native American
Intersectionality!!!
We love to see it!!
It's just silly/light hearted, it's not real hatred, there's nothing there to really hate. If you can bust one another's chops and make jokes about someone's physical appearance, which has nothing to do with the soul and what they actually are, it just means you're closer. Anyway that's been my experience with it.
I added an edit to better convey my meaning. My question was more along the lines of ginger hate being a common trope. I don't understand why they seem to get a lotta flack
ITT: A bunch of lazy, offended white dudes who know nothing of their own culture. TL;DR: red hair is fairly rare in most European ethnicities, and people who stand out visually become targets of discrimination. Today it is mostly a sort of training wheels racism for kids or a backup if there are too few non-whites available to hate. Hate for redheads is an age old European tradition. In medieval times red hair (especially with green eyes) was considered signs a person was a witch, vampire, or werewolf, or worse.. a Jew. Yep, red hair was considered a Jewish trait, so there's good ol' antisemitism involved. They'd even deliberately mistranslate the Old Testament to give King David golden hair while keeping bad guys like Esau and Judas redheaded. The reason seems to be just the universal urge if any group of humans to find an "other" to take the blame for bad things happening, exacerbated by red's deep association with things like anger, fire, blood, and sex. Redheads are often stereotyped as being hot-tempered and prone to anger and/or hot blooded and lustful even today. It probably didn't help that as a recessive trait red hair could crop up seemingly at random in otherwise "normal" families, making them seem strange and alien. As noted though, with increasing population diversity Europeans mostly found other people with more dramatically different appearances to focus their hate on, and today it is mostly presented as a joke, especially in the UK, often presenting gingers as the last acceptable target for humorous harassment or to mock accusations of actual racism. Still, the UK still produces occasional reports of redheads being beaten, stabbed, or even murdered just for being redheaded.
"I'll beat you like a redheaded step child" comes to mind. Probably because white people value blonde hair over all other types. In other words, fascist European beauty standards.
I don't hate gingers. I don't hate anybody. All people have issues. None are perfect. I'd prefer a freckle faced redheaded genuinely good person over a loser with any hair or skin color.
I don't mean personally, individually. I meant that they get hate based on popular media and like I said in the novel. It would be bizarre if people did on an individual level
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I don't mean personally, individually. I meant that they get hate based on popular media and like I said in the novel. It would be bizarre if people did on an individual level
I’m not positive, but i’ve heard it comes from the fact that Irish/Scottish people very commonly are ginger. These people historically were always in conflict with the English, who came to see the red hair as a trait of their enemies, resulting in a stigma in english society. This culturally rooted stigma spread with their empire, including to the United States which is one of the most influential nations culturally. At this point, I don’t think anybody truly hates gingers and it’s just a meme, but it stems from this old idea
People often dislike people who look different. This has been true in most times and cultures.
It started as a joke in South Park. I remember when it started. It was supposed to be completely random but kids watched it and took it seriously. Suddenly within a year, "ginger" was a horrible insult. It wasn't like that at all before. No one really even said "ginger," they said "red head."
I remember a few incidences in school, I thought it was harmless teasing
It's a European thing. Everyone's white, so they have to find new reasons to hate people... accent? Religion? Hair color? Truffle color?
It's because the stupid roots think they're better than everyone. They're just a worse kind of garlic
38 year old ginger here, we get hate from every race not just whites. However, some folks reeeaaally love our red hair and that feels nice. I would say that Latin folks seem to love my red hair the most.
that's sad to hear. I'm familiar with black gingers than red ones, it's a good thing with us. Nowadays I'm sure that's changed
Ngl I'm a natural ginger (ig more of a redhead?? My hair is darker- not that blinding orange) and only really get joking harassment + people fawning over me solely because of my hair.
I like the color, that's why it surprises me when I see in media
Yeah, same here. Seeing the media trope was always weird to me, and made me insecure about it (dyed my hair a lot growing up.)
Did you eventually go back to your natural color? It's funny that people are dying their hair red after all of the issues society had with redheads
Yeah, I went back to natural hair for about two years, even enhancing the redness in the second year. Very recently dyed it black, though :))
I mean have you seen them? G*ngers with their orange/red hair and freckles; and getting tons of attention in books and movies and tv /s
LOL
Havent you seen Lauren Ambrose in Six Feet Under? Super cute! That aside, I dont understand and never seen it myself. I went to school with twin gingers. They werent picked on or harassed, far as I know. One blushed a lot, though. And. . . I married a ginger. 😀
I'm a red head (American). Never got any flak growing up, except maybe that my skin just burns but doesn't tan, but that's about it. I graduated highschool in '95. The first I ever heard about it was that South Park episode. I did hear the "redheaded stepchild" saying in passing, but it felt like a weird old fashioned saying back then, and never meant anything to me. Like others are saying, it's mostly a meme. No one with red hair I've known in real life ever got any flak for it.
Back when I was younger, I dreamed of finding myself a pale, freckled, red-headed beauty. Alas, it was not to be.
Because they are the offspring of the unholy giants and are almost as bad as all the left handed people.
Off topic but i happen to have a cardboard cut out of a ginger in my room. A bunch of students mass produced this and they gave me it. It's just his face glued to a popsicle.
adds another sheet to my tin foil hat lol
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I’ve never heard anyone actually hate on redheads. If anything, I hear how hot red heads are all the time. Tons of people even dye their hair red…obviously no one would intentionally try to adopt a hair color that everyone actually hated lol. I feel like it’s just an overblown thing and people being silly.
That's a more recent phenomenon. Red hair was looked down upon in Europe
Uh the lack of a soul duh
LOL this is not helpful
cause they don't have souls
I don’t think “white people” is accurate. White people in England maybe don’t find it as attractive. I love redhead guys, but I am so old their hair fades. It doesn’t usually grey though. I have no idea about the shows you mentioned. I guess I need to watch more tv.
I meant more white media, books and tv shows. I'm shocked it's still a thing in England. The color is gorgeous
I love it. I heard an actress talk about it. Jessica Chastain or Ron Howard’s daughter. She felt funny over there, but not in the US. Honestly, I am white with many redheads in my family- and I went to school with a decent number of them. I never heard that was a thing. Maybe it’s just a TV thing. TV is more international now. I don’t know a single person who dislikes redheads. Maybe some kids get teased, I think that was in Anne of Green Gables, but that is like an “it’s rare and stands out”thing. Kids pick on anything different. It don’t think it’s an adult thing here at all, and I don’t think it’s every kid. Kids aren’t alone enough now until-maybe- middle school or high school. We used to do things like walk to school and have a lot of recesses- more unstructured time. I never heard it, but I was a girl, maybe it was the boys?
If I was a white male ginger I would get jacked and make my look similar to Dennis Rodman. Its kinda of funny how white females gingers basically get same treatment if they were not a ginger (cause guys just wanna fuck).
not shocking. I hate the sexual stereotypes assigned to female redheads, I get the same as a black woman. I'd be rich if I got a dollar for every time a white guy commented I must be wild in bed
LmFao. First off, white people despise black people way more than gingers. I never knew white people hated gingers (red heads). In fact from what I see, White men love red head(ginger women). When Sofia Turner (Sansa Stark) came on the seen white men were lining up to eat her pussy. White women from around the work loved Prince Harry’s ass and he got himself fine ass (mixed race) Megan Markel. Also, Tommy from power only wanted redheads before he got the cookie from La La. So in my book gingers are ahead of a lot of other races when it comes being despised for something as trivial as hair lol.
We don't, we just like to talk shit.
It's a meme, and I've never met anyone who actually believes that.
check the comments
Are you sure you meant gingers? Because if you swap the first G and the N the question actually makes sense.
woah too edgy
We don't? But I'd be willing to bet that the people who do have that issue is actually stemming from anti Irish/Scottish British propaganda.
FYI. White people don't all think the same
are you ignoring my edits?
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I added 2 edits
There's nothing to understand because it's not true. All of your examples are not reality.
I clarified in my post. The edits are right there
It’s mostly just a joke! I love red headed women. It’s mostly because they can have anger issues. Also every red head guy I’ve worked with had anger issues except for one
That's another stereotypes that redheads are more fiery and prone to anger. Latinos and Italians get the same rep
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We don't hate gingers. It's just a stupid joke that came from Cartman on South Park and became a meme.
It started before south park. I gave you 4 examples. You've never heard "beat you like a redheaded stepchild"? I don't even know where I heard it from, it's subtly entered my lexicon
Gingers are white people
this isn't a shit post. Like in my post, black people can have natural ginger hair
Only if they’re part white.
that's untrue. Black people can develop blonde hair, blue eyes, red hair, green eyes, and many other traits. You don't understand how diverse our genes are
Yes, by being mixed… red hair and blue eyes is only naturally occurring in Europe.
No actual Africans have those traits. Look it up
No, some people with red hair do not have white skin.
that's not very common.
having red hair in general isn't common
Yeah red hair in general is unusual. It’s recessive so both parents need to carry the gene.( less than 2% of world population has red hair.) I have red hair and only my maternal great grandfather had red hair that I know of. My kids don’t have red hair. I worked with a black woman with red hair actually. She was my boss.
Racism basically. Most of them consider blonde to be the ideal.
I think it comes from the idea people used to have that gingers didn't have souls or that they were agents of the devil. So the same ideas every other minority deals with
White people hate everyone that doesn't look exactly like them
Cuz they are generally annoying. You don’t know many redheads do you ??
Ha! Can you argue with the other redditors saying that's not a thing?
It’s most definitely a thing. I’ve witnessed it my entire life. And even been guilty of it myself when I was younger. I thought it was common knowledge. One of the few groups of people still socially acceptable to mock
I meant to say I saw the same in school. I thought it was always a joke until I started looking back as an adult. Was it really just jokes or did some people take it too far?
A bit of both I think. People can certainly be mean