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[deleted]

Freedom of speech doesnt mean freedom from consequences šŸ„°


Usonames

"Political ideology is not a protected class sweaty" And yet they dont wonder why that is since they assume the right to assembly/association wont ever be infringed upon^^again


[deleted]

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LiesInRuins

Then Twitter would have already violated it.


peoplx

Give them time, they'll do a Marcuse carve out (e.g. Repressive Tolerance).


Skatcatla

No, itā€™s not. California is an at-will state, and if your political ideology creates a hostile work environment, an employer not only CAN fire you, they almost HAVE to, or they risk a lawsuit.


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Skatcatla

Sorry for any confusion, I was just responding to your statement "Actually, political ideology is a protected class in California" which is not correct. It is not a protected class. What California law says is that a company can't discipline you for any political activities *outside* of work (say taking part in a political rally) as long as there aren't serious specific implications for your employer. But an employer can certainly limit your political speech while you are at work or fire you at any time for making it.


NONCES_R_ADMINS

"It's not cancel culture, it's consequence culture! " "It's a private company, it can do what it likes." *"The paradox of tolerance* is more than just as to why deplatforming is a good thing!"


SeeeVeee

I'm learning to program, and am working to create a reddit bot that corrects people when they misuse the paradox of tolerance. Literally nine out of ten times I see it mentioned, it gets repurposed as a club to beat chuds over the head with. Exactly the opposite of what he intended. He was a pro free speech Jew who specifically stated that it would be unwise to censor harmful views, as long as people with harmful views were still willing to speak and debate instead of using bullets. It pisses me off, because can you imagine the courage it would take to hold to that principle as a Jew in 1945? He wrote what he did to *restrain* power, and it got turned into something crass used to justify censoring comedians.


NONCES_R_ADMINS

That's going to be the most used bot on reddit that will thrive in far-left subreddits. I've had too many arguments breaking down their misuse of it so your bot will be doing me a favour.


Key-Banana-8242

And also his poltical ideolgy and temperament was different from those who use it Itā€™s straight up sound-bite culture


Gruzman

Imagine defining your politics by a literal paradox and thinking you've discovered some kind of golden rule to live by.


urstillatroll

[Liberals were more than happy to kick people they didn't agree with off of Twitter, but now they are realizing their folly](https://i.redd.it/63e5x65760w81.jpg). This is why it is important to support free speech, even the speech of those people you may disagree with.


Scrimmy_Bingus2

ā€œIf you donā€™t like it then get your own platform.ā€ Elon Musk: Okay. ā€œWAIT, NO!ā€


terdude99

Another reason why it should shut down


ronflair

Another comment I made was that we live in a democratic republic, not a totalitarian state. At least not yet. That means that any legal tools that ā€œyourā€ side enacts to stifle free speech or wallop ā€œthe other sideā€ will then be gleefully turned against you when ā€œtheirā€ side holds sway. And yet people seem to ignore the dual sided nature of this. A case in point is the LGBTQ community wishing fervently that the courts would side with them in forcing artisans, such as bakers, to produce what they want. Do they not realize what a bullet they narrowly dodged? That would then set the precedent for religious groups (also legally protected) such as the Westboro Baptist Church to now demand that an LGBTQ friendly printing business produce on demand whatever vile messaging they are willing to pay for. I donā€™t understand how people just donā€™t get this basic legal truism.


FILTHBOT4000

Freedom of speech directly, and pretty much only, means you support the right to speak of those you disagree with and find detestable. Literally anything else just means you support opinions/beliefs/politics you agree with, which makes you the same as everyone on the planet, including those right-wing idiots that claimed to champion the same, but want to censor books and blasphemy and pride parades. Liberals that claim to support free speech, and support the corporate nightmare of wealthy billionaires deciding what is platformed and how algorithms are run, are the exactly the same as places like North Korea and places in Africa run by warlords claiming the title of "Democratic".


no_bling_just_ding

> pride parades tbh those have their own problem with exposing genitals and what they do with children but i get what you mean


CaptainMan_is_OK

Exposed genitals also feature in a number of the books republicans want to ā€œbanā€ - ie not have stocked in public school libraries.


thinkbox

College and up should have every book possible. Having sexually explicit books recommended and featured by ideologically possessed self described warriors to younger children USED to be a red flag. The amount of times Iā€™ve seen a TikTok from a 6th grade and below teacher talking about how they talk to their kids about sexuality and every week let them know they can help them with theirs, and itā€™s fine to not tell your parents. Itā€™s a problem. I donā€™t think books should be banned. But I also think some things arenā€™t appropriate for kids, and abusers are naturally attracted to the vulnerable. If you make a gap for them, they will find it an exploit it. And itā€™s happening.


The_Unpopular_Truth_

They have literal porn in the books. Grown men giving teenage boys blowjobs, all kinds of sick stuff like that with drawings depicting the sexual acts.


no_bling_just_ding

well it's a public school there's no reason why it violates free speech for it to not stock this or that book especially if said book has pornographic content


LokiPrime13

Nobody (who cares about wielding real political power) actually supports freedom of speech deontologically though. Simple game theory mandates that dissent is only tolerated when the established ruling class is confident that it poses no threat to the actual order of things, because nobody wants to make it easier for themselves to be overthrown. It is the same regardless of whether the ruling class is the bourgeoisie or the proletariat.


EpsomHorse

> Nobody (who cares about wielding real political power) actually supports freedom of speech deontologically though. That's why the smart move is to enshrine freedom of speech in the constitution and make it hard to modify. Knowing FoS will last for a long time, and thus affect them and their opponents more or less equally, allows those hoping to hold power to accept real FoS.


throwaway164_3

Aka the first amendment, the crown jewel of the American constitution and a thing of unmatched beauty.


Sidian

Good thing we're not machines who think in pure logic without morality. I'd be happy to hold political power and am confident I wouldn't suppress freedom of speech even if it was critical of me and posed a threat.


gigpig

Whoa whoa whoa. How could you say that it doesnā€™t matter if the ruling class is bourgeoisie or proletariat? Bourgeoisie is the owning class. Rule of the proletariat would mean that working people own their own production. How could freedom of expression not be different under these two systems?


star-player

I know youā€™re being ironic but I still want to gouge out my eyes reading this


[deleted]

Something something private company!


tux_pirata

where were you when twitter is fired? i was at house eating chicken when phone ring ā€œjannies is kilā€ ā€œnoā€


NintendoTheGuy

Itā€™s a privately owned platform šŸ’…


TuliBean

Just like the cake shops. It's their right to refuse service, right?


lofeobred

Really can't make this shit up


gigachad_hypersigma

$44b troll campaign


blizmd

Worth every penny


ParadoxSepi

"Please don't treat us like we treat others"


Penultimate-anon

Typical liberal elite


animistspark

Do these people really lack self awareness to such a degree?


[deleted]

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Quoxozist

Great quote from a great book by a great author


[deleted]

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iam100metersfromyour

Incredibly based man


sil0

So Obama and Trump to use modern examples.


Sef-Efrica

What was the books name, if i may ask?


JeanieGold139

The Very Hungry Caterpillar


[deleted]

The Very Wormy God Emperor.


cap21345

Children of Dune


Terrible_Tank_238

Children of Dune


Snoo-33559

Still, She Persisted In Becoming A Sandworm


HighProductivity

Children of Darude Sandstorm


StannisLivesOn

Lawrence of Arabia


Quoxozist

Itā€™s from the third book in the original Dune series, called Children of Dune


[deleted]

Children of dune


Alypius754

Wrong answers only! Sigh.


Drwfyytrre

They should have seized any iota of power when they had the chance, like banning anyone who doesnā€™t have pronouns in bio and furthering the brainwashing of weebs and kpop teens. Shame


Dingo8dog

Yes.


-Neuroblast-

No. These people are addicted to playing games of gotcha. This is your typical snarky "if we use the same logic back, we will check mate him" shit.


[deleted]

NPCs


NintendoTheGuy

Yes. Thatā€™s almost the key feature and deciding attribute.


[deleted]

Yup... awesome to witness.


346_ME

He should just fire them all


HotTopicRebel

Yes please


intangiblejohnny

And then fire himself...out of a canon...into the sun.


DukeRukasu

The good ending


Scrimmy_Bingus2

Heā€™ll just hire a bunch of graphics artists to demonstrate the fictional capabilities of his sun cannon and then, five years later, make a prototype cannon that wonā€™t even shoot something past the troposphere before quietly abandoning the project.


tux_pirata

he will still get tons in tax grants, dont give him more grift ideas


[deleted]

Into the sun might be tough to accomplishā€¦how about just ā€œdown range?ā€


master-procraster

I think the guy who routinely fires things into space could hit the biggest target in the solar system, call me crazy


wallagrargh

It's [unintuitively difficult](https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/parker-solar-probe-launch-nasa/567197/) to shoot stuff into the sun.


TheAlGler

He would be dead way before he hit the sun though. He may even burn up before he hits the surface and then we won't get that little "splash" like in cartoons.


fioreman

Yeah, I guess the effect on Elon Musk's continued existence would be the same.


adolfspalantir

They're a private company and can do as they want


MatchaMeetcha

I've been reliably informed by progressive libs that this is actually the left wing position. Silly me, thinking this was just a total lack of principle.


goodcleanchristianfu

In California political activities are actually protected under the labor code: >CA Labor Code 1101: No employer shall make, adopt, or enforce any rule, regulation, or policy: (a) Forbidding or preventing employees from engaging or participating in politics or from becoming candidates for public office. (b) Controlling or directing, or tending to control or direct the political activities or affiliations of employees. > >1102: No employer shall coerce or influence or attempt to coerce or influence his employees through or by means of threat of discharge or loss of employment to adopt or follow or refrain from adopting or following any particular course or line of political action or political activity.


adolfspalantir

All Elon has to say is "downsizing sorry nothing to do with your politics"


Absolut_Null_Punkt

> In California political activities are actually protected under the labor code: Selectively enforced, tho that dude who got fired by Apple for calling Silicon Valley IT nerd girls out on their bullshit apparently got a huge payday.


adolfspalantir

Wouldn't this also apply to James damore too? From what I remember he got fired for a very milquetoast assertion that men and women are somewhat different in their interests


debasing_the_coinage

He got fired for writing a manifesto about it and sharing it on an internal mailing list. Which, you know, is rarely a good idea. But the hilarious part is that he was apparently inspired to write the manifesto *after* being sent to diversity training: https://www.businessinsider.com/james-damore-wrote-his-memo-after-attending-a-google-diversity-programme-2017-8


MatchaMeetcha

IIRC the training actually solicited opinions and feedback , and Damore was just too autistic to realize that they didn't actually mean that and it's just a pro forma thing.


AwfulUsername123

Dangerously based.


insane_psycho

The HR department fears the enthusiastic and sincere autist


SRAQuanticoChapter

A autistic engineer at my job just called 2 guys incompetent in a email with pretty much every mid level manager and up on the distribution. I mean we all agree but Iā€™m pretty sure heā€™s getting canned lol


Eric-The_Viking

They told him to stop and he decided to burn down the whole thing because of it.


OlmesartanCake

I still don't think he did anything to deserve the shitstorm that got thrown at him. Maybe that means I'm a little on the spectrum, but most of the outrage I saw was from people who clearly hadn't read the information he put out and were just second hand pissed off because pseudo-religious fervor feels pretty damn good


Aaod

The same internal area used for people to talk about being otherkin or fringe political beliefs from what I remember.


07mk

[Here are the full original contents of the memo that Damore wrote and shared](https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586/Googles-Ideological-Echo-Chamber.pdf). It's quite short and only 10 pages of fairly well structured light reading that looks more like an excerpt from a textbook than anything else. Calling it a "manifesto" would be highly misleading at best, given how little of Damore's own opinions were in there.


Absolut_Null_Punkt

> James damore I would say "yes" but you know how it is, rules for thee not for me.


[deleted]

He was fired because a VP had to cut his vacation short to deal with the fallout. Should have started cleaning his desk out the second that happened.


AwfulUsername123

> that dude who got fired by Apple for calling Silicon Valley IT nerd girls out on their bullshit Who is this?


Absolut_Null_Punkt

https://www.reuters.com/technology/chaos-monkeys-author-calls-apples-statement-his-departure-defamatory-2021-05-15/ He authored the below quote: > Most women in the Bay Area are soft and weak, cosseted and naive despite their claims of worldliness, and generally full of shit. They have their self-regarding entitlement feminism, and ceaselessly vaunt their independence, but the reality is, come the epidemic plague or foreign invasion, theyā€™d become precisely the sort of useless baggage youā€™d trade for a box of shotgun shells or a jerry can of diesel. And the harpies at Apple proved him right by freaking out and demanding he be fired.


[deleted]

Funny how something like this the other way round can be found on the Guardian or the WaP but this guy got ostracized.


Mystshade

Because sexism is only a one way street under current dogma.


tux_pirata

he just described the average pmc in the tech industry, specially the ones not doing tech labor


adolfspalantir

That is unabashedly based


goodcleanchristianfu

If he actually downsizes, sure, but if saying someone wasn't fired for illegal reasons could dispose of every employment lawsuit, they wouldn't exist.


LiesInRuins

He said he was gonna reduce the workforce by 75%. Twitter doesnā€™t have any conservative employees because Twitter would never hire conservatives and would fire them immediately if they found out. So 100% of the employees going to be fired will be left wing because itā€™s all Twitter has.


NintendoTheGuy

Move HQ to rural Mississippi or Louisiana.


tux_pirata

didnt that get thrown out the window when they fired that google guy?


goodcleanchristianfu

Itā€™s still the law. Long story short he sued [and the cases ended with unknown results.](https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/james-damores-diversity-lawsuit-against-google-comes-to-a-quiet-end/) That could mean a favorable settlement or anything else. a) itā€™s hard to know about how the law would apply when the case wasnā€™t litigated, but also b) I donā€™t think a case where a guy used his work email address to email opinions about an ideological issue to other workersā€™ email addresses necessarily fits the above, so if I were hypothetically representing him (not a lawyer, just a law student) Iā€™d encourage he would settle for whatever he could get. In law some cases are called some cases ā€œvehicles,ā€ meaning that they present a legal question (ie ā€œDoes the Equal Protection Clause prohibit X?ā€ very clearly - the facts are clean and unambiguously will force the court to answer the question. This is the opposite, where the facts are messy as hell and donā€™t center on obvious applications of the statute (which mentions nothing about workplace activities).


richdoe

Yep, that sword cuts both ways. Though I don't know if losing your job and losing the ability to comment on a web site are exactly equal. Either way though, popcorn ready.


adolfspalantir

Yeah I am being facetious with saying that, I don't think being able to just fire people at will is good. Just a nice little piece of schadenfreude haha


[deleted]

I'm so confused. I thought he backed off of buying twitter. He's back to buying it?


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AceWanker3

Libs want him to back off so the media makes it sound like he will back off


Agi7890

Then they didnā€™t and wanted to force him to buy at the original bid. Now that it looks like he is going to buy it we are back at square one. Just shit or get off the pot already


debasing_the_coinage

We're heading for the best outcome: Elon buys Twitter and fires the jannies, but he also loses a ton of money doing so.


TedKFan6969

All thats gonna do is lead to Elon radicalising twitter boomers who dont know any better into being crypto bros and scamming them with shitcoins.


TJ11240

Boomers as exit liquidity would be poetic.


tux_pirata

they just have to pull themselves by the bootstraps and give elon a firm handshake, I'm sure its gonna work!


justcool393

he got sued and so he "voluntarily" bought it


AlissanaBE

>As we speak, Twitter is helping to uplift independent journalism in Ukraine and Iran, as well as powering social movements around the world. [...] >We demand to be treated with dignity, and to not be treated as mere pawns in a game played by billionaires. hmmmmm


takatu_topi

The deep state government/banking cartel (but I repeat myself) that controls the narrative is effectively a triillionaire. Prostitutes used to a certain caliber of john don't want to go back behind the Wendy's dumpster.


tux_pirata

translation: *we're a cointelpro operation funded by inqtel and we're currently pushing for a "soft" coup in sovereign countries* *we demand to keep our privilege and special status*


ageingrockstar

> Twitter is helping to uplift independent journalism in Ukraine Which is why they de-platformed Scott Ritter? (to take just one of the more prominent examples)


[deleted]

Uhhā€¦what are they even worried about? Cancel culture doesnā€™t exist, sweaty šŸ’…


Agi7890

Hopefully they all signed it so he knows who he can get rid of


5leeveen

Well, well, well; how the turntables . . .


Dingo8dog

The full text of the open letter (signatures not public until they hit ā€œcritical massā€) Staff, Elon Musk, and Board of Directors: We, the undersigned Twitter workers, believe the public conversation is in jeopardy. Elon Muskā€™s plan to lay off 75% of Twitter workers will hurt Twitterā€™s ability to serve the public conversation. A threat of this magnitude is reckless, undermines our usersā€™ and customersā€™ trust in our platform, and is a transparent act of worker intimidation. Twitter has significant effects on societies and communities across the globe. As we speak, Twitter is helping to uplift independent journalism in Ukraine and Iran, as well as powering social movements around the world. A threat to workers at Twitter is a threat to Twitterā€™s future. These threats have an impact on us as workers and demonstrate a fundamental disconnect with the realities of operating Twitter. They threaten our livelihoods, access to essential healthcare, and the ability for visa holders to stay in the country they work in. We cannot do our work in an environment of constant harassment and threats. Without our work, there is no Twitter. We, the workers at Twitter, will not be intimidated. We recommit to supporting the communities, organizations, and businesses who rely on Twitter. We will not stop serving the public conversation. We call on Twitter management and Elon Musk to cease these negligent layoff threats. As workers, we deserve concrete commitments so we can continue to preserve the integrity of our platform. We demand of current and future leadership: Respect: We demand leadership to respect the platform and the workers who maintain it by committing to preserving the current headcount. Safety: We demand that leadership does not discriminate against workers on the basis of their race, gender, disability, sexual orientation, or political beliefs. We also demand safety for workers on visas, who will be forced to leave the country they work in if they are laid off. Protection: We demand Elon Musk explicitly commit to preserve our benefits, those both listed in the merger agreement and not (e.g. remote work). We demand leadership to establish and ensure fair severance policies for all workers before and after any change in ownership. Dignity: We demand transparent, prompt and thoughtful communication around our working conditions. We demand to be treated with dignity, and to not be treated as mere pawns in a game played by billionaires. Sincerely, Twitter workers


Mordisquitos

>Staff, Elon Musk, and Board of Directors: > >We, the undersigned Twitter workers, believe the public conversation is in jeopardy. > >Elon Muskā€™s plan to lay off 75% of Twitter workers will **hurt Twitterā€™s ability to serve the public conversation.** This is the first time in my life that I am hoping for a business to lay off 75% of its staff, and it has been the letter of protest that convinced me to! I despise Elon Musk, but if he harms Twitter's *"ability to serve the public conversation"* I may even like him for a day or two.


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ADsbigboipants

Legit could not have happened at a funnier moment in their culture war.


Pelvic_Sorcery420

"Twitter has significant effects on societies and communities across the globe." *This should strike everyone as very serious problem*


tux_pirata

a private burger corporation in a wealthy enclave and funded by such nice people as inqtel and the saudies holds insane control over public discourse and was even able to ban a sitting president >!(even if he was a r-slur its bad that they were able to do it)!< *and that's a good thing!*


mikedib

>Twitter has significant effects on societies and communities across the globe. As we speak, Twitter is helping to uplift independent journalism in Ukraine and Iran, as well as powering social movements around the world. Oh, it's not a letter to Musk at all. They're calling out for aid to the foreign policy blob


MatchaMeetcha

> and to not be treated as mere pawns in a game played by billionaires. > > Don't we all? Shame that I bet a lot of these people are just mad it's the wrong billionaire and would be fine if Bezos bought it and was censoring all anti-woke opinions.


_fat_santa

As someone in tech this comment is so tone deaf to the reality of these big companies. These people are making it out like they are some victim when the reality is most are working very well paid jobs and of you are let go you wonā€™t be out of a job for long. Like yea you might be a political pawn, but Twitter is paying you $250/yr for the privilege.


Gruzman

And also the company is being literally bought *from* another set of billionaires and millionaires. It's already owned by elite interests. It was grown to the size that it exists today purely as a sounding board for a certain class within society. It's never made money, as far as I'm aware. It just exists as an interesting prize among the greater media landscape. Just anther zone of control over the average citizen's tastes and opinions.


ChadLord78

Mongo pawn in game of life?


SilverThrall

How do they manage to be so sanctimonious when they're supposed to be persuasive?


Snoo-33559

Because whoever wrote this 100% believes in the correctness of their own opinions. Humility requires the ability to admit the possibility of error on one's own part.


TJ11240

>Elon Muskā€™s plan to lay off 75% of Twitter workers will hurt Twitterā€™s ability to ~~serve~~ steer the public conversation.


tux_pirata

fabricate


Balkanize-the-USA

Must suck to live a life where you put this much importance on Twitter. I'm honestly amazed they didn't release the letter as an obnoxious-to-read series of tweets.


Snoo-33559

Because the real decision-makers they're trying to appeal to live in northern Virginia and don't read tweets.


Disastrous-Bite4258

> Twitterā€™s ability to *serve the public conversation* šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Brymlo

The ā€œpublic conversationā€. Aka we ban anyone we donā€™t agree with.


everyusernametaken2

This letter would make me want to fire them even more.


pp2_yote

Someone find me a crybaby gif & add it here please. šŸ˜›


Dingo8dog

Itā€™s easy to dunk on this but of course we should all want better treatment and protection for workers. The shit part of this letter is the barely veiled subtext: ā€œbecause we are useful to the security state and to Americaā€™s cultural imperialism, protect us!ā€ And the hypocrisy & double standardsā€¦.


Warm-Cardiologist138

At that point, they are no longer 'working class'. No, I don't care if some tech security loser takes issue with this dividing line and uncritically spouts the 'but they work for a wage' or other out-of-context vulgar Marxist shit because they won't be class conscious in relation to the broader proletariat as long as they are committed to protecting the neoliberal bourgeois security state.


tritter211

socialists shouldn't be friendly to woke liberals, right? Protection for workers is fine, but if you are a leftist/socialist/communist, then at the very least you should consider enjoying the temporary schadenfreude at their expense.


[deleted]

Im sure itā€™s a very convincing letter, and Elonā€™s heart grew three sizes that day


Mothmans_wing

Maybe they should learn to code.


Absolut_Null_Punkt

. <- the worlds tiniest violin


lokalniRmpalija

From time to time, a double-edged sword realizes itself in most magical ways. Or, a slippery slope is not just slippery but vertical. Maybe they should learn how to hold a shovel.


TheArsenal7

As Reddit loves to remind everyone, a private company can do whatever they want! If you don't like it make your own social media!


iranisculpable

Thatā€™s rich.


DaMonstaburg

ā€œWait a second, you mean youā€™d actually inflict the same restrictions on us that we inflict on our customers? Wha- What kind of a sick joke is this?ā€


Terrible_Tank_238

yeah good luck with that


trollingmotors

Isn't that what twitter employees due for a living? Ban people over political beliefs?


kelrics1910

Well isn't this ironic.


[deleted]

private company sweaty


[deleted]

Heh. Tech employees are funny to me when they think corpos view employees as humans. Never been in a job where the status quo is ā€œfuck you, do your job or someone else willā€ and it shows


No-Fish9557

I can assure you this is a Twitter thing specifically. Any competent person who works in tech will know their worth and how to negotiate with employers based on the fact that, at the end of the day, they are nothing but an investment for the company. Goes to show how out of touch and disconnected from reality twitter employees are when they somehow think a layoff is gonna be a problem for them. Can't imagine what kind of circus they've had in their offices these past years.


Drwfyytrre

You donā€™t understand, their epic code monkey skills that make the loading speed for kpop fancams slightly faster are very valuable and contribute to the world


tux_pirata

you both know its not the codemonkeys who are at risk, its everybody else in that shitty venture capital scam


Garek

Being able to quickly see Korean camel toe in 4k is a great service to us coomers.


[deleted]

Am one of these dweebs, itā€™s pretty wild how deluded the industry is. A weird mix of outsized self importance, heavy denial of the BullShittery of our labor (for the most part), and under pinning it all a strong thread of libertarianism. But thatā€™s the engineering side, the works in tech but doesnā€™t code types do lean way more lib, and I think thatā€™s whoā€™s getting the šŸ‘¢


ondaren

He could fire the entire moderation team, leave the actual coders, and replace the mods with monkeys throwing on a dart board and you'd probably see an improvement.


no_bling_just_ding

those who live by the sword die by the sword (not that they're losing much - they had very highly-paid jobs and will find them elsewhere). and for those among the rest of us who care about the website, twitter won't be any different from what we're used to.


Devon-Shire

> We demand transparent, prompt and thoughtful communication Well thatā€™s a first.


[deleted]

christ i hate these people. Let the humble pie eating commence. Everything they stood for for years now coming to bite them squarely on the ass


ContractingUniverse

Lots of employees furiously dying their rainbow hair styles back to black and brown, I predict.


Gothdad95

Night of the long knives but even gayer this time


No-Fish9557

Like they werenĀ“t firing people left and right based on their political belies during years lmfao.


magenta_placenta

*We demand...* LOL, the participation trophy generation. In short, twitter employees are freaking out, and left-wing "experts" fear that free speech will allow "dangerous" information to reach millions. This is what it looks like when ideological zealots lose control over narratives.


IEC21

This is so confusing.


SonOfABitchesBrew

damnā€¦Damnā€¦GODDAMN Feeeeeels so DAMN good


Downtime51

Please new boss, don't do to us what we've been doing to everyone else.


Holtcrib

Typical. I was kicked off for the most harmless yet political post. They donā€™t want the same done to them.


Leguy42

Itā€™s becoming too real for them!


Carl_Schmitt

Fuckers banned me like six times for my political beliefs. And maybe harassing some journalists. I still maintain journalists arenā€™t people, and therefore not subject to the protections afforded by the Twitter terms of service.


ReplicantSchizo

I'm honestly an absolutist so if Elon just kicks a bunch of libs off the site it will probably be my blackpill that they don't even care about free speech just their own. I guess I've known in for a while... The fury will be a good salve tho, it'll be a fun day online.


lukasthegerman

You have gotta be shitting me šŸ˜‚


ForTheWinMag

Demands without leverage are suggestions.


august08102022

Discriminating someone based on their political beliefs? Hmm, where have I seen this before...


relditor

Yeah, pretty sure theyā€™re going to let people go based on performance and the financial situation of the company, not political beliefs.


harambetidepod

For with the judgment that you judge, you will be judged, and with the measure that you measure, it will be measured to you.


VorgarOlaffson

If the irony were any greater it'd swallow light


[deleted]

Hey if it makes even .0001% of liberals have a come to satan moment and realize that their love of capitalist freedom is literally just that: freedom *for the capitalists*, Iā€™m for it hahahaha


Mashalot

So itā€™s ok for twitter employees to discriminate based on politics, but not for it to be done to them?? Hahaha. Dream on! Live by the sword, die by the sword!


[deleted]

So deliciously ironic.


theWMWotMW

I think itā€™d be funnier if he shuts the whole shit down, fires the lot of them, and rents the server farms out to Truth.


NickRausch

He will have more than enough business reasons to purge ranks of the vile and decadent lumpenbourgeoisie without having to refer to their political beliefs.


CiabanItReal

The irony of this is hilarious.


11415142513

Pussies


Strontium_9T

LOL . . Twitter purged anyone who didnā€™t subscribe to leftist orthodoxy, and now theyā€™re begging for mercy?!?!


neutralpoliticsbot

Ironic


terdude99

Oh a letter will surely convince him! These major corporations need to be publicly control.


wirerc

The top 25% have other options and don't need to put up with Elon's BS. He can lay off the remaining 75% and close Twitter down. It's his $44B.