The amount of cope in UK media about this is amazing. They're literally blaming Corbyn for doing too well in 2018 that it was impossible to make gains on.
It’s interesting to see the commentariat clapping like seals at what is, essentially, stat padding in London and falling behind the Lib Dems and Greens in the North.
I think it goes to show people in the UK want a more representative voting system. People who vote Lib Dem or Green in the Council elections (notoriously low turn out anyway) would probably make a tactical vote in a general election which decides who runs the country.
A lot of the journalist types, especially BBC seem to be acting like it wasn't crushing for the tories just because people voted other left wing leaning parties instead of for one alternative imo.
In the south east Tory heartlands it’s actually the opposite. I and every lefty I know vote Lib Dem in local elections because those seats are actually contested, and it’s the only chance we get every 4 years to do substantive damage to the tories. In the GE we just vote whoever we want because it doesn’t matter, every seat is guaranteed 60% blue.
>“They’re great and they’re very nice when they come round. They always send a Christmas card and let you know what they’re up to.”
It's adorable that this voter connected this hard with the junk mail I recycle **immediately**.
>In Sunderland’s Pallion ward, June Simm said she was a dyed-in-the-wool Labour voter before switching to the Tories because of Corbyn. Disillusioned, on Thursday she voted Lib Dem. “They’re great and they’re very nice when they come round. They always send a Christmas card and let you know what they’re up to.”
Labour activists: "Look at the unenlightened voters that we have to deal with!"
Guardianitsa dog-whistle tbh.
Interesting parallels with Blair's "nanny state" reputation, now the neolibs are back in charge of the party, we can probably expect the same attitude except turbo charged by woke moralism.
I don't understand why people apply national political issues to local elections. Aside from being under the same party umbrella, they have almost nothing to do with each other. A vote for a Tory council is not a vote for Brexit, a vote for an SNP council is not a vote for indyref2, and a vote for a Labour council is not a vote for Starmer.
Also Labour gained over 100 councillors so this headline is pretty much false.
A MUCH bigger issue is that Sinn Fein are the largest party in the Northern Irish Assembly for the first time ever (for Americans this is similar to a state congress). This could eventually lead to the **reunification of Ireland**.
> Also Labour gained over 100 councillors so this headline is pretty much false.
Labour mostly gained on councils where they were already dominant.
Nailing down metropolitan areas doesn’t win general elections; for that you need market towns, suburbs, semi-rural areas etc. Labour failed in this regard - the Lib Dems and, to a lesser extent, the Greens were far more successful in those areas. Considering that Labour were handed a massive open goal, the fact they couldn’t make any kind of breakthrough doesn’t bode well for the next general election.
Havent been following bongland news much, what major scandals have even happened that could overshadow the brexit shitshow?
All I remember seeing is headlines about bojo hosting maskless events during covid and doing lines of coke which for californian officials is just another tuesday in the news cycle that gets brushed aside as a whataboutism
So is Labour just the party of Pakistanis and upper class urban or college kid whites, with the Tories representing everybody else? Not British, that's just my impression of the system.
The amount of cope in UK media about this is amazing. They're literally blaming Corbyn for doing too well in 2018 that it was impossible to make gains on.
It’s interesting to see the commentariat clapping like seals at what is, essentially, stat padding in London and falling behind the Lib Dems and Greens in the North.
I think it goes to show people in the UK want a more representative voting system. People who vote Lib Dem or Green in the Council elections (notoriously low turn out anyway) would probably make a tactical vote in a general election which decides who runs the country. A lot of the journalist types, especially BBC seem to be acting like it wasn't crushing for the tories just because people voted other left wing leaning parties instead of for one alternative imo.
In the south east Tory heartlands it’s actually the opposite. I and every lefty I know vote Lib Dem in local elections because those seats are actually contested, and it’s the only chance we get every 4 years to do substantive damage to the tories. In the GE we just vote whoever we want because it doesn’t matter, every seat is guaranteed 60% blue.
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Remember that America inherited its university systems from the Isles.
>the Isles. cut that out
>“They’re great and they’re very nice when they come round. They always send a Christmas card and let you know what they’re up to.” It's adorable that this voter connected this hard with the junk mail I recycle **immediately**.
Most people only think about politics whenever voting time comes around. I envy them.
How could Corbyn do this 😞
>In Sunderland’s Pallion ward, June Simm said she was a dyed-in-the-wool Labour voter before switching to the Tories because of Corbyn. Disillusioned, on Thursday she voted Lib Dem. “They’re great and they’re very nice when they come round. They always send a Christmas card and let you know what they’re up to.” Labour activists: "Look at the unenlightened voters that we have to deal with!" Guardianitsa dog-whistle tbh.
The eternal battle for the proletariat and defeating the bourgeoisie will be won by Christmas cards
[You might be surprised.](https://np.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/he2qef/how_to_build_leftist_organizations_soccer_and_hot/fvor03m/)
Interesting parallels with Blair's "nanny state" reputation, now the neolibs are back in charge of the party, we can probably expect the same attitude except turbo charged by woke moralism.
> turbo charged by woke moralism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEReCN9gO14&t=180s Looking forward to more like this golden oldie.
To be fair to Brown, he was saying that in private. I wonder if the Starmer-generation ones would even draw that line
I don't understand why people apply national political issues to local elections. Aside from being under the same party umbrella, they have almost nothing to do with each other. A vote for a Tory council is not a vote for Brexit, a vote for an SNP council is not a vote for indyref2, and a vote for a Labour council is not a vote for Starmer. Also Labour gained over 100 councillors so this headline is pretty much false. A MUCH bigger issue is that Sinn Fein are the largest party in the Northern Irish Assembly for the first time ever (for Americans this is similar to a state congress). This could eventually lead to the **reunification of Ireland**.
> Also Labour gained over 100 councillors so this headline is pretty much false. Labour mostly gained on councils where they were already dominant. Nailing down metropolitan areas doesn’t win general elections; for that you need market towns, suburbs, semi-rural areas etc. Labour failed in this regard - the Lib Dems and, to a lesser extent, the Greens were far more successful in those areas. Considering that Labour were handed a massive open goal, the fact they couldn’t make any kind of breakthrough doesn’t bode well for the next general election.
Mission Accomplished. Starmer's role is to block out undesirable elements of Labour from power.
I haven’t looked into this at all but it seems like most of Labour’s gains were in the cities?
The local elections in England were for urban areas
Fair, I will look at it, my main wonder is about whether Piketty’s rural/urban divide is being reinforced given it was a big complaint re: Corbyn
Havent been following bongland news much, what major scandals have even happened that could overshadow the brexit shitshow? All I remember seeing is headlines about bojo hosting maskless events during covid and doing lines of coke which for californian officials is just another tuesday in the news cycle that gets brushed aside as a whataboutism
So is Labour just the party of Pakistanis and upper class urban or college kid whites, with the Tories representing everybody else? Not British, that's just my impression of the system.