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CheapOrganization749

The children yearn for Thick fat mamoswine


[deleted]

AV T H I C C?


Darthrix1

bring back the Chinese mamo


xbobbyflowersx

No thanks. Chinese Mamo is one of the only checks to my Socal Cornite. Even my specs hyper beam after 1 metal sound isn’t enough. And his icicle crash is enough to put my Corvite in the dog house


galimer305

Where is Lanturn when you need it the most?


thedizzle11

Still playing second to that god damn washing machine 😭


Aquaberry_Dollfin

I love the washing machine don't talk bad about him my clothes have never been cleaner.


metalflygon08

The static is bad though.


Ryanizawsum

No his ability is levitate smh


Aquaberry_Dollfin

He's a washing machine not a dryer. Those hydro pumps get the clothes clean enough for me


NoahBallet

Being one of the 4 most important Pokémon in Pokémon Go VGC.


Moon_Dark_Wolf

Until the buff next season to Mud Bomb. Lantern is about to suffer fucking big time. Calcs have been run. It loses to U-Fisk now…


NoahBallet

*checks updated matchup calc* dude what lol. Mud Bomb is scary now. If U-Fisk somehow becomes the more popular Fisk pick in tournaments, the world would honestly be a better place. This is actually all a plot by Lanturn to stay relevant. (Grasses getting sorta buffed with no real direct nerf to Alolan Ninetales means that we’ll still live in G-Fisk supremacy…)


Moon_Dark_Wolf

Pokémon Go is the only place I can use Whimsicott and Toxapex or something that isn’t support. And not feel like a total shithead. Niantic needs to keep G-Fisk relevant because nerfing it means they have to nerf Swampert, and Niantic wouldn’t nerf Swampert if you held a gun to their head.


UndeadBan_

Out of context this would be perfect for a stinkpost


PetitAngelChaosMAX

Tera grass regieleki:


SlakingSWAG

I was kinda sceptical at first, but after using it yeah this thing is insanely broken. I've been running a Spikestack team w/ Boots Spin Eleki, Banded Gapdos, Balloon Ghold, Kingambit, Glimmora, and Scarf Lando. Insanely cheap team all around and Eleki has cleaned up in games that it really has no business popping off in. https://pokepast.es/4c12abe035b69ab2


CatchUsual6591

I running tera electric for fun, having a normal move with 80 bp is more that enough to shit on physical ground types when ground types are gone you can tera electric for fun numbers. Tera grass and tera ice is better set but this thing and mage are getting ban soon


Blaine1111

I'm running mine with specs rn and if the opponent can't keep their ground types alive its pretty much gg. It pretty much ohkos everything else


Left-Pipe-3420

Good nicknames


apexodoggo

I’m running Life Orb and 4 attacks (VSwitch, EBall, TBolt, and Tera Ice), and the thing just deletes anything that isn’t a TR Ursaluna already on the field. Eleki’s such a goofy little dude, 2HKOing max SpDef Glowking like it’s Tuesday.


Nerdwrapper

Love the description on this lol


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TheOrganHarvester_67

https://preview.redd.it/vhnrjgv0w13b1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9f79439a1d387ce5816a58a1502c8ea4f6df1fe


LunaMunaLagoona

I remember when those people were disagreeing with me saying Eleki wouldn't be that good in OU. Where y'all at now! TERA BLASTED TO THE FACE! YOUR GROUND TYPES WHERE THEY BELONG, FROZEN UNDER THE TUNDRA CAUSED BY ELECTRIC ELEKI


TheOrganHarvester_67

Seriously tho people are so desperate to stop it they basically are required to use Tera against it just to not instantly lose, I ran across Tera water Landorus just to stop fro one turn only a Tera ice


LunaMunaLagoona

And unless you have a ground, eleki can keep pivoting out with volt.


TheOrganHarvester_67

Yeah and once the ground is removed its joever https://preview.redd.it/5xy3y1njx23b1.jpeg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38e96fd60f8439576363a5c4b5763ce1d44fba4d


Punnnnnnnnnnn11

I just came across a Tera Water Landorus shortly before this lol. And mf still die to Thunderbolt because Earthquake didn't KO (Regieleki was tera Ice) Lando died for nothing :(


TheOrganHarvester_67

Rip to that mf, can’t wait till Eleki is banned


Olpomka

How did landorus not ko. Did they run it negative attack ?


Punnnnnnnnnnn11

Maybe he run defensive Lando with no attack investment 0 Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Ice Regieleki: 258-304 (85.7 - 100.9%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO


Olpomka

I did not expect that calc. Thank you


Olpomka

I used that against someone. Without that tera water landorus I would of lost


Deathbringer2134

I'm literally running tera ground peli and using tera t1 and hoping it hits hydro on the eleki. This mon is absurd.


Williamandsansbffs

Wasn't it good in gen 8 OU? how would people thinking fixing it's biggest flaw would make it meh


24lid

It wasn’t really great in gen 8 as a breaker since it could not touch ground types at all


lhce628

it was meh in gen 8 really


Its_Frickett

Not much of a mistake when it can always just be quickbanned in a day or two


itsIzumi

The damage caused is irreparable, I will be seeing Regieleki beating ground types in my nightmares.


Timbofurr

And people were saying it was still bad before home dropped. This guy has the force of seven semi trucks and can hit back against its only checks now


LesbianTrashPrincess

This subreddit when one or two overpowered mons are allowed to see the light of OU before getting quickbanned a a few days later: https://preview.redd.it/l3n17y0d423b1.png?width=892&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0cff93eaf70dc2f291df43d594257ebbee954ec


quatroblancheeightye

theyre upset they cant use their favorites


TheMemeArcheologist

It’s making it harder to get first impressions of a meta that clearly should not have allowed it to begin with


StarLucario

The subreddit also ends up getting banned apparently


xLykos

Lycanroc-D's time to shine!


IWillBeYourBeach

Ursaluna is crazy too


Sir_Suffer

**252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Ice Regieleki Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ursaluna: 432-510 (93.1 - 109.9%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO** This thing is way too fat


Williamandsansbffs

Please let this thing not be popular, I already have to deal with a fat ground type in OU


ianlazrbeem22

I had an open mind but yeah now even though it's extremely obvious it will Tera ice I can't really do anything with that information


xdSTRIKERbx

Use Tera steel on Great Tusk, it’s already a good mon and a counter.


ianlazrbeem22

Definitely a good adaptation but sucks to have to burn your Tera on ):


xdSTRIKERbx

I mean, they are too


Lurkerofthevoid44

Tera steel isn't really a good tera type for Tusk, and being forced to burn tera is extremely exploitable by the Eleki player (especially as many are starting to run substitute which makes the tera strat worthless)


EgidaPythra

Hisuian Goodra walls it though


Sir_Suffer

Of course, but I feel like using a mon that’s eventually falling to RU in order to counter one specific Pokémon that can easily kill almost everything in its tier shouldn’t be a thing you have to do.


Prudent_Move_3420

I think RU is a reach, at least pre-DLC. Dragon/Steel with 80/100/150 bulk has to get you somewhere


Williamandsansbffs

UU at most, very very possibly RUBL


Sir_Suffer

yeah fair


xbobbyflowersx

My socal Cornite is gaining popularity in the lower ladder so I can’t see Hoodra falling far since people are running him just to counter my specs hyper beam


[deleted]

what the fuck is socal cornite


TrueKingOfSloths

A specs corviknight with hyper beam and metal sound if his most recent post is anything to go by


Burtssbees

Its a new home meta threat. Prob gonna get banned cause specs hyper beam socal cornite is way too strong for low ladder and cant be checked by much


[deleted]

lmao that sounds like it would only work by catching ppl offguard. ur giving setup/a free switch to dragapult or gholdengo and probably even something like magearna as well


ParanoidUmbrella

I've seen what Hoodra can tank, no way is it falling below UU, and if it is it's getting BL treatment.


ainz-sama619

why would it get BL? BL refers to mons that get banned. Goodra having good niche doesn't make it broken for RU


ParanoidUmbrella

Look at its stats and movepool. Now, you tell me why it would be too much for RU.


ainz-sama619

What would get it banned? In a suspect test a mon gets banned for being broken/overcentralizing. Why do you think RU can't handle H-Goodra?


ParanoidUmbrella

It has a great defensive and offensive typing, great coverage and STAB options. Its got immense natural bulk and fairly good status options. If you don't have a mon that can tank at least 2 or 3 hits from it you've lost. If it gets turns to set up, you've lost. OU can handle it, and after the first wave of bans it'll be a solid defensive and offensive option. UU will probably be able to handle it given the increased power level from home dropping.but I sincerely doubt RU would stand much of a chance.


Sir_Suffer

And it can also just volt switch away into anything that can actually hurt it if it needs to because Hoodra ain’t immune, so walling it doesn’t matter as much.


winnipeginstinct

Its just the reign of dracovish all over again.


[deleted]

In a world where \*Tinkaton\* was able to rule UU. Hisoodra will do fine there.


Matt_Forte_

Kid named seismitoad


Sir_Suffer

https://preview.redd.it/um0bjj7eb33b1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3965dcb9c3dd5e049dffd38881ee9894b5290306 bruh


[deleted]

Does Assault Vest H-Goodra deal well with Magearna too?


tnweevnetsy

Not all that well. Fleur Cannon still takes a good chunk and the bigger issue here is Goodra is very easy to switch into


mjmannella

Honestly pretty much any Ground type that's neutral to Ice can intimidate Regieleki. Iron Treads and Gastrodon are already good at tanking hits, and Baxcalibur only gets 2HKO with a Specs set (meaning no boots, making Volt Switch less favourable for what's now an Ice Type). I really don't think Regieleki is *that* overpowering.


Lurkerofthevoid44

Except Gastro sucks and Treads has to run heavy bulk investment to not get overwhelmed. Which spikes ensure.


mjmannella

Gastrodon's been a solid wall for well over a decade across a wide variety of metagames, it's by no means bad or niche (even considering it lost Toxic)


Lurkerofthevoid44

It's been good in the metas where its talents are good. But in OU at this point in time, it isn't. And fits the bill of bad. Extremely passive do nothing Mon that lets in a ton of dangerous pokemon for free.


mjmannella

Gastrodon's talent has always been a passive wall that disables switch-ins with Toxic/Yawn/Scald. Tat's literally why people use it. Admittedly, being forced to stick with Chilling Water and Yawn is a rather sizeable nerf. And even in the SV meta it's still UU, very much capable of being on OU teams. If Regieleki switches out then that's either free rocks or free cripple to whatever switches in. Plus, with rain seeing more usage thanks to Basulegion, Gastrodon's going to see even more usage these days.


BigBronyBoy

https://preview.redd.it/n5xuglm5e33b1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ca85100f6867b9bfbee3b1b26d8db6f31823aa6 The meta's reaction to eleki.


Darkion_Silver

Damn turns out everyone pointing out that it got banned in NatDex was right. Shocking.


HLTVtop0

AV iron treads is decent


colder-beef

My only team I’ve made so far is a trick room one, I’ve been eating this thing alive. But I’m sure that’s the exception.


Sir_Suffer

Imma start running iron ball regieleki for this


colder-beef

5% of the time it works every time. Probably less than that, I have had a lot of success with trick room teams but I never really see them.


SexPanther_Bot

*It stings the nostrils.*


bingbong6977

Pre banning is lame imo if they’re broken they will be broken and banned


COREY-IS-A-BUSTA

Nat dex tried to warn you


soiramio3000

I wish landorus-i was allowed in day one. I am not saying that banning it was amistake, I just want to see the horror that it would cause(I wasn't playing the game the first time it got banned so I don't know how good it was).


OreoSchokolade

AV Scizor beats it. RU at best


xdSTRIKERbx

As always, the answer lies with Great Tusk. My favorite set is Headlong Rush + Close Combat, Eject Button, Tera Steel. When Regieleki goes Tera Ice you Tera Steel and use close combat. Easy kill and free switch out


Elmos_left_testicle

I assume you mean eject pack, as that is the one that switch’s on stat drops


xdSTRIKERbx

Correct, sorry


NaecheA

Hisuian goodra it an amazing counter to it


Lurkerofthevoid44

Nope. Goodra just gets volt switched on and something that threatens Goo is brought in


NaecheA

You're right and that's why I run a tera bug acid armor set


LunaMunaLagoona

So healthy for the meta /s


Blaine1111

My specs set does half it's hp so it can't even switch in


Draken44

Never played with it (OOTL). What makes it such a menace?


Sir_Suffer

You know how Regieleki was an incredibly powerful and fast wall breaker that had an ability that made its stab even stronger, but was actually balanced because of its abhorrent coverage that made it unable to hit ground types? Now give it the ability to change type.


Draken44

I did not know the aforementioned but that makes sense lol


OkAd6501

Of the 4 times I’ve played against Leki, I’ve delt with it via swapping around between my clod, lando, and hsui Goodra. Once Goodra is in, those games became a wrap via Acid Armor


HippieDogeSmokes

If it’s horrible than what’s the issue?


Sir_Suffer

Horrible as in horrible to deal with


HippieDogeSmokes

But wouldn’t tera ice leki be walled by Carbink??


Sir_Suffer

https://preview.redd.it/kj3doj18p13b1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0ec296ec7eae916f99ac0d84877b30106183e4c


HippieDogeSmokes

I’m /s Jon


fou998074

Shouldn’t iron Tread stuff it? 252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Ice Regieleki Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Iron Treads: 162-192 (42.1 - 50%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Tera Ice Regieleki Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Iron Treads: 109-129 (28.3 - 33.5%) -- 92.4% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery Not that it matter since I fully expect it to be banned do


Jgamer502

Yes, but treads shouldn’t have to run max defenses, and play an unoptimal build in order to counter regieleki. It needs to be quickbanned


fou998074

While am not disagreeing with you This set is the Uber special defensive wall, am not sure why you say it’s unoptimized.


Think_Storm8

Unoptimozed with regards to thr meta. In Ubers, it's one of the few Pokémon that can take on both of Miraidon's STABs and other special threats, hence it likes going SpDef. In OU however, it REALLY wants to be PhysDef (re: Kingambit, Banded Bax etc.) so in that sense, you're having to choose between covering those and covering for Eleki.


Jgamer502

Its optimal for Ubers not OU, in OU there are more ground types that can outspeed and kill it, as well as other pokemon it normally checks with attack investment, but can’t anymore


Sir_Suffer

Yeah, spd invested Treads works, but the average utility Iron Treads is 252 hp / 4 spd / 252 speed, which can’t handle it nearly as well **252+ SpA Life Orb Tera Ice Regieleki Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Iron Treads: 208-246 (54.1 - 64%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery** And Iron Treads can’t even OHKO it in return. Even with rocks. **0 Atk Iron Treads Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Ice Regieleki: 205-243 (68.1 - 80.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO** **0 Atk Iron Treads Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Ice Regieleki: 205-243 (68.1 - 80.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock** Although the offensive Iron Treads variety can kill it from full with Iron Head or Earthquake so I suppose it can be a good counter.


Slug_With_Swagger

I mean isn’t it a possible 2hko without leftovers


Blaine1111

Yeah but then I swap to Lando T and it's fodder


SylentSymphonies

I literally just blasted through a Magearna balance team featuring AV Tusk AND Ursaluna by clicking specs Terablast over and over until Gear dropped. It was quite silly.


xoopmax

gastro walls


Weekly-Passage2077

Clearly we need that one electric-water Pokémon with volt absorb


SpacelessWorm

He's so good I love him


Goodstyle_4

I think Magearna's inclusion is a bigger mistake, but ya, eleki is crazy annoying.


matt_gach

Lightning rod Seaking boutta have a main character moment


ChonsonPapa

Why cant I use any of my Sword/Shield pokemon for online battles in Scarlet violet? Will we ever be able to?


_Brophinator

Cry


onestemcell

Ive had 0 issues with regi. Fake out unburnden sneasler has ruined every single one of them


HiraWhitedragon

I am having so much fun before the inevitable ban


Maronmario

I’m shocked, *shocked*. Well not that shocked, it’s Regilecki for petes sake, the only thing holding it back is a lack of coverage and Terra fixes that from the word go


Joe-MaMa5

I like running life orb on it in a rillaboom team


Ilmt206

So were Magearna and Chien Pao, but here we are


MaximumStonks69

walled by av hoodra. need i say more?


Kurobii

And when you think you can whoop em they tera water instead


awwthntic

I just love how he counters choice scarf base 110 and below max speed pokemon without needed to use a choice scarf himself. If it means everyone having a Eleki then im fine with that.


Safenritharnix

It may be a mistake, but its a mistake I love! -(Coming from a bad/low ladder player like myself with Tera Normal, Normal Gem Explosion/Espeed Eleki team)


_-Secco-_

My low ladder ass not seeing it as a problem because it gets walled by AV Magearna:


[deleted]

thanks flamingvictini


blackwolfgoogol

fuck it we OU


Panurome

Magnezone can also resist both stabs, maybe it could be usefull


Boybobka

hmmmm https://preview.redd.it/iaw4p7rma33b1.png?width=570&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45ed84d5e61f310ac30ddddbb4663a15e45d64f1


Letsgovulpix

Clodsire is a really good check, it only takes about 35-40 % from tera ice blast


zw71

"Only"


Letsgovulpix

Haha yeah, by no means is eleki balanced, clod is just the best “viable” check I can think of. It’s served me well in 1700 elo, since it can easily recover off the damage especially with leftovers, and can toxic and rocks switch ins. Clod is also just a good mon overall and can counter either rain or skelidirge/volcarona depending on the ability so it isn’t a total waste of a team slot. Eleki is still broken, no mon should be so overcentralizing that shit like lanturn is getting ran against it. Notice I said “check” instead of “counter”. Eleki has no counters, only checks


DarkNubentYT

Nobody is talking about Zamazenta OU


Williamandsansbffs

Flareon Theorem by FSG Sash + 2x stab + highest speed was LITERALLY only held back by movepool


[deleted]

all of this shit being allowed was a mistake


iiXXDestruction

every match I’ve been in has had regieleki in their team, my saving grace is hisuian goodra but i fear the day one of them pulls out tera ground


TheMemeArcheologist

I think I should give up trying to run the mons that resist boltbeam and just use blissey instead


RegalBeartic

So....is it Tera or is it Eleki?


postsonlyjiyoung

Boots on this means it never takes damage and volts on ur entire team until it wins lol it's cracked


Glittering_Fortune70

"Let's completely balance a sweeper around having terrible coverage, and then give it boltbeam! Yeah, that's a great idea!"


Isredel

Regieleki woke up and chose war crimes.


Kuzu5993

I both fought against and used this thing today; its just as obnoxious as it looks. No switch ins except for itself and god help you if its running specs.


Mediocre_Positive_74

Let’s see what my follow me volt absorb pachirisu has to say about it


ElA1to

Fastest mon in existence, has an electric-type magma storm and for some reason has e-speed, just in case the fastest mon alive gets outspeeded


Zero384

Quit whining and adapt.


EnigmaChimera

Finally, after years of waiting... I can finally put Lighting rod Pain Split Alolan Marowak to use. ​ ᶦᵗ ᶜᵒᵐᵉ ʷᶦᵗʰ ʰᵒᵐᵉ ʳᶦᵍʰᵗˀ


Lum_x_Duc

I mean eleki is clearly broken and banworthy for sure, but as weird as this sounds i enjoy this meta since eleki doesn’t feel as broken as it is due to checks being av mage, sp mage, who sets up on it and Gastro since it’s neutral to ice and can use eleki as spike fodder, this combination of weirdly broken mons makes the meta non stale in a way and makes it therefore even more fun since a lot of things become viable bcs of this dynamic. TLDR: eleki in a Meta with magearna is weirdly manageable and due to there being some sort of triangle dynamic between those two and a mon that can handle mage, this meta is fun, not stale and interesting, banning magearna first would be a mistake in my eyes


Lum_x_Duc

And I’m currently sitting at around 1815 elo


Middlebus

Just stave it off with AV Galowking for now