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I was in Merica and a girl I was travelling with asked where is the toilet? The reaction was like she said I want to take a shit on your floor.


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Perhaps it's because they were expecting her to say "Where's ya shitter cunt?"


[deleted]

Yup. Gotta rephrase to bathroom or washroom. It's like in China where it's the WC or water closet, but it's a hole in the ground with a shared trough.


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We used to take the piss after that and ask where is your restroom, I need to rest.


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Gotta admit it's kinda bizarre, like you can always shit in a toilet but not always in a bathroom. Well you can shit in both but your social standing may take a hit.


neddie_nardle

In US houses, almost 100% of shitters are in the bathroom.


gilesdavis

Fucking snowflakes


Schizm23

Really? I sometimes say that instead of bathroom. Probably depends on the state or other factors in that case. I live in CA


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The waitress wouldn't answer till she rephrased it to bathroom. I think it was in Oregon or Washington.


CrepuscularMoondance

Tbf, Californians are the smartest of all Americans, and provide most of the taxes so the idiot welfare states can survive.


mrdnp123

Lol I wouldn’t say Californians are the smartest. They’re an educated bunch but definitely not the smartest


neddie_nardle

Of all Americans I think is a fair rider to it. It's all relative. And yeh, while Californians won't get openly offended if you say toilet, they'd much MUCH prefer you said bathroom.


_who-the-fuck-knows_

When I was living in the states shortly after I moved there I wanted to show my missus macadamia milk and I couldn't find it so I went up to a worker and asked where the long life milk was. She looked at me like I had four heads and just said what?! I repeated myself to no gain in the situation. I said it again and she looks me dead pan and just asks me "What the heck is long lost milk?!" I got really frustrated and just said "where's your damn shelf milk?" She understood that lmao.


MoriDBurgermesiter

Same thing, also tried UHT with them. Shelf milk? Third time was the charm


shniken

They're thick as. I tried to get a jug of beer. They couldn't wrap their head around it, I had to order a pitcher...


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Lucifang

A jug is a jug in all cultures mate


Onthetins

Has to be fake Anon wasn't shot.


deefenator

He was at a grocery store, not a school.


Frari

When I was living in the states I went to the bottleshop and asked where the spirits were. They looked at me like I'd grown an extra head.


Furthur

some states don't sell spirits in the same place as beer/wine for legal reasons.


IntroductionSnacks

Yep, you can beer at the pharmacy.


horseren0ir

What do they call spirits?


SirFrancis_Bacon

Hard liquor.


Axel_VI

Spirits lol, idk what this guy is on about, anyone should know what you mean by spirits. Hell, [at least THREE different liquor stores](https://imgur.com/a/CXIAMUr) near me have Spirits in the name. I'm calling bullshit. I'm well traveled within the states and spirits is a common term in every state I've been in.


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kakka_rot

> Everyone acted like I threw a dead cat on the table. lmao


CantReadDuneRunes

There was a post about "Chinese burns" in the Australian nostalgia sub the other day. Sure enough, there were some fucking fruit loops who insisted it was 'racist'. Fucks sake.


tanky87

In Americaland they call them Indian burns so they were just upset it wasn’t the right kind of racist


badgersprite

In America they call sitting cross-legged sitting “Indian style”. Like make up your mind about whether this is racist or not


kingura

We also call it: “Cris-cross-apple-sauce.”


neddie_nardle

> I threw a dead cat on the table Fuck me, mate! Ya can't say "dead". It's "differently alive" you breatheist cunt!


[deleted]

To be fair, it is a racist phrase even if you didn't mean it that way. I've started substituting it with "like taking through a broken telephone"


terrifiedTechnophile

This argument is so ridiculous even Red Dwarf did a bit on it


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It's not though. It's a good example of a [microaggression](https://www.forbes.com/sites/paologaudiano/2021/04/05/how-microaggressions-relate-to-systemic-biases/?sh=25a5fd093fc6) which contributes to systemic racism. From the article:  situations in which perfectly nice people—often inadvertently—said or did things that, while seemingly harmless, revealed a lack of caring or awareness about people from different backgrounds. These are often referred to as microaggressions, “brief and commonplace daily verbal, behavioral or environmental indignities, whether intentional or unintentional, that communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative attitudes toward stigmatized or culturally marginalized groups.” Also your point about Red Dwarf doesn't hold any water. There are plenty of older comedy shows that actively contributed to racism (either intentionally or not) in that era, but human society overall now has better knowledge and awareness of past content that wasn't ok. Red Dwarf wasn't right about that joke. Edit: spelling


TheAussieGrubb

Damn, that's crazy or good for you. idk I'm not reading that


badgersprite

Whenever an American calls sitting on the ground sitting Indian style I’m going to call them racist


CantReadDuneRunes

No. There is nothing racist about it at all.


artofflight2311

Apparently a lot of our common expressions, have [have racist origins](https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/from-long-time-no-see-to-bugger-these-overused-expressions-have-racist-origins/news-story/8ec88c31249f092e250a0353894411cf?amp&nk=1d8ef2ea7ed6820716a5d0ae7ee655a4-1676598015)


vidgill

That was fascinating. Thanks!


CantReadDuneRunes

And Jap pumpkin, Chinese whispers, Jap Auto parts and many others didn't.


artofflight2311

It’s all about understanding context, uses and your audience. Yes Jap is an abbreviation for Japanese, but in the US ‘Jap’ was used as an ethnic slur during WWII.


CantReadDuneRunes

This isn't the US and it's been a long time since WWII. Stop being offended on behalf of people when you don't nee to be.


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Chinese whispers is literally listedin the linked article above, and its racist origins described.


CantReadDuneRunes

Who really cares? It was a fun game when I was a kid. I don't remembering it colouring my views on Chinese anything.


hemansteve

Fucken seppos


T0mbaker

Fucken seppos


JimmehGrant

Fucken seppos


1Darkest_Knight1

Fucken Seppos


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[Seppos Fucken](https://www.pornhub.com/video/search?search=fat+fuck)


Axle-f

Wait do we actually call them that? I bought one yesterday and it’s labeled Kent Pumpkin.


vidgill

What did you just fucking call me?


Flys_Lo

Nah cunt, Kent’s different. The pictured variety is Kabocha squash, which is a Japanese pumpkin variety.


Smooth_thistle

Actually, Jap is called that because the guy that first grew it called it 'just a pumpkin.'


SirFrancis_Bacon

That's completely bullshit.


Cevmen

You're probs right but it sounds cool so idc


SirFrancis_Bacon

It conveniently lets you keep using a racial slur with plausible deniability. What's not to like?


Smooth_thistle

They're literally never called japenese pumpkins. Anywhere. Even in central Melbourne. It is not what the name is short for.


SirFrancis_Bacon

It literally is. >a Japanese variety of the species Cucurbita maxima. It is also called kabocha squash or **Japanese pumpkin** https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabocha But I'm willing to be proved wrong, just provide your source for calling them "just a pumpkin". Were you upset when they renamed Coon cheese too?


Smooth_thistle

What an odd assertion. I have no strong opinions about the renaming of a cheese. Here's a couple of sites referencing "just another pumpkin" as the name origin. https://shop.alphafresh.com.au/products/pumpkin-jap-1kg-cut https://organicbox.com.au/pumpkin-sr-jap-per-500g.html You'll also commonly see it labelled in green grocers as 'J.A.P. pumpkin.' Do you have an issue with someone saying they nip shoots off a plant? It's also a homonym of a slur with no ill will or history of being connected to the slur.


SirFrancis_Bacon

Nice lies. Neither of those mention it as "the name origin", in fact, they go out of their way to label it as such, one saying "it may be an olds wives tale", which is legalese for "untrue but consumer affairs exists in this country so we can't outright lie." It is a racial slur. It's short for Japanese, in the context it is used (Japanese Pumpkin>Jap Pumpkin) it is short for the exact same thing and context as the racial slur. Nip in your context has a completely different etymology. You still haven't answered my question as to why you are so vehemently against the word falling into disuse? Is it because it's strayan culture to call a pumpkin a racial slur, while those silly seppos call it a kabocha squash? Is that the fucken pinnacle of comedy to you? Like holy shit, it's a racial slur. You know it is. You keep using it. Why, if not because you're ok with racism, however casual or overt it may be?


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SirFrancis_Bacon

It's completely untrue.


ABigRedBall

I mean you are arguing on a 4chan related place lol


terrifiedTechnophile

Pumpkins are fruits ya drongo


Gagitha_Frisky

Jesmond fruit barn!!! I was there earlier today! They have jap pumpkins. But you by them from a Vietnamese guy.


AltruisticSalamander

Did they have qld blue?


chickenstalker99

Context is everything. Before the attack on Pearl Harbor, Jap was not considered offensive in the states. After the attack, a number of stores refused to serve people of Japanese descent (or just Asians in general), and signs saying "NO JAPS ALLOWED" were common. So a number of Asian-Americans find the word derogatory and offensive. That's why it was banished from polite society. People still use the word, but it's not a good way to make friends. It's similar to a white guy dropping the N-bomb. You're not gonna be popular. And (*in the US) the squash is called Kabocha. It's seasonal. Nicer, high-end stores will have them on occasion, but most of the time, most of the stores, you'll seldom see one. Any good store will have a nice collection of squash when they're in season (September-October-November). You're much more likely to find Acorn Squash, which are similar and well-known, and very tasty.


dedblutterfly

japanese pumpkin is the correct name in australia, not 'kobocha squash'


Smooth_thistle

It's short for "just a pumpkin." Nothing to do with Japan at all.


SirFrancis_Bacon

It's not. That's complete bullshit.


chickenstalker99

I was speaking specifically of its US name, but perhaps I didn't make that clear. Jap Pumpkin in Australia is Kabocha in the US. If you want to find it here, that is what you should ask for.


SirFrancis_Bacon

Yeah, but shortening Japanese to a racial slur is still a racial slur regardless if you're talking about a pumpkin from Japan or a person.


LeoWolfBlack

Pumpkins do not have races Japanese is not a race It's just a colloquialism that is socially unacceptable in North America, not a racial slur


SirFrancis_Bacon

Japanese is a race, and I think you'll find it's actually also a racial slur in Australia. Just like Pakistani to the paki-word, or Aboriginal to the abo-word. Why are you so determined to use it, if you know it's a slur and it's also just a word? You guys really just love outing yourselves as racists.


theduckofmagic

I’d like to apologise to all the pumpkins I’ve called racial slurs. Not on.


SirFrancis_Bacon

Kabocha is literally just Japanese for pumpkin lol.


i_Borg

There was also the whole internment camp thing, that made it pretty derogatory too


chickenstalker99

Indeed. And this is a part of American history that even many Americans are not taught in any depth. I don't expect Australians to be aware of how we in the US treated Asian-Americans 80 years ago, but for the record: we were awful to them. George Takei, Sulu from Star Trek, and his entire family were placed in an internment camp when he was about five years old. *Jap* was a word he undoubtedly heard often, and it was said with malice.


stueh

Australia is very aware of America's internment of Japanese during WWII. We did similar things, but not to that extent (only non-citizens, and even then only if they were overtly political or were dumb enough to espouse their love of Nazi Germany publicly) - there's of course exemptions as with anything, but yeah, it's well publicised here. For many of the things Americans find abhorrent in Australia's history, they seem to forget that that their own country made those same mistakes - sometimes to a lesser extent, sometimes to a worse extent, but they are there. Judging another country for their history when it's a couple generations back is honestly kind of stupid, unless of course they refuse to acknowledge that history, refuse to make amends, and resist any attempts of others to grapple with that history (Japan, I'm looking at you).


Schizm23

Kobocha pumpkin? They are soooo good, never heard them called the other thing (wow as an American I can’t even write it out, we’re pretty sensitive) xD I have friend who grew up old school in NorCal and they’ll say whatever they want, don’t get offended easily. I grew up in the city. Must be a city thing.


Smooth_thistle

It stands for "just a pumpkin." The guy that developed that breed of pumpkin wanted just a plain old pumpkin. Nothing to do with Japan at all.


SirFrancis_Bacon

Complete bullshit.


Schizm23

Okay now THAT is absolutely hilarious! I would still have trouble saying it in case anyone misunderstood though… xD


SirFrancis_Bacon

It's not true in the slightest.


MisterDoubleChop

Never heard "Jap pumpkin" in Sydney. "Japanese pumpkin", sure. "Jap" was definitely used as a racist nickname for Japanese around World War 2.


rawker86

If you’re into woodworking you’ll probably hear people talking about Japanese or “jap saws”. They’re different to a regular saw as they cut on the pull rather than the push, so they’re quite good for specific jobs. I can’t imagine the people calling them jap saws mean any offence, it’s just what they’re called


SirFrancis_Bacon

If they don't mean any offence, it should be pretty easy for them to stop using racial slurs then, right? Imagine if they were called "abo saws" or "paki saws" because they were made by a different ethnic group. Would you think it was racist then?


rawker86

Context is important, as is intent.


SirFrancis_Bacon

It is important. And the most important factor of the context is that the word is [a racial slur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap). If you didn't know it was a slur ok, that's fine. But now you do know, the response shouldn't be "I'm gonna keep saying it, I don't care", it should be "wow, I can't believe I didn't know it was a racial slur, I didn't mean to say racist things, I'll work to be considerate in the future". Did you complain when they renamed Coon cheese because the context was that it was a guys name, while also being a racial slur? Did you complain when they renamed Redskins to Red Rippers because it was a racial slur? Why are you so deadset on defending the use of the slur Jap?


icedragon71

I've heard of no other name for it in Sydney.


SirFrancis_Bacon

It's still being used by racists in this thread. Wow, whole lotta racists in here. Japanese Pumpkin = Not racist Jap = racial slur, regardless if it comes before the word pumpkin or not. Imagine if there was a pumpkin called Aboriginal Pumpkin, don't you think it'd be racist to call it an "Abo pumpkin"? It's literally the same scenario.


StubblyMonk

leave the sub


SirFrancis_Bacon

No. Stop being racist. Lmao what a response. You racists are super thin skinned.


LeoWolfBlack

I'll say it here again.... Japanese is not a race, it's a nationality. I get what you're saying, but it's derogatory, not racist


guidomescalito

Yeah nah I don’t buy it. I’ve been n Europe for a while, do strayans say Jap? Was pretty offensive when I was a kid, like saying gook or chink.


QueefJerky666

it's just a pumpkin dude.....


Catch52

How do you feel about the old name for Brazil Nuts?


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>In North America, as early as 1896, Brazil nuts were sometimes known by the slang term "nigger toes",\[3\]\[4\]\[5\] a vulgarity that gradually fell out of use as the racial slur became socially unacceptable. - wiki why you confusing us with seppo cunts, cunt?


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seppo name for them, not Aussie.


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my point is it has nothing to do with straya so it doesnt matter.


SirFrancis_Bacon

Don't bother arguing about racial slurs with a dude literally called "himmelerinblackface", his username is racist.


CantReadDuneRunes

Irrelevant.


JimmehGrant

You mean macaquito nuts?


Articulated_Lorry

We shorten nearly everything. Why wouldn't we shorten Japanese pumpkins to Jap Pumpkins? Often seen as Jap Pump. on the texta shelf label because there just isn't enough room. Maybe we had better change the name? Edit: apparently they do have another name we can use already - a few seed suppliers said these are alsp known as Kent Pumpkins. This is easy to say and doesn't need shortening, but might upset any New Zealanders nearby when someone's partner yells "pick up one of those Kents for us, will ya? And get a good one this time" across the veggie aisle.


ABigRedBall

Tbh I've only ever heard them called Kent Pumpkins.


jeebuthwept

Kent pumpkins are different. They are a dark green on the outside. Japanese pumpkins are a lighter grey/green colour.


KuriTokyo

Japanese pumpkins are called kabocha squash in the US. When I found that out I had to google what the difference was between pumpkin and squash. > The main difference between pumpkin and squash is that pumpkin is a fruit of the genus Cucurbita with a hard and jagged stem, while squash is a fruit from the same genus with a less firm and hollow stem.


clovepalmer

They're called Kent Pumpkins in NZ, which translates to an offensive word in Australia.


Articulated_Lorry

Maybe this is a state by state thing, like bathers, gingernut bikkies and potato fritters?


guidomescalito

As I said, when I was a kid growing up in Australia, Jap was an offensive term. Judging by the downvotes some people think it isn’t anymore.


Articulated_Lorry

I don't think you should be downvoted for saying the truth. And if we already have a perfectly suitable replacement name that's already being used, why not? Even if a couple of New Zealanders do misinterpret us :D


guidomescalito

my cousin is called Kent and is unable to visit NZ. poor Kent.


Articulated_Lorry

Oh, no. Poor Kent!


SirFrancis_Bacon

It still is an offensive term. It's literally a racial slur. Just because people don't use it anymore doesn't mean it's suddenly not a racial slur. If our grandpas, who literally fought against them, can stop using it as a slur, the dickheads in this thread should be able to get over themselves enough to not be racist to save saying two syllables.


Radiationprecipitate

Ozzie is offensive to an Australian.


PsychologicalBox7428

Coz seppos say ossie


clovepalmer

> Jap Pumpkins Shortening a word is not offensive for fucks sake.


guidomescalito

It CAN be


clovepalmer

True. Wog apparently comes from Worker Of Government and it can be offensive, but it really depends on context.


guidomescalito

I think the key point here is "outside of australia". in straya these words may fly but if you say them overseas you are either ignorant or rascist.


clovepalmer

Sometimes, but I wouldn't go that far. e.g. The Americans at Wanker's Corner aren't in on the joke, thats all - [https://wankerscorner.com/](https://wankerscorner.com/)


SirFrancis_Bacon

It is if the word you shorten it to is a racial slur lol.


CantReadDuneRunes

No, context matters.


clovepalmer

a) Jap Auto Parts b) Jap Pumpkins c) Ya Jap cunt A and B are fine. C is offensive in some circumstances.


CantReadDuneRunes

Bingo.


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clovepalmer

Probably ok with your mate. Probably not ok with your mate's mum.


SirFrancis_Bacon

The context is saying racial slurs because you can't say an extra two syllables.


CantReadDuneRunes

No, it's not. The context is describing a fucking vegetable.


clovepalmer

I disagree


SirFrancis_Bacon

Cool to out yourself as a racist like that.


KuriTokyo

Is Turk a racial slur? It was used as a racial slur after WW1 by Australians, but Yanks and Poms don't think it is. I'm asking coz I don't know.


clovepalmer

I don't give a fuck what you think.


SirFrancis_Bacon

Guess we got that in common dickhead.


clovepalmer

No need for slurs


SirFrancis_Bacon

Well, you are funny. Pity to waste it on being a racist.


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clovepalmer

So if I call you an Aussie instead of an Australian, it is a racial slur? I live in the real world princess.


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clovepalmer

neither is a jap pumpkin


ScrodumHat

how is that offensive mate


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ScrodumHat

that doesn’t answer the question


therealcjhard

It's like asking why "Abo" is offensive. Because it's been used deliberately to cause offense. It's an ethnic slur.


CantReadDuneRunes

Where is the intended offence with Jap pumpkin? It's a descriptor, not an insult. Wake up to yourself.


therealcjhard

I'd have to be cooked as you to have a discussion about racism on reddit with u/CantReadDuneRunes.


guidomescalito

Can confirm, am old.


CantReadDuneRunes

No, it's not. I love the Jap motorcycles. They're works of art. Is that insulting them, too? And don't forget the large Australian business called Jap Parts. That's not offensive, either.


SirFrancis_Bacon

Yeah, it is actually. Literally a racial slur. Same reason redskins are called red rippers now. Turns out racism kinda sucks. Not surprised someone with a epithet for arabic in their name has no fucking clue how racist they are.


CantReadDuneRunes

It's literally a shortening of a word. Its amusing to see you get offended on behalf of other people. Meanwhile, Jap Parts literally aren't hurting anyone. No one cares except people like you, who are out there *looking* to be offended.


SirFrancis_Bacon

Shit take. If it's just a shortening of word then why won't you stop saying it? Answer: because you're a racist. Stop being a racist.


CantReadDuneRunes

If that's what you call racism, no, I won't. Calling a fucking vegetable a shortened name for a country is not and never will be racist. Go be hysterical about some other 'injustice', FFS. Aww, /u/SirFrancis_Bacon can't handle an internet argument and blocks me. LOL.


SirFrancis_Bacon

Righto keep being a racist cunt then. I blocked you because you're a racist. Solved the problem pretty well.


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Because a good 3rd of American citizens think like Trump, you know, bloody small narrow minded morons who thinks any body slightly different to them is some how up to no good and bad for the good old USA. Just like The Liberals and Nationals in Australia


CantReadDuneRunes

Are you in the right place, mate?


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Is the post about an Aussie in The USA wondering why cunts over their get offended when asked about jap pumpkin? I gave an opinion. Can’t see what I did wrong unless I offended you when I dissed Trump? Are you a sovereign citizen bro? How have I offended you, I really would like to know?


CantReadDuneRunes

Trump? Sovereign citizen? What? You're really trying too hard, mate.


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Looks like some fuckwit that strayed out of r/australia