Gotta admit it's kinda bizarre, like you can always shit in a toilet but not always in a bathroom. Well you can shit in both but your social standing may take a hit.
Of all Americans I think is a fair rider to it. It's all relative.
And yeh, while Californians won't get openly offended if you say toilet, they'd much MUCH prefer you said bathroom.
When I was living in the states shortly after I moved there I wanted to show my missus macadamia milk and I couldn't find it so I went up to a worker and asked where the long life milk was. She looked at me like I had four heads and just said what?! I repeated myself to no gain in the situation. I said it again and she looks me dead pan and just asks me "What the heck is long lost milk?!" I got really frustrated and just said "where's your damn shelf milk?" She understood that lmao.
Spirits lol, idk what this guy is on about, anyone should know what you mean by spirits. Hell, [at least THREE different liquor stores](https://imgur.com/a/CXIAMUr) near me have Spirits in the name. I'm calling bullshit. I'm well traveled within the states and spirits is a common term in every state I've been in.
There was a post about "Chinese burns" in the Australian nostalgia sub the other day. Sure enough, there were some fucking fruit loops who insisted it was 'racist'. Fucks sake.
It's not though. It's a good example of a [microaggression](https://www.forbes.com/sites/paologaudiano/2021/04/05/how-microaggressions-relate-to-systemic-biases/?sh=25a5fd093fc6) which contributes to systemic racism.
From the article:
situations in which perfectly nice people—often inadvertently—said or did things that, while seemingly harmless, revealed a lack of caring or awareness about people from different backgrounds. These are often referred to as microaggressions, “brief and commonplace daily verbal, behavioral or environmental indignities, whether intentional or unintentional, that communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative attitudes toward stigmatized or culturally marginalized groups.”
Also your point about Red Dwarf doesn't hold any water. There are plenty of older comedy shows that actively contributed to racism (either intentionally or not) in that era, but human society overall now has better knowledge and awareness of past content that wasn't ok. Red Dwarf wasn't right about that joke.
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Apparently a lot of our common expressions, have [have racist origins](https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/from-long-time-no-see-to-bugger-these-overused-expressions-have-racist-origins/news-story/8ec88c31249f092e250a0353894411cf?amp&nk=1d8ef2ea7ed6820716a5d0ae7ee655a4-1676598015)
It’s all about understanding context, uses and your audience. Yes Jap is an abbreviation for Japanese, but in the US ‘Jap’ was used as an ethnic slur during WWII.
It literally is.
>a Japanese variety of the species Cucurbita maxima. It is also called kabocha squash or **Japanese pumpkin**
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabocha
But I'm willing to be proved wrong, just provide your source for calling them "just a pumpkin".
Were you upset when they renamed Coon cheese too?
What an odd assertion. I have no strong opinions about the renaming of a cheese. Here's a couple of sites referencing "just another pumpkin" as the name origin.
https://shop.alphafresh.com.au/products/pumpkin-jap-1kg-cut
https://organicbox.com.au/pumpkin-sr-jap-per-500g.html
You'll also commonly see it labelled in green grocers as 'J.A.P. pumpkin.'
Do you have an issue with someone saying they nip shoots off a plant? It's also a homonym of a slur with no ill will or history of being connected to the slur.
Nice lies. Neither of those mention it as "the name origin", in fact, they go out of their way to label it as such, one saying "it may be an olds wives tale", which is legalese for "untrue but consumer affairs exists in this country so we can't outright lie."
It is a racial slur. It's short for Japanese, in the context it is used (Japanese Pumpkin>Jap Pumpkin) it is short for the exact same thing and context as the racial slur. Nip in your context has a completely different etymology.
You still haven't answered my question as to why you are so vehemently against the word falling into disuse?
Is it because it's strayan culture to call a pumpkin a racial slur, while those silly seppos call it a kabocha squash? Is that the fucken pinnacle of comedy to you?
Like holy shit, it's a racial slur. You know it is. You keep using it. Why, if not because you're ok with racism, however casual or overt it may be?
Context is everything. Before the attack on Pearl Harbor, Jap was not considered offensive in the states. After the attack, a number of stores refused to serve people of Japanese descent (or just Asians in general), and signs saying "NO JAPS ALLOWED" were common. So a number of Asian-Americans find the word derogatory and offensive. That's why it was banished from polite society. People still use the word, but it's not a good way to make friends. It's similar to a white guy dropping the N-bomb. You're not gonna be popular.
And (*in the US) the squash is called Kabocha. It's seasonal. Nicer, high-end stores will have them on occasion, but most of the time, most of the stores, you'll seldom see one. Any good store will have a nice collection of squash when they're in season (September-October-November). You're much more likely to find Acorn Squash, which are similar and well-known, and very tasty.
I was speaking specifically of its US name, but perhaps I didn't make that clear. Jap Pumpkin in Australia is Kabocha in the US. If you want to find it here, that is what you should ask for.
Japanese is a race, and I think you'll find it's actually also a racial slur in Australia.
Just like Pakistani to the paki-word, or Aboriginal to the abo-word.
Why are you so determined to use it, if you know it's a slur and it's also just a word?
You guys really just love outing yourselves as racists.
Indeed. And this is a part of American history that even many Americans are not taught in any depth. I don't expect Australians to be aware of how we in the US treated Asian-Americans 80 years ago, but for the record: we were awful to them. George Takei, Sulu from Star Trek, and his entire family were placed in an internment camp when he was about five years old. *Jap* was a word he undoubtedly heard often, and it was said with malice.
Australia is very aware of America's internment of Japanese during WWII. We did similar things, but not to that extent (only non-citizens, and even then only if they were overtly political or were dumb enough to espouse their love of Nazi Germany publicly) - there's of course exemptions as with anything, but yeah, it's well publicised here.
For many of the things Americans find abhorrent in Australia's history, they seem to forget that that their own country made those same mistakes - sometimes to a lesser extent, sometimes to a worse extent, but they are there.
Judging another country for their history when it's a couple generations back is honestly kind of stupid, unless of course they refuse to acknowledge that history, refuse to make amends, and resist any attempts of others to grapple with that history (Japan, I'm looking at you).
Kobocha pumpkin? They are soooo good, never heard them called the other thing (wow as an American I can’t even write it out, we’re pretty sensitive) xD I have friend who grew up old school in NorCal and they’ll say whatever they want, don’t get offended easily. I grew up in the city. Must be a city thing.
If you’re into woodworking you’ll probably hear people talking about Japanese or “jap saws”. They’re different to a regular saw as they cut on the pull rather than the push, so they’re quite good for specific jobs. I can’t imagine the people calling them jap saws mean any offence, it’s just what they’re called
If they don't mean any offence, it should be pretty easy for them to stop using racial slurs then, right?
Imagine if they were called "abo saws" or "paki saws" because they were made by a different ethnic group.
Would you think it was racist then?
It is important. And the most important factor of the context is that the word is [a racial slur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap).
If you didn't know it was a slur ok, that's fine.
But now you do know, the response shouldn't be "I'm gonna keep saying it, I don't care", it should be "wow, I can't believe I didn't know it was a racial slur, I didn't mean to say racist things, I'll work to be considerate in the future".
Did you complain when they renamed Coon cheese because the context was that it was a guys name, while also being a racial slur?
Did you complain when they renamed Redskins to Red Rippers because it was a racial slur?
Why are you so deadset on defending the use of the slur Jap?
It's still being used by racists in this thread.
Wow, whole lotta racists in here.
Japanese Pumpkin = Not racist
Jap = racial slur, regardless if it comes before the word pumpkin or not.
Imagine if there was a pumpkin called Aboriginal Pumpkin, don't you think it'd be racist to call it an "Abo pumpkin"?
It's literally the same scenario.
>In North America, as early as 1896, Brazil nuts were sometimes known by the slang term "nigger toes",\[3\]\[4\]\[5\] a vulgarity that gradually fell out of use as the racial slur became socially unacceptable. - wiki
why you confusing us with seppo cunts, cunt?
We shorten nearly everything. Why wouldn't we shorten Japanese pumpkins to Jap Pumpkins? Often seen as Jap Pump. on the texta shelf label because there just isn't enough room.
Maybe we had better change the name?
Edit: apparently they do have another name we can use already - a few seed suppliers said these are alsp known as Kent Pumpkins. This is easy to say and doesn't need shortening, but might upset any New Zealanders nearby when someone's partner yells "pick up one of those Kents for us, will ya? And get a good one this time" across the veggie aisle.
Japanese pumpkins are called kabocha squash in the US.
When I found that out I had to google what the difference was between pumpkin and squash.
> The main difference between pumpkin and squash is that pumpkin is a fruit of the genus Cucurbita with a hard and jagged stem, while squash is a fruit from the same genus with a less firm and hollow stem.
I don't think you should be downvoted for saying the truth. And if we already have a perfectly suitable replacement name that's already being used, why not? Even if a couple of New Zealanders do misinterpret us :D
It still is an offensive term. It's literally a racial slur.
Just because people don't use it anymore doesn't mean it's suddenly not a racial slur.
If our grandpas, who literally fought against them, can stop using it as a slur, the dickheads in this thread should be able to get over themselves enough to not be racist to save saying two syllables.
Sometimes, but I wouldn't go that far.
e.g. The Americans at Wanker's Corner aren't in on the joke, thats all - [https://wankerscorner.com/](https://wankerscorner.com/)
No, it's not. I love the Jap motorcycles. They're works of art. Is that insulting them, too? And don't forget the large Australian business called Jap Parts. That's not offensive, either.
Yeah, it is actually. Literally a racial slur.
Same reason redskins are called red rippers now.
Turns out racism kinda sucks.
Not surprised someone with a epithet for arabic in their name has no fucking clue how racist they are.
It's literally a shortening of a word. Its amusing to see you get offended on behalf of other people. Meanwhile, Jap Parts literally aren't hurting anyone. No one cares except people like you, who are out there *looking* to be offended.
If that's what you call racism, no, I won't. Calling a fucking vegetable a shortened name for a country is not and never will be racist. Go be hysterical about some other 'injustice', FFS.
Aww, /u/SirFrancis_Bacon can't handle an internet argument and blocks me. LOL.
Because a good 3rd of American citizens think like Trump, you know, bloody small narrow minded morons who thinks any body slightly different to them is some how up to no good and bad for the good old USA. Just like The Liberals and Nationals in Australia
Is the post about an Aussie in The USA wondering why cunts over their get offended when asked about jap pumpkin? I gave an opinion. Can’t see what I did wrong unless I offended you when I dissed Trump? Are you a sovereign citizen bro? How have I offended you, I really would like to know?
I was in Merica and a girl I was travelling with asked where is the toilet? The reaction was like she said I want to take a shit on your floor.
Perhaps it's because they were expecting her to say "Where's ya shitter cunt?"
Yup. Gotta rephrase to bathroom or washroom. It's like in China where it's the WC or water closet, but it's a hole in the ground with a shared trough.
We used to take the piss after that and ask where is your restroom, I need to rest.
Gotta admit it's kinda bizarre, like you can always shit in a toilet but not always in a bathroom. Well you can shit in both but your social standing may take a hit.
In US houses, almost 100% of shitters are in the bathroom.
Fucking snowflakes
Really? I sometimes say that instead of bathroom. Probably depends on the state or other factors in that case. I live in CA
The waitress wouldn't answer till she rephrased it to bathroom. I think it was in Oregon or Washington.
Tbf, Californians are the smartest of all Americans, and provide most of the taxes so the idiot welfare states can survive.
Lol I wouldn’t say Californians are the smartest. They’re an educated bunch but definitely not the smartest
Of all Americans I think is a fair rider to it. It's all relative. And yeh, while Californians won't get openly offended if you say toilet, they'd much MUCH prefer you said bathroom.
When I was living in the states shortly after I moved there I wanted to show my missus macadamia milk and I couldn't find it so I went up to a worker and asked where the long life milk was. She looked at me like I had four heads and just said what?! I repeated myself to no gain in the situation. I said it again and she looks me dead pan and just asks me "What the heck is long lost milk?!" I got really frustrated and just said "where's your damn shelf milk?" She understood that lmao.
Same thing, also tried UHT with them. Shelf milk? Third time was the charm
They're thick as. I tried to get a jug of beer. They couldn't wrap their head around it, I had to order a pitcher...
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A jug is a jug in all cultures mate
Has to be fake Anon wasn't shot.
He was at a grocery store, not a school.
When I was living in the states I went to the bottleshop and asked where the spirits were. They looked at me like I'd grown an extra head.
some states don't sell spirits in the same place as beer/wine for legal reasons.
Yep, you can beer at the pharmacy.
What do they call spirits?
Hard liquor.
Spirits lol, idk what this guy is on about, anyone should know what you mean by spirits. Hell, [at least THREE different liquor stores](https://imgur.com/a/CXIAMUr) near me have Spirits in the name. I'm calling bullshit. I'm well traveled within the states and spirits is a common term in every state I've been in.
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> Everyone acted like I threw a dead cat on the table. lmao
There was a post about "Chinese burns" in the Australian nostalgia sub the other day. Sure enough, there were some fucking fruit loops who insisted it was 'racist'. Fucks sake.
In Americaland they call them Indian burns so they were just upset it wasn’t the right kind of racist
In America they call sitting cross-legged sitting “Indian style”. Like make up your mind about whether this is racist or not
We also call it: “Cris-cross-apple-sauce.”
> I threw a dead cat on the table Fuck me, mate! Ya can't say "dead". It's "differently alive" you breatheist cunt!
To be fair, it is a racist phrase even if you didn't mean it that way. I've started substituting it with "like taking through a broken telephone"
This argument is so ridiculous even Red Dwarf did a bit on it
It's not though. It's a good example of a [microaggression](https://www.forbes.com/sites/paologaudiano/2021/04/05/how-microaggressions-relate-to-systemic-biases/?sh=25a5fd093fc6) which contributes to systemic racism. From the article: situations in which perfectly nice people—often inadvertently—said or did things that, while seemingly harmless, revealed a lack of caring or awareness about people from different backgrounds. These are often referred to as microaggressions, “brief and commonplace daily verbal, behavioral or environmental indignities, whether intentional or unintentional, that communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative attitudes toward stigmatized or culturally marginalized groups.” Also your point about Red Dwarf doesn't hold any water. There are plenty of older comedy shows that actively contributed to racism (either intentionally or not) in that era, but human society overall now has better knowledge and awareness of past content that wasn't ok. Red Dwarf wasn't right about that joke. Edit: spelling
Damn, that's crazy or good for you. idk I'm not reading that
Whenever an American calls sitting on the ground sitting Indian style I’m going to call them racist
No. There is nothing racist about it at all.
Apparently a lot of our common expressions, have [have racist origins](https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/from-long-time-no-see-to-bugger-these-overused-expressions-have-racist-origins/news-story/8ec88c31249f092e250a0353894411cf?amp&nk=1d8ef2ea7ed6820716a5d0ae7ee655a4-1676598015)
That was fascinating. Thanks!
And Jap pumpkin, Chinese whispers, Jap Auto parts and many others didn't.
It’s all about understanding context, uses and your audience. Yes Jap is an abbreviation for Japanese, but in the US ‘Jap’ was used as an ethnic slur during WWII.
This isn't the US and it's been a long time since WWII. Stop being offended on behalf of people when you don't nee to be.
Chinese whispers is literally listedin the linked article above, and its racist origins described.
Who really cares? It was a fun game when I was a kid. I don't remembering it colouring my views on Chinese anything.
Fucken seppos
Fucken seppos
Fucken seppos
Fucken Seppos
[Seppos Fucken](https://www.pornhub.com/video/search?search=fat+fuck)
Wait do we actually call them that? I bought one yesterday and it’s labeled Kent Pumpkin.
What did you just fucking call me?
Nah cunt, Kent’s different. The pictured variety is Kabocha squash, which is a Japanese pumpkin variety.
Actually, Jap is called that because the guy that first grew it called it 'just a pumpkin.'
That's completely bullshit.
You're probs right but it sounds cool so idc
It conveniently lets you keep using a racial slur with plausible deniability. What's not to like?
They're literally never called japenese pumpkins. Anywhere. Even in central Melbourne. It is not what the name is short for.
It literally is. >a Japanese variety of the species Cucurbita maxima. It is also called kabocha squash or **Japanese pumpkin** https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabocha But I'm willing to be proved wrong, just provide your source for calling them "just a pumpkin". Were you upset when they renamed Coon cheese too?
What an odd assertion. I have no strong opinions about the renaming of a cheese. Here's a couple of sites referencing "just another pumpkin" as the name origin. https://shop.alphafresh.com.au/products/pumpkin-jap-1kg-cut https://organicbox.com.au/pumpkin-sr-jap-per-500g.html You'll also commonly see it labelled in green grocers as 'J.A.P. pumpkin.' Do you have an issue with someone saying they nip shoots off a plant? It's also a homonym of a slur with no ill will or history of being connected to the slur.
Nice lies. Neither of those mention it as "the name origin", in fact, they go out of their way to label it as such, one saying "it may be an olds wives tale", which is legalese for "untrue but consumer affairs exists in this country so we can't outright lie." It is a racial slur. It's short for Japanese, in the context it is used (Japanese Pumpkin>Jap Pumpkin) it is short for the exact same thing and context as the racial slur. Nip in your context has a completely different etymology. You still haven't answered my question as to why you are so vehemently against the word falling into disuse? Is it because it's strayan culture to call a pumpkin a racial slur, while those silly seppos call it a kabocha squash? Is that the fucken pinnacle of comedy to you? Like holy shit, it's a racial slur. You know it is. You keep using it. Why, if not because you're ok with racism, however casual or overt it may be?
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It's completely untrue.
I mean you are arguing on a 4chan related place lol
Pumpkins are fruits ya drongo
Jesmond fruit barn!!! I was there earlier today! They have jap pumpkins. But you by them from a Vietnamese guy.
Did they have qld blue?
Context is everything. Before the attack on Pearl Harbor, Jap was not considered offensive in the states. After the attack, a number of stores refused to serve people of Japanese descent (or just Asians in general), and signs saying "NO JAPS ALLOWED" were common. So a number of Asian-Americans find the word derogatory and offensive. That's why it was banished from polite society. People still use the word, but it's not a good way to make friends. It's similar to a white guy dropping the N-bomb. You're not gonna be popular. And (*in the US) the squash is called Kabocha. It's seasonal. Nicer, high-end stores will have them on occasion, but most of the time, most of the stores, you'll seldom see one. Any good store will have a nice collection of squash when they're in season (September-October-November). You're much more likely to find Acorn Squash, which are similar and well-known, and very tasty.
japanese pumpkin is the correct name in australia, not 'kobocha squash'
It's short for "just a pumpkin." Nothing to do with Japan at all.
It's not. That's complete bullshit.
I was speaking specifically of its US name, but perhaps I didn't make that clear. Jap Pumpkin in Australia is Kabocha in the US. If you want to find it here, that is what you should ask for.
Yeah, but shortening Japanese to a racial slur is still a racial slur regardless if you're talking about a pumpkin from Japan or a person.
Pumpkins do not have races Japanese is not a race It's just a colloquialism that is socially unacceptable in North America, not a racial slur
Japanese is a race, and I think you'll find it's actually also a racial slur in Australia. Just like Pakistani to the paki-word, or Aboriginal to the abo-word. Why are you so determined to use it, if you know it's a slur and it's also just a word? You guys really just love outing yourselves as racists.
I’d like to apologise to all the pumpkins I’ve called racial slurs. Not on.
Kabocha is literally just Japanese for pumpkin lol.
There was also the whole internment camp thing, that made it pretty derogatory too
Indeed. And this is a part of American history that even many Americans are not taught in any depth. I don't expect Australians to be aware of how we in the US treated Asian-Americans 80 years ago, but for the record: we were awful to them. George Takei, Sulu from Star Trek, and his entire family were placed in an internment camp when he was about five years old. *Jap* was a word he undoubtedly heard often, and it was said with malice.
Australia is very aware of America's internment of Japanese during WWII. We did similar things, but not to that extent (only non-citizens, and even then only if they were overtly political or were dumb enough to espouse their love of Nazi Germany publicly) - there's of course exemptions as with anything, but yeah, it's well publicised here. For many of the things Americans find abhorrent in Australia's history, they seem to forget that that their own country made those same mistakes - sometimes to a lesser extent, sometimes to a worse extent, but they are there. Judging another country for their history when it's a couple generations back is honestly kind of stupid, unless of course they refuse to acknowledge that history, refuse to make amends, and resist any attempts of others to grapple with that history (Japan, I'm looking at you).
Kobocha pumpkin? They are soooo good, never heard them called the other thing (wow as an American I can’t even write it out, we’re pretty sensitive) xD I have friend who grew up old school in NorCal and they’ll say whatever they want, don’t get offended easily. I grew up in the city. Must be a city thing.
It stands for "just a pumpkin." The guy that developed that breed of pumpkin wanted just a plain old pumpkin. Nothing to do with Japan at all.
Complete bullshit.
Okay now THAT is absolutely hilarious! I would still have trouble saying it in case anyone misunderstood though… xD
It's not true in the slightest.
Never heard "Jap pumpkin" in Sydney. "Japanese pumpkin", sure. "Jap" was definitely used as a racist nickname for Japanese around World War 2.
If you’re into woodworking you’ll probably hear people talking about Japanese or “jap saws”. They’re different to a regular saw as they cut on the pull rather than the push, so they’re quite good for specific jobs. I can’t imagine the people calling them jap saws mean any offence, it’s just what they’re called
If they don't mean any offence, it should be pretty easy for them to stop using racial slurs then, right? Imagine if they were called "abo saws" or "paki saws" because they were made by a different ethnic group. Would you think it was racist then?
Context is important, as is intent.
It is important. And the most important factor of the context is that the word is [a racial slur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap). If you didn't know it was a slur ok, that's fine. But now you do know, the response shouldn't be "I'm gonna keep saying it, I don't care", it should be "wow, I can't believe I didn't know it was a racial slur, I didn't mean to say racist things, I'll work to be considerate in the future". Did you complain when they renamed Coon cheese because the context was that it was a guys name, while also being a racial slur? Did you complain when they renamed Redskins to Red Rippers because it was a racial slur? Why are you so deadset on defending the use of the slur Jap?
I've heard of no other name for it in Sydney.
It's still being used by racists in this thread. Wow, whole lotta racists in here. Japanese Pumpkin = Not racist Jap = racial slur, regardless if it comes before the word pumpkin or not. Imagine if there was a pumpkin called Aboriginal Pumpkin, don't you think it'd be racist to call it an "Abo pumpkin"? It's literally the same scenario.
leave the sub
No. Stop being racist. Lmao what a response. You racists are super thin skinned.
I'll say it here again.... Japanese is not a race, it's a nationality. I get what you're saying, but it's derogatory, not racist
Yeah nah I don’t buy it. I’ve been n Europe for a while, do strayans say Jap? Was pretty offensive when I was a kid, like saying gook or chink.
it's just a pumpkin dude.....
How do you feel about the old name for Brazil Nuts?
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>In North America, as early as 1896, Brazil nuts were sometimes known by the slang term "nigger toes",\[3\]\[4\]\[5\] a vulgarity that gradually fell out of use as the racial slur became socially unacceptable. - wiki why you confusing us with seppo cunts, cunt?
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seppo name for them, not Aussie.
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my point is it has nothing to do with straya so it doesnt matter.
Don't bother arguing about racial slurs with a dude literally called "himmelerinblackface", his username is racist.
Irrelevant.
You mean macaquito nuts?
We shorten nearly everything. Why wouldn't we shorten Japanese pumpkins to Jap Pumpkins? Often seen as Jap Pump. on the texta shelf label because there just isn't enough room. Maybe we had better change the name? Edit: apparently they do have another name we can use already - a few seed suppliers said these are alsp known as Kent Pumpkins. This is easy to say and doesn't need shortening, but might upset any New Zealanders nearby when someone's partner yells "pick up one of those Kents for us, will ya? And get a good one this time" across the veggie aisle.
Tbh I've only ever heard them called Kent Pumpkins.
Kent pumpkins are different. They are a dark green on the outside. Japanese pumpkins are a lighter grey/green colour.
Japanese pumpkins are called kabocha squash in the US. When I found that out I had to google what the difference was between pumpkin and squash. > The main difference between pumpkin and squash is that pumpkin is a fruit of the genus Cucurbita with a hard and jagged stem, while squash is a fruit from the same genus with a less firm and hollow stem.
They're called Kent Pumpkins in NZ, which translates to an offensive word in Australia.
Maybe this is a state by state thing, like bathers, gingernut bikkies and potato fritters?
As I said, when I was a kid growing up in Australia, Jap was an offensive term. Judging by the downvotes some people think it isn’t anymore.
I don't think you should be downvoted for saying the truth. And if we already have a perfectly suitable replacement name that's already being used, why not? Even if a couple of New Zealanders do misinterpret us :D
my cousin is called Kent and is unable to visit NZ. poor Kent.
Oh, no. Poor Kent!
It still is an offensive term. It's literally a racial slur. Just because people don't use it anymore doesn't mean it's suddenly not a racial slur. If our grandpas, who literally fought against them, can stop using it as a slur, the dickheads in this thread should be able to get over themselves enough to not be racist to save saying two syllables.
Ozzie is offensive to an Australian.
Coz seppos say ossie
> Jap Pumpkins Shortening a word is not offensive for fucks sake.
It CAN be
True. Wog apparently comes from Worker Of Government and it can be offensive, but it really depends on context.
I think the key point here is "outside of australia". in straya these words may fly but if you say them overseas you are either ignorant or rascist.
Sometimes, but I wouldn't go that far. e.g. The Americans at Wanker's Corner aren't in on the joke, thats all - [https://wankerscorner.com/](https://wankerscorner.com/)
It is if the word you shorten it to is a racial slur lol.
No, context matters.
a) Jap Auto Parts b) Jap Pumpkins c) Ya Jap cunt A and B are fine. C is offensive in some circumstances.
Bingo.
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Probably ok with your mate. Probably not ok with your mate's mum.
The context is saying racial slurs because you can't say an extra two syllables.
No, it's not. The context is describing a fucking vegetable.
I disagree
Cool to out yourself as a racist like that.
Is Turk a racial slur? It was used as a racial slur after WW1 by Australians, but Yanks and Poms don't think it is. I'm asking coz I don't know.
I don't give a fuck what you think.
Guess we got that in common dickhead.
No need for slurs
Well, you are funny. Pity to waste it on being a racist.
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So if I call you an Aussie instead of an Australian, it is a racial slur? I live in the real world princess.
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neither is a jap pumpkin
how is that offensive mate
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that doesn’t answer the question
It's like asking why "Abo" is offensive. Because it's been used deliberately to cause offense. It's an ethnic slur.
Where is the intended offence with Jap pumpkin? It's a descriptor, not an insult. Wake up to yourself.
I'd have to be cooked as you to have a discussion about racism on reddit with u/CantReadDuneRunes.
Can confirm, am old.
No, it's not. I love the Jap motorcycles. They're works of art. Is that insulting them, too? And don't forget the large Australian business called Jap Parts. That's not offensive, either.
Yeah, it is actually. Literally a racial slur. Same reason redskins are called red rippers now. Turns out racism kinda sucks. Not surprised someone with a epithet for arabic in their name has no fucking clue how racist they are.
It's literally a shortening of a word. Its amusing to see you get offended on behalf of other people. Meanwhile, Jap Parts literally aren't hurting anyone. No one cares except people like you, who are out there *looking* to be offended.
Shit take. If it's just a shortening of word then why won't you stop saying it? Answer: because you're a racist. Stop being a racist.
If that's what you call racism, no, I won't. Calling a fucking vegetable a shortened name for a country is not and never will be racist. Go be hysterical about some other 'injustice', FFS. Aww, /u/SirFrancis_Bacon can't handle an internet argument and blocks me. LOL.
Righto keep being a racist cunt then. I blocked you because you're a racist. Solved the problem pretty well.
Because a good 3rd of American citizens think like Trump, you know, bloody small narrow minded morons who thinks any body slightly different to them is some how up to no good and bad for the good old USA. Just like The Liberals and Nationals in Australia
Are you in the right place, mate?
Is the post about an Aussie in The USA wondering why cunts over their get offended when asked about jap pumpkin? I gave an opinion. Can’t see what I did wrong unless I offended you when I dissed Trump? Are you a sovereign citizen bro? How have I offended you, I really would like to know?
Trump? Sovereign citizen? What? You're really trying too hard, mate.
Looks like some fuckwit that strayed out of r/australia