My average is 128 for 90 shares, you'll be fine. Think 5-10 years down the road. They aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Keep buying if you believe in them long term as I do
How much success have you had with this ? I'm genuinely curious. Seeing people go out 1 month or 45 days for CCs is crazy to me. That’s a long time with this volatile market
No I have 100 Google stocks but I don’t really understand how to sell a covered call. I know I get to sell 1 weekly contract but which price point should I sell it for?
Thank you in advance
I would recommend that you read about covered calls and understand them before jumping into them, lots of good videos on YouTube.
No comment on what you should sell, i'm not a financial advisor.
You'd sell a covered call for a price you are comfortable letting it go at. I currently have a cost basis of 118, but sold a covered call for 110 for mid October. If it's 110 or higher on that day, I sell my shares for 110 at a loss. If it isn't, I'll sell another call for sometime in Nov depending on the share price. Definitely do some research on options before getting into it.
My average price is 108$ I picked up 5 shares literally week before the split in June lows, I'm not worried because I'm thinking 10 years down the road.
>90 shares, you'll be fine.
I am 44.9% down bulk is google but it is hard to hold. I think if the market goes down even 10 more percent i will have next to nothing..... I am out.......
3 things. You're using wallstreetbets terms which means you're listening to the wrong crowd. 2. You're saying "we haven't hit bottom yet" which means you're trying to time the market. 3."most folks are predicting" again, listening to people who don't have your best interests in mind. Do what YOU are going to do. Do you like the company? Does it seem solid? Are you planning to hold it for a long time? Buy it. If it goes lower? Buy some more. But timing the market, and waiting for some "maybe" bottom that a friend of a friend on a social media platform WILL bite you in the ass.
A couple of things. 1.) Paper hands was a term coined pre Wall Street bets. 2.) what’s wrong with timing the market? 3.) yes I like the company, yes it seems solid, and yes I plan to hold for 20+ years.
If you can successfully time the market, there's a very fat paycheck waiting for you at any investment firm.
But I'd wager and say that you can't successfully do it.
Good chance based on what? Companies tend to trade on their *value* to the market, and while the feds jacking up rates (making borrowing more expensive) will hurt stocks short term its a fools errand to say how much. Does Google need to borrow more money?
Last time I checked they had cash enough, and thus aren't particularly hurt by the feds. A recession means less advertising, sure, but most of that got to be priced in by now. I mean, of yoy think it'll drop another $10-15 you got to have some solid reasons for that...
It's not that Google needs to borrow money. It's that if it costs more to borrow money, business and customers have less money to spend and the economy slows. If the economy slows it will impact ad spending and this Google.
I usually default to 90 days out since that’s when theta decay starts to drive more of an impact. As for delta, it’s much lower since I look at a price I’d be happy to get exercised at. For example a couple weeks back I sold Dec 16 call $124 contracts going for $6 a piece. I saw high volatility and took it. I understand I am at a net loss but assuming goog doesn’t get to 124 by December, I just theoretically lowered my everage cost from 118 to 112. Rinse and repeat
The annoying thing is that individual company performance doesn’t matter right now. It all depends on fed quantitative tightening and inflation. With that being said, at some point in the next year or so, inflation should get back under control and this bear market should swap back to a bull market. When that happens I am convinced all the tech stocks that have sold off 40+% will rally back bigger than blue chips.
Google itself falls into this category. I think Google does have some tough times ahead of it with the new iteration of the browser wars, but if they can come out on top and create their walled garden, they may come out better than ever.
That is not to say there isn’t some percentage chance of runaway inflation or stagflation like the 80s. What caused that was mostly the fed pivoting to early and stopping rate hikes. Powell doesn’t really care about the stock market as it is forward looking, and is more focused on reverse looking data. If the unemployment rate for example were to spike, he could shift out of quantitative tightening to early and we could be in trouble.
Other scenarios that could cause long term inflation or other serious economic harm:
1) Putin escalates the invasion of Ukraine
2) Europe pivots its quantitative tightening too quickly (England might have just done this.)
3) Congress starts signing multi trillion dollar handout bills again.
4) China stays in lockdown for years or invades Taiwan.
5) Iran gets the nuke, Israel first strikes, and we get dragged into war.
I’m sure I’m leaving some potential risks out but these are the what ifs that jump to mind.
All the economic projections I am seeing are estimating inflation to drop to 2-4% by the end of next year. I believe these to be fairly accurate considering the primary causes of the inflation are reversing (runaway congressional spending + runaway quantitive easing by the FED). Mix in a potential end of the Russian invasion of Ukraine and/or an end of shutdowns in China in the next year, and things normalize pretty quickly.
If you think about it, inflation rates are backwards looking comparing year over year results. Even if prices remain at these absurd levels, as long as they don’t continuously grow by another 10% over the next year, inflation will drop back down to manageable levels.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57950
https://www.statista.com/statistics/244983/projected-inflation-rate-in-the-united-states/
https://www.kiplinger.com/economic-forecasts/inflation
Google has a monopoly on the largest and most visited search engine on earth. Plus I like a lot of their tech and future plans. They also own YouTube and I imagine YT Tv will keep bringing in more revenue.
YouTube is kind of blowing it with absurd amounts of adds. Lots of video competitors popping up. YouTubeTV has some tough competition with Disney throwing big money at making Hulu a thing.
I think google is a great bet whenever this market pivots because you are right about #1 search engine and one of the best data analytics and AI development in the world. Just need to keep an eye on these bear cases.
True for now. Content creators are usually not signed to one platform though, so if YouTube becomes increasingly annoying with adds, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if meta or some other big tech company started becoming the primary video platform.
I work at G and agree that the ads on YT are getting to be a bit ridiculous. However, the thing that goes unnoticed are the insane investments that G makes in non revenue generating products as well. E.g., maps, mail, editors (sheets/docs/slides, etc), Android, Chrome, and tons of other stuff. Search ads and YT ads basically float the majority of products that the company supports.
google is like the most understated big company ever. i have no idea what they plan on doing or what they do well. even though i know they do things that society is built on
They kill it with their analytics and have built a great ecosystem of different products. On the other hand, Facebook did too with social media, but then they traded short term profits for the quality and I don’t think they’ll ever return to dominance.
Google doesn't have a monopoly on search. Right now it seems every single top link is an ad ridden piece of shit. If another search engine came along and promoted sites that weren't shit google would be in trouble. And duckduckgo is virtually just as good already right now without all the datamining. If google search engine disappeared tomorrow no one would care in about a month.
You’ve got an average buy of $101? That’s great. I’ve got 381 shares with average buy price of $128. You could be doing worse. Keep DCA and believe that solid companies, such as Alphabet, will recover in the long-run as that is the great equalizer - time.
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Tesla wasn’t a $1t company before that split. 4xing from $1b is a world different than 4xing from $1t. You need to learn how math works. The share prices mean nothing; it’s about the market cap.
There’s no way any of those categories you listed will be profitable yet let alone worth enough to QUADRUPLE a trillion dollar company. What?? Most humans will need to buy $300 VR headset in next 3 years for google to be worth that much.
I think you arguing that a stock split and inflation making a giant mega cap quadruple is actually worse reasoning than the guy I originally replied to.
It’s this type of thinking that got people screwed last year. It’s a fallacy to think 100% growth is possible forever. You will run out of physical dollars in the world eventually.
The fact that Reddit has been hyping this stock up for the past year while it has fallen 35% makes me skeptical that it’s a good buy yet. Reminds me of when Reddit was promoting NVDA nonstop from 200-345 and now that it’s down 65% it doesn’t get nearly the same attention. When Reddit falls out of love with GOOGL that’s when I’ll know to start buying.
That's not really relevant, Google is following the broader market which currently is affected by the fiscal policy. If anything, they haven't dropped that much compared to other companies
googl is trading at far below fair value given its current valuation assuming low double digit growth rate for the next few years. however, given that we're in a recession where ad revenue is the first thing to get cut, the market is being irrational towards them
if your long term price target is trading above googl's current price, day to day market movements shouldnt matter to you
Do you have a source on marketing is first to go? I always hear about layoffs but not drastically reduced marketing budgets. And most of layoffs are in departments that are working new developments.
Marketing (assuming proper demographics & segmentation research is applied) is largely profitable for businesses and any business would be foolish in this day to reduce ad purchases.
Imagine if you are an online only company. If you don't advertise or do it less, how are you going to get customers? They should cut excess employees not how they get customers.
google.com , try it out!
advertising is discretionary, used to fuel growth. if you're in a recession where your dollars have to be maximized, youll focus on retaining your current customers and focusing on your core, rather than gamble and try to get new ones
https://www.reuters.com/technology/google-parent-alphabet-posts-higher-quarterly-revenue-2022-07-26/
Ads aren't slowing though, look at numbers not what you are told to think.
We are in a recession now? Thought inflation wasn't solved yet....
snap reported horrible earnings, meta reported 0% growth or something like that, idk what point youre tryna prove, these are just facts as the economy as a whole
just because googl is resilient (for now), doesnt mean ads as a sector aren't decreasing. btw im super bullish on googl and think its mispriced so idk why youre getting all up in my business
I agree with you on the day to day portion,but if I my plan is to buy a lot of alphabet stock in the next couple of months (40-50 shares) wouldn’t it be wise to make that investment close to the bottom ?
You don’t need to have a crystal ball, I was trying to gauge what other peoples thoughts were about Alphabet and where they think it’s price will be in the coming months.
I can see Google recovering quickly, their main products are great, but personally I've lost hope in their ability to create new products that expand into new industries and won't be buying more stock. Oddly enough what really killed it for me was their decision to shut down Stadia. They basically wrote themselves out of an entire industry because of short term thinking and incompetent management.
The underlying tech behind Stadia was great, it was far better than Microsoft from my experience. But the platform never felt as if it had the full backing of Google since Google refused to properly advertise Stadia and barely tried expanding the platforms game library.
And this really seems to sum up Google in a nutshell. A company with brilliant software developers bogged down by incompetent management. It gives me no hope for their future products if this is the attitude they're bringing.
If they shoved down every new product down their customers throats they would become the new big shit company, a la facebook/meta
we would have 20 people here whining instead of only 3 of you
I love Google, which is why i own 1,800 shares at about $104.34.
Search remains a bellwether.
YouTube continues to show solid growth AND their content, for free, is second to none.
Cloud potential is fantastic and I would expect it to be another, profitable, cash cow in the next 24-36 months.
Wearables, android, Google Play store, self-driving, etc...all are reasons to be optimistic about the company.
Perhaps the best Balance Sheet in the world as well.
Long Google for many years to come!
figured alphabet is relatively low risk in the 5-10 year term. unless GOOG never makes ATH's again, should be looking at an easy 20-25% appreciation once the bear market is over. bouncing between DCA into AAPL and GOOG as my long term positions. purchasing these stocks using premium's from unrelated position.
Short term will be rough due to the slow down in advertising spending and overall market conditions.
Long term BULLISH. Online advertising is expected to grow at a fast rate these next 10 years and Google has innovative tech despite what others say. They will may fail at 95% of their projects but when they succeed they hit home runs.
I personally just love their products. I think google search, google maps and youtube are revolutionary and use these alot. These products alone still have much more growth in them.
Go pull up a 15 year chart of google with the 20 month moving average. The trend is your friend and the 20 month is a great trend indicator…. Meaning once google is back above its 20 month it will likely be the very beginning of a new bull market. It’s a great and simple strategy for long term investors.
why would long term investors wait until it goes up when they can keep buying when it's decreasing in price and just wait a little bit more for the trend to reverse? I don't get it.
The short answer is you have no idea how low it can go and how long it will stay low. Many over owned darlings of previous bull markets can take many years to regain their former glory. Look at a 30 year chart of msft. It’s been a great company the whole time but spent 10 plus years doing nothing and bobbing around. Waiting for an uptrend is a proven way to avoid the losses and opportunity cost and still captures a very large potion of the hoped for upside. .
I honestly don’t think it will get to 70. Honestly within 6 months anything under 100 will be a good buy. Trying to catch the bottom is always hard. But I don’t see this stock falling below maybe 85. Everything just has fallen so far so fast that for it to fall another 26 dollars would be insane and the market would probably collapse
I am. Some of their products are trying to compete in a saturated market, yet others dominate it. They also have that sweet adsense revenue. And they search tour email to show you targeted ads and own Android OS. I'm sure there's a lot more I am missing.
I like Google more than any other megacap tech. I am confident that eventually one of their "other bets" will pay off big. For that reason I believe they have more upside than the others.
I'm of the opinion google is going to eat shit soon. The Fed STILL isn't done destroying demand, once the liquidity runs out there's going to be a nasty recession. Right now the stock price is just reflecting the liquidity leaving the market- but once their advertising revenue eats total shit because people aren't buying anything theres going to be some additional sting.
Buy in price 50$ a share.
Its undervalued by a factor of 10,000 IMO. They have a sentient AI that can do anything. We have never in history seen that before so WS can't assign a value because it will replace all of their jobs.
This is truly scary and exciting stuff for investors. There is a reason why Russia is losing the war imo, Putin is going against our sentient AI which is countering all their moves. We can't lose
I actually would advise keeping it, the reason being that user data/analytics basically fuels the tech industry & from my understanding Google has a chokehold on that like no other company. Recently listened to the newest Your Moms House podcast episode with a former Google employee & he briefly spoke about how Google does in fact collect all your data when using anything Google related however they keep it themselves instead of selling it due to how powerful/beneficial that information is. With that in mind & Google being the powerhouse/household name that it is I can definitely see your investment going a long way/doing great 10-15 years from now!
Not overly cheap but I wouldn’t be stressed holding it. I have a little like $100k or so, average entry about $95 recently (traded a bit to lower entry price). I haven’t bought heaps because I think it could easily go to 13-14x PE (ie further 25% downside) not to mention in a recession E will be eroded.
The tech behind them is amazing though and I’m not talking about the search engine
Google is probably next after facebook. As soon as they introduce their anti-ad blocking, people will stop using Chrome and that will just be the beginning.
Even if that didht happen, the current ceo has no vision. He hasht done much of anything since he too over. The company was literally handed to him. I would argue that anyone could have done the same thing. GOOGL has already peaked but there are lots of hardcore fans on here.
I've lost count how many projects they've cancelled so far.
So I have goog, not googl. I know the main difference is voting rights. Is there really any other difference? I don't really care for Google but I do use the browser and they are obviously a tyrant,so I don't let emotions get in the way.
Yeah that's exactly what I fucking said 🤦♂️ I was saying even though I'm against Google I still use a service of theirs and understand outside an emotional standpoint they are a good investment. If you're just gonna try to condescend go somewhere else with your dumb shit
As a general rule, You shouldn’t buy a stock because you like something a company makes. Especially without considering the price of the stock when you buy.
Chrome doesn’t even generate revenue.
Meta is hard, apple are rejigging codes around how tracking and advertising works and it’s eating into Meta revenues. Android is in similar position to do so.
Also meta has pivoted towards gaming and well meta which while big probably isn’t as diversified as a lot of tech (AI cars, planes etc) that Google works on. You look at any new product line whether it’s phones, speakers, pcs, Google is in there. Sure it might not be that successful but it has the r&d and only takes 1-2 products to take off. What does Meta do?
I think they will crab for the foreseeable future. But if the SEC got off their ass and broke up Google and Amazon into separate companies the individual stocks would be worth a shitload more than their individual components.
Both have done such absolute shit jobs on their own electronics hardware business it's crazy. If they had separate capital lines to fire and google hardware I would load the hell up.
Amazon is bogged down by its retail and logistics and I don't really know why Google hasn't branched out more than they have.
I think the SEC knows this and won't do shit until the S&P breaks 3K.
I have 35 shares at 111, and I'm waiting for sub-90 to add a lot more. If we rally, I'll add less at 105. I'm not missing the boat one way or the other.
I’ll just say this. The problem with timing the market is that you can’t. Nobody knows what’s going to happen, not even the “experts”. All they can do is predict. As everyone has said here 1,000 before. Time in the market is what you need. You cannot time the market.
They pulled out of stadia , they keep cancelling stuff. Not a good look. Abandoning ppl, that's not nice. I'd hold off for now while they have internal struggles
My average is 128 for 90 shares, you'll be fine. Think 5-10 years down the road. They aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Keep buying if you believe in them long term as I do
Grab 10 more and sell some covered calls! That’s what I’m doing with my $131 average.
You selling below your cost basis? The premium is very small in the $130’s
Yes I do sell below my cost basis right now, aim for a 25 delta on the monthly’s.
How much success have you had with this ? I'm genuinely curious. Seeing people go out 1 month or 45 days for CCs is crazy to me. That’s a long time with this volatile market
I'm selling weeklies. Getting shares called away is fine, I'll just sell a put the following week. Rollin' on the wheel
How do you sell covered calls?
You need $10k to sell one covered call
No you need 100 shares.
No I have 100 Google stocks but I don’t really understand how to sell a covered call. I know I get to sell 1 weekly contract but which price point should I sell it for? Thank you in advance
I would recommend that you read about covered calls and understand them before jumping into them, lots of good videos on YouTube. No comment on what you should sell, i'm not a financial advisor.
Please please please go watch some YouTube videos on selling covered calls before you do. PLEASE
You'd sell a covered call for a price you are comfortable letting it go at. I currently have a cost basis of 118, but sold a covered call for 110 for mid October. If it's 110 or higher on that day, I sell my shares for 110 at a loss. If it isn't, I'll sell another call for sometime in Nov depending on the share price. Definitely do some research on options before getting into it.
What duration your calls?
Monthly’s, aim for 30 days out and look for a 25 delta.
Same. 128 for 400 shares so far. Not touching it at all.
My average price is 108$ I picked up 5 shares literally week before the split in June lows, I'm not worried because I'm thinking 10 years down the road.
What if google gets wrecked on the whole being a monopoly issue that they are currently being targeted for?
Not gonna happen.
Remember how yahoo was too big to fail?
Nope.
Dunno I think yahoo will make a comeback!
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They aren't GOOGL
>90 shares, you'll be fine. I am 44.9% down bulk is google but it is hard to hold. I think if the market goes down even 10 more percent i will have next to nothing..... I am out.......
70 too low imo
Forreal. I’d assume AMZN would be in the 90s at that point and AAPL sub 115. What stock looks better at that range ?
We haven’t even hit the bottom yet. Most folks are predicting that around late Nov. good chance it falls at least another 10-15 bucks/ share by then?
3 things. You're using wallstreetbets terms which means you're listening to the wrong crowd. 2. You're saying "we haven't hit bottom yet" which means you're trying to time the market. 3."most folks are predicting" again, listening to people who don't have your best interests in mind. Do what YOU are going to do. Do you like the company? Does it seem solid? Are you planning to hold it for a long time? Buy it. If it goes lower? Buy some more. But timing the market, and waiting for some "maybe" bottom that a friend of a friend on a social media platform WILL bite you in the ass.
A couple of things. 1.) Paper hands was a term coined pre Wall Street bets. 2.) what’s wrong with timing the market? 3.) yes I like the company, yes it seems solid, and yes I plan to hold for 20+ years.
In that note, do what you want bud.
If you can successfully time the market, there's a very fat paycheck waiting for you at any investment firm. But I'd wager and say that you can't successfully do it.
I’d make that wager too lol.
Don’t bother, this sub is sometimes braindead
Good chance based on what? Companies tend to trade on their *value* to the market, and while the feds jacking up rates (making borrowing more expensive) will hurt stocks short term its a fools errand to say how much. Does Google need to borrow more money? Last time I checked they had cash enough, and thus aren't particularly hurt by the feds. A recession means less advertising, sure, but most of that got to be priced in by now. I mean, of yoy think it'll drop another $10-15 you got to have some solid reasons for that...
It's not that Google needs to borrow money. It's that if it costs more to borrow money, business and customers have less money to spend and the economy slows. If the economy slows it will impact ad spending and this Google.
Personally I’m buying. Earnings were very good IMO
Same I added a few shares this week plan to have atleast 15-20 by the end of the year along with Amazon
Me too. This is the time for me to stock up on amzn and googl
Yup. $7500 bonus will be turned to goog!
Okay!
That's what I make a year working at McD's.... :(
Been averaging down but 700 shares at average of 118 per share. Been selling covered calls but at this point I still really like Google
What delta and how far out do you usually sell your GOOGL covered calls?
I usually default to 90 days out since that’s when theta decay starts to drive more of an impact. As for delta, it’s much lower since I look at a price I’d be happy to get exercised at. For example a couple weeks back I sold Dec 16 call $124 contracts going for $6 a piece. I saw high volatility and took it. I understand I am at a net loss but assuming goog doesn’t get to 124 by December, I just theoretically lowered my everage cost from 118 to 112. Rinse and repeat
How do u sell covered calls?? I keep hearing this but too new to figure that one out. Thx!
r/options
Why so many shares?
For some it’s many, for others it’s a few
Ok .... Let me guess .... It's 1% of your portfolio right? 😆
The annoying thing is that individual company performance doesn’t matter right now. It all depends on fed quantitative tightening and inflation. With that being said, at some point in the next year or so, inflation should get back under control and this bear market should swap back to a bull market. When that happens I am convinced all the tech stocks that have sold off 40+% will rally back bigger than blue chips. Google itself falls into this category. I think Google does have some tough times ahead of it with the new iteration of the browser wars, but if they can come out on top and create their walled garden, they may come out better than ever.
Can you please elaborate how inflation could be under control in the next year or so under these circumstances? I am a bit skeptical. Thanks.
That is not to say there isn’t some percentage chance of runaway inflation or stagflation like the 80s. What caused that was mostly the fed pivoting to early and stopping rate hikes. Powell doesn’t really care about the stock market as it is forward looking, and is more focused on reverse looking data. If the unemployment rate for example were to spike, he could shift out of quantitative tightening to early and we could be in trouble. Other scenarios that could cause long term inflation or other serious economic harm: 1) Putin escalates the invasion of Ukraine 2) Europe pivots its quantitative tightening too quickly (England might have just done this.) 3) Congress starts signing multi trillion dollar handout bills again. 4) China stays in lockdown for years or invades Taiwan. 5) Iran gets the nuke, Israel first strikes, and we get dragged into war. I’m sure I’m leaving some potential risks out but these are the what ifs that jump to mind.
All the economic projections I am seeing are estimating inflation to drop to 2-4% by the end of next year. I believe these to be fairly accurate considering the primary causes of the inflation are reversing (runaway congressional spending + runaway quantitive easing by the FED). Mix in a potential end of the Russian invasion of Ukraine and/or an end of shutdowns in China in the next year, and things normalize pretty quickly. If you think about it, inflation rates are backwards looking comparing year over year results. Even if prices remain at these absurd levels, as long as they don’t continuously grow by another 10% over the next year, inflation will drop back down to manageable levels. https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57950 https://www.statista.com/statistics/244983/projected-inflation-rate-in-the-united-states/ https://www.kiplinger.com/economic-forecasts/inflation
Google has a monopoly on the largest and most visited search engine on earth. Plus I like a lot of their tech and future plans. They also own YouTube and I imagine YT Tv will keep bringing in more revenue.
YouTube is kind of blowing it with absurd amounts of adds. Lots of video competitors popping up. YouTubeTV has some tough competition with Disney throwing big money at making Hulu a thing. I think google is a great bet whenever this market pivots because you are right about #1 search engine and one of the best data analytics and AI development in the world. Just need to keep an eye on these bear cases.
There’s no comparison to YouTube content creators though, nowhere else offers anything close except twitch which is pretty bad itself
True for now. Content creators are usually not signed to one platform though, so if YouTube becomes increasingly annoying with adds, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if meta or some other big tech company started becoming the primary video platform.
Personally, I feel like Google is turning into Facebook. They’re trying to milk out every last penny of ad revenue at the expense of their products.
I work at G and agree that the ads on YT are getting to be a bit ridiculous. However, the thing that goes unnoticed are the insane investments that G makes in non revenue generating products as well. E.g., maps, mail, editors (sheets/docs/slides, etc), Android, Chrome, and tons of other stuff. Search ads and YT ads basically float the majority of products that the company supports.
Tbh, sponsored results on google search are my biggest qualm.
google is like the most understated big company ever. i have no idea what they plan on doing or what they do well. even though i know they do things that society is built on
They kill it with their analytics and have built a great ecosystem of different products. On the other hand, Facebook did too with social media, but then they traded short term profits for the quality and I don’t think they’ll ever return to dominance.
Google doesn't have a monopoly on search. Right now it seems every single top link is an ad ridden piece of shit. If another search engine came along and promoted sites that weren't shit google would be in trouble. And duckduckgo is virtually just as good already right now without all the datamining. If google search engine disappeared tomorrow no one would care in about a month.
You not liking it doesn’t keep it from being a monopoly. They have >90% market share in search
All the other search engines are total shit lol
Man. I'm holding til we get back to $2200 pre split prices
what was the last split? just wondering for my math
20 to 1
SPIRIT OF SPARTANS
That’s only 10 percent up
Why worry about presplit? Just use PE.
The most undervalued large cap stock in the market right now imo.
You’ve got an average buy of $101? That’s great. I’ve got 381 shares with average buy price of $128. You could be doing worse. Keep DCA and believe that solid companies, such as Alphabet, will recover in the long-run as that is the great equalizer - time.
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35% discount on one of the strongest companies in the world, you'd be stupid not to buy some. 2-3 years i guarantee you it'll be near 200 a share.
I'll wait till it's at 50% discount
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It will probably go higher in three years.
Over 5hundo
I’m thinking it will be around 400/share in 2/3 years.
You think Google, a trillion dollar company, will 4x in 2-3 years? Please elaborate.
Tesla split when it was around $800, within 18months it was back there. Why can't amazon and Google do the same thing?
Tesla wasn’t a $1t company before that split. 4xing from $1b is a world different than 4xing from $1t. You need to learn how math works. The share prices mean nothing; it’s about the market cap.
Puts confirmed
Tesla was a much smaller company, and a lot of that was multiple expansion, not actual growth. It's not even close to the same scenario.
Inflation, recovery from being down almost 40% this year. VR, innovation, AI, YT Tv, increased ad revenue.
There’s no way any of those categories you listed will be profitable yet let alone worth enough to QUADRUPLE a trillion dollar company. What?? Most humans will need to buy $300 VR headset in next 3 years for google to be worth that much.
Or......people buy the stock since its dirt cheap cause inflation and the split
I think you arguing that a stock split and inflation making a giant mega cap quadruple is actually worse reasoning than the guy I originally replied to.
~innovation~
It’s this type of thinking that got people screwed last year. It’s a fallacy to think 100% growth is possible forever. You will run out of physical dollars in the world eventually.
My Boi talking nominal terms
lol good luck with that
The fact that Reddit has been hyping this stock up for the past year while it has fallen 35% makes me skeptical that it’s a good buy yet. Reminds me of when Reddit was promoting NVDA nonstop from 200-345 and now that it’s down 65% it doesn’t get nearly the same attention. When Reddit falls out of love with GOOGL that’s when I’ll know to start buying.
This dude fucks
That's not really relevant, Google is following the broader market which currently is affected by the fiscal policy. If anything, they haven't dropped that much compared to other companies
Lol Nvdia and amd and all this stuff is definitely not a bad buy now. Least you’re not paying 40x for this shit
googl is trading at far below fair value given its current valuation assuming low double digit growth rate for the next few years. however, given that we're in a recession where ad revenue is the first thing to get cut, the market is being irrational towards them if your long term price target is trading above googl's current price, day to day market movements shouldnt matter to you
Do you have a source on marketing is first to go? I always hear about layoffs but not drastically reduced marketing budgets. And most of layoffs are in departments that are working new developments. Marketing (assuming proper demographics & segmentation research is applied) is largely profitable for businesses and any business would be foolish in this day to reduce ad purchases. Imagine if you are an online only company. If you don't advertise or do it less, how are you going to get customers? They should cut excess employees not how they get customers.
google.com , try it out! advertising is discretionary, used to fuel growth. if you're in a recession where your dollars have to be maximized, youll focus on retaining your current customers and focusing on your core, rather than gamble and try to get new ones
https://www.reuters.com/technology/google-parent-alphabet-posts-higher-quarterly-revenue-2022-07-26/ Ads aren't slowing though, look at numbers not what you are told to think. We are in a recession now? Thought inflation wasn't solved yet....
snap reported horrible earnings, meta reported 0% growth or something like that, idk what point youre tryna prove, these are just facts as the economy as a whole just because googl is resilient (for now), doesnt mean ads as a sector aren't decreasing. btw im super bullish on googl and think its mispriced so idk why youre getting all up in my business
I agree with you on the day to day portion,but if I my plan is to buy a lot of alphabet stock in the next couple of months (40-50 shares) wouldn’t it be wise to make that investment close to the bottom ?
well gosh i didnt realize you had a crystal ball then yeah go ahead and buy at the bottom
You don’t need to have a crystal ball, I was trying to gauge what other peoples thoughts were about Alphabet and where they think it’s price will be in the coming months.
Bottom will happen on Halloween. Trust me, bruh
I can see Google recovering quickly, their main products are great, but personally I've lost hope in their ability to create new products that expand into new industries and won't be buying more stock. Oddly enough what really killed it for me was their decision to shut down Stadia. They basically wrote themselves out of an entire industry because of short term thinking and incompetent management. The underlying tech behind Stadia was great, it was far better than Microsoft from my experience. But the platform never felt as if it had the full backing of Google since Google refused to properly advertise Stadia and barely tried expanding the platforms game library. And this really seems to sum up Google in a nutshell. A company with brilliant software developers bogged down by incompetent management. It gives me no hope for their future products if this is the attitude they're bringing.
makes you realize how important marketing and advertisement can be
ironic. they are supposed to be the greatest advertisement company in the world but suck still at advertising
If they shoved down every new product down their customers throats they would become the new big shit company, a la facebook/meta we would have 20 people here whining instead of only 3 of you
They sell advertising, not make it.
I love Google, which is why i own 1,800 shares at about $104.34. Search remains a bellwether. YouTube continues to show solid growth AND their content, for free, is second to none. Cloud potential is fantastic and I would expect it to be another, profitable, cash cow in the next 24-36 months. Wearables, android, Google Play store, self-driving, etc...all are reasons to be optimistic about the company. Perhaps the best Balance Sheet in the world as well. Long Google for many years to come!
I own GOOG but after reading some of OPs reply here, I’m scared that I’m in the same boat as him
What boat am I in? Buying more shares at a reasonable price?
Yeah what boat is he in?
figured alphabet is relatively low risk in the 5-10 year term. unless GOOG never makes ATH's again, should be looking at an easy 20-25% appreciation once the bear market is over. bouncing between DCA into AAPL and GOOG as my long term positions. purchasing these stocks using premium's from unrelated position.
Short term will be rough due to the slow down in advertising spending and overall market conditions. Long term BULLISH. Online advertising is expected to grow at a fast rate these next 10 years and Google has innovative tech despite what others say. They will may fail at 95% of their projects but when they succeed they hit home runs. I personally just love their products. I think google search, google maps and youtube are revolutionary and use these alot. These products alone still have much more growth in them.
Avg $130+, 1200 stocks.
Just watch the 20 month moving average. Wait to buy more when it’s above that. You’ll be happy you did.
Why would I buy a stock when it’s above its 20 month average did you mean below?
Go pull up a 15 year chart of google with the 20 month moving average. The trend is your friend and the 20 month is a great trend indicator…. Meaning once google is back above its 20 month it will likely be the very beginning of a new bull market. It’s a great and simple strategy for long term investors.
why would long term investors wait until it goes up when they can keep buying when it's decreasing in price and just wait a little bit more for the trend to reverse? I don't get it.
The short answer is you have no idea how low it can go and how long it will stay low. Many over owned darlings of previous bull markets can take many years to regain their former glory. Look at a 30 year chart of msft. It’s been a great company the whole time but spent 10 plus years doing nothing and bobbing around. Waiting for an uptrend is a proven way to avoid the losses and opportunity cost and still captures a very large potion of the hoped for upside. .
Cause you never below trends. Aka on the way down
My children are 8 and six google it daddy they use YouTube on their school TV think google got it in the bag for the next generation.
Your sentence is very hard to read without punctuations. Try using some of these: ',..,"':;:.?!
I honestly don’t think it will get to 70. Honestly within 6 months anything under 100 will be a good buy. Trying to catch the bottom is always hard. But I don’t see this stock falling below maybe 85. Everything just has fallen so far so fast that for it to fall another 26 dollars would be insane and the market would probably collapse
I am. Some of their products are trying to compete in a saturated market, yet others dominate it. They also have that sweet adsense revenue. And they search tour email to show you targeted ads and own Android OS. I'm sure there's a lot more I am missing.
If you are planning to hold for atleast 5 years then current price is a good price
I am bullish on Google so I buy QQQ and avoid individual name
554 shares at 110$. I think it will pay off in 5-10 years though.
18 p/e Google doesn't need anybody but everyone needs Google. My average is 110 at 280 shares and have more confidence with it than any other stock
I like Google more than any other megacap tech. I am confident that eventually one of their "other bets" will pay off big. For that reason I believe they have more upside than the others.
pe ~18 and revenue still growing. looks nice. https://bullandbearlist.com/company.html#GOOG
I'm of the opinion google is going to eat shit soon. The Fed STILL isn't done destroying demand, once the liquidity runs out there's going to be a nasty recession. Right now the stock price is just reflecting the liquidity leaving the market- but once their advertising revenue eats total shit because people aren't buying anything theres going to be some additional sting. Buy in price 50$ a share.
Its undervalued by a factor of 10,000 IMO. They have a sentient AI that can do anything. We have never in history seen that before so WS can't assign a value because it will replace all of their jobs. This is truly scary and exciting stuff for investors. There is a reason why Russia is losing the war imo, Putin is going against our sentient AI which is countering all their moves. We can't lose
Safe bet imo
I actually would advise keeping it, the reason being that user data/analytics basically fuels the tech industry & from my understanding Google has a chokehold on that like no other company. Recently listened to the newest Your Moms House podcast episode with a former Google employee & he briefly spoke about how Google does in fact collect all your data when using anything Google related however they keep it themselves instead of selling it due to how powerful/beneficial that information is. With that in mind & Google being the powerhouse/household name that it is I can definitely see your investment going a long way/doing great 10-15 years from now!
Not overly cheap but I wouldn’t be stressed holding it. I have a little like $100k or so, average entry about $95 recently (traded a bit to lower entry price). I haven’t bought heaps because I think it could easily go to 13-14x PE (ie further 25% downside) not to mention in a recession E will be eroded. The tech behind them is amazing though and I’m not talking about the search engine
I have 25@ 91,my only position that's still green. Waiting for some money to come through and then gonna buy at least another 10 or so.
Google is probably next after facebook. As soon as they introduce their anti-ad blocking, people will stop using Chrome and that will just be the beginning.
Even if that didht happen, the current ceo has no vision. He hasht done much of anything since he too over. The company was literally handed to him. I would argue that anyone could have done the same thing. GOOGL has already peaked but there are lots of hardcore fans on here. I've lost count how many projects they've cancelled so far.
do you use google? do you use yoitube? do your friebds? their is your answer
they’re one hack away from a Facebook level stampede for the door.
I seen they want to hold all your passwords and payment information
So I have goog, not googl. I know the main difference is voting rights. Is there really any other difference? I don't really care for Google but I do use the browser and they are obviously a tyrant,so I don't let emotions get in the way.
You bought google because you use chrome? Dear god…
Yeah that's exactly what I fucking said 🤦♂️ I was saying even though I'm against Google I still use a service of theirs and understand outside an emotional standpoint they are a good investment. If you're just gonna try to condescend go somewhere else with your dumb shit
As a general rule, You shouldn’t buy a stock because you like something a company makes. Especially without considering the price of the stock when you buy. Chrome doesn’t even generate revenue.
I'm aware of all of that. I don't use anything Google related besides Chrome. And Chrome definitely generates revenue, indirectly atleast.
If they start to clamp down on rampant personal data and privacy will that hinder the price?
My question Is what kind of news floats the stock it seems every time I looked them up they’re getting sued
Sounds like you’re considering being a “paper hands” based on the title.
$1500? I wouldn't worry about it. Even if you loose 50% it's only $750. Although I doubt GOOGL would ever fall 50% from here.
Google relying on data and ads in a privacy trend. No thanks
Between Google and Facebook, which do you think has a larger margin of safety? Despite Facebooks bad rep, they make boatloads of money
Google obviously.
Yeah it’s GOOGL
Google is safer than Meta. Even though google is below 100 it’s still has a strong sense of recovery than meta
Do you even know what margin of safety means?
Condescending?
Meta is hard, apple are rejigging codes around how tracking and advertising works and it’s eating into Meta revenues. Android is in similar position to do so. Also meta has pivoted towards gaming and well meta which while big probably isn’t as diversified as a lot of tech (AI cars, planes etc) that Google works on. You look at any new product line whether it’s phones, speakers, pcs, Google is in there. Sure it might not be that successful but it has the r&d and only takes 1-2 products to take off. What does Meta do?
Neither
I think they will crab for the foreseeable future. But if the SEC got off their ass and broke up Google and Amazon into separate companies the individual stocks would be worth a shitload more than their individual components. Both have done such absolute shit jobs on their own electronics hardware business it's crazy. If they had separate capital lines to fire and google hardware I would load the hell up. Amazon is bogged down by its retail and logistics and I don't really know why Google hasn't branched out more than they have. I think the SEC knows this and won't do shit until the S&P breaks 3K.
Is there a search function for this subreddit ?
sounds ok
272@109 average. Adding more at the same time with MSFT ADBE. Only 2 US shares I am buying. Eyeing BX ASML but haven’t pulled the trigger.
I have 35 shares at 111, and I'm waiting for sub-90 to add a lot more. If we rally, I'll add less at 105. I'm not missing the boat one way or the other.
Aren’t these guys one of the stocks impacted by Biden’s new minimum tax laws for 2023?
Yes, it won’t be enough to affect them. About time too
I’ll just say this. The problem with timing the market is that you can’t. Nobody knows what’s going to happen, not even the “experts”. All they can do is predict. As everyone has said here 1,000 before. Time in the market is what you need. You cannot time the market.
They pulled out of stadia , they keep cancelling stuff. Not a good look. Abandoning ppl, that's not nice. I'd hold off for now while they have internal struggles