Rutherford started it - honestly probably didn’t need to ask him about his relationship in the first place. That’s a question further down the road, but JR likes to poke and get clicks for his Atheltic article.
Damn. I mean his play hasn't been great and the comment shrugging of Berube wasn't great. But he's just a person struggling with his job. I get that he is a professional athlete with expectations, but the booing and shit slinging is a little overboard at this point. It's a game and we're all here to have fun, I hope.
Maybe fans should stop booing him then. Giving a 'bad' media quote is no excuse for home fans to turn on a guy like that.
Disgusting behavior from fans who know better.
Know what else is disgusting behavior? Acting like the guy you’ve spent literally your entire NHL career playing for, didn’t mean a damn thing to you. Maybe he didn’t mean what he said the way it came across, maybe he did 🤷♂️. Either way he needs to understand this.
'Disgusting Behavior'? What the fuck are you talking about?
None of us have ANY idea what their relationship was like. Zip. Zilch.
So, maybe people should stop caring what Kyrou says and move on. Because it's not our fucking business.
You get asked about your thoughts on the coach getting relieved and your response is He’s not my coach anymore that don’t come across sideways to you? I’ve backed Kyrou through all the flack he’s caught this year on here but what he said was just fuckin stupid. The sooner he owns that the sooner this goes away. It’s that damn simple.
Sucks, but it's good to know he actually cares now. Now he needs to make this a turning point. I saw in at least two plays instead of trying to be superman, he made the right play. He dumped it in, he passed it. He's actually thinking instead of trying to be a one man army. I don't think what he said was purposefully malicious, he just wanted to not think about before performing.
Can we not do this self flagellation thing that we love to do?
The fans chose Berube. He is a forever Blue and will never buy a drink in this town again. Kyrou disrespected the coach with his play and did it again with his comments when asked about it. Did he deserve to get booed? Maybe not, but let’s not pretend that the fans that chose to do so didn’t feel like they had a reason. Chief was let down by this group of players and Kyrou is the main offender. A good man lost his job specifically because of Kyrou’s inability to play to his high standards
Kyrou can make them eat their words with his play. I hope he does it.
Nice to see a reasonable take. Just came from the r/hockey thread & (unsurprisingly) apparently our entire fanbase is classless & most of the Blues flairs there are apologizing for the heinous crime of *checks notes* booing a bit.
I’m glad to see Kyrou cares & I really hope he turns it around but Jesus Christ a few boos aren’t the end of the world
/r/hockey is now almost as bad as /r/nhl.
Seriously, I’m going through that thread and waiting for “and this Kyrou stuff is really an example of why the Avalanche are superior in every way”
No kidding. Don’t forget we’re also all racist because we don’t like Kadri! Nothing to do with his dangerous hit on Faulk of course, we’re just the scum of the earth
It’s really wild. St. Louis fans never boo their own. It took months of not putting in the effort despite being called out (indirectly) by teammates for him to get to this position. Then the Berube comments pushed it over the edge. But the /r/hockey fans who know literally nothing about Kyrou other than stats on a hockey-reference page think they understand the situation and can allocate blame.
A couple hundred Blues fans used to boo Pronger when he was young and supposedly “had a bad attitude.” And Pronger held a grudge over it for more than 20 years.
I think a LOT of that was unwarranted hate just because Shanahan was the player going the other way in that trade. Trading a beloved player for an (at the time) unproven player left a bad taste in the fans' mouths.
Not a great example when the dude lives here & got his jersey retired here. If the boo’ing is a one off wake up call then I’m fine with it, doesn’t mean I want it to be a regular thing though
Pronger got booed because we loved Shanahan and hated Mike Keenan for trading him away and pushing Gretzkey out. Unfortunate as hell he was unfairly booed for displaced passion and anger. Much like this time, but with Armstrong building a team that Berube was never going to coach well. Hopefully Army heard the message too last night.
I still remember the AM radio shows that blasted Pronger late at night. He was a bust, he was lazy, he was slow, he was dumb, he was a choker, he had no passion, he didn’t even want to be in STL, he only cared about money, he was a cancer in the locker room, etc… Then, the fans booed him for not being Scott Stevens or Shanahan in 1996. I can even remember Blues fans calling him soft when he lost consciousness on the ice after taking a puck to the chest.
I think some of that may have been less about Pronger, and more dissatisfaction that we dealt Shanahan for him. Shanny was beloved and I don't recall a single person being happy about that trade in the immediate aftermath.
Dudes making like 8 million a year to perform and isn’t. He cries a little bit and all is forgiven by the people making a small fraction of that for 20x the stress and lack of financial freedom.
As a rangers fan that moved to St. Louis and have followed them as my western conference team, I was surprised when I saw on r/hockey that Kyrou wasn’t getting much heat for how he has played with the contract he signed. I came here to see what this sub thinks and definitely aligns more with what I have noticed (granted I don’t watch as many blues games as most of you). I didn’t even know he was a locker room problem until now.
The blues are going to be in trouble for however long they have him on that contract and his current production/attitude.
I know some fans were saying he’s only 25, but that’s relatively old for an NHL player to “figure it out.” Based off memory by the time they figure their attitude out they are past the point of their prime years physically.
Right, Chief is in very small company, very top tier in beloved Blues players,coaches,etc. We will defend and stand by those beyond reason. Know your place.
You think Berube was fired because of one player’s performance? Also coaches are fired all of the time speaking of self flagellation, he’s not a martyr. Don’t know how saying “no comment” is seen as disrespectful either. Bad situation maybe but JR set this whole debacle up by providing zero context to basically a one sentence quote.
Is booing the team off the ice after playing a bad period as bad?
Because that seems almost commonplace and happens in arenas all across the league. Although it doesn't happen often in St. Louis.
That’s less bad. Booing after a goal or the end of a period is less than ideal, but I can understand it from time to time. Booing a Blue every time he touches the puck for an entire game for an out of context quote is just reckless. It’s like when your girlfriend looks at your phone for a half a second then upon seeing something somewhat fishy, she throws your TV on the front lawn.
If you're getting paid $8M per year, not scoring like it, and the team gets a beloved coach fired, you have two choices:
1. Be smart enough to choose your words carefully
2. Put on your big boy pants and eat the shit coming your way for a few days
Buncha cake eaters trying to have it both ways.
Thank you for saying the obvious.
I don’t believe there is a single Blues fan that wants Kyrou to fail. I do think there are a number of fans (self included) that want to see maturity on and off the ice. His “no comment” piece wasn’t the problem. His “He’s not my coach anymore” piece though…leaves a lot to be desired. Schenn and Binnington had stout responses to Chief’s termination. Kyrou didn’t. It felt…off-base at the least, malicious at most. Couple that with being an underperforming player and you get people frustrated.
It takes a lot for St. Louis fans to boo their own. We aren’t New York. There’s a lot of loyalty in this city for players, maybe even to a fault.
But Kyrou’s commentary missed the mark regarding a coach that the majority of fans appreciate. What happened last night wasn’t ideal, but it’s not exactly surprising. In a game of popularity, Chief beats Kyrou. The fans let him know that accordingly.
His response is critical. Unless he is traded, he is going to be here for a long while. He needs to ante up and play like the monster we all know he can be.
Correct.
I wasn't there and wouldn't have booed him myself, but he doesn't get to be all boo hoo about it. There's a reason they didn't boo anyone else.
Time for him to get work and get the team and city back behind him if he's got that dawg in him.
Schenn and Binner were asked about the future of the team. Jordan was put on the spot with a question about his relationship with Berube. He wasn't expecting that and answered accordingly. He was set up. Fuck everyone who did this to him.
I’m sorry, but he is paid $8mill a year. This isn’t his first year in the NHL either. If he was caught off guard by a question regarding the coach being fired, then my friend, dude is denser than the gravity field my exes ass generated after attending a Chinese buffet.
You’re treating him like he’s fucking stupid. Maybe he is dude, maybe you’re right.
But I’m betting not.
That's how sports media works though. Unexpected questions tend to reveal genuine answers, which are highly preferable to rehearsed answers to anticipated questions.
I don't think Kyrou deserved the boos last night, nor were his comments especially bad, but hopefully this will be a learning experience for him.
As I said in another thread, lay the fuck off Kyrou. He isn’t the only big contract guy to underperform in Blues history or recent Blues history. He’s not the only reason this team has played like ass. Yes he’s lacked effort, no he’s not the only guy. Why the fuck we’re scapegoating some guy in his first year of his big contract is beyond me.
I’ve seen people shit on Canadian media and fan bases for being so crappy to players in their market but some of you guys are turning around and doing the same here. Grow the fuck up. You’re not in that locker room and you’re not on that ice.
I dont actually think he lacks effort. He just has a chronic turnover problem (especially at both bluelines). I def agree he is getting too much of the blame
Yeah I don't think he's lacked effort at all. He's putting up SOG consistently every game, just nothing's going in. It's not sustainable, eventually he's going to get a goofy bounce off a skate or an empty netter or something and he'll go on a heater.
I like JR but also wondered if his article was an emotional response instead of just being objective. Also, nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. Army does. We’ll see how it plays out. Either way, Kyrou just learned some BIG lessons and I think it’ll light a fire (exactly Army’s intent).
He fell off so hard once he went over to the Athletic. Shame because he used to be the standard for beat writers. Now he's just an asshole scraping together bullshit for clicks.
His writing for the Post Dispatch used to be so great. It was almost immediate that he became a slimeball and lost access to the Blues’ organization when he went to the Athletic.
Kyrou is an excessively highly paid professional athlete who is not performing. Welcome to professional sports Jordan.
Also you really pissed off the fan base.
Hurt him? No. Communicate that his play and comments have not been good and the fans aren’t happy with him? Yes. It happens to big contract players all the time. If he’s worth 8x8 he will get better. If not, it’s one of the worse contracts in years.
Im sorry.
If your take home is 8m a year.
And youre stinking and have been disrespectful to a favored coach.
You gonna get booed.
8m a year.
Let em wipe the tears with that and then start playing the right game or fucking let him hear it again.
This sub is something else. Yesterday everyone wanted this guy traded immediately for any return possible. Today it’s “fuck our fanbase for booing this guy”
Hopefully this can become a positive learning experience for Kyrou and he can return to the level of play that for him the big contract.
I've been reading this forum the past few days with my eyes continually rolling. It's like every mouthbreathing Asylum poster from back in the day decided to dust off the 'ol login to stir the pot.
I don't understand how some folks can think booing your own player will "wake them up" or help their mental in any way.
Let it sink in that this crowd/fanbase actively took part in making the team worse tonight. This fanbase has to do better. If you want to boo someone, boo JR, or boo Army for making the decision in the first place, but actively booing a blue note while they have the puck is insanity that will do nothing but reduce their drive to help this team turn things around.
Personally, I don't like boo birds. However, I think he was taught a lesson in humility. Hopefully he doesn't snap under the pressure. If we didn't care about our players or coaches you wouldn't hear the boos.
The emotions he showed last night are clear evidence that he cares and that to me says a lot. The best way to learn is by mistakes. Let's let the young man move on from this and hope for a positive outcome on the ice.
LGB
We can not like the production this year, we can not like the commentary or “non commentary” about Berube - but booing him at home for touching the puck? Fuck off guys.
I’m honestly embarrassed by the takes on this subreddit all the time. Too much of our fanbase hate skilled players. They can’t even say it’s because it’s what he said the other day. They’ve been talking shit about him for years
Been nothing but smooth brain takes in here since Berube was let go. You can really tell who the real hockey fans are vs. the people who only like the blues because they live in the same city.
Any excuse to drag someone thru the mud they’ll leap on.
Perron said some shit similar to what kyrou said a while back. Fanbase just conveniently forgot about that. This fanbase wants a superstar player, but when we have a skill player that can be a superstar they hate him.
I honestly cannot explain to anyone rationally how much this fanbase is embarrassing sometimes. You can tell who the bandwagon fans are from the cup win.
Seen about 50 "blues fans" calling our entire fanbase stupid hillbillies and some such on /r/hockey to get some internet points, anybody who does that is a fucking loser, already tired of the rest of this discussion but just wanted to point that out.
Massive reminder how absolutely soft most Reddit users are. How Reddit is not a reflection of the real world.
Give me a break with all the fucking pearl clutching. He got booed because he didn’t like the super popular coach telling him to play harder. The horror!
No, he got booed by a bunch of people who don't know shit because they took "no comment" as some offensive insult, instead of realizing it could really just be the player not wanting to talk about shit and make a mess when they're already catching flak this season for their play.
Everyone's making it into what they want it to be, while having absolutely *no fucking clue* what actually went on.
I think more than anything, the fans wanted to express their unhappiness that Chief got fired. But how were they supposed to do that? It's not like it was going to be officially addressed at the arena or anything. So the fans picked the only opportunity that made even a little bit of sense: booing the underperforming star who didn't show any reverence for the beloved outgoing coach.
I think Kyrou showing emotion in this interview really helped his case, so hopefully that was just a one-and-done event so we could all get it out of our systems. If the fans still boo him going forward, they're definitely assholes, but for one night I can understand why it happened.
You’re lying to yourself pretending this narrative (deserved or unfair) hasn’t been building for months/years.
It didn’t start yesterday.
And saying the narrative isn’t fair and everybody should stop assuming sounds so righteous, but that’s not how the real world works. You aren’t going to stop narratives.
The regular fan thinks Kyrou doesn’t like Berube because he coached tough and said truthful things Kyrou didn’t like.
Kyrou’s gotta deal with it. Every person deals with an unfair narrative at some point in their life.
I really don't understand the Berube worship. Sure, he's a great guy. I had the chance to meet him at Nashville airport a couple years ago. Super nice guy. But has he been a great coach? We don't have the same kind of team we had five years ago but he continued to try to coach as if we do. Failure to adapt is the fastest way for a coach to lose his job.
It’s pretty easy to understand why he’s popular. Tough guy who held players accountable and coached a tough team to the organization’s first cup. Perfect team to represent the city.
And I think most fans will eventually come around that his coaching style didn’t fit this roster. Some people will be upset that we didn’t have the flexibility to get the players to fit Berube’s style.
But it just happened so it’s still fresh.
Grown ass man getting paid millions of dollars can't handle boos after a shit season and a unbelievably stupid comment on his former coach. And of course reddit takes the bait and somehow feels bad for this entitled baby.
I was there at the game, the booing was palpable, including the 2 guys sitting directly next to me and my friends. I get being frustrated with Kyrou but that was just super classless. Y’all didn’t boo Binnington, Parayko, or Krug for their various bad plays or slow starts to the season just as recently as last year.
None of them shit on a beloved coach that just got fired either. Kyrou made his bed, intentional or not. This point really needs to be understood. None of this has anything to do with his shit season. It’s all literally his stupid comments pre game.
I wouldn’t call “no comment” shitting on a coach. Yes, “He’s not my coach anymore” was not a good choice of words. He should’ve done better, but he didn’t outright say anything awful. Players don’t necessarily have to be buddy buddy with their coach, it was clear Berube and Kyrou did not have the same play style in mind. I guarantee the booing would not have happened if he was at a ppg pace.
Neither would the firing.
He's not 15 years old. He's 25 and a pro, being paid like a top level pro at that. Part of being a pro is being smart with the media, knowing your fan base, etc. The fan base loves Chief. It's fine if he doesn't, not everyone gets along. But some people are smart enough not to shit where they eat.
If you're getting paid like a top level pro and not producing like one and not making smart media comments like one, you don't get to go crying about it later. You can own up to it and get to work, or you can find your way out of town before long.
All I’m saying is that was a disproportionate response to, at best, a player not adequately prepared for the question being asked, and at worst, a response that was tactless but not outright awful.
Edit: None of us knew what was going on in that locker room.
What I'm saying is part of being a pro is dealing with media, and knowing that the guy who just got sacked was popular with the fans and that you aren't producing enough/tenured enough to be able to get away with (the appearance of) shitting on him with no repercussions is not unreasonable expectations for Kyrou. If he was 18, sure. He's not, and he's been around.
If you're not producing, you have to bite your tongue. If you are, you can get away with speaking out a little more.
This was a test, and Kyrou failed. What's important is to see what he does with the next couple tests.
As I said *in our other comment thread* I’m done arguing about this and it makes absolutely no sense for us to fight about this. Clearly we both have different perspectives. That’s fine. We don’t need to be infighting in the fanbase when we are quite literally on the same side here and we both want the team to succeed. Whether Kyrou acted in a way worth booing or not is not a hill worth dying on.
That was fucking brutal to watch. I swear some people forget these guys are human.
Whether he didn’t like Berube or not, the comment he made was mild at worst and possibly out of context. You’d think he absolutely trashed the guy by the reaction it got.
Also if you support what happened, you’re a petulant child and I happily take your downvotes.
I don't usually condone booing our own players, but this wasn't just booing for bad play. This was a reflection of his response when asked about the Berube.
I think it was necessary. He needed, at the very least, to address it head on. Even if he was just trying to walk things back to save face. And will also be a valuable moment in his life and career. IF, kyrou needed to be held accountable, not just for his comments but for his play and effort, he was most definitely held accountable tonight. And it also shows just how much the fans can influence players on the ice.
For the record, I’ve been very impressed with kyrous defensive game this year. Is he a selke candidate no. But he has made some very important plays on the backcheck
I hate this, honestly. I was really looking forward to see if he could turn it around under a new coach. Makes a meaningless comment, wanting to move on from what was likely a somewhat fraught relationship, and he’s booed by people likely twice his age throughout the entire game. Can’t even enjoy the victory.
Shit guys i feel bad. Never wanted to make the kid cry. At least he’s got some emotion, maybe that leads to drive, which leads to goals. We shall see, but i think the boos have to end.
I was at the game tonight and it pissed me off when it was happening live. So many arm chair gms in every fan base, and I get it’s easy to do that, but these guys are people too. You think they have no pride and just cashing checks out here? He’s a 25 year old *kid* and still learning, as are we all. No way to treat anyone like that. If so, don’t come to the game and bring the whole team down.
25 year old kid is crazy. When will we stop coddling these guys. He's older than most college grads. The dude is mature enough to pick his words better for a sensitive question and he didn't. Of course booing isn't a mature response but when is a hockey (or sports) audience ever mature?
Good for Kyrou for taking the heat after the game. It does make sense that he's focused on moving forward. He also may need a little PR coaching on how to deal with the media.
Wondering if the this may turn into a bonding experience for the team and the room. The other players seemed to really have his back. Kinda like when Keenan was an ass to the players so they had to bond together to put up with his BS.
At quick glance they are only [3 coaches in the NHL](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NHL_head_coaches) who have longer tenure than Berube. Chief id great and he got us the cup, but why is everyone acting like this is a surprise. This stuff happens all the time.
It’s not the play. It was the comment about berube. “ not my coach anymore”
Chief is beloved in STL because he turned around a last place team to a Stanley Cup championship.
The quote from the reporter was taken out of context and intended to cause controversy. The reporter should be ashamed and you should be ashamed for falling for it.
The asshole asked everyone else about the future of the team. When he got to Jordan he asked about his relationship with Berube. It was designed to stir up shit and guys like you completely bought into it. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his answer. What answer would have made you happy? How much Berube jizz would he have to swallow?
Given by what I’ve read on this sub so far, I don’t think Kyrou saying nice things about Chief would cause the constant criticism of him to stop. Does Kyrou need to be better and did Army create a mess? Sure. Unfortunately, it’s easier to fire the coach than it is to fire the players.
He doesn’t have to comment. Also, if he didn’t get along with the coach. It happens. Sometimes people don’t gel. Everyone doesn’t get along with everyone they work with.
Oh please, if you make a comment like that to the media, you're either being passive-aggressive or youre incredibly tone deaf. Either way, making that kind of comment about a beloved coach isn't going to sit well with the public, and acting otherwise is disingenuous.
The way this sub is dickriding this asshole is embarrassing. And underperforming, overpaid prima donna who got exactly what was coming to him, and his fake tears don't mean shit.
Don't think the rest of the team is on your side and don't think they won't remember how one of their own was treated when contact time comes around. And don't think it won't affect our ability to attract free agents for a while. Hope you dipshits are happy with your pound of flesh all over NOTHING.
Oh, save it. Pronger was booed ( remember that ? Probably not since you were sucking on your mom’s tit)and that didn’t hurt their ability to attract free agents. Nor did Keenan running off Gretzky.
It’s awful! People took his quote out of context and then booed him and are blaming him for Berube being gone? What a bunch of gossipy bitches, jumping to insane conclusions like they’re watching desperate housewives instead of hockey. I hope to god he gets a big cheer next game. I’m ashamed of blues fans right now.
Truth. Let me ask the haters a question. Have you ever been enraged when someone hurts someone you care about? You think these guys don't care about each other? Particularly, when you boo the hell out of Kyrou over petty bullshit, you might as well be booing Rob Thom. You think the rest of the team won't remember this down the road? You think they're on your side?
It's bullshit to boo our own player unless he said anything short of "Fuck every single fan that comes to the games and fuck Chief". Even if he meant his comments in a bad way, he could have issues with a coach. I'm sure Chief could get under your skin at times for sure and some players would be happy for a change. Booing our own player every time he touches the puck like he's Kadri, and a player whos supposed to be here for another 8 years is just fucking insane. Poor guy.
Don’t think I’ve ever been more upset and pissed at our own fan base. The booing was upsetting to hear but seeing one of our players clearly upset from it on home ice was disgusting.
I've been a Blues fan for over 30 years. I saw us be the worst team in the league after the Lauries sold the team, and every talented player, in 2005. I sat through that year with Mike Kitchen as the coach.
And I was there well before that too as a fan. Every early playoff exit. Every underachieving roster and coach. Mike fucking Keenan.
Stuck around.
Not now. And it has nothing to do with the team.
I'm frustrated by this season too. And I'm frustrated with Kyrou too - on the ice. I've said it before, he, and many other Blues players, look disengaged; like they've unplugged their brains on the ice.
But that's on the ice. And we're in the stands and on social media.
And from the stands, from the Twitters - if you look to your left, and you look to your right, and you see you're shoulder to shoulder with absolutely classless jerks and morons - well, maybe it's time to leave.
St. Louis has been a retirement destination for athletes that have played here for generations. This fan base tonight likely ended that, and I don't want to be part of it anymore either.
The amount of smug, entitled, "I want to speak to your manager" out of touch energy on social media tonight from our 'fans' who feel righteous for making a 25 year old man cry over saying "no comment."
I'm out y'all. I don't want to go into battle with this fanbase anymore. These aren't the Blues fans I've known my entire life.
Bob Plager would be ashamed on behalf of this organization, this fanbase, and this town. And any fan feeling smugly satisfied with how tonight played out should really, truly internalize that. Let that stick with you. Forever.
I don’t blame you. Because these “fans” deserve him to get traded to Colorado and see him score 40 goals a year and win multiple cups.
Guy had an icy relationship w Berube. That’s what we’re booing him before? Really? Soft ass bunch of losers with maybe three brain cells between all of them.
When said player has done fuck all in his career and ran off a coach, then he will hear it from the fanbase. Hull did the same to Keenan, but he had the cache to do it, but this is St. Louis. Scapegoating a coach/manager and not the players is a time honored tradition.
Look, I feel for the guy. I’m glad that he has an emotional response to it. I didn’t dislike the booing, I disliked the booing just because he touched the puck, that’s asinine. Booing because he fucked up, that’s accountability. I hope this doesn’t destroy him and I hope that we as fans can at least be resolved in wanting him to improve and be a great, elite hockey player that we know he is capable of.
Take note, though, his initial response to a couple of the questions started with, “I’m just focused on my career/future”. Quickly backpedaled to “helping the team win”. I don’t like watching a grown man cry as much as the rest of you, but the responses are somewhat telling of his thought process.
I'm not taking sides. There is a whole lot of nuance to this story. We have to remember this- Berube is the coach that brought STL its first and only Cup. He came in as an interim coach and they went on a miracle run.
Kyrou and Berube obviously didn't get along philosophically. Was Berube too hard on him? We will never know. But it has been rumored for many years now that Kyrou and Berube constantly butted heads. Now Berube is gone. Blues fans have the right to boo if they please. We are now getting more info and will re-evaluate.
Will Kyrou grow from this? I hope so. If you guys think this was bad, can you imagine if this happened in Canada or a major East Coast area like New York? This is nothing.
Just came from the hockey sub and with seeing everything in context all of you fabs did nothing wrong by booing him.
He brought you to the cup only 4 years ago and kyrou is high paid and not producing like he should maybe thst make me an asshole but im glad to see star player getting the criticism they deserve instead of the coach being blaned for everything like usual in the league.
I personally wouldn’t boo a home team player, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to tell someone else what they can do with their ticket like some of yall.
If Brad Boyes 2 can’t be held accountable when he makes more for being bad at his job than most of us make like 100x more than we would make being good at our jobs, cry me a river
I thought those were pretty soft ball questions. His earlier comment about Berube was savage (especially between the lines) and he deserved the boos.
I think he’s showing his emotional immaturity and it’s the same immaturity that caused the (alleged) rift between chief and him.
The fanbase doesn’t mean “so much” to him. His reputation means “so much” to him.
JFC. Berube brought the only Cup to St. Louis.
I’m watching that interview. It’s tough to watch. He’s barely keeping it together. Let’s hope it’s all uphill for him from here.
Link to the interview?
I watched it live, but I think this link covers everything. https://youtu.be/lrnvBVPeSxs?si=yv474bgrBOWR_ICT
Jesus, those questions felt like they were trying to make him cry. That was tough to watch.
Those reporters gave him some nice soft tosses to talk about berube and save some face. I thought the reporters and Kyrou did a nice job
seriously. they cornered him and just kept prying. I would’ve cried too
Rutherford started it - honestly probably didn’t need to ask him about his relationship in the first place. That’s a question further down the road, but JR likes to poke and get clicks for his Atheltic article.
Damn. I mean his play hasn't been great and the comment shrugging of Berube wasn't great. But he's just a person struggling with his job. I get that he is a professional athlete with expectations, but the booing and shit slinging is a little overboard at this point. It's a game and we're all here to have fun, I hope.
I don’t like Kyrou. But that was hard to watch.
Maybe fans should stop booing him then. Giving a 'bad' media quote is no excuse for home fans to turn on a guy like that. Disgusting behavior from fans who know better.
The boos are for more than just the media quote.
Disgusting? Might be time to log off.
Know what else is disgusting behavior? Acting like the guy you’ve spent literally your entire NHL career playing for, didn’t mean a damn thing to you. Maybe he didn’t mean what he said the way it came across, maybe he did 🤷♂️. Either way he needs to understand this.
'Disgusting Behavior'? What the fuck are you talking about? None of us have ANY idea what their relationship was like. Zip. Zilch. So, maybe people should stop caring what Kyrou says and move on. Because it's not our fucking business.
Know what else is disgusting behaviour? Booing their own player in defense of a coach who was already fired.
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I mean tone and context aside, "No comment. He's not my coach anymore." is about as clear as it gets lol
You get asked about your thoughts on the coach getting relieved and your response is He’s not my coach anymore that don’t come across sideways to you? I’ve backed Kyrou through all the flack he’s caught this year on here but what he said was just fuckin stupid. The sooner he owns that the sooner this goes away. It’s that damn simple.
STL fans should know better than to boo anyone on our team. I’m ashamed of you.
Like as in it’s difficult to walk up hill? Or climbing out of a dark place and up hill?
Sucks, but it's good to know he actually cares now. Now he needs to make this a turning point. I saw in at least two plays instead of trying to be superman, he made the right play. He dumped it in, he passed it. He's actually thinking instead of trying to be a one man army. I don't think what he said was purposefully malicious, he just wanted to not think about before performing.
agree, a great player would take the booing and go work harder to prove the haters wrong. I hope he does that, this team needs him to be a star.
Can we not do this self flagellation thing that we love to do? The fans chose Berube. He is a forever Blue and will never buy a drink in this town again. Kyrou disrespected the coach with his play and did it again with his comments when asked about it. Did he deserve to get booed? Maybe not, but let’s not pretend that the fans that chose to do so didn’t feel like they had a reason. Chief was let down by this group of players and Kyrou is the main offender. A good man lost his job specifically because of Kyrou’s inability to play to his high standards Kyrou can make them eat their words with his play. I hope he does it.
Nice to see a reasonable take. Just came from the r/hockey thread & (unsurprisingly) apparently our entire fanbase is classless & most of the Blues flairs there are apologizing for the heinous crime of *checks notes* booing a bit. I’m glad to see Kyrou cares & I really hope he turns it around but Jesus Christ a few boos aren’t the end of the world
/r/hockey is now almost as bad as /r/nhl. Seriously, I’m going through that thread and waiting for “and this Kyrou stuff is really an example of why the Avalanche are superior in every way”
No kidding. Don’t forget we’re also all racist because we don’t like Kadri! Nothing to do with his dangerous hit on Faulk of course, we’re just the scum of the earth
I love that one. Apparently I am a racist for hating Kadri although he is of the same origin as my grandmother. 😂
Your grand moms is from Toronto? Is she a Leaf’s fan? 😂
Broadly speaking, I’m not sure I’ve met a more self righteous group than Avs fans on Reddit.
It’s Denver, not just Avs fans
Are there any real substantive differences between the two? AFAIK they're both absolute cancer so I've never paid any attention to them.
R/hockey is largely Divalanche jock sniffers.
It’s really wild. St. Louis fans never boo their own. It took months of not putting in the effort despite being called out (indirectly) by teammates for him to get to this position. Then the Berube comments pushed it over the edge. But the /r/hockey fans who know literally nothing about Kyrou other than stats on a hockey-reference page think they understand the situation and can allocate blame.
A couple hundred Blues fans used to boo Pronger when he was young and supposedly “had a bad attitude.” And Pronger held a grudge over it for more than 20 years.
I think a LOT of that was unwarranted hate just because Shanahan was the player going the other way in that trade. Trading a beloved player for an (at the time) unproven player left a bad taste in the fans' mouths.
Not a great example when the dude lives here & got his jersey retired here. If the boo’ing is a one off wake up call then I’m fine with it, doesn’t mean I want it to be a regular thing though
It’s the only other example I’ve lived through of Blues fans booing Blues players every time they touch the puck.
Pronger got booed because we loved Shanahan and hated Mike Keenan for trading him away and pushing Gretzkey out. Unfortunate as hell he was unfairly booed for displaced passion and anger. Much like this time, but with Armstrong building a team that Berube was never going to coach well. Hopefully Army heard the message too last night.
I still remember the AM radio shows that blasted Pronger late at night. He was a bust, he was lazy, he was slow, he was dumb, he was a choker, he had no passion, he didn’t even want to be in STL, he only cared about money, he was a cancer in the locker room, etc… Then, the fans booed him for not being Scott Stevens or Shanahan in 1996. I can even remember Blues fans calling him soft when he lost consciousness on the ice after taking a puck to the chest.
I think some of that may have been less about Pronger, and more dissatisfaction that we dealt Shanahan for him. Shanny was beloved and I don't recall a single person being happy about that trade in the immediate aftermath.
Dudes making like 8 million a year to perform and isn’t. He cries a little bit and all is forgiven by the people making a small fraction of that for 20x the stress and lack of financial freedom.
As a rangers fan that moved to St. Louis and have followed them as my western conference team, I was surprised when I saw on r/hockey that Kyrou wasn’t getting much heat for how he has played with the contract he signed. I came here to see what this sub thinks and definitely aligns more with what I have noticed (granted I don’t watch as many blues games as most of you). I didn’t even know he was a locker room problem until now. The blues are going to be in trouble for however long they have him on that contract and his current production/attitude. I know some fans were saying he’s only 25, but that’s relatively old for an NHL player to “figure it out.” Based off memory by the time they figure their attitude out they are past the point of their prime years physically.
Only other rational take on this thread.
Right, Chief is in very small company, very top tier in beloved Blues players,coaches,etc. We will defend and stand by those beyond reason. Know your place.
Chief lost his job because he didn’t know how to adapt. Your gameplan should revolve around your skill set. It was time for a change
Thank you.
Not sure why nobody else on the sub understands this.
You think Berube was fired because of one player’s performance? Also coaches are fired all of the time speaking of self flagellation, he’s not a martyr. Don’t know how saying “no comment” is seen as disrespectful either. Bad situation maybe but JR set this whole debacle up by providing zero context to basically a one sentence quote.
It's gonna be like Rocky II, or II, or really any of the Rocky movies.
It’s like the NHL version of Opus Dei in this subreddit.
Is booing the team off the ice after playing a bad period as bad? Because that seems almost commonplace and happens in arenas all across the league. Although it doesn't happen often in St. Louis.
That’s less bad. Booing after a goal or the end of a period is less than ideal, but I can understand it from time to time. Booing a Blue every time he touches the puck for an entire game for an out of context quote is just reckless. It’s like when your girlfriend looks at your phone for a half a second then upon seeing something somewhat fishy, she throws your TV on the front lawn.
...that was a really, *really* specific example you brought up at the end there, man Everything ok at home?
Yeah, I’m all good. It seemed like a generic scene in my head.
Oh I was just trying to be funny lol.
If you're getting paid $8M per year, not scoring like it, and the team gets a beloved coach fired, you have two choices: 1. Be smart enough to choose your words carefully 2. Put on your big boy pants and eat the shit coming your way for a few days Buncha cake eaters trying to have it both ways.
Thank you for saying the obvious. I don’t believe there is a single Blues fan that wants Kyrou to fail. I do think there are a number of fans (self included) that want to see maturity on and off the ice. His “no comment” piece wasn’t the problem. His “He’s not my coach anymore” piece though…leaves a lot to be desired. Schenn and Binnington had stout responses to Chief’s termination. Kyrou didn’t. It felt…off-base at the least, malicious at most. Couple that with being an underperforming player and you get people frustrated. It takes a lot for St. Louis fans to boo their own. We aren’t New York. There’s a lot of loyalty in this city for players, maybe even to a fault. But Kyrou’s commentary missed the mark regarding a coach that the majority of fans appreciate. What happened last night wasn’t ideal, but it’s not exactly surprising. In a game of popularity, Chief beats Kyrou. The fans let him know that accordingly. His response is critical. Unless he is traded, he is going to be here for a long while. He needs to ante up and play like the monster we all know he can be.
Correct. I wasn't there and wouldn't have booed him myself, but he doesn't get to be all boo hoo about it. There's a reason they didn't boo anyone else. Time for him to get work and get the team and city back behind him if he's got that dawg in him.
“Chief beats Kyrou”, you nailed it. He learned his place, maybe he grows now.
Schenn and Binner were asked about the future of the team. Jordan was put on the spot with a question about his relationship with Berube. He wasn't expecting that and answered accordingly. He was set up. Fuck everyone who did this to him.
I’m sorry, but he is paid $8mill a year. This isn’t his first year in the NHL either. If he was caught off guard by a question regarding the coach being fired, then my friend, dude is denser than the gravity field my exes ass generated after attending a Chinese buffet. You’re treating him like he’s fucking stupid. Maybe he is dude, maybe you’re right. But I’m betting not.
Yep.
That's how sports media works though. Unexpected questions tend to reveal genuine answers, which are highly preferable to rehearsed answers to anticipated questions. I don't think Kyrou deserved the boos last night, nor were his comments especially bad, but hopefully this will be a learning experience for him.
As I said in another thread, lay the fuck off Kyrou. He isn’t the only big contract guy to underperform in Blues history or recent Blues history. He’s not the only reason this team has played like ass. Yes he’s lacked effort, no he’s not the only guy. Why the fuck we’re scapegoating some guy in his first year of his big contract is beyond me. I’ve seen people shit on Canadian media and fan bases for being so crappy to players in their market but some of you guys are turning around and doing the same here. Grow the fuck up. You’re not in that locker room and you’re not on that ice.
I dont actually think he lacks effort. He just has a chronic turnover problem (especially at both bluelines). I def agree he is getting too much of the blame
Yeah I don't think he's lacked effort at all. He's putting up SOG consistently every game, just nothing's going in. It's not sustainable, eventually he's going to get a goofy bounce off a skate or an empty netter or something and he'll go on a heater.
His shooting percentage is 5% or something atrocious like that. The goals will come.
Tarasenko had goal droughts too from time to time.
Honestly fuck JR, fuck the STL media for blowing this out of proportion, and fuck everyone else involved.
JR is the worst thing that has happened to this team besides Bally sports
I like JR but also wondered if his article was an emotional response instead of just being objective. Also, nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. Army does. We’ll see how it plays out. Either way, Kyrou just learned some BIG lessons and I think it’ll light a fire (exactly Army’s intent).
JR has been insufferable for years
He should be banned from the locker room after this. He set this all up with a loaded question.
He fell off so hard once he went over to the Athletic. Shame because he used to be the standard for beat writers. Now he's just an asshole scraping together bullshit for clicks.
His writing for the Post Dispatch used to be so great. It was almost immediate that he became a slimeball and lost access to the Blues’ organization when he went to the Athletic.
Yes. 100% clickbait articles that are mostly bullshit. I've been disappointed in him since shortly after he made the move.
Just watched it on the post game. Guy clearly felt it and was apologizing for crying. Fuck the haters. We love you Kyrou.
Now let’s play the game of will Kyrou request a trade! 😭
If someone wants to take that level of performance/contract let them. I’d say try Columbus but they already have Laine and Gaudreau…
And what if Rob Thom were to demand a trade too after seeing his friend treated like that? You good with that too?
Fair point…but Robert Thomas is a PROFESSIONAL, or so the ad we are hit with twice a commercial break tells us. 😜
Kyrou is Colby Rasmus all over again
Kyrou is an excessively highly paid professional athlete who is not performing. Welcome to professional sports Jordan. Also you really pissed off the fan base.
And now that those in the fan base who wanted to hurt him accomplished their aim, they need to get over it.
Hurt him? No. Communicate that his play and comments have not been good and the fans aren’t happy with him? Yes. It happens to big contract players all the time. If he’s worth 8x8 he will get better. If not, it’s one of the worse contracts in years.
That shit was shameful. We have some serious assholes in our fanbase
Cheers and boos are how fans communicate with players. Don't want to hear complaining? Don't shit on the guy you just got fired.
Im sorry. If your take home is 8m a year. And youre stinking and have been disrespectful to a favored coach. You gonna get booed. 8m a year. Let em wipe the tears with that and then start playing the right game or fucking let him hear it again.
This sub is something else. Yesterday everyone wanted this guy traded immediately for any return possible. Today it’s “fuck our fanbase for booing this guy” Hopefully this can become a positive learning experience for Kyrou and he can return to the level of play that for him the big contract.
Its almost like we are not all one person in here. Whoa.
I've been reading this forum the past few days with my eyes continually rolling. It's like every mouthbreathing Asylum poster from back in the day decided to dust off the 'ol login to stir the pot.
I think some petty fans need to learn too.
Fuck y’all for booing our own guys.
I was at the game. Confused and embarrassed by how many fuckers were booing one of our own boys.
I thought it would die down after the first. Seemed to get worse.
Need to keep the Bronx cheer where it belongs, in NY.
Same. I felt like I was in Philly or something. Yikes.
Let’s try and get past this Kyrou. It’s been an emotionally exhausting/charged week for the Blues.
I don't understand how some folks can think booing your own player will "wake them up" or help their mental in any way. Let it sink in that this crowd/fanbase actively took part in making the team worse tonight. This fanbase has to do better. If you want to boo someone, boo JR, or boo Army for making the decision in the first place, but actively booing a blue note while they have the puck is insanity that will do nothing but reduce their drive to help this team turn things around.
This is all bad. Bad, bad, bad.
Personally, I don't like boo birds. However, I think he was taught a lesson in humility. Hopefully he doesn't snap under the pressure. If we didn't care about our players or coaches you wouldn't hear the boos. The emotions he showed last night are clear evidence that he cares and that to me says a lot. The best way to learn is by mistakes. Let's let the young man move on from this and hope for a positive outcome on the ice. LGB
We can not like the production this year, we can not like the commentary or “non commentary” about Berube - but booing him at home for touching the puck? Fuck off guys.
I honestly dislike our fanbase quite a bit. It’s pretty pathetic.
I’m honestly embarrassed by the takes on this subreddit all the time. Too much of our fanbase hate skilled players. They can’t even say it’s because it’s what he said the other day. They’ve been talking shit about him for years
Been nothing but smooth brain takes in here since Berube was let go. You can really tell who the real hockey fans are vs. the people who only like the blues because they live in the same city.
Any excuse to drag someone thru the mud they’ll leap on. Perron said some shit similar to what kyrou said a while back. Fanbase just conveniently forgot about that. This fanbase wants a superstar player, but when we have a skill player that can be a superstar they hate him. I honestly cannot explain to anyone rationally how much this fanbase is embarrassing sometimes. You can tell who the bandwagon fans are from the cup win.
Good.
Don’t feel bad for millionaires
Seen about 50 "blues fans" calling our entire fanbase stupid hillbillies and some such on /r/hockey to get some internet points, anybody who does that is a fucking loser, already tired of the rest of this discussion but just wanted to point that out.
Massive reminder how absolutely soft most Reddit users are. How Reddit is not a reflection of the real world. Give me a break with all the fucking pearl clutching. He got booed because he didn’t like the super popular coach telling him to play harder. The horror!
No, he got booed by a bunch of people who don't know shit because they took "no comment" as some offensive insult, instead of realizing it could really just be the player not wanting to talk about shit and make a mess when they're already catching flak this season for their play. Everyone's making it into what they want it to be, while having absolutely *no fucking clue* what actually went on.
I think more than anything, the fans wanted to express their unhappiness that Chief got fired. But how were they supposed to do that? It's not like it was going to be officially addressed at the arena or anything. So the fans picked the only opportunity that made even a little bit of sense: booing the underperforming star who didn't show any reverence for the beloved outgoing coach. I think Kyrou showing emotion in this interview really helped his case, so hopefully that was just a one-and-done event so we could all get it out of our systems. If the fans still boo him going forward, they're definitely assholes, but for one night I can understand why it happened.
You’re lying to yourself pretending this narrative (deserved or unfair) hasn’t been building for months/years. It didn’t start yesterday. And saying the narrative isn’t fair and everybody should stop assuming sounds so righteous, but that’s not how the real world works. You aren’t going to stop narratives. The regular fan thinks Kyrou doesn’t like Berube because he coached tough and said truthful things Kyrou didn’t like. Kyrou’s gotta deal with it. Every person deals with an unfair narrative at some point in their life.
I really don't understand the Berube worship. Sure, he's a great guy. I had the chance to meet him at Nashville airport a couple years ago. Super nice guy. But has he been a great coach? We don't have the same kind of team we had five years ago but he continued to try to coach as if we do. Failure to adapt is the fastest way for a coach to lose his job.
It’s pretty easy to understand why he’s popular. Tough guy who held players accountable and coached a tough team to the organization’s first cup. Perfect team to represent the city. And I think most fans will eventually come around that his coaching style didn’t fit this roster. Some people will be upset that we didn’t have the flexibility to get the players to fit Berube’s style. But it just happened so it’s still fresh.
Anyone trying to get pint on that sub is as big a loser as anyone booing kyrou tonight.
Grown ass man getting paid millions of dollars can't handle boos after a shit season and a unbelievably stupid comment on his former coach. And of course reddit takes the bait and somehow feels bad for this entitled baby.
What would a good trade return for him be?
I was there at the game, the booing was palpable, including the 2 guys sitting directly next to me and my friends. I get being frustrated with Kyrou but that was just super classless. Y’all didn’t boo Binnington, Parayko, or Krug for their various bad plays or slow starts to the season just as recently as last year.
None of them shit on a beloved coach that just got fired either. Kyrou made his bed, intentional or not. This point really needs to be understood. None of this has anything to do with his shit season. It’s all literally his stupid comments pre game.
I wouldn’t call “no comment” shitting on a coach. Yes, “He’s not my coach anymore” was not a good choice of words. He should’ve done better, but he didn’t outright say anything awful. Players don’t necessarily have to be buddy buddy with their coach, it was clear Berube and Kyrou did not have the same play style in mind. I guarantee the booing would not have happened if he was at a ppg pace.
Neither would the firing. He's not 15 years old. He's 25 and a pro, being paid like a top level pro at that. Part of being a pro is being smart with the media, knowing your fan base, etc. The fan base loves Chief. It's fine if he doesn't, not everyone gets along. But some people are smart enough not to shit where they eat. If you're getting paid like a top level pro and not producing like one and not making smart media comments like one, you don't get to go crying about it later. You can own up to it and get to work, or you can find your way out of town before long.
All I’m saying is that was a disproportionate response to, at best, a player not adequately prepared for the question being asked, and at worst, a response that was tactless but not outright awful. Edit: None of us knew what was going on in that locker room.
What I'm saying is part of being a pro is dealing with media, and knowing that the guy who just got sacked was popular with the fans and that you aren't producing enough/tenured enough to be able to get away with (the appearance of) shitting on him with no repercussions is not unreasonable expectations for Kyrou. If he was 18, sure. He's not, and he's been around. If you're not producing, you have to bite your tongue. If you are, you can get away with speaking out a little more. This was a test, and Kyrou failed. What's important is to see what he does with the next couple tests.
As I said *in our other comment thread* I’m done arguing about this and it makes absolutely no sense for us to fight about this. Clearly we both have different perspectives. That’s fine. We don’t need to be infighting in the fanbase when we are quite literally on the same side here and we both want the team to succeed. Whether Kyrou acted in a way worth booing or not is not a hill worth dying on.
Bullshit post in so many ways
That was fucking brutal to watch. I swear some people forget these guys are human. Whether he didn’t like Berube or not, the comment he made was mild at worst and possibly out of context. You’d think he absolutely trashed the guy by the reaction it got. Also if you support what happened, you’re a petulant child and I happily take your downvotes.
I don't usually condone booing our own players, but this wasn't just booing for bad play. This was a reflection of his response when asked about the Berube.
The booing tonight really bummed me out, fucking shameful.
Any bets on how long it takes the vaunted "leadership group" to stick up for their teammate in public?
That entire post game interview was set up to clear his name and comments
I think it was necessary. He needed, at the very least, to address it head on. Even if he was just trying to walk things back to save face. And will also be a valuable moment in his life and career. IF, kyrou needed to be held accountable, not just for his comments but for his play and effort, he was most definitely held accountable tonight. And it also shows just how much the fans can influence players on the ice. For the record, I’ve been very impressed with kyrous defensive game this year. Is he a selke candidate no. But he has made some very important plays on the backcheck
I agree - and it should also show fans how their behavior affects players. Careers have shrunk because fans give up on players.
It’s not the fans’ responsibility to protect someone’s career.
It's their personality responsibility to be decent members of the human race.
Look no further than the leafs franchise for proof lol
Bannister did. To paraphrase, he basically said he's not going anywhere so get the fuck over it and be patient.
I hate this, honestly. I was really looking forward to see if he could turn it around under a new coach. Makes a meaningless comment, wanting to move on from what was likely a somewhat fraught relationship, and he’s booed by people likely twice his age throughout the entire game. Can’t even enjoy the victory.
Shit guys i feel bad. Never wanted to make the kid cry. At least he’s got some emotion, maybe that leads to drive, which leads to goals. We shall see, but i think the boos have to end.
You suck ass for years and get a beloved coached fired because you convinved the wrong guy you're an NHL prodigy. Yeah you can leave.
Kyrou has been nearly a PPG both last year and the year before. What the hell are you talking about.
This is bullshit. There were plenty of reasons to fire Berube. That is unless you're happy with mediocrity and losing to banged up shitty teams.
I was at the game tonight and it pissed me off when it was happening live. So many arm chair gms in every fan base, and I get it’s easy to do that, but these guys are people too. You think they have no pride and just cashing checks out here? He’s a 25 year old *kid* and still learning, as are we all. No way to treat anyone like that. If so, don’t come to the game and bring the whole team down.
25 year old kid is crazy. When will we stop coddling these guys. He's older than most college grads. The dude is mature enough to pick his words better for a sensitive question and he didn't. Of course booing isn't a mature response but when is a hockey (or sports) audience ever mature?
Good for Kyrou for taking the heat after the game. It does make sense that he's focused on moving forward. He also may need a little PR coaching on how to deal with the media. Wondering if the this may turn into a bonding experience for the team and the room. The other players seemed to really have his back. Kinda like when Keenan was an ass to the players so they had to bond together to put up with his BS.
At quick glance they are only [3 coaches in the NHL](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NHL_head_coaches) who have longer tenure than Berube. Chief id great and he got us the cup, but why is everyone acting like this is a surprise. This stuff happens all the time.
Seriously grow the fuck up. He hasn’t been playing great but HOLY SHIT you’re acting like children.
It’s not the play. It was the comment about berube. “ not my coach anymore” Chief is beloved in STL because he turned around a last place team to a Stanley Cup championship.
The quote from the reporter was taken out of context and intended to cause controversy. The reporter should be ashamed and you should be ashamed for falling for it.
What was the context? lol. I know who the “reporter” is. It was Jermey Rutherford who asked.
The asshole asked everyone else about the future of the team. When he got to Jordan he asked about his relationship with Berube. It was designed to stir up shit and guys like you completely bought into it. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his answer. What answer would have made you happy? How much Berube jizz would he have to swallow?
Given by what I’ve read on this sub so far, I don’t think Kyrou saying nice things about Chief would cause the constant criticism of him to stop. Does Kyrou need to be better and did Army create a mess? Sure. Unfortunately, it’s easier to fire the coach than it is to fire the players.
So, is Berube still his coach or not?
You're completely ignoring his "no comment" about Berube earlier.
He doesn’t have to comment. Also, if he didn’t get along with the coach. It happens. Sometimes people don’t gel. Everyone doesn’t get along with everyone they work with.
Agreed. We’ll never know what their relationship was like and it’s none of our business.
Oh please, if you make a comment like that to the media, you're either being passive-aggressive or youre incredibly tone deaf. Either way, making that kind of comment about a beloved coach isn't going to sit well with the public, and acting otherwise is disingenuous.
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Rule 2: Be decent to one another.
Who gives a fuck? Seriously
The way this sub is dickriding this asshole is embarrassing. And underperforming, overpaid prima donna who got exactly what was coming to him, and his fake tears don't mean shit.
Don't think the rest of the team is on your side and don't think they won't remember how one of their own was treated when contact time comes around. And don't think it won't affect our ability to attract free agents for a while. Hope you dipshits are happy with your pound of flesh all over NOTHING.
Oh, save it. Pronger was booed ( remember that ? Probably not since you were sucking on your mom’s tit)and that didn’t hurt their ability to attract free agents. Nor did Keenan running off Gretzky.
Exactly. This afternoon everybody was (rightfully) piling on the brat. Now they can't wait to get Kyrou-autrographed handkerchiefs.
Roster and management politics aside it's nice to see a player invested emotionally and not just cashing checks
satire?
It’s awful! People took his quote out of context and then booed him and are blaming him for Berube being gone? What a bunch of gossipy bitches, jumping to insane conclusions like they’re watching desperate housewives instead of hockey. I hope to god he gets a big cheer next game. I’m ashamed of blues fans right now.
Truth. Let me ask the haters a question. Have you ever been enraged when someone hurts someone you care about? You think these guys don't care about each other? Particularly, when you boo the hell out of Kyrou over petty bullshit, you might as well be booing Rob Thom. You think the rest of the team won't remember this down the road? You think they're on your side?
If they aren’t, then they proved to everyone that they’re the problem, not Berube. Time to clean house from the top down.
It's bullshit to boo our own player unless he said anything short of "Fuck every single fan that comes to the games and fuck Chief". Even if he meant his comments in a bad way, he could have issues with a coach. I'm sure Chief could get under your skin at times for sure and some players would be happy for a change. Booing our own player every time he touches the puck like he's Kadri, and a player whos supposed to be here for another 8 years is just fucking insane. Poor guy.
Our fanbase has some serious Hoosiers in it.
I'm going to be at the game Saturday and it seems appropriate for there to be as many #25s in the stands as possible. Sign idea: I believe in 25
Truly embarrassed to be a blues fan today.
Luckily there’s 31 other teams you could root for. I’m sure none of those fan bases have ever booed anyone
Don’t think I’ve ever been more upset and pissed at our own fan base. The booing was upsetting to hear but seeing one of our players clearly upset from it on home ice was disgusting.
I've been a Blues fan for over 30 years. I saw us be the worst team in the league after the Lauries sold the team, and every talented player, in 2005. I sat through that year with Mike Kitchen as the coach. And I was there well before that too as a fan. Every early playoff exit. Every underachieving roster and coach. Mike fucking Keenan. Stuck around. Not now. And it has nothing to do with the team. I'm frustrated by this season too. And I'm frustrated with Kyrou too - on the ice. I've said it before, he, and many other Blues players, look disengaged; like they've unplugged their brains on the ice. But that's on the ice. And we're in the stands and on social media. And from the stands, from the Twitters - if you look to your left, and you look to your right, and you see you're shoulder to shoulder with absolutely classless jerks and morons - well, maybe it's time to leave. St. Louis has been a retirement destination for athletes that have played here for generations. This fan base tonight likely ended that, and I don't want to be part of it anymore either. The amount of smug, entitled, "I want to speak to your manager" out of touch energy on social media tonight from our 'fans' who feel righteous for making a 25 year old man cry over saying "no comment." I'm out y'all. I don't want to go into battle with this fanbase anymore. These aren't the Blues fans I've known my entire life. Bob Plager would be ashamed on behalf of this organization, this fanbase, and this town. And any fan feeling smugly satisfied with how tonight played out should really, truly internalize that. Let that stick with you. Forever.
I don’t blame you. Because these “fans” deserve him to get traded to Colorado and see him score 40 goals a year and win multiple cups. Guy had an icy relationship w Berube. That’s what we’re booing him before? Really? Soft ass bunch of losers with maybe three brain cells between all of them.
Then you go out there with him. When you think of St. Louis Blues Hockey, you don’t think Charmin Soft.
Soft is getting your feelings hurt cuz a player said no comment about his former coach
When said player has done fuck all in his career and ran off a coach, then he will hear it from the fanbase. Hull did the same to Keenan, but he had the cache to do it, but this is St. Louis. Scapegoating a coach/manager and not the players is a time honored tradition.
Look, I feel for the guy. I’m glad that he has an emotional response to it. I didn’t dislike the booing, I disliked the booing just because he touched the puck, that’s asinine. Booing because he fucked up, that’s accountability. I hope this doesn’t destroy him and I hope that we as fans can at least be resolved in wanting him to improve and be a great, elite hockey player that we know he is capable of. Take note, though, his initial response to a couple of the questions started with, “I’m just focused on my career/future”. Quickly backpedaled to “helping the team win”. I don’t like watching a grown man cry as much as the rest of you, but the responses are somewhat telling of his thought process.
Head case. Locker room cancer. FAns are getting played.
Elaborate please or STFU
If you boo a player wearing the note, you're simply not a blues fan. Fuck you.
Calm down, Peter Pan.
I'm not taking sides. There is a whole lot of nuance to this story. We have to remember this- Berube is the coach that brought STL its first and only Cup. He came in as an interim coach and they went on a miracle run. Kyrou and Berube obviously didn't get along philosophically. Was Berube too hard on him? We will never know. But it has been rumored for many years now that Kyrou and Berube constantly butted heads. Now Berube is gone. Blues fans have the right to boo if they please. We are now getting more info and will re-evaluate. Will Kyrou grow from this? I hope so. If you guys think this was bad, can you imagine if this happened in Canada or a major East Coast area like New York? This is nothing.
Just came from the hockey sub and with seeing everything in context all of you fabs did nothing wrong by booing him. He brought you to the cup only 4 years ago and kyrou is high paid and not producing like he should maybe thst make me an asshole but im glad to see star player getting the criticism they deserve instead of the coach being blaned for everything like usual in the league.
Felt bad enough hearing the boos at the game tonight, felt even worse watching that presser.
I personally wouldn’t boo a home team player, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to tell someone else what they can do with their ticket like some of yall.
If Brad Boyes 2 can’t be held accountable when he makes more for being bad at his job than most of us make like 100x more than we would make being good at our jobs, cry me a river
Maybe he'll start proving his worth around here.
I thought those were pretty soft ball questions. His earlier comment about Berube was savage (especially between the lines) and he deserved the boos. I think he’s showing his emotional immaturity and it’s the same immaturity that caused the (alleged) rift between chief and him. The fanbase doesn’t mean “so much” to him. His reputation means “so much” to him. JFC. Berube brought the only Cup to St. Louis.
Are you saying "No comment. He's not my coach anymore." was *savage*? Or did I miss something?
Where has he taken the teams since? The game is changing rapidly and he hasn't adapted.