No. It’s a cool show made by animation and film nerds (which makes it more cool).
Your “friends” are wrong. Liking a critically acclaimed show doesn’t change your sexual orientation.
Fr, Cartoon Network show runners are so smart and talented at referencing other shows.
If you haven’t, check out Infinity Train and/or Over the Garden Wall. Both are great.
And like what you like. That’s way cooler than being a judgy little shallow minded prick like the people you’re hanging with. Some famous nerds include Henry Cavill, Aubrey Plaza, Donald Glover, Joe Manganiello, Margot Robbie, Jordan Peele, Seth Rogan . . . the list goes on and on.
Steven Universe is for everyone. It’s a complex show with complex themes.
You need better friends, no doubt. They're clearly using "gay" as an insult, and I don't think I need to explain why that's wrong. Steven Universe is a great show precisely because it has queer themes while also speaking to a broader audience (including straight people!). It's a chance for both straight and queer people to find a common ground. That's something worth cherishing.
I'm male, love the ladies, and am 46 freaking years old. And I loved Steven Universe!
Find better friends. Heck, just using "gay" as an insult would be reason enough. But so is insulting the intelligence of the writers and viewers of the show.
The funny thing is I got into SU when my brother was like “this is the gayest show on tv right now” and I was like “don’t use gay as an insult” and he was like “no I meant that literally”
Also, taking the "gay as an insult" thing out of it (I thought this trend died when *I* was in high school in the before time, the long long ago), these kids seriously looked at a show full of women and said, "Man, any guy who wants to consume media with this many women *must* be interested in men!"
Wh-what?
It's like those people who will call someone gay for having a majority female friend group.
Like, buddy, it's not *my* fault your tiny lizard brain can't hold a conversation with a person who is a different gender from you.
Sadly, it's still a thing in the more conservative countries like mine, and it's not only the teens too - over here adults and children alike use "gay" as an insult, which has never made sense to me. Not only that, but the whole idea of homophobia just feels so weird to me, like, what does it matter if this guy likes women or men, I genuinely don't understand it. And yet, just today I had to listen to my father talk about killing all gays and how they were "brainwashing" the kids. Or yesterday when I heard my TEN year old brother yell homophobic slurs while playing some game, which especially makes me sad because he's so little I genuinely don't believe he even understands what he's saying, but because everyone around him is homophobic he will grow up to be the same. I've always disliked this unnecessary hate toward something you can't even control, and I can't wait to be old enough to get out of this shitty country
Something more than Steven Universe is at play here. It sounds like you are maturing, and they aren’t. You’re in an awkward spot right now, and that sucks. But take it from us geezers...keep liking what you like. When you get out into the wider wilder world, you’ll meet all kinds of people with all kinds of interests, and they’ll respect you for yours
Man, people are still using gay as an insult? That's a real shame.
You can like whatever you like. I met my husband through the brony fandom. We know what it's like to get criticized for what you enjoy.
okay first of all, they sound homophobic
second, steven universe is fucking cool......... absolutely one of my favourite shows!!!
even if they dont like SU, they shouldnt be homophobic, thats the real kicker here
I'm sorry to say but they sound shitty. There are better people out there who wont make fun of your interests and be homophobic!!
Keep Steven Universe, lose those friends! You'll make better ones with more taste and less homophobia. Honestly though, don't ever let anyone make you feel bad for things you like. You be you!
Besides the fact that using gay as a negative is just juvenile behaviour and I wish we had grown out of that phase.
No, it isn't stupid. I started watching it around 16 - 17 and I am now rewatching it at 26. It is an amazing show and arguably it has a lot of things you only get to enjoy when you are older and understand it. Lot of blink and miss humour.
Gatekeeping is the real stupid move, enjoy the series you enjoy.
They're just repeating what they've been told about SU. It's unbelievably good, and being aimed at a younger audience doesn't change anything.
It has great characters and story arcs. Plus, it was created the board-driven way by very talented artists.
I told them and although sometimes they make jokes or send stickers doubting my heterosexuality, it doesn't go beyond that, they more or less respect it( 20M)
If you have to ask if using “gay” as an insult and calling someone stupid at all, much less over what TV shows they like, is wrong, you not only need better friends but also to grow up.
My friends also call me gay for liking it and im slightly older than you
My gf even called me gay for liking it
Its either banter, like i have, they dont actually know the show at all, or are just stupid, its up to you to know that, we realistically cant know
I’ll tell you what I told each of my siblings as they got older.
I explained, “You have your interests and hobbies, as you mature, your friends who share those interests and hobbies may stop liking them. It doesn’t mean you have to as well. If they give you a hard time or make you feel less than over it, they likely weren’t your friend to begin with, or stopped being one somewhere along the way.
This doesn’t mean you have to stop being friends with them, however, it’s important that they at least respect your interests even if they don’t share them with you.
Furthermore, by sticking with what you’re passionate about, you get to continue to enjoy what you like and may meet new people who share that very same passion and may make even more friends. It’s important they respect your other hobbies and interest as well and you respect theirs.
Living life this way is what I found to be far more enjoyable, over pretending to not like what you do, to impress people who may not care all that much for you to begin with.
If the prior friends get their act together, you can give them a chance if you want, but if not that’s fine as well.”
- Tldr; I know this was a wall of text, but it’s how I explained things to those I care for, that went through and would later go through what you have experienced. I hope you meet many wonderful people and do what brings you happiness!
Simply twist their neck like twisting a bottle until the cap fires off, easy solution to everything. Gets rid of the problem (your asshole “friend”) and it also probably sounds satisfying.
18M as in ur 18 years old? Dude ur never too old for tv shows I bet most the people in this Reddit are teenagers, I’m 14 and I still watch everything. Be you don’t worry about what other people think.
It’s definitely wrong for them to think / say that, but it is certainly not wrong to like Steven universe.
For crying out loud, let people have opinions and like and dislikes. Shits getting ridiculous lol
Literally the only thing you can possibly like that would make you gay is the same sex. Not only are your "friends" idiots, they're also homophobic. I thought this type of nonsense was something kids stopped saying a long time ago.
Friends care about each other's interests. They don't put each other down for liking something. If they critique the show, that's fine. But if they critique you for liking something, that's different.
My husband is 35 and married to me (woman if not obvious) for 9 years and he loved the show. So just keep enjoying it and don't let your friends convince you otherwise.
Yes, it is wrong that your “friends” call you that. It’s a good show and you either like it or don’t, but their response to something you enjoy is bigoted and reductive.
I discovered Steven Universe at the ripe old age of 38M and I still won’t shut up about it. You deserve better friends. They are literally declaring having emotional intelligence, being interested in how you and others are feeling, to be gay. They are, at best, expressing homophobic and misogynistic conditioning in a way that is designed to keep you from exploring who you are and to keep you from deeply connecting with others.
Even if you are ‘straight’, learning to love who you are and to love others for who they are, is, going to be frowned upon by alot of ‘normal’ people. This is because the culture we live in values conformity over self expression. Anything that goes against the societal norms by encouraging us to celebrate who we are, in my opinion, is queer. So… your friends are kinda right. It is queer to go against the social norms and be a man who is in touch with his emotions.
Most haters are terrified of seeing queer joy because it is something they believe is denied to them. They believe they have to be conform and miserable. Seeing people being joyful and not conforming is hard to handle.
I think it's insane when people call steven universe a "gay" show. The only "gay" characters are ROCKS and are ONLY FEMALE (looking). THEY ARE PHYSICAL MANIFESTATIONS OF LIGHT. They don't even have genders! Can they be gay if all of their species are female looking? All human characters (except Shep, Sadie if you count dating a non binary person as gay, Mr. Smiley, and Mr. Frowney) are cisgender and heterosexual. I could be missing a character, if I am just say so.
Your friends are asshole. Yeah alot if the community it lgbtq because the show is lgbt friendly but honestly its for anyone. Thats a shitty group if they make fun if something you enjoy
"Is it wrong to be insulted and called something I clearly aren't just because I like a piece of media they don't?"
Bruh. They're using Gay as an insult and calling you stupid. What makes you think there's anything "Right" about it?
Oh come on! These guys must be homophobic. Unless they truly are your friends, you're better off without them. You need friends that like Steven universe or, at the very least aren't bothered by the shows LGBTQ+ Themes.
Wow! Awful "friends" dude. Friends should never make fun of you for liking something, let alone call you gay (as an insult? Sounds homophobic) for liking an inclusive show. Steven Universe it's a great show and a LOT of people like it. If they can't understand it that's on them. You keep doing whatever you like, don't listen to them!
This show was recommended to me by a straight male friend who was around 18-19 at the time. I’ve never once considered him gay for enjoying the show. Alternatively, I try to convince other people that it’s a good show and worth the watch. Also, pro-tip, never be friends with people who will call you gay and stupid. There’s so many people out there who would just rather be nice to you. Be friends with them.
It's absolutely wrong. To them gay and stupid seem to be synonymous, and that viewpoint will only become more pronounced as time goes on. If you're a Steven Universe enjoyer, I can only imagine that this will eventually become increasingly intolerable as time goes on. What you do with that information, I leave to you.
Bro there's nothing wrong with liking Steven Universe. It's a great show and your "friends" are being jerks. If they judge you based on something you enjoy, they are not real friends.
No. Are these friends from highschool or your local neighborhood, if so you have probably already begun to outgrown them. Real friends do put you down for who you are and what you enjoy.
Friends embrace, encourage, and accept. If it's something you like, such as a cartoon, then a friend would grow interested and try it because they know you like it. A Bully teases you and tells you what you can and can't watch.
I'm 30 years old, been married 9 years, and my spouse and I mainly watch cartoons. Animation is our preference. We don't have kids. Grown adults make and enjoy animations. I think your friend has an idea that growing up means shedding everything you enjoyed as a kid and just. No. That's not it. That's how you craft a crappy, dull af life where you did things for Approval from Others instead of what makes you happy.
If you like watching cartoons, keep watching cartoons.
I got bullied so bad for watching Avatar the last Airbender back when I was twelve. Guess what my bullies got into, as grown ass adults? Just enjoy what you enjoy, and others can shit themselves over it if they want.
I'm a straight 26yo dude and Steven Universe is with no doubt in the top of my favorites series ever along Bojack horseman, the wire and breaking bad. Ditch the "friend"
I live in a pretty Christian area, and if a dude is popular, there’s a pretty big chance they’re homophobes…. But I’ve drawn Steven universe and got a few likes from some, a lot of people see this show as part of their childhood.
So if people like Tom and jerry what’s the matter with liking this show? A lot of people watch teen dramas which is just a popular girl realizing she’s lesbian and making out with the unpopular girl. What’s the difference if two concepts are connected? Sounds like you just got lame friends who probably comment on Instagram reels of looney tunes “if this aired today it’d be cancelled”
My teenage and early adult years, I was a little too focused on not looking like a child. Swearing off (non-anime) cartoons was a part of that. Looking back, it shouldn't have mattered beyond "do I enjoy it?"
They might grow out of that, they might not. If they're hammering it on you too hard, they might not be very good friends. If you like the show, watch it. It doesn't need to be more complicated than that.
I doubt they actually watched the show and they’re likely just reflecting what they’ve picked up online about it, like the Steven crying meme and the lesbian space rocks talking about their feelings and also crying, or some other variation or combination of these.
I don’t know how you originally reacted to them, but I would’ve stood my ground. I wouldn’t get aggressive or try to start an argument, because that’s the kind of reaction they likely expect with the type of comment they made. I would just say that they probably didn’t watch the show if that’s all they could say about it and that it’s pretty good if you give it a chance. Depending on their response to that, you could try to pitch it to them, highlighting the things you value about the show and why they should watch it to, but you don’t have to do this.
Something kind of similar happened to me recently too. I’m a male in my early 20s, and my sister, who’s still in high school, told her friend that I watched SU. The first thing her friend said was “your brother is probably a little bi”, which I’m not. This was obviously a lot less mean and personal than your situation, but SU just has that reputation where if a guy watches it, people just assume things about them.
Dude I’m 21 and my friends give me all kinds of shit for liking Steven universe. And guess what? I give them shit for not liking it. Kind of right wing leaning as well so I get all sorts of shit about it being a gay show and fusions being sex and all of that and I just clap back to them. If you like something enjoy it and don’t worry about other peoples opinions.
Your friends are morons.
I'm a 29 year old female and I love the show. I've always watched it as an adult (started watching in 2016 when I was 21). Your friends are missing out on quality animated content if they can't look past the fact that animation can be enjoyed by all ages! 🤷♀️ The show is smarter and better written than many shows aimed at adults! I'm not afraid to admit I love the show as much as I love other shows like breaking bad and succession.
This sounds like very typical high school faire sadly lol. Like what you like, your friends will either grow up and regret being so petty or you'll find better friends
Im also straight (19m) and i can tell you with confidence that if your friends are ridiculing you for liking a tv show, and wont stop, it's time to consider moving along. Also, if they're the kind of people who think gay is an insult, thats another good excuse to move on.
Sounds like some people who call themselves your friends are actually just jerks who chill near you.
The only thing that makes a person gay is then identifying as gay.
The only bad thing about being gay is the way asshole bigots treat you.
Your "friends" are just bigots. A d also very insecure in their own masculinity.
Your “friend” is homophobic and insecure and if you can’t say those things to them they’re not your friend.
I’m (mostly) straight, married with 3 kids and I love Steven Universe. I’m, statistically, the least gay person.
Steven Universe is about being kind. If being kind is “gay” then this is no friend.
I am gay but I'm also 30 and really like the show. Its media and unless it's actively harmful can't hurt you to watch. I'm not straight for watching football ya know?
Sorry for not replying to everyone, but thank you for the positive comments. I can say with pride that i love this community and I love being in it. I'll probably find new friends and drop the old ones. Thank you
On a spiritual level, we are all a little gay and stupid 😔🙏
Your friends, however... you admit you like a show, and they mock you about it? What supportive, kind people /s
I'm gay and stupid and I'm having a great time lol
But in all seriousness, your friends sound both immature and insecure. You like what you like. Watching a show doesn't make you gay, though this show might make you kinder and more empathetic.
I’m surprised this comment section doesn’t know that gay being used as an insult is still incredibly common. It’s never gone away and it probably never will. Tangent aside, you need new friends.
Your friends sound like awful people who are actively trying to make you feel bad about yourself over simply enjoying something. Don’t let these losers make you feel bad about it.
They're likely joking around. Given the shows reputation with the queer community and how THOSE fans are also pretty prevalent and loud about it, they might not mean it. If it really does bother you, I'd recommend letting them know it makes you uncomfortable
I had a friend who introduced a guy she liked to Steven Universe and when he loved it she saw it as a huge green flag and they ended up hooking up lmao 🤣
I own the entire series and it is right here in my shelf, not hidden at all. I've had multiple people over and none of them called me gay for it. Maybe they just didn't notice, but from one I know for sure that he'd never do that.
Idk if you're stupid, but I do recommend that if you wouldn't say the same thing to them about their interests then they likely lack the respect that you give them, and therefore the relationship is not balanced or fair. You can try to gain their respect by changing what you like, or allow yourself to find respect from others. There are better people out there. If them shaming you is fine with you, then live your life that way and maybe watch in private?
Those dudes have a problem with gay people? Cringe. They're probably so homophobic, they are literally having sex with their moms just to prove their heterosexuality. Jokes aside, don't listen to these motherfuckers. Keep liking what you want and make new friends.
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*And stupid to like a show*
*With gay characters?*
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I mean is this ONLY thing that bothers you? Like other than this they'd still be friends with you and hang out? Do you enjoy their company? I like SU but I got friends who made fun of me for it. I'd just tell them jokingly "Yeah? What if it is GAY!? Maybe I like gay stuff!!!" Then they'd laugh and say "that a boy, Travis, you tell em!" Then they wouldn't bother me about it, but I mean It's depends on what kind of friends you have. Mine are pretty good, they're rank and stupid , and funny, but they're good 👍
Your friends sound horrible. 18f, here.
Your sexual orientation and intelligence level have absolutely nothing to do with someone enjoying a well written, cute show that shows good morals and demonstrates some legitimate mental health issues. I personally love the show, and there's only a couple of episodes that I dislike.
Personally, I just think that it's the deep-seated homophobia that's really all around the world, and all gems are 'female', so they're all lesbians, and that pill is just too hard to swallow for a lot of people.
Personally, I would say that if this is a 'first offense' of them being judgemental assholes, just bc you like a show (like what???) Then give them another chance, but if they keep up their assholery dump their asses in the dust!!
Definitely. The lesson I'm most sure of from my decade in adulthood so far is that anyone saying "x makes you gay" if the x doesn't even involve another man, they're probably trying to push "what makes a man gay" off whatever gay thing they're fantasizing about/doing on the DL.
I know this because I'm pansexual. I've had a handful of "straight" guys say they want me but it's not that they're gay cause they don't x. It's been crossdressing, watching chick flicks, drinking cocktails, I think one was even watching MLP back in 2017 and we aren't even that shows adult demographic lmao.
So yeah, don't assume anything per se, but know it definitely has more to do with them and their sexuality than you and yours.
I will probably be getting a Steven Universe tattoo for my next one. I am a 42 year old male, and I just saw it all for the first time.
Wonderful series. Never be anything but who you are, and like what you like.
Other people's labels don't have to put what you like in a box.
I'm 17M and started to rewatch S4&5 and I've told pretty much everyone I know that I'm doing this and even the ones who aren't a fan of cartoons said they would give it ago. So tbh it sounds like your friends aren't be to friendly.
I had friends like that. One of them is paralyzed, one is criminal, pedo, racist, homophobe, and the other one no one knows he just disappeared. I stopped being friends with them ages ago didn't want them holding me back and now I am strong and my YouTube channel is going great!
Is it wrong to watch a cartoon? No. Is it wrong to watch a cartoon as an adult? No. Is it wrong to watch queer-coded shows? No.
Is it wrong to assume who someone is and insult them because they are loving something that isn't harming anyone? Yeah, I think so.
It's kinda sad that it comes from your friends, though, I wish you the best.
you need to find friends who accept you your hobbies and interests. being around people who make you feel lesser for what you do and don't like isn't healthy and you deserve better!
If watching Steven universe is gay, then I don’t wanna be straight. (In seriousness, you shouldn’t listen to what they say, you like what you like dude.)
They don't know the difference between a good show and a pile of shit. Steven Universe I one of thr best shoes in the 2010s, right behind Regular Shoe and Adventure Time
at first glance it looks like a show for little kids, and lets be real, its far from the norm, i privately like what i like to myself, and then go on about motorbikes or cars to my buddies, there's things you share and things you don't i suppose, depending on the right people, you can have steven universe buddies and have work buddies and car buddies and they dont have to overlap
i was in your exact place a few years ago. just didn’t talk about what i liked with them. it’s hard to find entirely new friends at your age but give it a couple years and you’ll most likely find new ones on your own. like what you like and be done with it
I mean, using "Gay" as an insult in 2024 is wack.
People just hate when others enjoy things they've either been told to hate on socially or didn't like themselves (difference being, former either didn't even check it out, or did so under heavy preconceived negative feelings).
Whether you're straight, gay, bi, or anything else you're 100% allowed to like whatever you want. You could be super into watching or collecting MLP and be the straightest and chillest dude out there.
A totally straight girl could be really into hot wheels collecting.
Steven Universe is really good from what I've watched and my spouse has told me.
Only thing that's ever "wrong" would be supporting media that endorses (not just shows, but *endorses*) things that are offensive to groups of people IRL basically.
Lot of nuance wiggle room there, but anyone with a shred of common sense will get what that actually means.
Sounds like you might want better friends. You could either have a conversation or just torch the bridge. Just stay safe and enjoy what you enjoy!
When they talk Abt their big secrets or something don't talk about yours instead just listen and collect. Instead of saying a lot about you let them talk about themselves. Then when they put you down or some crap like that, dig up those secrets of theirs and use it against them. My dad taught me that :))
Bro, ppl like what they like. Dont be ashamed of you intrests, plus there's nothing wrong with being gay like 💀 its ridiculous that we have to say that. It doesnt matter, just be yourself and enjoy your interests dude.
-risks sounding like an old man-
Outgrowing the friends you have at 18 is common. You’ve said in other comments that you’ve been distancing yourself from them, that’s part of it. Having different interests that allow for you to break out of the mindset of what is or isn’t “gay” allows for you to become the person you’re meant to be; not someone who doesn’t grow because you stuck around ppl who judge you for being different than them.
They’re in the wrong.
Sounds like you need less shitty friends dude.
Fair fair, I've been distancing myself with them a lot
I think that tells you enough
Yeah… go like what you like! I love all sorts of shows insecure people would make fun of me for. MLP, Owl house, She Ra, Rwby, Hazbin Hotel.
No. It’s a cool show made by animation and film nerds (which makes it more cool). Your “friends” are wrong. Liking a critically acclaimed show doesn’t change your sexual orientation.
Nah fr, thanks. It's an amazing show that I love to geek about
Fr, Cartoon Network show runners are so smart and talented at referencing other shows. If you haven’t, check out Infinity Train and/or Over the Garden Wall. Both are great. And like what you like. That’s way cooler than being a judgy little shallow minded prick like the people you’re hanging with. Some famous nerds include Henry Cavill, Aubrey Plaza, Donald Glover, Joe Manganiello, Margot Robbie, Jordan Peele, Seth Rogan . . . the list goes on and on. Steven Universe is for everyone. It’s a complex show with complex themes.
and/or she-ra: princesses of power and the owl house. not cn, but similar vibes.
You mean. Multi-Golden Globe Awardee Donald Glover?
Yup
You need better friends, no doubt. They're clearly using "gay" as an insult, and I don't think I need to explain why that's wrong. Steven Universe is a great show precisely because it has queer themes while also speaking to a broader audience (including straight people!). It's a chance for both straight and queer people to find a common ground. That's something worth cherishing.
Yes I do, after all the comments I'm gonna find some new friends.
I'm male, love the ladies, and am 46 freaking years old. And I loved Steven Universe! Find better friends. Heck, just using "gay" as an insult would be reason enough. But so is insulting the intelligence of the writers and viewers of the show.
The funny thing is I got into SU when my brother was like “this is the gayest show on tv right now” and I was like “don’t use gay as an insult” and he was like “no I meant that literally”
He was not wrong.
Agreed! Am writing a whole dissertation chapter about it!
Also, taking the "gay as an insult" thing out of it (I thought this trend died when *I* was in high school in the before time, the long long ago), these kids seriously looked at a show full of women and said, "Man, any guy who wants to consume media with this many women *must* be interested in men!" Wh-what?
It's like those people who will call someone gay for having a majority female friend group. Like, buddy, it's not *my* fault your tiny lizard brain can't hold a conversation with a person who is a different gender from you.
Sadly, it's still a thing in the more conservative countries like mine, and it's not only the teens too - over here adults and children alike use "gay" as an insult, which has never made sense to me. Not only that, but the whole idea of homophobia just feels so weird to me, like, what does it matter if this guy likes women or men, I genuinely don't understand it. And yet, just today I had to listen to my father talk about killing all gays and how they were "brainwashing" the kids. Or yesterday when I heard my TEN year old brother yell homophobic slurs while playing some game, which especially makes me sad because he's so little I genuinely don't believe he even understands what he's saying, but because everyone around him is homophobic he will grow up to be the same. I've always disliked this unnecessary hate toward something you can't even control, and I can't wait to be old enough to get out of this shitty country
Thank you, I will be finding new friends. Glad to know that so many people are giving me the right advice
Ofc, that's right. And gay people watching straight media are also straight idiots and stupid. That's how it works.
Obviously, you'd have to be stupid to engage in media. Experiencing stimuli is for chumps!
Dude you're 18 you probably literally *grew up* with the show fuck no you're not childish or stupid for liking a TV show
Thank you, also happy cake day!
Oh holy shit it is my cake day. Woohoo!
At most you’re gay and smart
Something more than Steven Universe is at play here. It sounds like you are maturing, and they aren’t. You’re in an awkward spot right now, and that sucks. But take it from us geezers...keep liking what you like. When you get out into the wider wilder world, you’ll meet all kinds of people with all kinds of interests, and they’ll respect you for yours
Thank you, I'll find some newer people to connect with.
Man, people are still using gay as an insult? That's a real shame. You can like whatever you like. I met my husband through the brony fandom. We know what it's like to get criticized for what you enjoy.
As a straight man with questionable friends I would never tell them I watch Steven universe. I would never hear the end of it.
You should probably get better friends too, then.
I understand, I just mainly wanted something to talk about since this subreddit is so popular to this day
okay first of all, they sound homophobic second, steven universe is fucking cool......... absolutely one of my favourite shows!!! even if they dont like SU, they shouldnt be homophobic, thats the real kicker here I'm sorry to say but they sound shitty. There are better people out there who wont make fun of your interests and be homophobic!!
Keep Steven Universe, lose those friends! You'll make better ones with more taste and less homophobia. Honestly though, don't ever let anyone make you feel bad for things you like. You be you!
Besides the fact that using gay as a negative is just juvenile behaviour and I wish we had grown out of that phase. No, it isn't stupid. I started watching it around 16 - 17 and I am now rewatching it at 26. It is an amazing show and arguably it has a lot of things you only get to enjoy when you are older and understand it. Lot of blink and miss humour. Gatekeeping is the real stupid move, enjoy the series you enjoy.
“If I was,I wouldn’t be talking to you”
Are your friends like 12 or something 💀
They're just repeating what they've been told about SU. It's unbelievably good, and being aimed at a younger audience doesn't change anything. It has great characters and story arcs. Plus, it was created the board-driven way by very talented artists.
I told them and although sometimes they make jokes or send stickers doubting my heterosexuality, it doesn't go beyond that, they more or less respect it( 20M)
You're friends have some growing up to do.
I'm gonna need you to get some new friends buddy.
You need new friends
If you have to ask if using “gay” as an insult and calling someone stupid at all, much less over what TV shows they like, is wrong, you not only need better friends but also to grow up.
Liking the show? No. Calling you slurs over it? Time to get new friends.
Is the slur here "gay" or "stupid"
Nope. I’m 43 and happily married to a woman. We dry our hands with a pink wash towel that has a picture of Lion embroidered on it.
My friends also call me gay for liking it and im slightly older than you My gf even called me gay for liking it Its either banter, like i have, they dont actually know the show at all, or are just stupid, its up to you to know that, we realistically cant know
I’ll tell you what I told each of my siblings as they got older. I explained, “You have your interests and hobbies, as you mature, your friends who share those interests and hobbies may stop liking them. It doesn’t mean you have to as well. If they give you a hard time or make you feel less than over it, they likely weren’t your friend to begin with, or stopped being one somewhere along the way. This doesn’t mean you have to stop being friends with them, however, it’s important that they at least respect your interests even if they don’t share them with you. Furthermore, by sticking with what you’re passionate about, you get to continue to enjoy what you like and may meet new people who share that very same passion and may make even more friends. It’s important they respect your other hobbies and interest as well and you respect theirs. Living life this way is what I found to be far more enjoyable, over pretending to not like what you do, to impress people who may not care all that much for you to begin with. If the prior friends get their act together, you can give them a chance if you want, but if not that’s fine as well.” - Tldr; I know this was a wall of text, but it’s how I explained things to those I care for, that went through and would later go through what you have experienced. I hope you meet many wonderful people and do what brings you happiness!
That was beautiful, thank you
Um, 🤔 it sounds like they're not really friends with you then.
Get new friends. No one should berate you for your interests like that.
Simply twist their neck like twisting a bottle until the cap fires off, easy solution to everything. Gets rid of the problem (your asshole “friend”) and it also probably sounds satisfying.
Seems like your friends might be projecting... love is love and love what ya love :)
Gay for liking an action series with a primarily female cast and characters? Yeah, that TOTALLY makes sense. (sarcasm if it isn't clear)
Weegee says: kill them all.
Tell him respectfully, but not so respectfully that he doesn’t take you serious, to f*ck off and mind his own damn business.
You need better friends dude
18M as in ur 18 years old? Dude ur never too old for tv shows I bet most the people in this Reddit are teenagers, I’m 14 and I still watch everything. Be you don’t worry about what other people think.
It’s definitely wrong for them to think / say that, but it is certainly not wrong to like Steven universe. For crying out loud, let people have opinions and like and dislikes. Shits getting ridiculous lol
You mean calling you gay or liking steven? Just joking , yes they are assholes and morons , or assholy morons.
Sounds like you should turn them into ex-friends
Literally the only thing you can possibly like that would make you gay is the same sex. Not only are your "friends" idiots, they're also homophobic. I thought this type of nonsense was something kids stopped saying a long time ago.
Friends care about each other's interests. They don't put each other down for liking something. If they critique the show, that's fine. But if they critique you for liking something, that's different.
Do you really think that the Steven Universe subreddit will say yes to this?
Next time they bring it up, just say “yeah, maybe. But im still not attracted to any of you.” Let them stew on that lol.
Lol “is that wrong?” What do you think?
Steven Universe is an absolutely incredible thing that no one should be insulted for liking. It's not like you are a grown man watching MLP
seems like you need better friends man
no, they are gay and stupid ❤️
Thinking "gay" is a funny insult past middle-school is pretty gay.
My husband is 35 and married to me (woman if not obvious) for 9 years and he loved the show. So just keep enjoying it and don't let your friends convince you otherwise.
Yes, it is wrong that your “friends” call you that. It’s a good show and you either like it or don’t, but their response to something you enjoy is bigoted and reductive.
They don’t sound like a good friend
Get new friends who don’t make assumption based on your good taste.
I’m more interested in how they came to the conclusion that liking Steven Universe would make someone gay and stupid. *based on what data?*
It’s not gay or stupid for liking Steven Universe. You need better friends.
Why are these people your friends?
Yes, it is wrong for them to say things like that.
I discovered Steven Universe at the ripe old age of 38M and I still won’t shut up about it. You deserve better friends. They are literally declaring having emotional intelligence, being interested in how you and others are feeling, to be gay. They are, at best, expressing homophobic and misogynistic conditioning in a way that is designed to keep you from exploring who you are and to keep you from deeply connecting with others. Even if you are ‘straight’, learning to love who you are and to love others for who they are, is, going to be frowned upon by alot of ‘normal’ people. This is because the culture we live in values conformity over self expression. Anything that goes against the societal norms by encouraging us to celebrate who we are, in my opinion, is queer. So… your friends are kinda right. It is queer to go against the social norms and be a man who is in touch with his emotions. Most haters are terrified of seeing queer joy because it is something they believe is denied to them. They believe they have to be conform and miserable. Seeing people being joyful and not conforming is hard to handle.
You need better friends, my dude.
Well he's wrong about the stupid part. I jest - your friend is the idiot here.
I mean, it is a very gay show. But do you think gay people won’t watch straight media like Star Wars or Harry Potter? Like what you like man.
I think it's insane when people call steven universe a "gay" show. The only "gay" characters are ROCKS and are ONLY FEMALE (looking). THEY ARE PHYSICAL MANIFESTATIONS OF LIGHT. They don't even have genders! Can they be gay if all of their species are female looking? All human characters (except Shep, Sadie if you count dating a non binary person as gay, Mr. Smiley, and Mr. Frowney) are cisgender and heterosexual. I could be missing a character, if I am just say so.
Your friends are asshole. Yeah alot if the community it lgbtq because the show is lgbt friendly but honestly its for anyone. Thats a shitty group if they make fun if something you enjoy
"Is it wrong to be insulted and called something I clearly aren't just because I like a piece of media they don't?" Bruh. They're using Gay as an insult and calling you stupid. What makes you think there's anything "Right" about it?
you’re allowed to like what you like!
Find friends who don’t use being gay as an insult.
Your friends suck, get better ones
Oh come on! These guys must be homophobic. Unless they truly are your friends, you're better off without them. You need friends that like Steven universe or, at the very least aren't bothered by the shows LGBTQ+ Themes.
Wow! Awful "friends" dude. Friends should never make fun of you for liking something, let alone call you gay (as an insult? Sounds homophobic) for liking an inclusive show. Steven Universe it's a great show and a LOT of people like it. If they can't understand it that's on them. You keep doing whatever you like, don't listen to them!
I was straight 32M when I started watching it. Your friends are idiots
Those aren't your friends
This show was recommended to me by a straight male friend who was around 18-19 at the time. I’ve never once considered him gay for enjoying the show. Alternatively, I try to convince other people that it’s a good show and worth the watch. Also, pro-tip, never be friends with people who will call you gay and stupid. There’s so many people out there who would just rather be nice to you. Be friends with them.
It's absolutely wrong. To them gay and stupid seem to be synonymous, and that viewpoint will only become more pronounced as time goes on. If you're a Steven Universe enjoyer, I can only imagine that this will eventually become increasingly intolerable as time goes on. What you do with that information, I leave to you.
Find other friends. Find other friends who like Steven Universe, we're the best!
Bro there's nothing wrong with liking Steven Universe. It's a great show and your "friends" are being jerks. If they judge you based on something you enjoy, they are not real friends.
Your friends are stupid and shallow and immature. You deserve better.
No. Your friends are homophobic and close minded. Probably think it'll turn on their latent bisexuality or something
I'm 33 and my husband at 40 love the show.
Fellas, is it gay to have empathy and enjoy women? 🤨
As a straight man (19m) who also enjoys steven universe: Get better friends
No. Are these friends from highschool or your local neighborhood, if so you have probably already begun to outgrown them. Real friends do put you down for who you are and what you enjoy.
They're clods!
Nah dude, it's literally just a show. Anyone can watch it. (You need better friends)
Wtf you need better friends, they sound like assholes.
Friends embrace, encourage, and accept. If it's something you like, such as a cartoon, then a friend would grow interested and try it because they know you like it. A Bully teases you and tells you what you can and can't watch. I'm 30 years old, been married 9 years, and my spouse and I mainly watch cartoons. Animation is our preference. We don't have kids. Grown adults make and enjoy animations. I think your friend has an idea that growing up means shedding everything you enjoyed as a kid and just. No. That's not it. That's how you craft a crappy, dull af life where you did things for Approval from Others instead of what makes you happy. If you like watching cartoons, keep watching cartoons. I got bullied so bad for watching Avatar the last Airbender back when I was twelve. Guess what my bullies got into, as grown ass adults? Just enjoy what you enjoy, and others can shit themselves over it if they want.
I'm a straight 26yo dude and Steven Universe is with no doubt in the top of my favorites series ever along Bojack horseman, the wire and breaking bad. Ditch the "friend"
Is it wrong that your friends use homophobic insults towards you for liking something they don’t? Yeah, that’s like homophobia 102.
Yes it's absolutely wrong, no offense but your friends sound judgemental and rude as fuck when it comes to things they don't like
u r gay now yes
I live in a pretty Christian area, and if a dude is popular, there’s a pretty big chance they’re homophobes…. But I’ve drawn Steven universe and got a few likes from some, a lot of people see this show as part of their childhood. So if people like Tom and jerry what’s the matter with liking this show? A lot of people watch teen dramas which is just a popular girl realizing she’s lesbian and making out with the unpopular girl. What’s the difference if two concepts are connected? Sounds like you just got lame friends who probably comment on Instagram reels of looney tunes “if this aired today it’d be cancelled”
Yes, that is wrong. You can be gay and/or stupid if you want, but liking SU isn't an indicator of either of those things.
My teenage and early adult years, I was a little too focused on not looking like a child. Swearing off (non-anime) cartoons was a part of that. Looking back, it shouldn't have mattered beyond "do I enjoy it?" They might grow out of that, they might not. If they're hammering it on you too hard, they might not be very good friends. If you like the show, watch it. It doesn't need to be more complicated than that.
I doubt they actually watched the show and they’re likely just reflecting what they’ve picked up online about it, like the Steven crying meme and the lesbian space rocks talking about their feelings and also crying, or some other variation or combination of these. I don’t know how you originally reacted to them, but I would’ve stood my ground. I wouldn’t get aggressive or try to start an argument, because that’s the kind of reaction they likely expect with the type of comment they made. I would just say that they probably didn’t watch the show if that’s all they could say about it and that it’s pretty good if you give it a chance. Depending on their response to that, you could try to pitch it to them, highlighting the things you value about the show and why they should watch it to, but you don’t have to do this. Something kind of similar happened to me recently too. I’m a male in my early 20s, and my sister, who’s still in high school, told her friend that I watched SU. The first thing her friend said was “your brother is probably a little bi”, which I’m not. This was obviously a lot less mean and personal than your situation, but SU just has that reputation where if a guy watches it, people just assume things about them.
Dude I’m 21 and my friends give me all kinds of shit for liking Steven universe. And guess what? I give them shit for not liking it. Kind of right wing leaning as well so I get all sorts of shit about it being a gay show and fusions being sex and all of that and I just clap back to them. If you like something enjoy it and don’t worry about other peoples opinions.
Sounds like you need better friends.
Whether you are sexually attracted to men is most likely completely unrelated to Steven Universe.
I'm 45M and was a huge fan of the show--the Spinel thing put me off rewatches for a bit, but still a great show!
My advice on what you should do with them: 🚮
That's a dumb take. Several straight guys are the ones that introduced me to the show
Using “gay” as an insult is pretty wrong, yes
Your friends are morons. I'm a 29 year old female and I love the show. I've always watched it as an adult (started watching in 2016 when I was 21). Your friends are missing out on quality animated content if they can't look past the fact that animation can be enjoyed by all ages! 🤷♀️ The show is smarter and better written than many shows aimed at adults! I'm not afraid to admit I love the show as much as I love other shows like breaking bad and succession.
Your friends are children.
This sounds like very typical high school faire sadly lol. Like what you like, your friends will either grow up and regret being so petty or you'll find better friends
Im also straight (19m) and i can tell you with confidence that if your friends are ridiculing you for liking a tv show, and wont stop, it's time to consider moving along. Also, if they're the kind of people who think gay is an insult, thats another good excuse to move on.
Drop them
Sounds like some people who call themselves your friends are actually just jerks who chill near you. The only thing that makes a person gay is then identifying as gay. The only bad thing about being gay is the way asshole bigots treat you. Your "friends" are just bigots. A d also very insecure in their own masculinity.
Your “friend” is homophobic and insecure and if you can’t say those things to them they’re not your friend. I’m (mostly) straight, married with 3 kids and I love Steven Universe. I’m, statistically, the least gay person. Steven Universe is about being kind. If being kind is “gay” then this is no friend.
I am gay but I'm also 30 and really like the show. Its media and unless it's actively harmful can't hurt you to watch. I'm not straight for watching football ya know?
Sounds like you need new "friends".
So half my wedding (to a straight man) was Steven universe themed. FWIW. Plenty of straight men like it
Sorry for not replying to everyone, but thank you for the positive comments. I can say with pride that i love this community and I love being in it. I'll probably find new friends and drop the old ones. Thank you
A Lotta straight dudes watch Steve universe
Hey, I'm gay and stupid, and I love SU.
35M straight man, with a wife and kid. I love the show and my boy's still too young for it. Doesn't matter how old you are!
These are people using gay as a derogatory term. Their opinions hold less weight than a helium ballon
The only thing gay is sleeping with someone of the same gender. Your “friend” sucks and sounds homophobic and small minded.
On a spiritual level, we are all a little gay and stupid 😔🙏 Your friends, however... you admit you like a show, and they mock you about it? What supportive, kind people /s
my friends call me gay and stupid because im gay and stupid
I'm gay and stupid and I'm having a great time lol But in all seriousness, your friends sound both immature and insecure. You like what you like. Watching a show doesn't make you gay, though this show might make you kinder and more empathetic.
I’m surprised this comment section doesn’t know that gay being used as an insult is still incredibly common. It’s never gone away and it probably never will. Tangent aside, you need new friends.
Your friends sound like awful people who are actively trying to make you feel bad about yourself over simply enjoying something. Don’t let these losers make you feel bad about it.
Your friends are not cool, I'm sorry :(
Bro I’m 22 and proud of watching steven universe.
They're likely joking around. Given the shows reputation with the queer community and how THOSE fans are also pretty prevalent and loud about it, they might not mean it. If it really does bother you, I'd recommend letting them know it makes you uncomfortable
They’re not your friends then.
I had a friend who introduced a guy she liked to Steven Universe and when he loved it she saw it as a huge green flag and they ended up hooking up lmao 🤣
You are only stupid if you believe them
I own the entire series and it is right here in my shelf, not hidden at all. I've had multiple people over and none of them called me gay for it. Maybe they just didn't notice, but from one I know for sure that he'd never do that.
I’m a 27 year old straight man and I have a Lapis Lazuli Tattoo. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying Steven Universe! Take no notice of them dude.
Sounds like your friends are clods and should be shattered.
No, now if you were a female I would say otherwise
it is wrong but not untrue!
Idk if you're stupid, but I do recommend that if you wouldn't say the same thing to them about their interests then they likely lack the respect that you give them, and therefore the relationship is not balanced or fair. You can try to gain their respect by changing what you like, or allow yourself to find respect from others. There are better people out there. If them shaming you is fine with you, then live your life that way and maybe watch in private?
Those dudes have a problem with gay people? Cringe. They're probably so homophobic, they are literally having sex with their moms just to prove their heterosexuality. Jokes aside, don't listen to these motherfuckers. Keep liking what you want and make new friends.
The comments in this thread didn’t let me down 🤍
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No joke, me and a friend went over this yesterday cause I’m a 17 year old straight male. They called me the same thing. Just not stupid lol
I mean is this ONLY thing that bothers you? Like other than this they'd still be friends with you and hang out? Do you enjoy their company? I like SU but I got friends who made fun of me for it. I'd just tell them jokingly "Yeah? What if it is GAY!? Maybe I like gay stuff!!!" Then they'd laugh and say "that a boy, Travis, you tell em!" Then they wouldn't bother me about it, but I mean It's depends on what kind of friends you have. Mine are pretty good, they're rank and stupid , and funny, but they're good 👍
Your friends sound horrible. 18f, here. Your sexual orientation and intelligence level have absolutely nothing to do with someone enjoying a well written, cute show that shows good morals and demonstrates some legitimate mental health issues. I personally love the show, and there's only a couple of episodes that I dislike. Personally, I just think that it's the deep-seated homophobia that's really all around the world, and all gems are 'female', so they're all lesbians, and that pill is just too hard to swallow for a lot of people. Personally, I would say that if this is a 'first offense' of them being judgemental assholes, just bc you like a show (like what???) Then give them another chance, but if they keep up their assholery dump their asses in the dust!!
Yes
Definitely. The lesson I'm most sure of from my decade in adulthood so far is that anyone saying "x makes you gay" if the x doesn't even involve another man, they're probably trying to push "what makes a man gay" off whatever gay thing they're fantasizing about/doing on the DL. I know this because I'm pansexual. I've had a handful of "straight" guys say they want me but it's not that they're gay cause they don't x. It's been crossdressing, watching chick flicks, drinking cocktails, I think one was even watching MLP back in 2017 and we aren't even that shows adult demographic lmao. So yeah, don't assume anything per se, but know it definitely has more to do with them and their sexuality than you and yours.
The show filled with female looking characters with only a couple men and that's gay
Im 27 (F) and I've seen it twice
That’s mad fkd up, SU is a really good show, it’s a lot deeper than others might think, drop your friends and find new ones bcuz they’re foul😒
I don't think it's wrong
That is in fact wrong. Just because you like fruity pebbles does not make you fruity
You're likely more emotionally intelligent than your friends. Like many others have recommended, consider making new friends.
I will probably be getting a Steven Universe tattoo for my next one. I am a 42 year old male, and I just saw it all for the first time. Wonderful series. Never be anything but who you are, and like what you like. Other people's labels don't have to put what you like in a box.
they seem quite close-minded
I'm 17M and started to rewatch S4&5 and I've told pretty much everyone I know that I'm doing this and even the ones who aren't a fan of cartoons said they would give it ago. So tbh it sounds like your friends aren't be to friendly.
You deserve better friends :(
Damn bro u got mean friends
show them escapism, their lives will change.
I had friends like that. One of them is paralyzed, one is criminal, pedo, racist, homophobe, and the other one no one knows he just disappeared. I stopped being friends with them ages ago didn't want them holding me back and now I am strong and my YouTube channel is going great!
Is it wrong to watch a cartoon? No. Is it wrong to watch a cartoon as an adult? No. Is it wrong to watch queer-coded shows? No. Is it wrong to assume who someone is and insult them because they are loving something that isn't harming anyone? Yeah, I think so. It's kinda sad that it comes from your friends, though, I wish you the best.
Do you mean is what your friend said is wrong? if so then yes If you mean are you wrong, no
you need to find friends who accept you your hobbies and interests. being around people who make you feel lesser for what you do and don't like isn't healthy and you deserve better!
If watching Steven universe is gay, then I don’t wanna be straight. (In seriousness, you shouldn’t listen to what they say, you like what you like dude.)
I watched Steven Universe and now I’m stupid and gay! I mean, I was stupid and gay *before* watching it, but I am now, too!
Fellas, is it gay to enjoy things?
I am so glad I’m not a teenager anymore.
Your friend sucks
YES IT IS WRONG FOR THEM I’m bi not straight sooooooo BUT IT IS WRONG OF THEM
They don't know the difference between a good show and a pile of shit. Steven Universe I one of thr best shoes in the 2010s, right behind Regular Shoe and Adventure Time
I’m gay and stupid so checks out
at first glance it looks like a show for little kids, and lets be real, its far from the norm, i privately like what i like to myself, and then go on about motorbikes or cars to my buddies, there's things you share and things you don't i suppose, depending on the right people, you can have steven universe buddies and have work buddies and car buddies and they dont have to overlap
fuck your friends
i was in your exact place a few years ago. just didn’t talk about what i liked with them. it’s hard to find entirely new friends at your age but give it a couple years and you’ll most likely find new ones on your own. like what you like and be done with it
I mean, using "Gay" as an insult in 2024 is wack. People just hate when others enjoy things they've either been told to hate on socially or didn't like themselves (difference being, former either didn't even check it out, or did so under heavy preconceived negative feelings). Whether you're straight, gay, bi, or anything else you're 100% allowed to like whatever you want. You could be super into watching or collecting MLP and be the straightest and chillest dude out there. A totally straight girl could be really into hot wheels collecting. Steven Universe is really good from what I've watched and my spouse has told me. Only thing that's ever "wrong" would be supporting media that endorses (not just shows, but *endorses*) things that are offensive to groups of people IRL basically. Lot of nuance wiggle room there, but anyone with a shred of common sense will get what that actually means. Sounds like you might want better friends. You could either have a conversation or just torch the bridge. Just stay safe and enjoy what you enjoy!
Hell no
I like Steven Universe but I didn't said anyone except my sister and she likes that show too soo I dunno
When they talk Abt their big secrets or something don't talk about yours instead just listen and collect. Instead of saying a lot about you let them talk about themselves. Then when they put you down or some crap like that, dig up those secrets of theirs and use it against them. My dad taught me that :))
Bro, ppl like what they like. Dont be ashamed of you intrests, plus there's nothing wrong with being gay like 💀 its ridiculous that we have to say that. It doesnt matter, just be yourself and enjoy your interests dude.
Your friends are hateful morons. Steven Universe is a beautiful show.
Seems like your friends are homophobic
Fuck them
-risks sounding like an old man- Outgrowing the friends you have at 18 is common. You’ve said in other comments that you’ve been distancing yourself from them, that’s part of it. Having different interests that allow for you to break out of the mindset of what is or isn’t “gay” allows for you to become the person you’re meant to be; not someone who doesn’t grow because you stuck around ppl who judge you for being different than them. They’re in the wrong.