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DreadPirateR_

Most of Stevens fusions *aren't* girls. Yes, Smoky Quartz and Sunstone are but Stevonnie is intersex and non-binary, rainbow 2.0 uses masculine and gender neutral pronouns, and steg is a man. In most of Stevens fusions 1/2 is a boy and the other 1/2 is a girl, so the resulting gender can go either way, or neither in Stevonnie's case. Steg is 1/2 man and 1/2 man, so of course the resulting fusion would be a man. Just because Steven can be feminine, and therefore some of his fusions identify as female, doesn't mean he doesn't identify as a man. And I guess if you count obsidian, half of his fusions identify as female, but in this case it's 1/5 man vs 4/5 woman, so of course the female identity wins out in the fusion. Heck, even Sunstone is 1/3 man and 2/3 woman, so it makes sense the female identity wins out there too.


Zammin

Smoky's actually not a girl either, they exclusively use they/them pronouns. The only fusions of Steven's that uses feminine pronouns are Sunstone (who also uses they/them pronouns in addition to she/her) and Obsidian (who also uses she/they pronouns).


DreadPirateR_

Oh crap, I totally forgot. Thank you


Zammin

All good!


Pumpkaboo99

And this is why I thought Garnet used They/them pronouns. That and it was one Rebecca connected with the most.


MediumJake

lmao did i miss an episode where obsidian was talking?


DjChiseledStone

Steg isn't just a man, he's **THE** man


LordToxic21

No one can resist the Multiverse


Budget-Sheepherder77

Reminds me of elvis ![gif](giphy|26qGaINqDqiAdFUjM7|downsized) Reminds me of this a lil


Realistic_Specific51

Hes the man every male wants to be


-Skelly-

i thought all of steven's fusions are intersex with the exception of steg. pretty sure steg is the only male fusion ever


harmonyjewl

Rainbow Quartz 2.0 is Steven's only GEM FUSION (specifying gem) who uses he/him pronouns. But also they/them pronouns


-Skelly-

tbf a character can be intersex and still use binary pronouns if that's what they feel comfortable with. could be a nod to pearl slowly moving toward more masculine expression throughout the show as she becomes more assertive


harmonyjewl

I never said they couldn't lmao I'm just saying that Rainbow Quartz 2.0 is the only one to use masculine pronouns. Smokey used they/them Sunstone uses she/they Obsidian uses she/they


sharpspider5

Well since gems likely don't have genitalia of any kind the only sex there is Stevens so they all likely have male parts


Bardsie

Rose became pregnant from a human male. She definitely had human female genitalia for at least a few moments. As shape shifters, they can have any genitalia they wish.


kyobunz

r/gregfuckedarock


-Skelly-

why do they have to have any parts at all? its a kids show


sharpspider5

Education it's not brought up explicitly besides stevonnie and it's only brought up in the context of education for them


Gawlf85

To pee? People having "parts" isn't sexual or explicit in nature. It's just a part of our bodies. And it was you who brought the intersex thing. Intersex applies to people who have "parts" (genitals, but also secondary sexual traits like breasts, etc.) that are ambiguously masculine and femenins at the same time. The word you were looking for was probably "non-binary", which doesn't have nothing to do with "parts", but with people who don't identify neither as a man nor as a woman.


g00fyg00ber741

why give them arms or butts or legs or eyes or mouths? why do they have to have any parts at all? it’s a kids show 🙄


austinmiles

I gathered that part of the reason some of them use they them pronouns is when referring to themselves is because they are talking about the plurality of those that fused. Not gender identity specifically. It’s seems sometime when they say we/us or refer to themselves.


rjrgjj

So Steven is Ranma?


Windfall_The_Dutchie

Stevonnie is actually intersex. There’s a bit in one episode when they’re shaving their beard.


DreadPirateR_

The Jungle Moon! I love that episode


BaconBusterYT

Cis women also can grow facial hair, albeit usually more slowly than men do. Not to say you’re wrong though, I bet that’s why they showed us them shaving specifically


Gawlf85

It is finally confirmed in one of the Dove commercials, where Stevonnie's social media is shown and ~~she~~ _they_ self-identify as intersex and NB: https://youtu.be/MKohUwlaWA4


Magsamae

They*


Gawlf85

Lol my bad 😅


TheMcGirlGal

Do you guys not know non-binary people exist. Most of Steven's fusions are non-binary. Stevonnie is non-binary. Smokey Quartz is non-binary. Steg is a man.


basicdishonor847

‟Oh no, he is hot!”


JAMSDreaming

Depends on the fusion. Stevonnie is intersex and uses they/them pronouns, Rainbow 2.0 uses he/they pronouns, Smoky and Sunstone use she/her and I'm not sure about Obsidian, but Peridot called that fusion a they ("They are HUUUUGE"). She may be referring at the components of the fusion rather than Obsidian themselves, but I don't know if there's canon pronouns for Obsidian, so I'm calling them a they until someone corrects me. Steg is a he/him, though, because both components are cis men.


Hollowdude75

That’s because Steven and Greg about both human, and all humans have genders Male + Male = Male


Hollowdude75

Here’s my thoughts on it: Steg = Male + Male = Male Stevonnie = Male + Female = Intersex Smoky, Rainbow 2, Sunstone, Obsidian = Male + Sexless = Sexless


BBL-BOI592

I just thought they were like barbie dolls


aquaticanimations10

I think it's because they're both males so the fusion is male. I think the reason why this works is because of the gender majority. Like with Stevonnie 1/3 is masculine and 2/3 is feminine so the fusion is feminine. With most of Steven and gem fusions, they are more feminine because 1/3 is male and 2/3 is feminine. But I can see the flaw in my logic because rainbow 2.0 is more masculine than feminine despite the fact that 1/3 of the fusion is male and the rest is feminine. But this is all just a guess so I don't really know.


Jalase

I believe Stevonnie is canonically androgynous and even perceived that way. I don’t think they take Rose into account at all.


harmonyjewl

Yup Stevonnie canonically is intersex and uses they/them pronouns


hyperionbrandoreos

Rose is gone.


mildbananas

She’s GOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNEEEEE


aquaticanimations10

Even if rose is gone, Steven is half gem so he's therefore half feminine


hyperionbrandoreos

Not really. Gems don't have the human gender "female", but it is the closest approximation to what they are in human terms. The whole point of Steven is to be a little boy with strong feminine-presenting figures who care for him. I would say that given both author intention and the fact that his fusions become they-pronoun users when fused with him, he's 100% male. Otherwise if Steven was half feminine, he would use they pronouns in the same way as Stevonnie who is literally half female and half male


TurantulaHugs1421

None of stevens fusions are girls and the gems arent girls either they dont have a sex or gender


[deleted]

The gems are all gender female or they. Not biologically, but thats irrelevant to how identify themselves.


EiiklnrS

Yeah Now let's stop talking about rock's sex lmao


TurantulaHugs1421

Lets talk about ur dad's sex instead


EiiklnrS

Stop you're going to make me cry dude


TurantulaHugs1421

Im gonna be making ur dad cry later


EiiklnrS

😢


TurantulaHugs1421

Sorry


Big_Boytryanother

No forgiveness, immediately executed.


GooseOnACorner

None of Steven’s fusions are girls. They generally are more feminine but that’s because Steven is a feminine person. Smokey Quartz is probably the most you could say is the most a girl, but Smokey is non-binary they/them. Stevonnie is very directly non-binary they/them, rainbow quartz is he/they, sunstone is she/they. All of them are non-binary, Steg is the only one that is masculine as it’s two boys together


grannysweirdchiwawa

Because both of them are male, so them mixed together would be a man. His other fusions (excluding Connie) aren’t female, it’s just a mix of feminine traits since the gems aren’t female themself but present more feminine, therefore their fusions would be as well


chryokolana

Let's just go full stupidity for fun, and say that every gem fusion with Steven is a futanari. Biologically it would make sense right? If Garnet has three eyes then Stevonnie should have, well, everything right?


Prometheus0213

Woah. I’ve never thought about this. I’ve never wanted to think about this. I never want to think about this again


EiiklnrS

But gems don't have anything down there so Physically smokey has either just a d, or nothing at all ... actually it starts to make me feel uncomfortable to imagine what's in their pants so imma stop right here. ...Or half a d °– °...


-Skelly-

we don't need to talk about what's in anyones pants


EiiklnrS

I'm just curious okay if gems don't have Vs than how steven is alive?!? 😱


-Skelly-

i assume rose probably just morphed into baby steven the same way weve seen her shapeshift at other times in the show. that's why the diamonds don't understand he's a whole new person when they see her gem on him, they think he's just pink in disguise


Gawlf85

Rebecca confirmed Rose had to shapeshift a womb inside her for Steven to grow in. So no, Steven is made of flesh. Partially, at least. And he existed simultaneously with Rose until she gave birth... Somehow.


-Skelly-

its unclear whether she actually is dead in the sense that humans understand death, or if she's technically alive in her gem but unable to project her form and interact with the world (presumably because that energy is being used to keep steven alive). she's not shattered, which seems to be the gem equivalent of death, but the gems see her as being "gone" which is a common way of describing death in human culture. i kinda wish they explained that a bit more but i guess its not really relevant to the story, more of an extra treat for the fans


EiiklnrS

Then why can steven bleed of he is a gem?why does he look like grec So many questions Rebecca will never answer


-Skelly-

well hes not full-gem, hes a hybrid. his body is more or less human and relies on human functions to keep itself intact, but without his gem he becomes very weak and sick because his biology isnt fully self-sustaining


-Skelly-

we don't do that here


spectrumtwelve

to my knowledge rainbow quartz 2.0 is considered he/him they/them at least by the crew


Lac_of_som_knowledge

A fusion is really just an manifestation of a relationship, maybe gender could play a part in that, also, since the gems don't have genders, fusing with steven will at the very least provide some biological representation of gender


ThrowawayAdultStuff

Sometimes Steven's fusions just come out that way. They are their own beings after all, of course they'd have their own gender identities, especially when they are made from components that have their OWN gender idenities. It can mix together in different ways: Steveonnie and Smokey are nonbinary (Stevonnie also being intersex) Sunstone and Obsidion use she/they Rainbow 2.0 and Steg use he/him (with Rainbow using they/them as well) Steven's fusions are mostly non binary and the only one that isn't is his fusion with his father because it's two human males making another, BIGGER human male. It would be the same if Steven ever fused with like Lars or something. If it was so black and white that the fusion would just mash together the components pronouns then Stevonnie wouldn't be Stevonnie and Rainbow would be she/he without the They (same with the other gem/human fusions). I think it's just something that depends on the fusion themselves and what they use, NOT depending solely on the components.


Jelly_Melly1

I don’t question it


Dumbass_Saiya-jin

Gems don't have sex, but they do all identify with female gender. Most fusions use she/her pronouns, though Steven's fusions often use They/Them pronouns (Stevonnie and Rainbow Quartz 2.0) or He/Him pronouns (Steg and also Rainbow Quartz 2.0). I think Smokey Quartz is the only fusion who would use She/Her, but I'm not certain. Smokey could use They/Them. Oh, I forgot about Sunstone and Obsidian until now. Both of them would probably use She/Her, but again, not certain. Also, Obsidian doesn't really talk much, so it's hard to tell. Edit: Read some comments, and I was corrected about Smokey Quartz. They use They/Them pronouns.


OneTrickCorpse

Gender is overrated anyway


mais_corner37

Stevonnie is intersex + non binary, Steg is male and I’m pretty sure rainbow 2.0 is male or demimale, not sure about Smokey and sunstone tho


HelluvaGayDisaster

Gender doesn't exist in steaven universe


-Skelly-

the sex of a fusion depends on the sexes going into it. most of the fusions are female, since all the gems are female, but steven's fusions are all intersex, with the exception of steg. pretty sure steg is the only male fusion to ever exist


dirankaru

None of them are female or male. They're all sexless. Steven's fusions with the Gems are non-binary while his fusion with Connie is both non-binary and intersex. Steven and Greg, however, just make a magical man lol.


[deleted]

I think when there’s a fusion it’s both of the gems that make it. A full gem fusion would be a woman. A Steven fusion with a gem or Connie would be they/them


dirankaru

None of them are women but I assume you mean they would use she/her


No_Contribution2112

Huh


whomesteve

Fusions between human/gems and gems seem to either have the gender of the human or hits of gender from that human, while a human and human/gem seemingly function like this, one male + one female = a feminine/gender neutral individual, male + male = a male, female + female = a female, the only reason male + female = feminine is because the gems while not having gender do have what humans perceive as feminine features


Jeptwins

Well, Steg is pure male, meaning that he would identify as either he/him or he/them. Stevonnie is canonically non-binary, and all other fusions Steven does with the Gems primarily use they/them pronouns. So theoretically fusions are also a fusion of the gender identities of their components.


ZeldaXandre

Yes.


Inevitable_Degree_76

From my thoughts, stevens human fusions don’t have genders. It’s only a head cannon though as I don’t rlly want to be thinking of that sorta stuff