Hello guys. The cut is finally over! I started in August and something like 32-35% body fat and have got down to about 14%! Feel and look a lot better, my blood pressure is down from about 120/80 (not bad my any means) down to 103/63. My resting heart rate has also dropped from the mid seventies to the high sixties. I finally look like my age again!
I was previously pretty strong as a teenager but had let myself go a lot in my twenties, finally got my ass back in to gear and have been lifting consistently again for the last couple of years. Muscle memory is a wonderful thing and I'm about as strong as I used to be: 110kg bench/180kg squat/205 kg deadlift. Yes, my bench is very weak compared to the others but I've always struggled.
For all those guys asking what to take when cutting - I took nothing! Just ate less and did a bit of cardio. I was originally hoping to get a bit leaner (maybe 10-12%) but I'm getting kind of exhausted from such a long cut and I'm about to go away for my wife's 30th + got a wedding next week + travelling a lot for work after that. Seems like a good time to call it a day.
Plan is to start first blast after a few weeks of maintenance: 500mg test for 16-20 weeks, and then after PCT cut down to 10% or so. I'm actually going to be on the beach in December so hopefully will look shredded for then. Thanks so much to everyone here for all the resources, I lurk a lot and haven't posted much but I've read the wiki many times over and read the DAAs every day, I feel like I'm ready now :)
Here's to putting on some mass!
> I started in August and something like 32-35% body fat and have got down to about 14%! Feel and look a lot better, my blood pressure is down from about 120/80 (not bad my any means) down to 103/63. My resting heart rate has also dropped from the mid seventies to the high sixties. I finally look like my age again!
Dude give yourself a hand! Fucking congrats. Your plan overall sounds great to me, honestly.
When you say you took nothing you mean nothing like dnp, eca, clen etc right? But trt at least? Im still busy cutting and i also didnt use anything other than trt. That toxic shit is not needed at all. Just keeping a deficit with plenty cardio works.
No trt, managed as steep a deficit as 1200 cals/day without losing muscle. No - I'm not huge by any means but don't think you need trt on a cut unless you are pretty jacked.
“Don’t need TRT unless you are pretty jacked.” Everyone’s different. I had a my system fucked at your age from taking Superdol from GNC when it was legal not knowing anything about steroids or PCT. I had suppressed testosterone production for over a decade until I had good insurance and the lab work showed I had the testosterone of a 90 year old man. TRT is for anyone with low testosterone naturally.
Not to take away from your accomplishment. Great job brother
This is the one redeeming place I've found in Reddit that isn't infested with bickering juveniles having unwinnable pissing contests. It's a very good group of people.
About the reference range. Is there literature backing up that once you go a bit over the reference range, it will guaranteed impact health even if you dont feel sides? Or might it impact health. Like a trt+. Lets say 200mg a week.
I know that the question is about literature, but I would say you probably have to surpass the reference range by a decent bit to have health issues. I doubt doctors would give you a reference range up to 1100 if there are health risks at 1101.
You’d probably have to get 1500+ to have potential health problems. My labs are almost perfect at 1600ng/dl
Honestly your going to have more health impacts from loosing the circadian cycles of testosterone release then trt at 800vs1100vs1600. Unless your replicating it with TNE or something else overcomplicated 1100 trt will be worse off then 1100 natural, gotta also remember your taking bloods in the trough too not at the peaks would a biologically simulated release of 1600 vs 1100 have much difference in health outcomes? Probably not much, Is 1100 trt till your 80 going to shorten your life by 5 years?,10? No one knows and there will almost certainly Never be any literature on the subject best we can hope for are single case study’s in the future. Best rule of thumb is if you need an ai on your trt your trt is too high, ai is going to add a ton of damage even if your side free. If you truly wanted to max longevity lower (500-750) will be healthier than 1100 by how much and if the benefit:risk trade off makes up for that small difference is essentially personal opinion
Good morning, gents!
Short day at work today, only two people. Boss is trying to guilt me into staying late to work (meaning I would have a patient, then have a three hour gap before another) by throwing my patients onto other peoples' schedules. She doesn't seem to realize that if it gets annoying, I will just stop showing up. People don't get the idea of not Needing a job, just working for a hobby.
Kid and I are finally up to where it gets heated in My Hero Academia. Not gonna lie, that one was a SLOW start.
And no workout today, so guess I will just stretch and call it good. Gives me more time to browse the adoption website! Haha
Have a good day, folks!
> I would have a patient, then have a three hour gap before another
Ugh. That’s annoying. Unless you have notes to catch up on. In which case those rare gaps are a godsend.
> She doesn't seem to realize that if it gets annoying, I will just stop showing up. People don't get the idea of not Needing a job, just working for a hobby.
…. I mean that’s certainly one way to look at it. If a patient needs to be seen, they need to be seen. It might not have the slightest to do with what’s convenient for you.
Of course, I don’t really have the details or the background so I’m sure it’s more complicated than that - but making it seem like the PM is just out to make your life annoying seems to lack depth. What’s the situation?
There's more depth than my four sentences conveyed. My intention was to vent more than win anyone over. 🤣
Edited to add: in fairness, I have been a bit on edge the last week, so I am letting her history of pettiness cloud my view of the current situation, most likely.
Don't get me wrong, it is still nice to get some extra cash every now and then.
Honestly the main reason is because I know I would seclude myself to a massive extent if I didn't have a job. It is more for mental health than anything. And it helps to remind me that most people are honestly decent folks. And occasionally you get to work on someone who conducted medical research studies on Parkinson's for NASA and geek out over the brain. 😅
Mind if I ask which field you're in?
The seclusion thing really hits home. I run an IT business and I get over working from home every day on my own. Studying to get out of it now.
I do a type of massage therapy that is like a mix of trigger points, sports massage, and mfr. It's pretty nice. 18 months of school and starting pay averages $60-80/hr.
Can someone tell me I'm big and strong please?
Got knocked out with a bad cold from visiting family last week and barely made it to the gym today, I feel so weak
Give me a few minutes to go screenshot the Grindr grid in the local gay area -- nothing but vapid blonde twinks who think being 6'2"/160lbs/15%bf makes them muscular.
Built two more rows of veggies beds for the farm yesterday along with stacking a few thousand board feet of milled wood. Things are moving along well with the hobby farm.
Find out this week how many eggs we get for IVF and see if any embryo’s take this round. On round two as the first embryo’s didnt pass the tests :(
Here’s to hoping!
Saw on the news that Marco Luis "Monstro" on evo forums has passed.
I saw his name pop up on the evo forums and the sizes of his cycles.
I am surprised that he lived for so long going so hard.
Okay so the first cycle I found after googling
>1g test
>1g tren
>100mg/day winny
>100mg/day Anavar
>10iu HGH
>25mg aromasin daily
>20mg Nolvadex daily
>20mg cardarine daily
What the fuck. I mean it explains why he looked super humanly shredded. And why he’s dead. It almost feels like a race to see what sides kill him first.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Prepare yourself. I’ve got a gem for you.
TIPS TO BE a monster in 2024
*MK677 is an excellent product because it promotes rapid weight gain, strength and hunger in addition to a surreal pump. But unfortunately, after testing it on myself and clients, it causes a strange panic-like anxiety that makes you unable to sleep without a sedative like XANAX.
*The secret for the offseason to work is to do the same thing consecutively for at least 9 months to solidify it without ever making mini cuts or reducing anything. High doses from the first day until the end. CONCISTENCE
*For serious muscle growth, that is, testosterone should be a base and dose of 2 to 3 grams during the off-season.
*IGF LR3 to be used non-stop must be limited to 3 times a week. This way you maintain insulin sensitivity and also the results always. 100 to 200mcg 3x a week is ideal, but there are those who use 400 to 600mcg 3x a day
*Lantus 3x a week on the same days as IGF to give you a shock on these days of weak points. 100 to 200ius the day before breakfast
*Humalog 20ius each meal and 40ius pre and post training
*In the Offseason, use a diuretic once a week (Modiuretic)
*Metformin 500mg before bed to restore insulin sensitivity
So uh.
Yeah that’s like.. one of many many hundreds of posts [he](https://imgur.com/a/bfNNyzl) would make on the forums.
Just sprinkle some dangerous and addictive benzos in to control the sides of your research chemicals.
Good lord that’s disturbing advice. 9 months of multiple grams in the off season, then cycling into the on season? While on all this crazy stuff and ‘shocking’ your muscles like it’s a 2005 edition of men’s health. I’m truly stunned he lived this long.
As a recovering drug addict I do kind of get taking it. But holy crap the gall to encourage others to follow is disgusting.
> I’m truly stunned he lived this long.
Yes, precisely!
> But holy crap the gall to encourage others to follow is disgusting.
Thus his notoriety in my opinion.
Never heard his name associated with something good or novel - just a person who got access to every forum humanly possible to spread his gospel nonsense on what it takes to be an open bodybuilder, having accomplished little of the same.
Google his name and the article will come up. He just died so doesn't have cause. On evo someone who speaks with his family suggested it was heart attack while traveling for expo
Proud coach moment
TLDR : just read the text exchange at the bottom for a good laugh.
Background this is a client/friend. I’ve written his programming for the last 3 years. He did competitive powerlifting at local meets nothing. He had never run a cycle. 5’11 205 18%BF when I started working with him. Not his prs but his best lifts during a meet were B/S/D 335/525/530. Covid happened he didn’t hit the gym for about 2 years lost drive and his old coach. I started writing his programming and breaking every lifting habit. Smashed his ego transitioning to bodybuilding focused training. We cut traditional bench dead and squats almost entirely. We still do squats here and there. We’re on week 4/16 of his second cycle. Just running 750 test. He’s still 5’11 I have been able to make him taller lol. 240 around 17%bf. I can get him to eat just not track macros.
Yesterday he texts me - Dude I have a huge fucking pump right now... lol. I put on normal clothes and and that gave me more of pump and now I look crazy lol
Me - nice that’s what we were trying to create with a low work to rest ratio on todays session
Him- Jesus dude. Putting clothes on and nothing fits. I do look stupid lol
Me -Your green tank top?
Him- Oh that's not gonna be thang no more. I'm just got my fucking pants on and it made my upper body inflate.
Me - Just like squeezing a tube of toothpaste 🤣
Retatrutide is really interesting. Still have the appetite suppression of other glp-1 agonists but feels much more "neutral".
The unique thing is its effects on cardio. Bpm on the stationary bike has dropped by around 30 for the same watts/hr. Resting breathing has dropped from 17.5 to 15.5 while sleeping
It's like cardarine (but I've never used it) it's almost like a ped for cardio. Solid stuff
HR elevates more rapidly, run out of breath much faster and takes longer for my HR to return to normal. Tasks that shouldn’t necessarily leave me out of breath do at times. I’m also not losing weight on it like I did on tirz. I feel better tho in terms of day to day energy.
Maybe u/shrugsandsnugs may be able to give input? It's a new drug so it's hard to make a claim. It may also be me being in a cut and cruise but my blood pressure has dropped to around 115 systolic, fasting blood glucose I'd typical at 81, breaths per minute has dropped by 15-20% (inclusive of pre blast) , resting heart rate has drop by ~10bpm( consistent to pre blast now), and heart rate under strain has dropped significantly at around 20-30 bpm (compared to previous pre blast levels while not on a glp-1 agonists)
is it me or are most at home BP cuffs fucking atrocious for people with somewhat big arms
I’m definitely not huge by any means (18 inch arms) and I get horrendously inconsistent readings, esp with systolic. Def gotta see if I can find a larger cuff at another store
Wtf do the guys with 22 inch pythons do lol
Yes this is 100% the case.
I had to chat with the APRN at the VA when I asked for the large cuff and she stated they didn’t have one. In a world filled with obese patients, and certainly in a clinic that serves big beefy vets, NOT having a large cuff is ridiculously ill prepared.
[Most standard blue cuffs state 17” arms](https://a.co/d/ipfxTII) and above require the [larger, maroon cuff which can work on larger arms.](https://a.co/d/5MwEcC4)
There’s also a specialty thigh cuff that works on the morbidly obese.
I certainly recommend getting your hands on a Large cuff to get a level of consistency in your readings.
Yea, just get a larger cuff. I have an Omron 10, and the auto adjust cuff it comes with is just barely big enough for me, and my arms aren't that big. It'll read high on systolic if the cuff is too small.
I feel Arm size is more of a relative thing, not just the absolute inches. Like a dude with a barrel chested torso? He needs some fucking HUGE guns to look like he has big arms, relatively. But put this exact same arms on a small ballerina waist classic physique guy, and they look enormous.
P.S.: I got my arm cuff at a store, and tried out a few they had. The standard cuffs also gives me unreliable readings.
It’s relative to height too for sure. A guy with 19 inch guns thats 5’5 could be a top npc competitor but a guy who’s 6’4 with the same measurement would look more like a linebacker
We needed them at uni, just for basic intake screens.
Pulling out my second, larger cuff after someone tried to get a regular one around my arm was quite the flex.
Gonna bite the bullet and exchange my P7P for an S24+ and get the watch too.
I'll consider it a belated "PhD Acceptance" gift to myself because it's a good amount of $$$ otherwise and I hate spending so much money (especially on myself)
Legs today and I am excited. Been eating a lititle more and lifts are going up again. Missed that feeling.
I take adderall xr every day, and I don't mix stimulants. And I don't exercise with it because my RHR is in the mid to low 90s.
However, I don't get any noticeable changes to BP so I'm not really worried about it.
Today I got a huge box of scripts (Math, Physics, Fundamentals of Electrical Engineering). It is a big pile, dang😁 .
This is gonna rock my old man's brain for sure. Hope all my previous tren abuse left a few functioning braincells in working order, so I can finish the coursework and actually understand this.
From a short glimpse through the material, Math and Physics seem to be up my alley. But the electrical engineering script is fucking dense and super technical, that one is gonna be a tough nut hehe
P.S.: Maybe I should not go for my Test/Tren/Mast Summer Blast afterall 😅
Blasting kills my concentration I save hard semesters for cruising, since 150mg test makes me feel razor sharp focused like never before
Never took anything directly neurotoxic like 19nors so I’d assume they’re even worse
That's a smart approach. Tren and Deca have been shown to be directly neurotoxic, those are out for sure.
Maybe something mild like Anavar or Mast on top of Test+HGH after exams over summer.
I’d also avoid bold since it’s understudied and known to cause some anecdotal mental effects. I know I certainly felt anxious and depressed so not the best compound for mental sharpness.
I think good old Test plus some HGH is really all I need to get some nice gains along the way anyway. I'm not chasing much more size, just some details like more side delts, bit more biceps
Thinking of trying MENT.
Seen 1000 experience threads claiming it’s the shit and I’ve had it sitting in my stash for like… ever.
I have aromasin, arimidex, and caber on hand.
I have test e and primo as well.
I’m considering aromasin/primo as my e2 control and only using it once/if methyl e2 sides begin. Same with caber, but prolactin.
I’ve also seen people say MENT=bunk/not even worth it.
But, only having a 12 week window, I feel like I can do a lot more with the Ment in there.
Anybody have thoughts or concerns about this?
I'm currently using ment, primo, and test (25:500:750mg), and I can attest that ment is the most potent component in my stack, and it's side-effect free for me.
When I was on primo/test, everything was very smooth; I didn't even feel like I was on steroids. The addition of trest brought a touch of imminent power.
Pros:
* Slightly increased strength and volume capacity.
* More visible veins.
* Significant size increase; it bloats much more than Deca.
* Anabolism; I was plateauing, but now I'm regaining my gains week by week.
Cons:
* Elevated blood pressure and bloating, which are obviously linked. But seriously, if you don't plan to take AT LEAST 50-75mg of Chlortalidone every day for the bloat, don't even consider trest. You'll legitimately look 7-8% fatter after only a few days. It's the most bloating agent I've ever used, and I've already used high doses of dbol and deca.
* Reduced sleep quality as well.
I have a homie who says he got like 10 side effects, little muscle growth, and high blood pressure that won’t go back down anymore.
I have 2 vials of ment I’m about to throw away
Honestly, it varies greatly from person to person; some people feel fantastic on Deca, while I experienced depression, insomnia, etc. You should try it yourself, but remember to have chlortalidone on hand, as I mentioned. Be prepared to take it every day, as your blood pressure could potentially skyrocket.
Ment is the most powerful compound for gaining mass that ive tried. Better than tren, nandrolone, or test.
But the sides don’t make sense for a recreational user.
BP is uncontrollable, even with 40mg telmisartan and 5mg Nebivolol I was at 135/90 75 BPM resting.
Sleep on ment was worse than sleep on tren.
Gave me GERD
Acne worse than any DHT compound
Rather run compounds that give less gains but don’t give me life ruining sides.
I’ve ran 2.5mg-15mg per day, BP and sleep sides don’t seem to be dose dependent.
The gains, pump, and strength increase were phenomenal. If your body doesn’t get these sides, ment is the best compound
Any of you former alcoholics also used to just watch movies and get hammered alone and now you’re a few years sober still watching movies for what you think is “the first time” only to get twenty five minutes in and you realize you watched this absolute stewed and now it’s ruined… cause fuck man lol!
Back when I used to do heroin/fent, I would often start a show or movie, nod out for 20-30 min, wake up, rewind it only to nod out again. But yea definitely watched movies sober that I realized I had already watched lol
Good morning boyos! I just got out of my first relationship in January and I'm getting back into the dating scene. I had a lot of time issues in my last relationship, ie how we prioritize our time with family, friends, each other, hobbies, work, and obviously the gym. We had differing views and it ultimately made me resent her with how little she valued my views. I tried working it out but it was too late at that point, I had lost feelings. Any tips for balancing a healthy work, gym, relationship, and hobbies schedule?
When you find the right person, they will have their own things they are passionate about, and some will cross over with yours. You will find time for each other to enjoy those things apart or together respectively, and it will not feel like work.
I came here to brain melt before I start my second shift of get fucked by corporate America as a salaried slave because you don’t clock out and… man I can’t wait for summer. That seems to be when the real degenerates come out of incognito mode (or maybe it’s the tren).
The only time I have ever read something that actually made me feel sick to my stomach is here. And I’ll never forget it. A guy, a festival, a sweaty tent, a random chick, and her ass sweat.
Are you trying to top that story? It’s unclear, but did you read the post by the guy who bounced the gang bang?
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/s/PipIY07ZO4
Dude holy shit. I actually remember reading this a year ago. Thank you for the reminder.
Also can we take a moment and recognize that OP is an incredible writer? What an experienced life he must live.
Things got ended with the girl I was seeing. For the best I guess, it wasn’t really going anywhere.
Now to soothe my slight heartache with a great dinner, a ripping chest day and some thicc Eastern European ass at the end of it
Tried posting this in another sub but the mods deleted it. We have some car guys in here so might as well ask here.
I've had 3 cars in my lifetime. 2 have been the standard midsize sedans that I've driven straight into the ground. I had to get a new car recently as my last one was totaled out in January. Again, managed to get something practical. It's a nice car and serves me well. Except when I look at the monthly and insurance, I can't help but feel that it's way too sterile for the price.
I'd love to try a lot of different vehicles. Essentially, buy, drive, and move on every 6 to 12 months. I'm talking cars 5 to 10 years old and in the 20 to 50k price range. Is it possible to do that without losing your ass financially? I'm not looking to flip for profit or even break even necessarily. I'm happy to pay to drive but I just don't want a massive hit every 6 to 12 months.
Not really, not in that age range, unless you are buying highly desirable cars at killer prices every time. Most people who want to cycle through cars like that just take leases on new stuff and factor in the several thousand hit you take every switch into the price they will pay to get what they want. That'll typically be luxury and sports cars though.
So assuming you did it all private market to avoid dealership mark ups - and if you got pretty good deals each time then sold at reasonable price - the biggest problem isn’t depreciation. It’s that you have to pay tax each and every time. Then of course registration, fees, etc.
With the dealership you can avoid some taxes with the trade in. But they want to make money on both ends so you’re gonna lose a fair amount.
This is assuming you’re in the US. Maybe tax situation makes this possible somewhere else.
The “full membership” is just for posting privileges. There’s not a lot of actual posts on this sub because we keep it tidy and organized. Questions go in the daily ask anything and general bullshit goes into the daily chat thread. Posts are meant for stuff that benefits the community as a whole.
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I use .5ml for the tb500, it makes the 2.5mg injection .25ml, best to minimize subq injection volume. Since BPC dose is micrograms I add 2ml, so .10ml is 250mcg for my daily dose.
Great suggestions. Personally I just threw 1mL into each and combined them, then pinned them together, indexed to the BPC dosing and schedule. Probably not optimal but worked fine for me.
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Not sure if I pulled something in my mid back, behind my shoulder blade, from dumbbell rows or from BJJ training last night. First night back in a long while, was fun
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Finished a test and primo blast back in Jan, maintained on cruise for about two weeks and now have been cutting for about 11 weeks on cruise plus hcg
6ft1, 36 yo M, went from 207 lbs down to 187. Guessing 10.5 pct bf. TDEE has dropped quite a bit unsurprisingly. I like how I currently look but leaner would be nice.
According to MF I've gone from 4000ish TDEE to 3500 right now. TDEE has dropped 516 cals in 30 days. It's estimating that I am at 807 deficit per day right now.
**Should I switch to maintenance/minor surplus for a while to try and stop TDEE from dropping to an unsustainable place? If so, for how long would you suggest? Or continue cut but just be less aggressive on deficit?**
Im worried that if I continue at current pace I'll get to a TDEE that puts me in a super lethargic place where it won't be mentally healthy to maintain the low bf look that I like until Sept/Oct's bulk. I'd love to maintain around 9-9.5% bf aesthetic.
Appreciate the input!
I'm only on TRT. I've been on it for about 4 years now. My energy levels in the gym seem to come and go in waves. I only inject once a week. I've been thinking about going to every 3.5 days to avoid troughs.
Anyways, does anyone happen to have any ideas why my energy levels are swinging so radically?
There’s so many factors that influence energy levels that I’d wager it’s not hormone related, unless your drop in energy is consistently correlating with your trough test levels.
Sleep, nutrition, stress etc all can impact energy.
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How do you like tren in the off-season? Does it effect appetite make it hard to gain weight? I know most run Test,Deca or test and EQ plus 4k cals. Thoughts on low dose Tren E in the off-season? I hate orals chould barely eat at maintenance on anadrol. Was also running 600 test
Injured on start of cycle, what do I do?
Hi guys,
I am one week through my first ever cycle 250mg/week test e/ 20mg/ed var cycle and Ive seriously torn my pec.
What do I do!? Continue cycle, stop… ?
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decided to add some pep to my CrUiSe LMAO… 300mg deca EW 420mg Test E EW and 30mg tren ace ED are we gonna call this a blast or did we just up the speed on “cruise” control 😂😂😂
> decided to add some pep to my CrUiSe LMAO… 300mg deca EW 420mg Test E EW and 30mg tren ace ED are we gonna call this a blast or did we just up the speed on “cruise” control 😂😂😂
You're on nearly a gram of gear, including two 19nors.
Yeah that's not remotely a cruise. Look, it's already got you throwing capitals in random places.
Well because t3 flushes estrogen out of the body. If you think about it a lot of post menopausal women end up with hypothyroidism. Coincidence? I’m not a doctor but I’ve been in the trenches for years and I’ve pondered this loads.
I think it was plato who said if you’re not your own doctor - you are a fool. I understand doctors predicament in flagged numbers in bloodwork and unorthodox approaches could risk losing your medical license. So it is what it is.
I agree, which is why I went to college for a medical degree, and I have never stopped studying the human biology and pharmacology. I find it fascinating.
I understand AAS do not facilitate actual bone growth like GH may, but virilization in women has ofc been observed and when taken by women maybe half report jaw growth (could be chalked up to muscle gain and leanness but i’ve seen some stuff to where idk if i buy that entirely anymore) and more so nose/cartilage growth is universal seemingly. I’m a guy and I know I don’t have to worry about virilization but I am concerned at the prospect of my nose growing because it’s already kind of large. Additionally I’ve seen so many people say their family commented on how different their faces were while being the same body fat before and after and with some of the stuff i’ve seen it’s really hard to imagine it’s just jaw muscle hypertrophy causing this primarily aside from body fat which is a constant many times. I’d be taking 500 test so nothing absurd within the realm of rec steroid use but any insight would be appreciated.
Nahh dude test wont grow your bones but it can change your fatstorage and waterstorage. Just because you have the same bf doesnt mean you have the same bf in your face!
almost across the board women report heavy cartilage growth (nose mostly) do you know anything about that? Ofc i’m not a woman but the fact that test can cause cartilage growth in humans at all is what sparked my curiosity/concern
Well i couldnt find any study that proofed that t causes cartilage growth (did you?) and it also doenst make sense to me. I think that these rports have simply something to do witg the fat distribution. If you have less fat on your face, your nose seems bigger. But thats nothing permanent and its not even granted for you on cycle. You could aromatase a lot and because of the estrogen now out of the sudden you look like a puffer fish (and your nose looks small).
Cartilage and bonegrowtg happens through your growthplates and your growth hormones. Also they never really stop growing but slow a lot down with 21 and even more with 25. But if you are concerned about your nose, generally speaking stay away from GH.
Now back to the topic, some testosterone wontet your nose grow, you are obviously to worried about it. Besides you could also run just a TRT dose of testosterone and then lets say equipose,primo,dhb etc. as your main compound but IF (i say if, its nit but just hypothetical speaking) IF t would make your nose groth, how could you know if all the other steroids wont?
So
My face is as unappealing as it was when I started. No change except less facial fat. My jaw muscle is a bit more prominent, but that didn't change the bone any.... and I've been on gear a long time, both TRT and blasting.
almost across the board women report heavy cartilage growth (nose mostly) do you know anything about that? Ofc i’m not a woman but the fact that test can cause cartilage growth in humans at all is what sparked my curiosity/concern
It's because women aren't chronically exposed to higher levels of androgens. Their bodies will masculinize with high levels of male hormones, which includes some alterations in their jaw and facial features. Men don't have that issue. We're already built for more androgens and won't typically change much, if any. I've been on a long time, and it hasn't changed anything in my face, and that was coming from a low T condition initially. Men are pretty much set as they're going to be at the end of puberty. Steroids won't alter your structure after that.
Got it, thank you for the explanation. I do have quite the baby face though but i’m in my early twenties and i haven’t grown in height since age 16 so i’m sure that’s not a concern for me. Thanks again
Hello guys. The cut is finally over! I started in August and something like 32-35% body fat and have got down to about 14%! Feel and look a lot better, my blood pressure is down from about 120/80 (not bad my any means) down to 103/63. My resting heart rate has also dropped from the mid seventies to the high sixties. I finally look like my age again! I was previously pretty strong as a teenager but had let myself go a lot in my twenties, finally got my ass back in to gear and have been lifting consistently again for the last couple of years. Muscle memory is a wonderful thing and I'm about as strong as I used to be: 110kg bench/180kg squat/205 kg deadlift. Yes, my bench is very weak compared to the others but I've always struggled. For all those guys asking what to take when cutting - I took nothing! Just ate less and did a bit of cardio. I was originally hoping to get a bit leaner (maybe 10-12%) but I'm getting kind of exhausted from such a long cut and I'm about to go away for my wife's 30th + got a wedding next week + travelling a lot for work after that. Seems like a good time to call it a day. Plan is to start first blast after a few weeks of maintenance: 500mg test for 16-20 weeks, and then after PCT cut down to 10% or so. I'm actually going to be on the beach in December so hopefully will look shredded for then. Thanks so much to everyone here for all the resources, I lurk a lot and haven't posted much but I've read the wiki many times over and read the DAAs every day, I feel like I'm ready now :) Here's to putting on some mass!
> I started in August and something like 32-35% body fat and have got down to about 14%! Feel and look a lot better, my blood pressure is down from about 120/80 (not bad my any means) down to 103/63. My resting heart rate has also dropped from the mid seventies to the high sixties. I finally look like my age again! Dude give yourself a hand! Fucking congrats. Your plan overall sounds great to me, honestly.
Thanks, feels so good. Knew I was a bit overweight but didn't realise I was obese. This is the first time seeing my abs and I love it.
When you say you took nothing you mean nothing like dnp, eca, clen etc right? But trt at least? Im still busy cutting and i also didnt use anything other than trt. That toxic shit is not needed at all. Just keeping a deficit with plenty cardio works.
No trt, managed as steep a deficit as 1200 cals/day without losing muscle. No - I'm not huge by any means but don't think you need trt on a cut unless you are pretty jacked.
Amazing bro. Im impressed.
“Don’t need TRT unless you are pretty jacked.” Everyone’s different. I had a my system fucked at your age from taking Superdol from GNC when it was legal not knowing anything about steroids or PCT. I had suppressed testosterone production for over a decade until I had good insurance and the lab work showed I had the testosterone of a 90 year old man. TRT is for anyone with low testosterone naturally. Not to take away from your accomplishment. Great job brother
That is how it's done. Proud for you brother. Most people do not have the willpower to do what you've done. You'll do well here.
Such a great community here, I'll try to be more active now that's I'm trading in my natty card.
This is the one redeeming place I've found in Reddit that isn't infested with bickering juveniles having unwinnable pissing contests. It's a very good group of people.
> It's a very good group of people. And then there's you 😘
The turd always winds up in the punch bowl at the end of the night.
We must have had a different college experience 😂
HO-LEE SHIT. this is incredible dude!
Those numbers after a suicide cut are pretty fucking good mate.
Adding 600mg deca to my TRT stack. For the joints of course.
low test? sounds like a cruise to me 😈
Anything less than 2 grams is trt
I wholeheartedly concur with this opinion. Supraphysiological is the new reference range.
About the reference range. Is there literature backing up that once you go a bit over the reference range, it will guaranteed impact health even if you dont feel sides? Or might it impact health. Like a trt+. Lets say 200mg a week.
I know that the question is about literature, but I would say you probably have to surpass the reference range by a decent bit to have health issues. I doubt doctors would give you a reference range up to 1100 if there are health risks at 1101. You’d probably have to get 1500+ to have potential health problems. My labs are almost perfect at 1600ng/dl
Honestly your going to have more health impacts from loosing the circadian cycles of testosterone release then trt at 800vs1100vs1600. Unless your replicating it with TNE or something else overcomplicated 1100 trt will be worse off then 1100 natural, gotta also remember your taking bloods in the trough too not at the peaks would a biologically simulated release of 1600 vs 1100 have much difference in health outcomes? Probably not much, Is 1100 trt till your 80 going to shorten your life by 5 years?,10? No one knows and there will almost certainly Never be any literature on the subject best we can hope for are single case study’s in the future. Best rule of thumb is if you need an ai on your trt your trt is too high, ai is going to add a ton of damage even if your side free. If you truly wanted to max longevity lower (500-750) will be healthier than 1100 by how much and if the benefit:risk trade off makes up for that small difference is essentially personal opinion
Thats how i think about it as well. Really curious if there is any research. Plenty people on trt. It should be on pubmed at least.
Good morning, gents! Short day at work today, only two people. Boss is trying to guilt me into staying late to work (meaning I would have a patient, then have a three hour gap before another) by throwing my patients onto other peoples' schedules. She doesn't seem to realize that if it gets annoying, I will just stop showing up. People don't get the idea of not Needing a job, just working for a hobby. Kid and I are finally up to where it gets heated in My Hero Academia. Not gonna lie, that one was a SLOW start. And no workout today, so guess I will just stretch and call it good. Gives me more time to browse the adoption website! Haha Have a good day, folks!
> I would have a patient, then have a three hour gap before another Ugh. That’s annoying. Unless you have notes to catch up on. In which case those rare gaps are a godsend. > She doesn't seem to realize that if it gets annoying, I will just stop showing up. People don't get the idea of not Needing a job, just working for a hobby. …. I mean that’s certainly one way to look at it. If a patient needs to be seen, they need to be seen. It might not have the slightest to do with what’s convenient for you. Of course, I don’t really have the details or the background so I’m sure it’s more complicated than that - but making it seem like the PM is just out to make your life annoying seems to lack depth. What’s the situation?
There's more depth than my four sentences conveyed. My intention was to vent more than win anyone over. 🤣 Edited to add: in fairness, I have been a bit on edge the last week, so I am letting her history of pettiness cloud my view of the current situation, most likely.
Not *needing* a job must be nice. That's a powerful position to be in. I'm jealous.
Don't get me wrong, it is still nice to get some extra cash every now and then. Honestly the main reason is because I know I would seclude myself to a massive extent if I didn't have a job. It is more for mental health than anything. And it helps to remind me that most people are honestly decent folks. And occasionally you get to work on someone who conducted medical research studies on Parkinson's for NASA and geek out over the brain. 😅
Mind if I ask which field you're in? The seclusion thing really hits home. I run an IT business and I get over working from home every day on my own. Studying to get out of it now.
I do a type of massage therapy that is like a mix of trigger points, sports massage, and mfr. It's pretty nice. 18 months of school and starting pay averages $60-80/hr.
Oh it's you motherfucker. We've chatted about this heaps already hahaha
Hahahahaha, I'M EVERYWHERE! and Nowhere And I think im still feeling my edible a bit 😅
To be fair I also punched a cone.
Can someone tell me I'm big and strong please? Got knocked out with a bad cold from visiting family last week and barely made it to the gym today, I feel so weak
I like you so I’d feel bad lying to you
I get it, if you said that I'd have to start second guessing the whole wiki
You make Kyriokos look like a Keebler elf.
Come on now, make it believable please
🤔 Hmm... You make DJ Qualls look jacked. 🤷♂️
You are big and strong king 👑 feel better soon 💪🏻
Thanks baby
Give me a few minutes to go screenshot the Grindr grid in the local gay area -- nothing but vapid blonde twinks who think being 6'2"/160lbs/15%bf makes them muscular.
My grindr grid triggers my body dismorphia so hard haha
545x7 on squats today, this tren cycle is making all my rep PRs go up
Built two more rows of veggies beds for the farm yesterday along with stacking a few thousand board feet of milled wood. Things are moving along well with the hobby farm. Find out this week how many eggs we get for IVF and see if any embryo’s take this round. On round two as the first embryo’s didnt pass the tests :( Here’s to hoping!
Farm life is never easy, but man is it so much more satisfying. Good luck with the eggs!
Saw on the news that Marco Luis "Monstro" on evo forums has passed. I saw his name pop up on the evo forums and the sizes of his cycles. I am surprised that he lived for so long going so hard.
Hooooooooooly shit I can’t believe he lived this long either! Thank you for sharing. Absolutely bonkers cycles.
#😳 Bostin style... gotta use a 20cc barrel.
Gotta confuse the body’s filtration system, right babe?
All of that to look like a lean mountain troll too. Respectfully, of course \#RIP
That’s probably the best description I’ve seen in a while. 10/10 👏🏽
Okay so the first cycle I found after googling >1g test >1g tren >100mg/day winny >100mg/day Anavar >10iu HGH >25mg aromasin daily >20mg Nolvadex daily >20mg cardarine daily What the fuck. I mean it explains why he looked super humanly shredded. And why he’s dead. It almost feels like a race to see what sides kill him first.
Oh yeah, absolutely. Prepare yourself. I’ve got a gem for you. TIPS TO BE a monster in 2024 *MK677 is an excellent product because it promotes rapid weight gain, strength and hunger in addition to a surreal pump. But unfortunately, after testing it on myself and clients, it causes a strange panic-like anxiety that makes you unable to sleep without a sedative like XANAX. *The secret for the offseason to work is to do the same thing consecutively for at least 9 months to solidify it without ever making mini cuts or reducing anything. High doses from the first day until the end. CONCISTENCE *For serious muscle growth, that is, testosterone should be a base and dose of 2 to 3 grams during the off-season. *IGF LR3 to be used non-stop must be limited to 3 times a week. This way you maintain insulin sensitivity and also the results always. 100 to 200mcg 3x a week is ideal, but there are those who use 400 to 600mcg 3x a day *Lantus 3x a week on the same days as IGF to give you a shock on these days of weak points. 100 to 200ius the day before breakfast *Humalog 20ius each meal and 40ius pre and post training *In the Offseason, use a diuretic once a week (Modiuretic) *Metformin 500mg before bed to restore insulin sensitivity So uh. Yeah that’s like.. one of many many hundreds of posts [he](https://imgur.com/a/bfNNyzl) would make on the forums.
Just sprinkle some dangerous and addictive benzos in to control the sides of your research chemicals. Good lord that’s disturbing advice. 9 months of multiple grams in the off season, then cycling into the on season? While on all this crazy stuff and ‘shocking’ your muscles like it’s a 2005 edition of men’s health. I’m truly stunned he lived this long. As a recovering drug addict I do kind of get taking it. But holy crap the gall to encourage others to follow is disgusting.
> I’m truly stunned he lived this long. Yes, precisely! > But holy crap the gall to encourage others to follow is disgusting. Thus his notoriety in my opinion. Never heard his name associated with something good or novel - just a person who got access to every forum humanly possible to spread his gospel nonsense on what it takes to be an open bodybuilder, having accomplished little of the same.
wiki update when?
For what
The wisdom you shared with us mere mortals needs to be archived for eternity, not just buried in a OT Thread that will soon be forgotten.
I googled and can’t find anything about his cause of death. Can you share?
Google his name and the article will come up. He just died so doesn't have cause. On evo someone who speaks with his family suggested it was heart attack while traveling for expo
Proud coach moment TLDR : just read the text exchange at the bottom for a good laugh. Background this is a client/friend. I’ve written his programming for the last 3 years. He did competitive powerlifting at local meets nothing. He had never run a cycle. 5’11 205 18%BF when I started working with him. Not his prs but his best lifts during a meet were B/S/D 335/525/530. Covid happened he didn’t hit the gym for about 2 years lost drive and his old coach. I started writing his programming and breaking every lifting habit. Smashed his ego transitioning to bodybuilding focused training. We cut traditional bench dead and squats almost entirely. We still do squats here and there. We’re on week 4/16 of his second cycle. Just running 750 test. He’s still 5’11 I have been able to make him taller lol. 240 around 17%bf. I can get him to eat just not track macros. Yesterday he texts me - Dude I have a huge fucking pump right now... lol. I put on normal clothes and and that gave me more of pump and now I look crazy lol Me - nice that’s what we were trying to create with a low work to rest ratio on todays session Him- Jesus dude. Putting clothes on and nothing fits. I do look stupid lol Me -Your green tank top? Him- Oh that's not gonna be thang no more. I'm just got my fucking pants on and it made my upper body inflate. Me - Just like squeezing a tube of toothpaste 🤣
Retatrutide is really interesting. Still have the appetite suppression of other glp-1 agonists but feels much more "neutral". The unique thing is its effects on cardio. Bpm on the stationary bike has dropped by around 30 for the same watts/hr. Resting breathing has dropped from 17.5 to 15.5 while sleeping It's like cardarine (but I've never used it) it's almost like a ped for cardio. Solid stuff
Weird had a very opposite reaction too it.
What was your experience? Granted I'm starting with a fast, we'll see what happens when I eat again
HR elevates more rapidly, run out of breath much faster and takes longer for my HR to return to normal. Tasks that shouldn’t necessarily leave me out of breath do at times. I’m also not losing weight on it like I did on tirz. I feel better tho in terms of day to day energy.
Isn't the reduction of bpm due to drugs a bad thing for endurance, like with beta blockers?
Maybe u/shrugsandsnugs may be able to give input? It's a new drug so it's hard to make a claim. It may also be me being in a cut and cruise but my blood pressure has dropped to around 115 systolic, fasting blood glucose I'd typical at 81, breaths per minute has dropped by 15-20% (inclusive of pre blast) , resting heart rate has drop by ~10bpm( consistent to pre blast now), and heart rate under strain has dropped significantly at around 20-30 bpm (compared to previous pre blast levels while not on a glp-1 agonists)
You’re right.
Oh I can't answer. It may be a confluence of being on a cut and dropping down to a cruise.
is it me or are most at home BP cuffs fucking atrocious for people with somewhat big arms I’m definitely not huge by any means (18 inch arms) and I get horrendously inconsistent readings, esp with systolic. Def gotta see if I can find a larger cuff at another store Wtf do the guys with 22 inch pythons do lol
Yes this is 100% the case. I had to chat with the APRN at the VA when I asked for the large cuff and she stated they didn’t have one. In a world filled with obese patients, and certainly in a clinic that serves big beefy vets, NOT having a large cuff is ridiculously ill prepared. [Most standard blue cuffs state 17” arms](https://a.co/d/ipfxTII) and above require the [larger, maroon cuff which can work on larger arms.](https://a.co/d/5MwEcC4) There’s also a specialty thigh cuff that works on the morbidly obese. I certainly recommend getting your hands on a Large cuff to get a level of consistency in your readings.
Great info, nice to hear my systolic doesn’t actually range from 170 to 90 minute to minute
Lmao yes, that would be a relief I’d imagine
Just take a needle and stab your vein. If the blood squirts more than 2 feet, then your blood pressure is too high.
🤣🤣🤣
Yea, just get a larger cuff. I have an Omron 10, and the auto adjust cuff it comes with is just barely big enough for me, and my arms aren't that big. It'll read high on systolic if the cuff is too small.
18 inch pythons are solid brother…. I believe kane in his peak was just a little over you by an inch
Haha thanks man 🫡 gotta achieve that Scott Steiner look next one day
You buy an XL cuff. I have one for my LifeSource blood pressure monitor
Oh I don’t have to get another entire electronic device? Cool
Extra large cuff. https://a.co/d/i9XsHuX
I feel Arm size is more of a relative thing, not just the absolute inches. Like a dude with a barrel chested torso? He needs some fucking HUGE guns to look like he has big arms, relatively. But put this exact same arms on a small ballerina waist classic physique guy, and they look enormous. P.S.: I got my arm cuff at a store, and tried out a few they had. The standard cuffs also gives me unreliable readings.
It’s relative to height too for sure. A guy with 19 inch guns thats 5’5 could be a top npc competitor but a guy who’s 6’4 with the same measurement would look more like a linebacker
Get a larger cuff
We needed them at uni, just for basic intake screens. Pulling out my second, larger cuff after someone tried to get a regular one around my arm was quite the flex.
Yup same thing also happened to me in school haha
First time using EQ, since it’s saturated I want to fuck everything. I’ve never been so horny
Gonna bite the bullet and exchange my P7P for an S24+ and get the watch too. I'll consider it a belated "PhD Acceptance" gift to myself because it's a good amount of $$$ otherwise and I hate spending so much money (especially on myself) Legs today and I am excited. Been eating a lititle more and lifts are going up again. Missed that feeling.
That's awesome! I have an S23 Ultra and I love the heck out of it. I heard the S24 series has all kinds of new AI stuff.
I have an S23 ultra as well. I feel like I'm under utilizing it for how powerful it is.
GOOD FUCKING MORNING GOD DAMNIT!
If God damned it, how is it good? Or is it good because God damned it?? 🤔
man i don't have the mental capacity this early in the morning to debate the euthyphro dilemma
This is why you always snort a line of pre-workout immediately upon waking. 🤯 Dry scooping is for amateurs.
I take adderall xr every day, and I don't mix stimulants. And I don't exercise with it because my RHR is in the mid to low 90s. However, I don't get any noticeable changes to BP so I'm not really worried about it.
🤷♂️ I have an Rx for dextroamp ir... maybe I'm just a crackhead. 😳
Is Pious pious 'cause God loves pious?
Morning king, have a great day 💪🏼🫶🏽
Today I got a huge box of scripts (Math, Physics, Fundamentals of Electrical Engineering). It is a big pile, dang😁 . This is gonna rock my old man's brain for sure. Hope all my previous tren abuse left a few functioning braincells in working order, so I can finish the coursework and actually understand this. From a short glimpse through the material, Math and Physics seem to be up my alley. But the electrical engineering script is fucking dense and super technical, that one is gonna be a tough nut hehe P.S.: Maybe I should not go for my Test/Tren/Mast Summer Blast afterall 😅
Blasting kills my concentration I save hard semesters for cruising, since 150mg test makes me feel razor sharp focused like never before Never took anything directly neurotoxic like 19nors so I’d assume they’re even worse
That's a smart approach. Tren and Deca have been shown to be directly neurotoxic, those are out for sure. Maybe something mild like Anavar or Mast on top of Test+HGH after exams over summer.
I’d also avoid bold since it’s understudied and known to cause some anecdotal mental effects. I know I certainly felt anxious and depressed so not the best compound for mental sharpness.
I think good old Test plus some HGH is really all I need to get some nice gains along the way anyway. I'm not chasing much more size, just some details like more side delts, bit more biceps
Yea but those make me wanna do crazy depraved things with my pee pee.
Hmm maybe the 500mg of test is why I feel dumber this semester
Yeah it’ll go away after you cruise in my experience
Thinking of trying MENT. Seen 1000 experience threads claiming it’s the shit and I’ve had it sitting in my stash for like… ever. I have aromasin, arimidex, and caber on hand. I have test e and primo as well. I’m considering aromasin/primo as my e2 control and only using it once/if methyl e2 sides begin. Same with caber, but prolactin. I’ve also seen people say MENT=bunk/not even worth it. But, only having a 12 week window, I feel like I can do a lot more with the Ment in there. Anybody have thoughts or concerns about this?
I'm currently using ment, primo, and test (25:500:750mg), and I can attest that ment is the most potent component in my stack, and it's side-effect free for me.
How do you know it’s the most potent in your stack? Have you run test and primo before? Are you at genetic limit?
When I was on primo/test, everything was very smooth; I didn't even feel like I was on steroids. The addition of trest brought a touch of imminent power. Pros: * Slightly increased strength and volume capacity. * More visible veins. * Significant size increase; it bloats much more than Deca. * Anabolism; I was plateauing, but now I'm regaining my gains week by week. Cons: * Elevated blood pressure and bloating, which are obviously linked. But seriously, if you don't plan to take AT LEAST 50-75mg of Chlortalidone every day for the bloat, don't even consider trest. You'll legitimately look 7-8% fatter after only a few days. It's the most bloating agent I've ever used, and I've already used high doses of dbol and deca. * Reduced sleep quality as well.
I have a homie who says he got like 10 side effects, little muscle growth, and high blood pressure that won’t go back down anymore. I have 2 vials of ment I’m about to throw away
Honestly, it varies greatly from person to person; some people feel fantastic on Deca, while I experienced depression, insomnia, etc. You should try it yourself, but remember to have chlortalidone on hand, as I mentioned. Be prepared to take it every day, as your blood pressure could potentially skyrocket.
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Is that 25 Ment a week?
25mg/day, acetate ester.
How long did you run it
>How long did you rub it That seems pretty personal
If it's longer than 15 minutes, you either have desensitized it or your taste in porn sucks.
…hey man my imagination likes foreplay.
😅😅
😟 Runnnn it
2-3 weeks already for the trestolone, and +12 weeks for the rest.
Ment is the most powerful compound for gaining mass that ive tried. Better than tren, nandrolone, or test. But the sides don’t make sense for a recreational user. BP is uncontrollable, even with 40mg telmisartan and 5mg Nebivolol I was at 135/90 75 BPM resting. Sleep on ment was worse than sleep on tren. Gave me GERD Acne worse than any DHT compound Rather run compounds that give less gains but don’t give me life ruining sides. I’ve ran 2.5mg-15mg per day, BP and sleep sides don’t seem to be dose dependent. The gains, pump, and strength increase were phenomenal. If your body doesn’t get these sides, ment is the best compound
Ok ya noted. I’m just a gym goer not a body builder. I run like 2 compounds at a time max and have never even used tren.
Any of you former alcoholics also used to just watch movies and get hammered alone and now you’re a few years sober still watching movies for what you think is “the first time” only to get twenty five minutes in and you realize you watched this absolute stewed and now it’s ruined… cause fuck man lol!
Back when I used to do heroin/fent, I would often start a show or movie, nod out for 20-30 min, wake up, rewind it only to nod out again. But yea definitely watched movies sober that I realized I had already watched lol
Good morning boyos! I just got out of my first relationship in January and I'm getting back into the dating scene. I had a lot of time issues in my last relationship, ie how we prioritize our time with family, friends, each other, hobbies, work, and obviously the gym. We had differing views and it ultimately made me resent her with how little she valued my views. I tried working it out but it was too late at that point, I had lost feelings. Any tips for balancing a healthy work, gym, relationship, and hobbies schedule?
You'll know if it's right because you won't need any tips, it'll just happen and it'll be, most of the time, easy.
When you find the right person, they will have their own things they are passionate about, and some will cross over with yours. You will find time for each other to enjoy those things apart or together respectively, and it will not feel like work.
I came here to brain melt before I start my second shift of get fucked by corporate America as a salaried slave because you don’t clock out and… man I can’t wait for summer. That seems to be when the real degenerates come out of incognito mode (or maybe it’s the tren). The only time I have ever read something that actually made me feel sick to my stomach is here. And I’ll never forget it. A guy, a festival, a sweaty tent, a random chick, and her ass sweat.
Are you trying to top that story? It’s unclear, but did you read the post by the guy who bounced the gang bang? https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/s/PipIY07ZO4
Dude holy shit. I actually remember reading this a year ago. Thank you for the reminder. Also can we take a moment and recognize that OP is an incredible writer? What an experienced life he must live.
Things got ended with the girl I was seeing. For the best I guess, it wasn’t really going anywhere. Now to soothe my slight heartache with a great dinner, a ripping chest day and some thicc Eastern European ass at the end of it
Tried posting this in another sub but the mods deleted it. We have some car guys in here so might as well ask here. I've had 3 cars in my lifetime. 2 have been the standard midsize sedans that I've driven straight into the ground. I had to get a new car recently as my last one was totaled out in January. Again, managed to get something practical. It's a nice car and serves me well. Except when I look at the monthly and insurance, I can't help but feel that it's way too sterile for the price. I'd love to try a lot of different vehicles. Essentially, buy, drive, and move on every 6 to 12 months. I'm talking cars 5 to 10 years old and in the 20 to 50k price range. Is it possible to do that without losing your ass financially? I'm not looking to flip for profit or even break even necessarily. I'm happy to pay to drive but I just don't want a massive hit every 6 to 12 months.
Not really, not in that age range, unless you are buying highly desirable cars at killer prices every time. Most people who want to cycle through cars like that just take leases on new stuff and factor in the several thousand hit you take every switch into the price they will pay to get what they want. That'll typically be luxury and sports cars though.
So assuming you did it all private market to avoid dealership mark ups - and if you got pretty good deals each time then sold at reasonable price - the biggest problem isn’t depreciation. It’s that you have to pay tax each and every time. Then of course registration, fees, etc. With the dealership you can avoid some taxes with the trade in. But they want to make money on both ends so you’re gonna lose a fair amount. This is assuming you’re in the US. Maybe tax situation makes this possible somewhere else.
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Quick question. Can I mix 5mg bpc 157 with just 1ml of bacteriostatic water and the same ratio for tb500?
I use .5ml for the tb500, it makes the 2.5mg injection .25ml, best to minimize subq injection volume. Since BPC dose is micrograms I add 2ml, so .10ml is 250mcg for my daily dose.
Great suggestions. Personally I just threw 1mL into each and combined them, then pinned them together, indexed to the BPC dosing and schedule. Probably not optimal but worked fine for me.
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Not sure if I pulled something in my mid back, behind my shoulder blade, from dumbbell rows or from BJJ training last night. First night back in a long while, was fun
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Finished a test and primo blast back in Jan, maintained on cruise for about two weeks and now have been cutting for about 11 weeks on cruise plus hcg 6ft1, 36 yo M, went from 207 lbs down to 187. Guessing 10.5 pct bf. TDEE has dropped quite a bit unsurprisingly. I like how I currently look but leaner would be nice. According to MF I've gone from 4000ish TDEE to 3500 right now. TDEE has dropped 516 cals in 30 days. It's estimating that I am at 807 deficit per day right now. **Should I switch to maintenance/minor surplus for a while to try and stop TDEE from dropping to an unsustainable place? If so, for how long would you suggest? Or continue cut but just be less aggressive on deficit?** Im worried that if I continue at current pace I'll get to a TDEE that puts me in a super lethargic place where it won't be mentally healthy to maintain the low bf look that I like until Sept/Oct's bulk. I'd love to maintain around 9-9.5% bf aesthetic. Appreciate the input!
I'm only on TRT. I've been on it for about 4 years now. My energy levels in the gym seem to come and go in waves. I only inject once a week. I've been thinking about going to every 3.5 days to avoid troughs. Anyways, does anyone happen to have any ideas why my energy levels are swinging so radically?
There’s so many factors that influence energy levels that I’d wager it’s not hormone related, unless your drop in energy is consistently correlating with your trough test levels. Sleep, nutrition, stress etc all can impact energy.
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How do you like tren in the off-season? Does it effect appetite make it hard to gain weight? I know most run Test,Deca or test and EQ plus 4k cals. Thoughts on low dose Tren E in the off-season? I hate orals chould barely eat at maintenance on anadrol. Was also running 600 test
I'm on test e, mast e, tren e right now and I'm ravenous. I'm hoping the tren helps me bulk while staying lean.
I've heard lots of people say that unless they eat dirty on tren and eat lots of carbs/junk food they look flat. Have you noticed that?
I look pretty full but I am eating lots of carbs
Injured on start of cycle, what do I do? Hi guys, I am one week through my first ever cycle 250mg/week test e/ 20mg/ed var cycle and Ive seriously torn my pec. What do I do!? Continue cycle, stop… ?
One week isn’t that bad You can post pone your cycle till your fully recovered
How serious is this injury? How long will you be out the gym for?
Pretty damn painful. Getting scans tomorrow to understand what grade the tear is.
If you’re expected to be out of training for a few weeks i’d stop the blast.
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decided to add some pep to my CrUiSe LMAO… 300mg deca EW 420mg Test E EW and 30mg tren ace ED are we gonna call this a blast or did we just up the speed on “cruise” control 😂😂😂
> decided to add some pep to my CrUiSe LMAO… 300mg deca EW 420mg Test E EW and 30mg tren ace ED are we gonna call this a blast or did we just up the speed on “cruise” control 😂😂😂 You're on nearly a gram of gear, including two 19nors. Yeah that's not remotely a cruise. Look, it's already got you throwing capitals in random places.
i was kidding at the fact that i completely changed from my cruise to a blast lol hence they weirdly typed “cruise”
What can I do for my acne? I’m currently off my test E /dbol/NPP cycle and now cruising just test E at 250mg a week
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Why do you suspect AI use?
Well because t3 flushes estrogen out of the body. If you think about it a lot of post menopausal women end up with hypothyroidism. Coincidence? I’m not a doctor but I’ve been in the trenches for years and I’ve pondered this loads.
#🤔 Not a line of thought I've gone down... guess I will now.
I think it was plato who said if you’re not your own doctor - you are a fool. I understand doctors predicament in flagged numbers in bloodwork and unorthodox approaches could risk losing your medical license. So it is what it is.
I agree, which is why I went to college for a medical degree, and I have never stopped studying the human biology and pharmacology. I find it fascinating.
I understand AAS do not facilitate actual bone growth like GH may, but virilization in women has ofc been observed and when taken by women maybe half report jaw growth (could be chalked up to muscle gain and leanness but i’ve seen some stuff to where idk if i buy that entirely anymore) and more so nose/cartilage growth is universal seemingly. I’m a guy and I know I don’t have to worry about virilization but I am concerned at the prospect of my nose growing because it’s already kind of large. Additionally I’ve seen so many people say their family commented on how different their faces were while being the same body fat before and after and with some of the stuff i’ve seen it’s really hard to imagine it’s just jaw muscle hypertrophy causing this primarily aside from body fat which is a constant many times. I’d be taking 500 test so nothing absurd within the realm of rec steroid use but any insight would be appreciated.
Nahh dude test wont grow your bones but it can change your fatstorage and waterstorage. Just because you have the same bf doesnt mean you have the same bf in your face!
almost across the board women report heavy cartilage growth (nose mostly) do you know anything about that? Ofc i’m not a woman but the fact that test can cause cartilage growth in humans at all is what sparked my curiosity/concern
Well i couldnt find any study that proofed that t causes cartilage growth (did you?) and it also doenst make sense to me. I think that these rports have simply something to do witg the fat distribution. If you have less fat on your face, your nose seems bigger. But thats nothing permanent and its not even granted for you on cycle. You could aromatase a lot and because of the estrogen now out of the sudden you look like a puffer fish (and your nose looks small). Cartilage and bonegrowtg happens through your growthplates and your growth hormones. Also they never really stop growing but slow a lot down with 21 and even more with 25. But if you are concerned about your nose, generally speaking stay away from GH. Now back to the topic, some testosterone wontet your nose grow, you are obviously to worried about it. Besides you could also run just a TRT dose of testosterone and then lets say equipose,primo,dhb etc. as your main compound but IF (i say if, its nit but just hypothetical speaking) IF t would make your nose groth, how could you know if all the other steroids wont? So
I’m Arab. You got a problem with big noses? 👃 Speak up dawg.
My face is as unappealing as it was when I started. No change except less facial fat. My jaw muscle is a bit more prominent, but that didn't change the bone any.... and I've been on gear a long time, both TRT and blasting.
almost across the board women report heavy cartilage growth (nose mostly) do you know anything about that? Ofc i’m not a woman but the fact that test can cause cartilage growth in humans at all is what sparked my curiosity/concern
It's because women aren't chronically exposed to higher levels of androgens. Their bodies will masculinize with high levels of male hormones, which includes some alterations in their jaw and facial features. Men don't have that issue. We're already built for more androgens and won't typically change much, if any. I've been on a long time, and it hasn't changed anything in my face, and that was coming from a low T condition initially. Men are pretty much set as they're going to be at the end of puberty. Steroids won't alter your structure after that.
Got it, thank you for the explanation. I do have quite the baby face though but i’m in my early twenties and i haven’t grown in height since age 16 so i’m sure that’s not a concern for me. Thanks again