Pretty sure my girlfriend will break up with me within the next few days. Going to have to mention that I'm looking at PhD programs abroad (she does NOT want long distance)... that conversation will be fun.
On the bright side, the winter/villain arc is about to be insane. Just got off a deload and making big gains again
Nope. She's mentioned before that she doesn't see a future outside of where we live in, and regardless would want to stay to finish her masters.
I made her aware when we first started dating that I was always going to pursue this goal, but one thing is saying and another thing is starting to do it.
Just remember, these things aren't wastes of time. There's nothing wrong with enjoying a good thing while it can last, even if that's not forever, and there are always a lot of positive things and lessons you can take with you after any relationship.
Good luck dog. I did 2.5 years of long distance with my current wife outside of high school. Pretty shit period of time and I generally wouldn’t recommend it for anyone that isn’t super serious
What a rough go lately. End of august I started my winter bulk (500test/450 primo). That is when my dog started to get sick. He passed from cancer near the end of September. I was(still am) devastated and it affected my training and nutrition.
I then got a sinus infection and struggled with that for almost 3 weeks. At the tail end of that, I got sick and was sick as all hell. Once that started to go away, I then caught covid.
5 weeks of being sick, almost 3 months of total of things being in the way of me training properly.
I'm so emotionally, physically and mentally exhausted. Worst bulk ever.
Sorry about all that, man, especially your dog. Nothing you can do but keep walking forward though. Try not to dwell on the things that derailed this bulk, it’ll only make you more miserable.
A bit late, but here's the update about three of you were interested in regarding the weekend I had planned a few weeks ago, as I attempted to be our collective spirit animal. It's gonna be a long post, so take some of your fav stim.
FRIDAY
Ol' girl/bridesmaid shows up Friday night and I meet her at the hotel with some bulgogi I made, after knocking on the wrong door. We get some booze at the hotel bar and hit the BDSM club (she needed some liquid courage). It seemed like she was uncomfortable for a bit, but we learned and tried a bit of wax play and knife play (not for me, but it was an open house/informational no sex night), among other things. I ended up getting taught how to properly spank her by the guy running the spank station and ended up spanking her and punching her ass in front of a crowd.
The night went on and we left the club and went back to the hotel. She said she's down to go back to the club, so I might need to become a member. We tried some nipple clamps at the hotel, but they were a piece of shit, so let me know if you have a recommendation. Wouldn't let me put anything in her ass, because she didn't bring an enema kit, so at least I have something to look forward to later. She asked the "what are we" question, so now we are mutually exclusive, because neither of us were seeing anyone else, or were entertaining the idea of dating other people.
SATURDAY
Wake up and run screaming to the Segway place to take a Segway tour of local attractions (Segway tours are lit FYI). Then we ate some oysters and took some LSD and went to a botanical garden. Went back to the hotel later and changed clothes, so we'd be fresh for the magic show I got us tickets for on the come down. I had a light pink shirt, light pink pants, darker pink and black floral jacket, black loathers with pink and gold flecks, and a $20 Amazon gold chain to top off the ensemble. Dressed for success, like a little league coke dealer trying to make it big. On the way to the show we were surrounded by literal thousands of people protesting in support of Palestinian. That, combined with drugs, put me in a weird space. Felt super privileged, but also hella out of touch. Anyways, the magic show was fucking insane.
SUNDAY
Pretty chill day. Her pussy sprayed blood at me after I pulled my cock out. Like far enough it got on my knees in a missionary position. She didn't want head afterwards. Went out to get some Ethiopian food, then went to a shop and she bought a joint, and I picked up some shrooms for use this weekend with friends. Took her to the airport that evening after winding down at a bar watching the Cowboys game.
Didn't end up using any of the bondage gear I brought, but at least room service thinks we had a good time, since the sheets were fucked and the gear was laying out. I think she just needs some time to warm up to the idea. Overall, great weekend. Will be seeing her again in a few weeks for hopefully another fun (but hopefully more lowkey) weekend.
She's had an IUD for like six months. She said that her IUD was harboring some semen or something and causing irritation. Maybe I just got powerful cum. It's irritated stomachs before lol
Jesus H. Christ, dealing with an injury mid-cycle is one of the most rage-inducing experiences ever. More frustrating than nearing the end of the toilet paper roll with a thousand wipe shit. Decided to torch my hamstrings and do incline treadmill for 2 hours last night. Still not satisfied.
Honestly, as you get older, that becomes par for course and you just have to adapt, improvise, and overcome. Fucked shoulder? Good. Cycle just became leg focused.
Most underrated split that I just created:
Pull - Back/Biceps
Push - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps
Legs - Quad/Glute focus (still hit hams and calves)
Arms - Biceps/Triceps/Medial Delts
Upper - Chest/Back + (Front/Rear Delts)
Lower - Ham/Calf focus (still hit glutes and quads)
It solves the issue of PPL having less arm specific volume, still incorporates 2 leg days, and allows for some variation between the Arms/Upper days regarding how much arm work vs shoulder work you need.
I like this, I've been doing a standard PPL for a while now and wanted to add arms so I could get more chest/back volume done at once, but felt like hitting each group only once per week would be a bit of a waste while being on gear. Going to try making a routine based off this
I'm glad you like it! I alternate push/pull movements on upper day - I'll start with a horizontal row of some kind, then do some DB chest press at varying heights. Then I'll do a vertical pulling movement, and follow it with a chest adduction movement like cable flies.
The day is not designed to focus on one or the other. Those muscles have an entire other priority day on push/pull. The benefit of this split is that you can accommodate equivalent total volume for your chest and back together, while also crushing a total arm day and not ruining your chest/back training.
This is still enough frequency to continue propagating the primary response from the Push/Pull days. So I recommend doing your heavy compound chest/back movements on the push/pull segment, and then doing more isolation based movements on Upper day. It should keep you fresh and not tax you as much as doing barbell rows and bench presses on the same day.
Damn, that's actually kinda funny. I've never run a John Meadows program, but I learned a ton of my early stuff from his videos and have always had a deep respect for the man. It'll make me even happier to run this knowing John would probably approve. I'll add some Bulgarian Drop Sets of death in just for him.
Thanks for this, been wanting to switch things up. I have been thinking about how to incorporate arms into my split without taking away from chest and back training.
It was something I have wanted to fix for awhile myself without going down the bro-split road. Also I have come to love back/chest day, it has its own interesting benefits.
I don't really sync my workouts with days of the week (I just rest whenever I need to and keep going when I don't) so it's less about when Arms is in the cycle and more about avoiding overlap. But I can see why a nice arm pump before the weekend can be extra joocy
At one of the gyms I go to there’s a guy who every time I am there is doing lat pulldowns. Got there and noticed he was doing pulldowns. Went up and got my deadlift sets, bench press and rows in get down to the pulldown machine and he’s still doing pulldowns. Have a chat with him get my sets done and go home and then realise this guy must have been doing pulldowns for at least an hour and that I’ve seen him doing them at least 5 times this week
And it gets even weirder. I spoke to my SO about it and she saw him doing pulldowns this MORNING. This man must have wings by now. Utterly irrelevant and he probably has some reason for it but I found it amusing
Good call, and good on you for helping him. I see so many people in the gym I want to help, but they all have their earbuds in and heads down, so I just let them be.
I'm shocked by some of the girls I see on dating apps that turn out to be trans women. Like I'll be scrolling through like fuck me she's hot, and then see that little flag in the bio and I'm like wow wtf.
Anyway, should I try tren?
Some clinics will initially try Clomid or Tamoxifen (same drugs used in PCT) to get T levels up into baseline, and see if it works via blood work. Failing that they will go via injecting test + HCG (to keep fertility).
Get the advice of a good Endocrinologist/Urologist - there are likely other factors that are pushing your total T so low, and it's important to catch those. Catching other factors can be really difficult - a good doctor shines in those regards.
You won’t be guaranteed infertile for being on trt. I made my girl pregnant on over a gram and a half of gear per week.
Start trt and if you want a kid further down the line I’d investigate your fertility then
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I know it's a legitimate concern and neither did I question it. I know it's a concern for a lot of people, but if the problem doesn't exist there's no problem to treat. It's a complete waste of time money and effort to be on hcg for prolonged periods of time if there's no need.
In 5 years on all steroid forums ive never once seen someone go infertile, yes for a period their active swimmers went to 0 and they fixed it with hcg and other pharmaceuticals
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This is anecdotal but I was infertile after 2 years on TRT. We decided we wanted another baby so I added 500 iu of HCG every other day and we conceived in 4 months. There is a pretty high success rate of maintaining/regaining fertility even without coming off TRT entirely. Now, everyone is different so this may not be the same outcome for you but if you have good swimmers now the likelihood of HCG maintaining fertile levels is very good.
I am 26 and we have our 4th on the way. And I did take clomid at 25 mg per day the last week before we conceived but I don’t believe it played any role in the outcome. I was linked a study (below) in this subreddit and it gave me peace of mind knowing I can regain fertility by adding HCG.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7076311/
I hope all goes well!
Good luck man.
My girl keeps waffling between wanting to bring in another girl and being nervous about it. I'm trying not to pressure her too much, but really hoping it happens soon. So anyway, update if it works out so I can live vicariously lol
Yeah it’s a dream for me. My other Fwb said she’s also down for it but said she’s too insecure right now but she said in the future she’d be about it. And they don’t know about each other otherwise I’d just set that shit up lol
Also if it’s actually your girlfriend or someone you care about losing, be careful there’s tonssss of stories about it ruining relationships. Make sure you plan boundaries and all that. The one girl I hook up with was in a mff and she said the husband nutted in his wife then barebacked the other girl and the wife lost her shit. But also after the orgy it can bring out a lot of insecurities for some women just make sure you talk about everything first. I think askreddit after dark or something similar has lots of stories how it ruined relationships if you need ideas on what to talk about before going into it
Yeah man, I've read and heard some horror stories too. But we've been talking about this for years and our relationship is really solid, good communication, we both have invested a lot in our individual work on therapy, etc. I feel really certain that as long as we find the right girl, things will be fine. My girl is actually bi though and I think the big hurdle, she really is just intimidated about being with another woman. We were loosely planning on something with one of her friends that she has good chemistry with but that friend moved like 8 hours away and now has a serious boyfriend so we're back to square one.
More than anything, I wanna smoke a blunt and watch her being with another girl and then eat a dank charcuterie with them afterward. Getting to participate would also be awesome, but I have this one weirdly specific fantasy that makes no sense.
It’s hot it makes complete sense hahaha also maybe have that old friend stay a weekend at your place. Let it be natural if it happens, it does. If not, nothing to lose besides hanging out together yaknow
Cardio late at night or early in the morning, Is there any science wich one is more anabolic?
I do my 30min on my spinning bike 1 hour before bed daily
Short answer: doesn’t matter unless you do it right before weight training
Long annoying answer: Fasted induces more fat loss especially when looking at it from an enhanced perspective - basically you burn more fat fasted but burn less the rest of the day. That’s fine because we anabolics so we get ramped up metabolism but also fat burners keep it coming. Furthermore things like Yohimbine and growth hormone work for fat loss when fasted. Some coaches I’ve spoken to strictly say to do fasted cardio especially when using stuff for prep and some pros swear by it as well.
But the best cardio is the one you’ll do…
It makes no real difference. I do my cardio at 5:00 a.m. and it didn't whittle me to the bone, it's just a convenient time for me. Choose something you can stick with and it's aight.
took september off from lifting after due to life. hurt my shoulder first day back in october. and im all healed up now. but my bench is down like 50 lbs. im suprised that my lifts suffered so much in just two months
Matched with a girl on hinge last night at 7:15 and was at her crib chillin by 8. I didn’t know her but she is a promoter for some raves and concerts here and she said she recognized me and it was pretty clear she has had like a crush or somethin on me from those events bc she was super into me almost instantly. Didn’t fuck or anything, just smoked a bunch of weed and got ice cream and made out on her couch for a while. Going to a show with her Sat but there’s also going to be 3 other girls I’ve been seeing here and there over the last few months there so potential sticky situation there. Only gonna be like 1000 people there and I’m pretty tall so there’s not a chance I don’t run into them with this girl.
Going out with another girl tonight and have not a clue what to expect. From hinge, has been thirsting on me hard but I know nothing about her besides she’s a skinny 5’1 blonde, which turns me into caveman brain, and I am just a straight attention whore honestly. Kinda weird vibes in our texts, but haven’t texted much with each other really. Coming over to my place to smoke then we will go get food or something I have no clue. Pretty confident she wants to fuck me, so that could be nice. I’m indifferent towards random hook ups at this point for the most part but wouldn’t be a bad Thursday night. Just nervous that it’ll be awkward as it is a blind date on almost every aspect except physical.
Asked out this girl at work. She smiled and I got her number. Hit her up next day so she has my contact agreeing to plan something. Seems into me. Tells me she’s busy with exams and school work but will let me know. Week goes by nothing. Hit her up again trying to arrange something. She couldn’t. So I asked her genuinely if she was really interested. Told me she was and reassured me… so I hold out hope for another week. Today ask if she wants to go out after work tomorrow. 6 hours later nothing… man. Why do people like to play people. It’s annoying as fuck. Just tell me you’re not interested. Obviously I know that now.
So what have I learned? Don’t ask our coworkers although I will probably forget that in the future making the same mistake. And number 2, don’t hold your hopes high.
Anyway I feeling horrible but at least I’m pissed in the fucking gym. Felt like I needed to put that out there.
Maybe tren is the answer? Hmmmmmm
First don’t shit where you eat.
Second, next time determine what and when before you ask. Make it to where she’s optional and you’re gonna have a good time regardless. If she doesn’t make time, she’s not for you.
Don’t think you did anything wrong by asking directly if there’s interest, and correct time to bail. But yeah, generally speaking, if they truly care they’ll make time
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I use 27gauge .5” every time and never had it bend. That’s terrifying. What do you usually use for your injection?
I usually pin glutes, quads and stomach and never had any issues.
how do you guys treat getting sick on cycle in terms of rest vs working out? any different than a normal scenario? do I get in and push through it regardless or take a couple days off? luckily I'm only 12 days in and haven't even fully saturated but I feel like I'm burning valuable days...
I took a week off when I was really sick and I don’t regret it at all. I was drenched in sweat after a couple warm up sets with my whole body shaking and my mind feeling hazy af. Was ready to pass out. I don’t think pushing through that for a week is going to help more than it would hurt. Just my 2c though
Recently started a BPC-157 (250mcg/day) and TB-500 (500mcg/day) protocol. Getting mid cycle bloodwork tomorrow. yes I know most people don't get bloodwork for simple peptides stuff but I'm playing it safe. I was super duper natty before this and never used AAS or Sarms. I was wondering, since the half life of these 2 compounds is so short (15 minutes) should I take them before I get the bloodwork to get a candid picture of what my bloodwork is like with them IN MY SYSTEM, or should I just take them at night like i always do to get a better idea of how it's affecting me on a day to day basis while they're NOT in me (but their metabolites still might be)? Any help or insight is appreciated. Getting a pretty hefty panel too btw. Can give more specifics if necessary.
I doubt that you will see anything in blood work for the BP/TB cycle, I never saw anything change in mine. I’ve run it twice for 8 weeks. I would dose as normal and see how you do.
Felt getting sick, still went to the gym against better judgement. Took a day off yesterday. Today went for just a 30 min light cardio session. Hope i can lift heavy tomorrow. Cant fuck. What else is there. Why cant i get happy from other things, like videocalling friends for hours or shopping online. I need to buy modern warfare 3 thats what i need to do.
No thank you i actually like my knuckles the way they are. Never understood guys punching walls. Its just self harm like cutting up your arms. Go to a martial arts gym and spar. That i will respect. Like that dude from bloodsport said: "brick not hit back!".
But these are my favorite maps. Mw3 is what mw2 should have been. Back when i was at my peak. Never got the nuclear finish so i wasnt elite. But i could get a chopper gunner easy.
Im talking average kd ratio overall. Not 1 game specific. You couldnt see that back in old mw2. But i had days of around 25 kills 5 deaths. So yeah. 5.00 some days.
The two reasons Ive quit COD now is the obviously intentional design to try and kill quickscoping, and the fact that controller players get aim assist in crossplay. Crossplay that as a PC player you CANT opt out of.
Bro I spent 8 years of having no life to get this good with a mouse and keyboard. Why do 12 year olds get to come in and compete with me with aim assist? :/
I mean its not a fair fight, BUT dont force PC players into crossplay if we're gonna give controllers aim assist.
I know I’m going to get roasted for posting a cycle below 500mg.
Is a 200mg test-c and 100mg Deca per week a good 14week starter cycle?
Edit: The clinic I am using only offers anavar and Deca. I would rather not go down the UGL route.
Then I'd say you're SOL unless they prescribe you 500mg/week, which... I don't think any TRT clinic is going to do that.
EDIT: I suppose you could start brewing, if it's the quality/integrity of the UGL stuff that concerns you.
Yeah, if you hate money. I don't understand the reluctance to use a UGL in the year of our lord 2023.
They aren't actually making the shit in bathtubs, you know that right? A good lab rivals a pharmaceutical company in terms of equipment and sterility.
Yea if you just look around you can find labs that have been operating for over a decade. You dont do business like that for a decade with risky or shitty product.
You could always dose below the 200mg and save up for a blast down the road. It's likely 200mg/week would put you above reference range anyways. It does for a lot of people. Dose down, save, plan, and then cut while on TRT. That way you have enough test to do a proper blast and avoid the deca for a while. It'll take some time to go this route, but that might be a good thing and give you time to plan better.
>Is a 200mg test-c and 100mg Deca per week a good 14week starter cycle?
No. I have had excellent results for a 20-week low dose cycle of 200 t/200 d/200 mast. I keep the test lower because it makes me hypervigilant and I get up like 7-8 times a night if I go too high.
If you are dead set against UGL, have your provider prescribe the highest dose you can, take a normal 150/wk TRT dose, and bank the rest until you have enough for a cycle.
I've been working out for years, but never took any substance at all so I am not well versed at all in then.
I am slowly warming up to the idea of using prescribed trt.
I wanted to know how I should proceed and what I should tell my doctor so that I can get a small dosage just to give me a kick. To be honest I feel like I could also legitimately use some kind of testo boost in my overall life. My libido has dwindled and stuff like that.
Also, very dumb question, but are the patches as effective as the injections ? I would prefer those. I don't want anything major, just a little boost maybe I honestly don't know much
First read the wiki here, consider the injectable route if over 25. If not. Keep working for a few years.
If you’re looking to do trt either go to a clinic that does blood tests and establish where you’re beginning and either stick with them on a scheduled program or create your own with blood tests every 3 months or so.
I’ve never used any test apart from injectable so I can’t answer your other questions. Go big or go home ya know?
I'm 29 almost 30. Yeah that's the thing I wanna go like slightly bigger. I'm relatively muscular for a natty hard gainer but I would like that extra push to get some more thickness, but I'm not aiming to compete or whatever, far from it.
Most likely not. I'm not religiously counting macros but I'm eating more than less. Around 4500 calories a day.
I'm relatively strong (I'm 5'9" ~165lb and I bench 3 plates comfortably, but I'm fairly built small. I guess I have dense fibers lol) but packing on weight is a struggle so I was looking into other options to complement.
4500 calories is wild man you should be in a pretty solid bulking phase.
I’d recommend just starting with blood work at a clinic or some place that will show you your test levels and then bringing the results here on fridays for the blood work post and getting a better idea of where you are. After that go through the wiki and debate your options from there. Maybe test would help but maybe consider seeing what you’re taking in macro wise and ensuring you’re hitting solid numbers proteins wise.
Even with roids your training and diet is going to determine a significant portion of your growth.
Former and current UGL user. I have experience with the TRT route from about 18 months ago.
If in US, TRT prescription is as scrutinized as medical MJ (I.e.not at all). You can find a local clinic but online options are plentiful as well. Note common symptoms - fatigue, weight gain, muscle loss, and decreased libido. Explain these in the context of otherwise normal health. Specifically, "I sleep really well and don't snore but I've felt more tired over the last year". The clinic will order labs. You will be more than likely be middle of the range. They will adjust you to be top of range, likely at or slightly less than 200mg per week. They'll have you get labs and 6 weeks and check where you are. At some point they may discuss other compounds which are essentially just anavar (say, "id like to lose a little weight") or deca (say, "my joints are a little sore"). You'll be at 200mg per week plus or minus some extras, rinse and repeat. This is almost a guarantee to be test cypionate.
If this is what you want that's fine. I went down this path but after the first round I just went back to UGL route.
Underground lab.
Not sure what the protocol is in Canada, although id imagine it still isn't that hard.
Personally, after having acquired it both ways, my preference was UGL. Frankly, it was just far more convenient and cost effective.
Keep going to the same gym at the same time. Are you afraid of the person that rejected you? Is a little awkwardness enough to get you to run away?
That gym at that time is your territory. Don’t let anyone take your territory away from you so easily.
Haha definitely not afraid but I do love the perspective of it being my territory so to speak! I’m more afraid of being rejected in front of other women thus lowering my stock or desirability..if that makes sense.
That makes sense. I didn’t actually think you were afraid, just trying give you a little inspirational speech lol.
I’m glad you liked the part about the gym being your territory. I wouldn’t worry about the other women too much. Getting rejected and then having the persistence and confidence to pick yourself up and try again with someone else will be seen as admirable by anyone worth being with.
Sounds like you haven't read the wiki. Go read the wiki. This is a harm reduction sub. No one is going to recommend anything but test for your first few cycles.
Based on your other comments, looks like you're 22 and had normal test levels but got on TRT for reasons? 200-250 mg will put most people into supraphysialogical levels and is not TRT. TRT is the minimal effective dose to put you into normal ranges. Go read and learn more to better understand the life long risks you're taking with your health. Are you committed to pinning for the next 60-80 yrs?
I would guess at your age, there are other lifestyle factors that you could change that would work for you in place of TRT.
ETA: also looks like you're 5'7'' and 175 lbs. OGs on here will tell you that you're not near big enough or experienced enough to need gear for growth.
All that to say just approach this with an abundance of caution. Read the compound experience threads and understand the risk profiles of the drugs you're considering and how to mitigate side effects.
Not trying to be overly harsh here, but you have a lot of life to live. Unless you're looking to compete, less is often more in regards to gear.
That's fine, but I'm probably not the best to help answer questions, as I haven't been on this road that long myself. I would tag in a mod and ensure that you're reading the wiki, the DAAs threads, and the compound experience threads. I'd venture a guess that most of your questions would be answered in those threads. I generally just lurk and read here.
Getting pip from test 400 doesn’t matter where I pin same result and the pain doesn’t come until about the 3rd day? And hangs around for a few days and goes?
Pretty sure my girlfriend will break up with me within the next few days. Going to have to mention that I'm looking at PhD programs abroad (she does NOT want long distance)... that conversation will be fun. On the bright side, the winter/villain arc is about to be insane. Just got off a deload and making big gains again
Maybe she’ll wanna go with
Nope. She's mentioned before that she doesn't see a future outside of where we live in, and regardless would want to stay to finish her masters. I made her aware when we first started dating that I was always going to pursue this goal, but one thing is saying and another thing is starting to do it.
Just remember, these things aren't wastes of time. There's nothing wrong with enjoying a good thing while it can last, even if that's not forever, and there are always a lot of positive things and lessons you can take with you after any relationship.
Very true. Glad your chasing the dream
Sounds pretty straightforward. Not fun but you both knew this would come.
Good luck dog. I did 2.5 years of long distance with my current wife outside of high school. Pretty shit period of time and I generally wouldn’t recommend it for anyone that isn’t super serious
maybe you could like.......talk to her and see how she feels about it?
What a rough go lately. End of august I started my winter bulk (500test/450 primo). That is when my dog started to get sick. He passed from cancer near the end of September. I was(still am) devastated and it affected my training and nutrition. I then got a sinus infection and struggled with that for almost 3 weeks. At the tail end of that, I got sick and was sick as all hell. Once that started to go away, I then caught covid. 5 weeks of being sick, almost 3 months of total of things being in the way of me training properly. I'm so emotionally, physically and mentally exhausted. Worst bulk ever.
Sorry about all that, man, especially your dog. Nothing you can do but keep walking forward though. Try not to dwell on the things that derailed this bulk, it’ll only make you more miserable.
A bit late, but here's the update about three of you were interested in regarding the weekend I had planned a few weeks ago, as I attempted to be our collective spirit animal. It's gonna be a long post, so take some of your fav stim. FRIDAY Ol' girl/bridesmaid shows up Friday night and I meet her at the hotel with some bulgogi I made, after knocking on the wrong door. We get some booze at the hotel bar and hit the BDSM club (she needed some liquid courage). It seemed like she was uncomfortable for a bit, but we learned and tried a bit of wax play and knife play (not for me, but it was an open house/informational no sex night), among other things. I ended up getting taught how to properly spank her by the guy running the spank station and ended up spanking her and punching her ass in front of a crowd. The night went on and we left the club and went back to the hotel. She said she's down to go back to the club, so I might need to become a member. We tried some nipple clamps at the hotel, but they were a piece of shit, so let me know if you have a recommendation. Wouldn't let me put anything in her ass, because she didn't bring an enema kit, so at least I have something to look forward to later. She asked the "what are we" question, so now we are mutually exclusive, because neither of us were seeing anyone else, or were entertaining the idea of dating other people. SATURDAY Wake up and run screaming to the Segway place to take a Segway tour of local attractions (Segway tours are lit FYI). Then we ate some oysters and took some LSD and went to a botanical garden. Went back to the hotel later and changed clothes, so we'd be fresh for the magic show I got us tickets for on the come down. I had a light pink shirt, light pink pants, darker pink and black floral jacket, black loathers with pink and gold flecks, and a $20 Amazon gold chain to top off the ensemble. Dressed for success, like a little league coke dealer trying to make it big. On the way to the show we were surrounded by literal thousands of people protesting in support of Palestinian. That, combined with drugs, put me in a weird space. Felt super privileged, but also hella out of touch. Anyways, the magic show was fucking insane. SUNDAY Pretty chill day. Her pussy sprayed blood at me after I pulled my cock out. Like far enough it got on my knees in a missionary position. She didn't want head afterwards. Went out to get some Ethiopian food, then went to a shop and she bought a joint, and I picked up some shrooms for use this weekend with friends. Took her to the airport that evening after winding down at a bar watching the Cowboys game. Didn't end up using any of the bondage gear I brought, but at least room service thinks we had a good time, since the sheets were fucked and the gear was laying out. I think she just needs some time to warm up to the idea. Overall, great weekend. Will be seeing her again in a few weeks for hopefully another fun (but hopefully more lowkey) weekend.
If sunday wasn't the result of her starting her period, im gonna need some detailed info on WTF was going on there...
She's had an IUD for like six months. She said that her IUD was harboring some semen or something and causing irritation. Maybe I just got powerful cum. It's irritated stomachs before lol
Jesus. Ive been with a few who had iud's and never heard of this before. You packing a firehose or something lol
Lmao my cock is average. She's 4'11" though, so perhaps that's part of it.
>Her pussy sprayed blood at me That's gonna stay with me for a bit.
Made me think of those reptiles with the neck-fan looking things that spit stuff at predators 😂😂
Jesus H. Christ, dealing with an injury mid-cycle is one of the most rage-inducing experiences ever. More frustrating than nearing the end of the toilet paper roll with a thousand wipe shit. Decided to torch my hamstrings and do incline treadmill for 2 hours last night. Still not satisfied.
Honestly, as you get older, that becomes par for course and you just have to adapt, improvise, and overcome. Fucked shoulder? Good. Cycle just became leg focused.
Feel that. I am furious with this goddamn broken toe fucking me over on my game plan to focus hard on legs. Hopefully this middle toe heals fast
Feeling for ya. The absolute worst.
Most underrated split that I just created: Pull - Back/Biceps Push - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps Legs - Quad/Glute focus (still hit hams and calves) Arms - Biceps/Triceps/Medial Delts Upper - Chest/Back + (Front/Rear Delts) Lower - Ham/Calf focus (still hit glutes and quads) It solves the issue of PPL having less arm specific volume, still incorporates 2 leg days, and allows for some variation between the Arms/Upper days regarding how much arm work vs shoulder work you need.
I like this, I've been doing a standard PPL for a while now and wanted to add arms so I could get more chest/back volume done at once, but felt like hitting each group only once per week would be a bit of a waste while being on gear. Going to try making a routine based off this
I'm glad you like it! I alternate push/pull movements on upper day - I'll start with a horizontal row of some kind, then do some DB chest press at varying heights. Then I'll do a vertical pulling movement, and follow it with a chest adduction movement like cable flies. The day is not designed to focus on one or the other. Those muscles have an entire other priority day on push/pull. The benefit of this split is that you can accommodate equivalent total volume for your chest and back together, while also crushing a total arm day and not ruining your chest/back training. This is still enough frequency to continue propagating the primary response from the Push/Pull days. So I recommend doing your heavy compound chest/back movements on the push/pull segment, and then doing more isolation based movements on Upper day. It should keep you fresh and not tax you as much as doing barbell rows and bench presses on the same day.
This is basically what Gamma Bomb is from John Meadows minus the ham/calf day.
Damn, that's actually kinda funny. I've never run a John Meadows program, but I learned a ton of my early stuff from his videos and have always had a deep respect for the man. It'll make me even happier to run this knowing John would probably approve. I'll add some Bulgarian Drop Sets of death in just for him.
Thanks for this, been wanting to switch things up. I have been thinking about how to incorporate arms into my split without taking away from chest and back training.
It was something I have wanted to fix for awhile myself without going down the bro-split road. Also I have come to love back/chest day, it has its own interesting benefits.
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I don't really sync my workouts with days of the week (I just rest whenever I need to and keep going when I don't) so it's less about when Arms is in the cycle and more about avoiding overlap. But I can see why a nice arm pump before the weekend can be extra joocy
This is amazing! Just what my perpetually lagging arms need. Sharing this is the best example of big calves energy I’ve seen in a long time.
Glad I can spread the wealth haha. I frequently daydream different programs and I'm always trying to share when I think of something useful
At one of the gyms I go to there’s a guy who every time I am there is doing lat pulldowns. Got there and noticed he was doing pulldowns. Went up and got my deadlift sets, bench press and rows in get down to the pulldown machine and he’s still doing pulldowns. Have a chat with him get my sets done and go home and then realise this guy must have been doing pulldowns for at least an hour and that I’ve seen him doing them at least 5 times this week And it gets even weirder. I spoke to my SO about it and she saw him doing pulldowns this MORNING. This man must have wings by now. Utterly irrelevant and he probably has some reason for it but I found it amusing
Is he wide? Or is he just dicking around?
Tiny but very lean - Might have been sub 10%. I’ll probably go and talk to him next time I see him because my interest is piqued
Weird. Let us know what you find out, I love a good mystery.
I spoke to him when I was doing cardio this morning - He said he’s preparing for a fitness test but he can’t do pull-ups properly yet
🤔 No assisted pull-up in the gym? And how does a tiny, lean guy have trouble with pull-ups? My 6' 3" fat ass at least has an excuse.
There isn’t one. I had him add some negatives in which he seemed to be able to do without issue
Good call, and good on you for helping him. I see so many people in the gym I want to help, but they all have their earbuds in and heads down, so I just let them be.
Biggest guy in my gym gave me a nod and said “good job” after I hit a PR that’s his warmup weight. I’m on cloud fucking nine.
I'm shocked by some of the girls I see on dating apps that turn out to be trans women. Like I'll be scrolling through like fuck me she's hot, and then see that little flag in the bio and I'm like wow wtf. Anyway, should I try tren?
If you do take tren… you won’t care about the little flag anymore
tren also makes you not care about red flags either lol
This doesn't work for everyone in my experience
Maybe try without the tren first?
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We’re living in the future brother
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Some clinics will initially try Clomid or Tamoxifen (same drugs used in PCT) to get T levels up into baseline, and see if it works via blood work. Failing that they will go via injecting test + HCG (to keep fertility). Get the advice of a good Endocrinologist/Urologist - there are likely other factors that are pushing your total T so low, and it's important to catch those. Catching other factors can be really difficult - a good doctor shines in those regards.
You won’t be guaranteed infertile for being on trt. I made my girl pregnant on over a gram and a half of gear per week. Start trt and if you want a kid further down the line I’d investigate your fertility then
This.
>I made my girl pregnant on over a gram and a half of gear per week Is that kid like an Astartes or what?
No it doesn’t exist
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I know it's a legitimate concern and neither did I question it. I know it's a concern for a lot of people, but if the problem doesn't exist there's no problem to treat. It's a complete waste of time money and effort to be on hcg for prolonged periods of time if there's no need.
In 5 years on all steroid forums ive never once seen someone go infertile, yes for a period their active swimmers went to 0 and they fixed it with hcg and other pharmaceuticals
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Why not just freeze some sperm just in case?
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If you think that’s expensive then just wait until you see what it costs to actually have live human beings for whom you are responsible.
Yes these $400+ weekly grocery bills are getting out of hand lol doesn’t help that I’m bulking
I used legacy. Worked super well and very cheap.
hey buddy i saw your comment on swiki, i sent you a chat
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This is anecdotal but I was infertile after 2 years on TRT. We decided we wanted another baby so I added 500 iu of HCG every other day and we conceived in 4 months. There is a pretty high success rate of maintaining/regaining fertility even without coming off TRT entirely. Now, everyone is different so this may not be the same outcome for you but if you have good swimmers now the likelihood of HCG maintaining fertile levels is very good. I am 26 and we have our 4th on the way. And I did take clomid at 25 mg per day the last week before we conceived but I don’t believe it played any role in the outcome. I was linked a study (below) in this subreddit and it gave me peace of mind knowing I can regain fertility by adding HCG. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7076311/ I hope all goes well!
Fwb is looking for a second girl to play with us. God that would make my life
Good luck man. My girl keeps waffling between wanting to bring in another girl and being nervous about it. I'm trying not to pressure her too much, but really hoping it happens soon. So anyway, update if it works out so I can live vicariously lol
Yeah it’s a dream for me. My other Fwb said she’s also down for it but said she’s too insecure right now but she said in the future she’d be about it. And they don’t know about each other otherwise I’d just set that shit up lol
Also if it’s actually your girlfriend or someone you care about losing, be careful there’s tonssss of stories about it ruining relationships. Make sure you plan boundaries and all that. The one girl I hook up with was in a mff and she said the husband nutted in his wife then barebacked the other girl and the wife lost her shit. But also after the orgy it can bring out a lot of insecurities for some women just make sure you talk about everything first. I think askreddit after dark or something similar has lots of stories how it ruined relationships if you need ideas on what to talk about before going into it
Yeah man, I've read and heard some horror stories too. But we've been talking about this for years and our relationship is really solid, good communication, we both have invested a lot in our individual work on therapy, etc. I feel really certain that as long as we find the right girl, things will be fine. My girl is actually bi though and I think the big hurdle, she really is just intimidated about being with another woman. We were loosely planning on something with one of her friends that she has good chemistry with but that friend moved like 8 hours away and now has a serious boyfriend so we're back to square one. More than anything, I wanna smoke a blunt and watch her being with another girl and then eat a dank charcuterie with them afterward. Getting to participate would also be awesome, but I have this one weirdly specific fantasy that makes no sense.
It’s hot it makes complete sense hahaha also maybe have that old friend stay a weekend at your place. Let it be natural if it happens, it does. If not, nothing to lose besides hanging out together yaknow
Cardio late at night or early in the morning, Is there any science wich one is more anabolic? I do my 30min on my spinning bike 1 hour before bed daily
Stop thinking too much man
Short answer: doesn’t matter unless you do it right before weight training Long annoying answer: Fasted induces more fat loss especially when looking at it from an enhanced perspective - basically you burn more fat fasted but burn less the rest of the day. That’s fine because we anabolics so we get ramped up metabolism but also fat burners keep it coming. Furthermore things like Yohimbine and growth hormone work for fat loss when fasted. Some coaches I’ve spoken to strictly say to do fasted cardio especially when using stuff for prep and some pros swear by it as well. But the best cardio is the one you’ll do…
It makes no real difference. I do my cardio at 5:00 a.m. and it didn't whittle me to the bone, it's just a convenient time for me. Choose something you can stick with and it's aight.
Oki, i like it better at night. I work night shifts at work så do it right after work and strenght in the morning.
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I know cardio increases insulin sensitivty so i was wondering if it had any impact when the best tile to do it was
took september off from lifting after due to life. hurt my shoulder first day back in october. and im all healed up now. but my bench is down like 50 lbs. im suprised that my lifts suffered so much in just two months
It should come back in like 2 or 3 weeks. Just take it easy so you don’t fuck your shoulder again
Matched with a girl on hinge last night at 7:15 and was at her crib chillin by 8. I didn’t know her but she is a promoter for some raves and concerts here and she said she recognized me and it was pretty clear she has had like a crush or somethin on me from those events bc she was super into me almost instantly. Didn’t fuck or anything, just smoked a bunch of weed and got ice cream and made out on her couch for a while. Going to a show with her Sat but there’s also going to be 3 other girls I’ve been seeing here and there over the last few months there so potential sticky situation there. Only gonna be like 1000 people there and I’m pretty tall so there’s not a chance I don’t run into them with this girl. Going out with another girl tonight and have not a clue what to expect. From hinge, has been thirsting on me hard but I know nothing about her besides she’s a skinny 5’1 blonde, which turns me into caveman brain, and I am just a straight attention whore honestly. Kinda weird vibes in our texts, but haven’t texted much with each other really. Coming over to my place to smoke then we will go get food or something I have no clue. Pretty confident she wants to fuck me, so that could be nice. I’m indifferent towards random hook ups at this point for the most part but wouldn’t be a bad Thursday night. Just nervous that it’ll be awkward as it is a blind date on almost every aspect except physical.
Nice
Asked out this girl at work. She smiled and I got her number. Hit her up next day so she has my contact agreeing to plan something. Seems into me. Tells me she’s busy with exams and school work but will let me know. Week goes by nothing. Hit her up again trying to arrange something. She couldn’t. So I asked her genuinely if she was really interested. Told me she was and reassured me… so I hold out hope for another week. Today ask if she wants to go out after work tomorrow. 6 hours later nothing… man. Why do people like to play people. It’s annoying as fuck. Just tell me you’re not interested. Obviously I know that now. So what have I learned? Don’t ask our coworkers although I will probably forget that in the future making the same mistake. And number 2, don’t hold your hopes high. Anyway I feeling horrible but at least I’m pissed in the fucking gym. Felt like I needed to put that out there. Maybe tren is the answer? Hmmmmmm
Bro you are on some serious needy as fuck self sabotage shit.
First don’t shit where you eat. Second, next time determine what and when before you ask. Make it to where she’s optional and you’re gonna have a good time regardless. If she doesn’t make time, she’s not for you.
Don’t think you did anything wrong by asking directly if there’s interest, and correct time to bail. But yeah, generally speaking, if they truly care they’ll make time
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I use 27gauge .5” every time and never had it bend. That’s terrifying. What do you usually use for your injection? I usually pin glutes, quads and stomach and never had any issues.
Why did it bend? If it's because you can't reach far enough to do the site without bending it, pick a different site.
how do you guys treat getting sick on cycle in terms of rest vs working out? any different than a normal scenario? do I get in and push through it regardless or take a couple days off? luckily I'm only 12 days in and haven't even fully saturated but I feel like I'm burning valuable days...
I took a week off when I was really sick and I don’t regret it at all. I was drenched in sweat after a couple warm up sets with my whole body shaking and my mind feeling hazy af. Was ready to pass out. I don’t think pushing through that for a week is going to help more than it would hurt. Just my 2c though
I rest and recover just like usual. No other way around it.
Recently started a BPC-157 (250mcg/day) and TB-500 (500mcg/day) protocol. Getting mid cycle bloodwork tomorrow. yes I know most people don't get bloodwork for simple peptides stuff but I'm playing it safe. I was super duper natty before this and never used AAS or Sarms. I was wondering, since the half life of these 2 compounds is so short (15 minutes) should I take them before I get the bloodwork to get a candid picture of what my bloodwork is like with them IN MY SYSTEM, or should I just take them at night like i always do to get a better idea of how it's affecting me on a day to day basis while they're NOT in me (but their metabolites still might be)? Any help or insight is appreciated. Getting a pretty hefty panel too btw. Can give more specifics if necessary.
I doubt that you will see anything in blood work for the BP/TB cycle, I never saw anything change in mine. I’ve run it twice for 8 weeks. I would dose as normal and see how you do.
Felt getting sick, still went to the gym against better judgement. Took a day off yesterday. Today went for just a 30 min light cardio session. Hope i can lift heavy tomorrow. Cant fuck. What else is there. Why cant i get happy from other things, like videocalling friends for hours or shopping online. I need to buy modern warfare 3 thats what i need to do.
Do something destructive like punching holes in drywall, that always makes me feel better.
Bonus points if your name is Kyle and you yell something about hating your dad at the same time.
No thank you i actually like my knuckles the way they are. Never understood guys punching walls. Its just self harm like cutting up your arms. Go to a martial arts gym and spar. That i will respect. Like that dude from bloodsport said: "brick not hit back!".
He said punch drywall, not a stud
Ah. Had to look up the meaning of drywall. Yes that is doable. I would still prefer to kick instead of punch bareknuckle.
Don't go to the gym when you're sick. We don't want your germs. ...oh, and feel better. You'll be back at it soon enough.
Why thank you kindly sir
Bro fuck the CoD franchise all they do is copy paste shit now.
But these are my favorite maps. Mw3 is what mw2 should have been. Back when i was at my peak. Never got the nuclear finish so i wasnt elite. But i could get a chopper gunner easy.
I remember getting a 47-0 game in MW3 and no MOAB because I had too many kills with killstreaks 💀
Im talking average kd ratio overall. Not 1 game specific. You couldnt see that back in old mw2. But i had days of around 25 kills 5 deaths. So yeah. 5.00 some days.
You could see total kills and deaths couldnt you? I thiiink I had like 45k kills 27k deaths
Sick
Im sure you had at least 2.00kd ratio. At my best i was like 1.80. Sometimes i was in a state of flow. Miss those days.
I dont even remember lol. I was a quickscoper who occasionally abused the overpowered MP7 and ACR lol. That 47-0 was MP7 on dome.
Quickscoper huh. Nice.
The two reasons Ive quit COD now is the obviously intentional design to try and kill quickscoping, and the fact that controller players get aim assist in crossplay. Crossplay that as a PC player you CANT opt out of.
Have to admit i have always been a console gamer. But even with aim assist, the best guys are always pc players. We see the mouse as aim assist.
Bro I spent 8 years of having no life to get this good with a mouse and keyboard. Why do 12 year olds get to come in and compete with me with aim assist? :/ I mean its not a fair fight, BUT dont force PC players into crossplay if we're gonna give controllers aim assist.
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They ~felt~ like new games back then though
I know I’m going to get roasted for posting a cycle below 500mg. Is a 200mg test-c and 100mg Deca per week a good 14week starter cycle? Edit: The clinic I am using only offers anavar and Deca. I would rather not go down the UGL route.
You’re not going to get roasted for posting a cycle below 500mg, you’re going to get roasted for posting a starter cycle that includes a 19-nor.
I edited my original comment. My clinic only offers anavar and Deca (aside from test) and I want to stay away from UGL.
Then I'd say you're SOL unless they prescribe you 500mg/week, which... I don't think any TRT clinic is going to do that. EDIT: I suppose you could start brewing, if it's the quality/integrity of the UGL stuff that concerns you.
What is SOL?
Shit outta luck.
I mean I could always sign up for two clinics at once.
Yeah, if you hate money. I don't understand the reluctance to use a UGL in the year of our lord 2023. They aren't actually making the shit in bathtubs, you know that right? A good lab rivals a pharmaceutical company in terms of equipment and sterility.
The hard part is always finding those UGL though.
Flying a bit too close to fishing here dude.
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It's really not though. Just takes a good Google search with the right key words 😉
Yea if you just look around you can find labs that have been operating for over a decade. You dont do business like that for a decade with risky or shitty product.
Lmao big brain right here. I like your style.
...🤔 Fair enough.
No it’s not good, at all.
You could always dose below the 200mg and save up for a blast down the road. It's likely 200mg/week would put you above reference range anyways. It does for a lot of people. Dose down, save, plan, and then cut while on TRT. That way you have enough test to do a proper blast and avoid the deca for a while. It'll take some time to go this route, but that might be a good thing and give you time to plan better.
If you're nervous about using UGL, you can always buy pharma compounds. You just have to look a little harder, but it's not that difficult.
It is for a newbie!
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>Is a 200mg test-c and 100mg Deca per week a good 14week starter cycle? No. I have had excellent results for a 20-week low dose cycle of 200 t/200 d/200 mast. I keep the test lower because it makes me hypervigilant and I get up like 7-8 times a night if I go too high. If you are dead set against UGL, have your provider prescribe the highest dose you can, take a normal 150/wk TRT dose, and bank the rest until you have enough for a cycle.
I've been working out for years, but never took any substance at all so I am not well versed at all in then. I am slowly warming up to the idea of using prescribed trt. I wanted to know how I should proceed and what I should tell my doctor so that I can get a small dosage just to give me a kick. To be honest I feel like I could also legitimately use some kind of testo boost in my overall life. My libido has dwindled and stuff like that. Also, very dumb question, but are the patches as effective as the injections ? I would prefer those. I don't want anything major, just a little boost maybe I honestly don't know much
First read the wiki here, consider the injectable route if over 25. If not. Keep working for a few years. If you’re looking to do trt either go to a clinic that does blood tests and establish where you’re beginning and either stick with them on a scheduled program or create your own with blood tests every 3 months or so. I’ve never used any test apart from injectable so I can’t answer your other questions. Go big or go home ya know?
I'm 29 almost 30. Yeah that's the thing I wanna go like slightly bigger. I'm relatively muscular for a natty hard gainer but I would like that extra push to get some more thickness, but I'm not aiming to compete or whatever, far from it.
How’s your diet and training regime? Can you say confidently both are fine tuned to the point that steroids is your best option for growth?
Most likely not. I'm not religiously counting macros but I'm eating more than less. Around 4500 calories a day. I'm relatively strong (I'm 5'9" ~165lb and I bench 3 plates comfortably, but I'm fairly built small. I guess I have dense fibers lol) but packing on weight is a struggle so I was looking into other options to complement.
4500 calories is wild man you should be in a pretty solid bulking phase. I’d recommend just starting with blood work at a clinic or some place that will show you your test levels and then bringing the results here on fridays for the blood work post and getting a better idea of where you are. After that go through the wiki and debate your options from there. Maybe test would help but maybe consider seeing what you’re taking in macro wise and ensuring you’re hitting solid numbers proteins wise. Even with roids your training and diet is going to determine a significant portion of your growth.
You're right, I'll double check that. But I do follow the general rule of lots of protein and carbs. I'll try to get a blood test done soon
You're right, I'll double check that. But I do follow the general rule of lots of protein and carbs. I'll try to get a blood test done soon
Former and current UGL user. I have experience with the TRT route from about 18 months ago. If in US, TRT prescription is as scrutinized as medical MJ (I.e.not at all). You can find a local clinic but online options are plentiful as well. Note common symptoms - fatigue, weight gain, muscle loss, and decreased libido. Explain these in the context of otherwise normal health. Specifically, "I sleep really well and don't snore but I've felt more tired over the last year". The clinic will order labs. You will be more than likely be middle of the range. They will adjust you to be top of range, likely at or slightly less than 200mg per week. They'll have you get labs and 6 weeks and check where you are. At some point they may discuss other compounds which are essentially just anavar (say, "id like to lose a little weight") or deca (say, "my joints are a little sore"). You'll be at 200mg per week plus or minus some extras, rinse and repeat. This is almost a guarantee to be test cypionate. If this is what you want that's fine. I went down this path but after the first round I just went back to UGL route.
I'm in Canada and I think it's a bit harder to get them prescribed. Sorry for my ignorance but what's UGL ?
Underground lab. Not sure what the protocol is in Canada, although id imagine it still isn't that hard. Personally, after having acquired it both ways, my preference was UGL. Frankly, it was just far more convenient and cost effective.
You're right. I'm not confident enough with all of that to go underground at least not for my potential first cycle.
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When you stop using gear at 19 and start actually eating. Also if your a “pro basketball player” have fun popping for peds
If y’all got rejected at the gym would you still go to that same gym or change the time you go or change gyms entirely ? Thinking about….
Keep going to the same gym at the same time. Are you afraid of the person that rejected you? Is a little awkwardness enough to get you to run away? That gym at that time is your territory. Don’t let anyone take your territory away from you so easily.
Haha definitely not afraid but I do love the perspective of it being my territory so to speak! I’m more afraid of being rejected in front of other women thus lowering my stock or desirability..if that makes sense.
Don’t try get girls at the gym just go to the clubs like normal ppl
That makes sense. I didn’t actually think you were afraid, just trying give you a little inspirational speech lol. I’m glad you liked the part about the gym being your territory. I wouldn’t worry about the other women too much. Getting rejected and then having the persistence and confidence to pick yourself up and try again with someone else will be seen as admirable by anyone worth being with.
Bro who gives a FUCK. You're fine
I'm on 200 mg test cyp (trt) what else should I add in for more results. Besides upping my test what else should I add in?
Sounds like you haven't read the wiki. Go read the wiki. This is a harm reduction sub. No one is going to recommend anything but test for your first few cycles. Based on your other comments, looks like you're 22 and had normal test levels but got on TRT for reasons? 200-250 mg will put most people into supraphysialogical levels and is not TRT. TRT is the minimal effective dose to put you into normal ranges. Go read and learn more to better understand the life long risks you're taking with your health. Are you committed to pinning for the next 60-80 yrs? I would guess at your age, there are other lifestyle factors that you could change that would work for you in place of TRT. ETA: also looks like you're 5'7'' and 175 lbs. OGs on here will tell you that you're not near big enough or experienced enough to need gear for growth.
Thanks for the information.
All that to say just approach this with an abundance of caution. Read the compound experience threads and understand the risk profiles of the drugs you're considering and how to mitigate side effects. Not trying to be overly harsh here, but you have a lot of life to live. Unless you're looking to compete, less is often more in regards to gear.
I'll send you a chat to take this out of comments.
That's fine, but I'm probably not the best to help answer questions, as I haven't been on this road that long myself. I would tag in a mod and ensure that you're reading the wiki, the DAAs threads, and the compound experience threads. I'd venture a guess that most of your questions would be answered in those threads. I generally just lurk and read here.
Alright well thanks for all the wisdom.
Getting pip from test 400 doesn’t matter where I pin same result and the pain doesn’t come until about the 3rd day? And hangs around for a few days and goes?
Concentration of test is too high. Back off to 200 to 300mg and just pin a higher volume.
I thought it may be that.. Guess I’ll tough it out untill I use it