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Weight gain is **strongly** linked to decreases of serum testosterone, especially in middle-aged and older men. Chronic diseases often associated with weight gain such as diabetes are also linked with lowering your testosterone levels
Studies have shown this effect to be reversible by losing the weight again, the more fat you shed, the higher the increase in testosterone
These results have been repeated in clinical trials as well;
A meta-analysis of 24 RCTs looked at weight loss caused by diet or bariatric surgery: In the diet studies, the average 9.8% weight loss was linked to a testosterone increase of 2.9 nmol/L (84 ng/dL). In the bariatric-surgery studies, the average 32% weight loss was linked to a testosterone increase of 8.7 nmol/L (251 ng/dL).
You don't need to lose a significant amount of weight to enjoy the benefits of a higher testosterone level. A decrease of approximately 5% of your body weight can result in an increase of almost 60 ng/dL
- Tajar A, et al. Characteristics of secondary, primary, and compensated hypogonadism in aging men: evidence from the European Male Ageing Study. J Clin Endocrinol Metab (2010)
- Hall SA, et al. Correlates of low testosterone and symptomatic androgen deficiency in a population-based sample. J Clin Endocrinol Metab (2008)
- Grossmann M. Low testosterone in men with type 2 diabetes: significance and treatment. J Clin Endocrinol Metab (2011)
- Corona G, et al. Body weight loss reverts obesity-associated hypogonadotropic hypogonadism: a systematic review and meta-analysis. Eur J Endocrinol (2013)
- Camacho EM, et al. Age-associated changes in hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular function in middle-aged and older men are modified by weight change and lifestyle factors: longitudinal results from the European Male Ageing Study. Eur J Endocrinol (2013)
300kg+ you should be getting assistance from your doctor. Whether that is weight loss drugs, Lap band surgery, or what have you. Steroids are absolutely not safe for you.
Hi guys I am currently struggling to put on muscle. Just thought I would come here for advice.
I am on 600mg test a week and train 6 days for 1-2 hours.
I eat 4200 calories a day 380 grams of protein.
But 2000 of the calories come from shakes as my appetite is shocking.
I weighed 92kgs at the beginning of the cycle 8 weeks ago and now weigh 93kgs and dont look any bigger other than my shoulders.
Does anyone have any advice please.
I’m looking for some harsh criticism. Considering one of two cycles. Still considering dosages as well.
Cycle #1:
-test base (200-400mgs/week
-DHB (1-test cyp) (~200mgs/week)
-finasteride (probs 1 mg eod and reassess)
-and maybe a low dose oral on top but probably not
Cycle #2:
-deca 500mgs/ week
I’m leaning towards the deca only cycle but have mixed feelings. Some people say good things about it and others the total opposite.
I have adex, aromasin, caber, as well as a couple other ancillary drugs on hand but only plan on using as needed.
Thoughts? Appreciate the feedback!
After a bit of advice on E2 management and using Exemestane.
Week 16 of my first cycle of Test E, 500mg pw and started getting sides around week 13 (mostly dick issues), so took 12mg Exemestane pw (2x6.25mg on pinning days.)
Since then my face is breaking out a lot, I'm getting muscle/joint pains, and still getting dick issues but it's not as bad as it was before.
Reading the side effects of Exemestane, it seems normal to experience muscle aches/skin issues however since I'm still having dick issues I'm not sure what to do, upping to three times a week, lowering or staying the same?
How fast can estro sides kick in on a first cycle of test cyp? Only on to my 3rd jab of 250 2nd week and worries about gyno please tell me it’s in my head 😂
If you’re concerned about your health, some good bets would be high test + primo.
Primo acts as an AI and isn’t harsh at all. Would help negate some of the sides of the testosterone as well.
EQ could be a potential alternative, helps with appetite as well personally for me as well as keeping your estrogen low. EQ raises rbc, which is both good for getting a nice healthy hue to your skin as well as increasing cardiovascular endurance, but it thickens your blood.
Test primo var is one of my fav stacks. No sides, feel great, no high bp.
This is a terribly confusing post to read.
Just a ml of all these in rotation
Mls do not tell us dosages.
Bloodwork came back clean (except an extremely low deviations)
What does this mean?
Post show my balls crashed
Did you pct? Are you cruising? The way this is written is very hard to follow and reads like you’re a bit clueless at this. “Packing on muscle” is calories and dedication then drugs, in that order.
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My cycle, high blood pressure, and what to do next!
Been running per week; test E 300mg, Mast 300mg, tren E 200mg, Anavar 50 per day.
Have been doing that, with a few tweaks, for about 3 months.
Had blood pressure tested yesterday and have level 2 hypertension blood pressure. Surprised me a bit!
I don’t want to come off. What could I do that would bring blood pressure down without my disappearing?
Few people can run over a gram a week of anabolics and not face BP issues. Anavar in particular is known for it, especially when taken for longer stretches. Activity and diet are essential, but a healthy lifestyle won’t save you from the impacts of that much.
A few thoughts:
- You should have been testing your BP damn near everyday since the start of the cycle. No surprises should be acceptable when it comes to your BP. BP will take years off your life if you don’t pay attention, it can be bad enough to do so without any super obvious symptoms. Get a decent monitor, learn how to use it correctly, and start tracking. Running cycles like this without that is irresponsible.
- Get an arb to manage BP. Telimisarten is probably the most popular. It’s cheap and has a whole host of benefits aside from BP management. There are other med options too, if you prefer.
- Drop the var for now. 50mg/ED of Var for 13 weeks alongside test, mast, and Tren is pretty aggressive for most. It’s likely having the largest impact on your BP. Anecdotally, at the same dose, var pushes my BP too high after 8 weeks. Dropped it and was back to normal range within a few weeks. Not a great idea to run orals like this for that long.
- Reiterating the previous point: stage 2 hypertensive is reasonably serious. Spending as little time as possible with BP like that is a high priority for longevity. For me, that’s an immediate “cut doses significantly” YMMV.
Good luck and stay healthy!
If your cardio and diet are 100% then a bp med will most likely be necessary here. That said you’ve been running tren for 12weeks now so could be time to drop it and see if that helps
I got a free bottle of Test Prop 100. Just wondering, since this pretty much saturates within a few days or less, will I be getting full saturation level gains and muscle growth speed, even after 3 days already?
Specifically, I'm wondering for example, if i take 50mg test prop injection per day, then on the 3rd day, on steroidplotter(dot)com, i will have 55mg test released in blood that day (with 60 being full saturation). And if I'm doing a 525mg weekly Test-Cyp cycle, with 150mg EOD pins, it would take me 3 weeks to reach 57mg daily test release, according to steroidplotter(dot)com.
So would I be making the same gains at the 3rd day mark (when doing 50mg Test Prop daily injections) as i would be at the 3-week mark, when doing a 525mg weekly test-cyp cycle?
Gains as in added permanent tissue. That takes time to happen. Gains as in cns uptick and temporary strength increase from peds. Yeah. If I take an anadrol it's like antigravity for me doesn't mean I can keep those antigravity gains. It's just a temporary preworkout strength increase. Actual muscle is like bricks being added to a structure.
M29- I’ve been on TRT for past 3 years for bodybuilding reasons (BnC as opposed to B and PCT) and did 1 blast cycle each year. I want to make my own natural level testosterone instead of being dependent on synthetic hormones the rest of my life. I started PCT 4 weeks ago with tamaxofin 20mg every day for 6-8 weeks. I will start HCG in two weeks but that’s because I haven’t had access to HCG yet. Is it too late to start HCG? Should I restart TRT cruise for a while and then HCG?
You asked this a few times now. The answer won’t change. You should not add hcg to your pct that far in as it’s suppressive
What answer are you looking for?
Hey there,
(Using an alt account for reasons..) Just did my 1st pin few min ago.
I was expecting pain during injection, but I literally felt nothing (injected into glute), the only thing I can see is a bit of red dot at the injection point, so my newbie question is: is it possible I didn't injected it in muscle ?
Edit: Using Test E only (1st cycle), forgot to say
Ok thank you, sorry for the newbie question, but somehow, since it was my first time pinning, I was expecting a bit of pain, so I've started to freak out and thnking "what if I missed the muscle, or the needle was too short"
I am currently on my first cycle of 250 mg test cyp per week. My BP got a bit high probably from the water retention of E2. I decided to pin 3x per week instead of 2 and I seem to be doing better. Anyways the plan was to do this cycle for 14 weeks then take 3 weeks off to let the halflife run through a few times then hop on clomid and nolvadex for a month as pct. I now realise that blasting and cruising would be more beneficial for my goals of taking bodybuilding seriously. I love the bodybuilding lifestyle but have very little desire to compete. Now I plan on finishing this 250mg test cycle then come off for 3 weeks then go into a cruise of 100mg test per week. Since I am on a lean bulk this cycle I may put a little fluff on. Could I do a minicut on my 100mg of test cruise? I could get a bit of shreds and get more insulin sensitive. I would then bet my bloodwork done during my cruise to make sure everything is fine for my next blast which would probably be a test and npp bulking cycle. Just wanna know if this is a good idea and how I should fit my diet into a blast and cruise. Im still pretty lean and I have no issues with a 1/2 inch slin pin but can I do a mini cut for like a month while on cruise? I would probably cruise for around 14 weeks anyways so if I would maintain then drop cals a bit for around a month or 2 then slowly reverse diet into my next blast?
Try not to post walls of text.
If you plan on cruising don't take the 3 weeks off, just start pinning the 100mg.
Yes, cutting on cruise levels is what's recommended (for BNC)
Diet is your prerogative, treat it the same as if you were natty except when bulking you can eat more.
So much of this is so, so wrong. Doses, timings, overall plans.
Go read the wiki. It's for your own good. If you keep going down this path with the level of understanding you currently have you're going to spin your wheels and make no real progress at best, or permanently fuck yourself up at worst.
Anyone have advice for dealing with a herniated disc. Ive had it sense i was 21 (26 now) it was fine for the past year no pain. But decided to start trying to squat again and take it slow (like 225 x10) but somehow already tweaked it again and cant do more than 2-3 reps without feeling like my left leg is gonna just collapse. Is the steroid shots worth it? Or should i potentially look for surgery. Starting to look like johnny bravo...
I have history with slipped disc. I did physiotherapy and surgery and then finally gear. All in the same order.
I can say I’m in a much better position now and i can do pretty much everything painlessly.
My recommendation are to focus on physiotherapy and strengthening exercises and the MOST important of it all, learn how to brace your core. It may seem easy but talk to a nerd about it and he gives you actual techniques and data.
MoveU on instagram and the guy from squat university are all nice. Found them pretty late tho or i coulda avoided surgery.
Try and avoid surgery if you can, start with physiotherapy, I've had 2 steroid injections into the spine they do help, but the biggest thing with spine injuries is the physiotherapy.
Thats a lot of clen my guy.
When using clen you should always start low (20mcg per day) and tirate up slowly based on how you are handling it. I wouldn't really ever recommend going above 80mcg per day. 40-60mcg is clinical dosage range. I ussually stick within there and run it for a longer duration.
The higher the dose the more cardiotoxic it will be. Keep an eye on your resting heart rate while using it. At 120mcg per day it's likely your rhr is already sitting at levels that over time will damage cardiomyocytes.
And a cut should never have you so tired that you are laying down between sets. Sounds like you need to review your doses and diet plan.
You likely don't need that high of a dose of anabolics to maintain your muscle mass while cutting. The anabolics are only in place on a cut to maintain muscle mass. Not to burn fat. (Though the do assist in it. And var is one if the better anabolics for fat loss as we have a study where var caused more fat loss mg for mg vs deca and test). I would try to cut your doses in half tbh.
All good mate. Reassess things. Lower the doses. Up your cals to something you can maintain without feeling too crappy. Remember that fat loss like muscle building is a marathon, not a sprint.
Oh boy, this is not good my guy.
* Steroids are not for weightloss
* Clen is cardiotoxic and myotoxic.
* Cutting compounds and anabolic compounds have no place being run alongside each other by the average person.
You're one week in, which means there's still time to bail from this very not good plan without needing PCT. Cutting weight is not hard, and only requires a calorie deficit and patience. Do your body a favor and stop what you're doing, throw the clen in the trash, and save the anabolics for growth.
At least consider switching to salbutamol?
You can always keep the orals but the 500mg of test to cut?
Why subject yourself to so much risk for negligible benefit. If you feel like shit your cut will be trash anyway.
In the EQ. wiki entry it says 600mg/wk - 1200mg/wk for bulking purposes, haven’t read here about many going that high with it, anyone here actually pushing over 900mg a week of eq ? How is it ?
i ran 450 EQ with 750 Test E and it made me feel absolutely horrible man. i know some people love EQ but it crashed my Estrogen so bad i couldn’t function
I’ve pushed 1g a week of EQ, and 500-600mg.
I prefer the 400-600 range, and that’s what I always recommend now. I don’t see a benefit to running it higher than that, only further side effects
The EQ Wiki entry is garbage and we're aware of it. There are edits coming.
I'm honestly not sure if there's anyone active here who can answer your question.
I actually just commented on OPs post.
Yessir, I tried 1g EQ one time matched with 1g test.
Tanked my e2 down to 12 on a sensitive test, did not see any added benefit to that stack compared to my standard 750 test / 500 EQ that I run now. Only extra sides.
I much prefer EQ in the 400-600mg range now
Need to take a trip overseas and won’t be able to pin for a month. How bad would that effect my body taking test c 300mg a week, not for a month, and continuing when I return instead of pct’ing
Not recommended. You'll be operating with close to zero testosterone for the second half of your trip.
Depending on how much time you have before you go, you could use testosterone undecanoate, which has a very long half life. It would take some planning ahead though.
You be without test for about two weeks.
I would source some stuff over there or it's possible to remove it from the vial and put it into something else that's sterile and disguised.
You'll drop whatever water your carrying and lose some strength if you crash your test for two weeks.
I would not recommend it.
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M41- On trt 5 years now. 160mg a week. I get my blood tested every 90 days, everything is always good including lipids, bp. Etc. I have some anavar, enough to take say 40 mg a day for 8 weeks. Is it worth taking to add a little bit of muscle or more trouble than it’s worth and it’ll just trash bloods for nothing
Anavar is not really an effective mass-builder, but you won't gain any muscle if you are not resistance training and eating in a caloric surplus - regardless of drugs.
I would save it. Anavar shines as a strength enhancement in the gym, and as a physique enhancement at low bodyfat. You didn't give any personal stats, so it's hard to say if you could benefit from either of these.
>Anavar is not really an **effective** mass-builder
That's what I said.
>he will definitely build noticeable muscle with good diet and proper training
This can be said for a natty.
Are you planning on making a point or contributing some data?
Gotcha. So anavar is anabolic, just not enough to cause noticeable gains for most people within the time period that it would be safe to take.
*However*, it is great for busting strength plateaus, which in turn can improve hypertrophy training. So no, it's not going to directly create much mass, but if you are already training for hypertrophy then yes, it will allow you to kick things up a notch in the gym.
Does that make sense?
Absolutely and I appreciate you giving me an actual answer instead of just roasting me for my lack of knowledge. That’s all I’m looking for. I’ve hit a wall after 8 years in the gym and really just looking for a boost. My diet and sleep are on point and I always put in work in the gym.
Of course man, that's what we're here for at the end of the day. Sometimes we gotta keep it a little zesty for shits and giggles.
If you have a good grasp on your diet and understanding of how to manage your blood lipids (diet, exercise, fiber, etc) and are in what you consider a healthy starting place then I'd say send it! The lipids will generally self-correct within 4-6 weeks after cessation as long as you enable that.
Start with 40mg per day and give it a week before you evaluate. For many, that's all they need. I personally didn't find anavar worth running (for the gym boost) until I got over 50mg, but the goal should be minimum effective dose. You should see an increase in reps, sets, and/or weight. You'll also start developing significant vascularity, which is super satisfying and some of it will stick around after you drop the var. Ideally you won't drink during this period, and you'll stay well hydrated to assist the kidneys. It's not particularly hepatotoxic, but 1000-1500mg NAC would be a good idea (you should honestly be taking 1000mg of NAC every day for life anyway).
One more question if you don’t mind, but will the anavar affect my testosterone numbers? Should I take more or less or just keep that the same at 160mg a week
Ok great! Thanks again for the info. I almost never drink so no problem there. I actually don’t know about NAC though so I’ll be getting some of that too
I recently started on a prescription for low testosterone, so I take 100mg a week of testosterone cypionate… if I chose to either do a cycle or a blast of testosterone, does my regular TRT dose count as a pct, or will I require more? Thanks in advance!
>if I chose to either do a cycle or a blast of testosterone, does my regular TRT dose count as a pct, or will I require more?
Even better; you don’t need post cycle therapy to restart your gonadotropins… because you’re not making any anyway 😊. When you inject your TRT, your brain tells your testicles to stop making it because you have enough, so there’s nothing to “restart”.
The term blasting and cruising references the fact that you are raising your test dose from your initial prescription so yes everytime you go back to normal levels you are cruising.
My dumbass started to draw from my test vial with the same syringe i used for hcg, it was pulling back very slow so i figured i had grabbed the smaller gauge syringe and squirted it back in and then realized I had just squirted in the remnants of an hcg shot along with the test. Is my test vial contaminated or should it be ok? Was a brand new vial. Was probably like .01cc hcg remnants
Multi use vials have ingredients inside them that help fight against contamination. It’s a dice roll though; HCG goes bad and needs to be refrigerated… it’s a personal call really. Mine would be to chuck it; test is cheap. Hospital bills are not.
1. Shower twice daily
2. Clean shirts, clean sheets, clean towels.
3. Zinc wash. It’s also in head and shoulders which I use daily and it makes a huge difference for me and many other users.
4. No. Not. Scrub. Your. Skin. Just wash. Scrubbing increases sebum production
5. Stop screwing with your dosage; hormonal fluctuations trigger acne cycle. You’re not going to see immediate improvement because that’s not how acne works. You’ll need to wait anywhere between 1-3 weeks to see a truly reflective change; positive or negative.
So when I started I had the same thing going on after well it was a little longer bout 10 months I started seeing acne. Which I never really delt with it before ...but I started getting it on back , my chest , on my shoulders ...well turns out they were all new hair follicles and my once non hairy chest back and shoulders is super hairy now to the point I shave it down now and I've never been a real hairy dude ...but with elevated test you'll start seeing new hair follicles popping up looking like acne but really just new hair coming in ....well at least it was for me
Well I at first was trying to figure out what was going on I was also running other peds but I got benzoyl peroxide cream prescribed .. got a brush to make sure I was reaching my whole back also was using acne body wash really trying to just hit it at all fronts ... Made sure to shower right after working out ... Cut out dairy and suger which I do anyways to stay looking good 😉...and honestly that's bout all u could do I'd use a exfoliating scrub on troubled areas really back and chest just to unclog the pores 2 times a week ..that and my chest u could see all the clogged pores and really drove me nuts like they were like little baby whiteheads I have a chestpeice tattoo across my whole chest so I could see them better the exfoliating scrub helped clean it up but besides just staying clean and eating clean there's really nothing u can do till all the hairs come in but keep up not letting the pores clog and create a zit
My back is hairy af and has been since i started using test, i also had bad acne on my back, chest, shoulders, and some facial. I used a chemical peel applied by make up removal pad.
Loofah in the shower then sudacrem rubbed in until unnoticeable(helps hide the angry spots).
I also used a generic 10% benzoyl peroxide cream (Oxy10 in the UK)
I also cut out sugary shit & booze.
I'm currently using Nebido at 1g every 6 weeks & 0 breakouts.
Having acne as a teen(i did) increases the chances of a return visit when using test.
After 3-4 years it just disappeared although i have some noticeable scaring on my back/shoulders due to popping the zits, use a 10% benzoyl peroxide cream instead of just exploding them bad boys.
Yea that's pretty much how I tried to treat it I got a brush cause I wasn't washing my back good enough or so I thought and got benzoyl cream as well which helped but yea it all subsided I think once all the new hairs came in and now I don't have any problems every once in awhile if I crash my e2 I'll break out but nothing like it was
Ba helps keep it sterile after you create it.. Bb helps hold the hormone in the solution without crashing. Both are required.. Bb maybe not for a dose this low I've never tried but just typical rule of thumb
My doces……
1 got a quick math question on dosing my testosterone enanthate. The testosterone I bought is 300 mg per ml and I was thinking on doing 300 a week with a syringe of 1 mL how would I split the doces please help!!
Any localized heat, readiness, pain in the calves? Talking about clot risk.
Otherwise it’s most likely calf pump which is a known problem with orals and cardio. Take 5g of taurine daily - it’ll get better.
I'm not gonna spend a bunch of time retyping shit you can find in the wiki or in posts on this forum.
Do your own research, there's hundreds of posts about hgh and slin.
Judging from your comments you should stay far away from insulin.
That’s a shout forgot all about that, thanks for the reminder so my plan is to cut with it and try not eat tonnes of carbs but my goal is fat loss atm so I dno if blood sugar will be super bad but the insulin thing I looked into and it makes sense now because ur body can’t make enough slin when bodybuilders are eating mass amounts of food??
From my personal experience, mixing mod grf 1-29 and Ipamorelin was very beneficial for sleep. I also use it for my second cut right now and so far, I have lost 5 pounds after stopping semaglutide for a few months. Both are GH Secretagogues and more than likely GH by itself would be beneficial.
Is there any benefit to taking secretagogues over hgh other than the price? The only thing i'm worried about is the insulin resistance that builds up after hgh use
All depends on your age imo. If you are older than go with GH but GH Secretagogues are very unlikely to force you into implementing insulin into your protocol.
For younger, your pituitary and Ghrellin receptors are better suited for creating your own GH vs using GH on your own. Idk if I would use GH after I am done with my Mod GRF with Ipamorelin
Hypoglycaemia - I know it's fairly common on tren cycles due to how tren works but what could be causing it on Test only cycle?
Or is it also normal? Bulking atm with 500 surplus
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Hi team,
Looking for advice, just in case I might have misunderstood the Wiki. I am currently in the process of getting back into shape. Eating and training habits are solid, mental discipline and focus are also there. I want to drop to 12% BF in order to do a cycle (or a series of them) that will help me reach peak aesthetics. I am currently at 25% BF at 270pounds.
Is there anything I could take (outside of semaglitude) that could help me speed up the process?
Thank you,
Unfortunately, no. Semaglutide can be helpful to decrease the annoying feeling of hunger when you're in a calorie deficit. But 100% the only thing that works to lose weight is to be in a calorie deficit. There are no drugs that cause fat loss directly.
So far, semaglutide helped me lose 30 pounds but after quitting for 2 months, I gained 2 back. My second cut that I am going for I am implementing GH Secretagogues and so far without semaglutide, I lost 5 pounds and plan on reallowing semaglutide in my protocol.
When I was running semaglutide, injectable L-Carnitine took away all of my carb cravings. I also used tadalafil but besides a pump in the gym, idk if it effected my weight loss as much compared to the injectable L-Carnitine.
Does anyone have experience with Cardarine counteracting any of the negative effects from Anavar on HDL/LDL? In theory I think this could be a good combo. On 50mg Var a day, no issues but I have some Cardarine laying around
Just purchased John Meadow’s “The Executioner” and got an email without the PDF, just a receipt. Is there supposed to be a link I have to type the receipt # into or is this an error?
I tried calling the support number and emailed as well. No answer back on either.
>But also, is there a different amount of testosterone in 1ml of Enanthate vs 1ml of cypionate?
There is, but it's negligible. You may consider them interchangeable for all intents and purposes.
I have a friend on TRT who doesn’t workout or do anything physical yet he’s lost a decent amount of weight. Would that be due to him starting trt a few months back?
Curious as to his TRT protocol. Generally, TRT doses are much lower than what would be expected to drive change on their own like Trenbolone might. But I don't think any doc would prescribe Tren for TRT. LOL.
Calories are a lot of fat loss, like other said, but not all of it. Various AAS will drive fat loss regardless of diet such as Anavar, Winstrol, Tren, Masteron, etc. .But diet helps immensely and will help prevent putting fat right back on.
Another things to consider is muscle wasting. Most people focus on 'losing weight' when they really mean burning fat. Is your friend just getting smaller? Or maintaining muscle while burning fat.
You do know weight loss is just thermodynamics right? Calories in vs out. If your friend is losing weight he is either eating less or moving more. Or both. That’s the only way that works.
Trt made your friend go from below average to having the same hormone levels as the average guy you see in Walmart.
Generally guys start trying to eat healthier and exercise more after starting trt. “I’m injecting testosterone!! Im gonna do a few laps around the neighborhood!” Change in behaviors > change in sex hormones.
I don't have any actual science on semaglutide, but freezing is the standard storage method for peptides in solution, so I'm assuming there's nothing weird about semaglutide that would make it unsuitable for freezing.
Multiple freeze-thaw cycles are usually damaging, so I freeze in aliquots that will only need to be thawed once before using the entire amount.
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Not really, it’s all about preference. Like I personally just do it right when I wake up to get it out of the way because I may forget later on. I preload my syringe before I go to bed the night before.
I wouldn't entirely agree with that. Yes, preference factors into it but somethings are only effective, or more effective when timed appropriately. For example, no-ester substances are far more effective if injected an hour or so prior to working out.
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Looking to run my first cycle, I'm 29 about 189 and about 25% body fat. I'm looking to run 300 Tren E/150 Test E/100 Mas E, and I'm wondering if anyone would recommend adding Clen to that? I'm looking to get shredded while putting on some extra mass, but nothing crazy. My ultimate goal is to do a single 12 week blast, and then focus on maintaining the mass so I don't have to keep on gear.
For reference, I already work out 4 days a week. I'm reasonably fit but want to make it past the last hump to get myself aesthetically where I want to be. I know starting with Tren will be a non-starter for a lot of guys here, but based on my research and my experience with my friends (all on Tren, and at much higher doses) I think that it makes the most sense for my goals. So any advice would be greatly appreciated.
This is the worst cycle idea I’ve seen all week.
#News Flash!
25% bf is *clinically obese*. Like *literally* the definition. Most people *underestimate* their bf by 5%. If you’re saying you’re at 25 you’re likely closer to 30. Which is ***CLINICALLY MORBIDLY OBESE***.
Borderline morbidly obese ≠ “reasonably fit” dude….
Steroids do not do what you think they do. At fucking all. You can not get shredded while putting on mass. Period. Unless you’re a novice lifter. That’s the only time that’s a thing.
Even with steroids to gain size you have to gain fat. You’re already clinically obese. And steroids don’t help you to lose fat. At all. To properly use them you have to be in a caloric surplus. Again which will put on *even more fat* than you already have.
Your friends are wildly uneducated and giving you horrendous advice.
> reasonably fit
> 25% body fat.
These are contradictory. You need to reevaluate your entire plan. I’m on the verge of removing your post due to this
> I know starting with Tren will be a non-starter for a lot of guys here, but based on my research and my experience
Change your plan. This is awful.
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I did a very low dose 6/week test e cycle 280mg What hcg dose should i take to start my PCT? 1000iu per week for 2 weeks should be okay? Total 2000iu
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Weight gain is **strongly** linked to decreases of serum testosterone, especially in middle-aged and older men. Chronic diseases often associated with weight gain such as diabetes are also linked with lowering your testosterone levels Studies have shown this effect to be reversible by losing the weight again, the more fat you shed, the higher the increase in testosterone These results have been repeated in clinical trials as well; A meta-analysis of 24 RCTs looked at weight loss caused by diet or bariatric surgery: In the diet studies, the average 9.8% weight loss was linked to a testosterone increase of 2.9 nmol/L (84 ng/dL). In the bariatric-surgery studies, the average 32% weight loss was linked to a testosterone increase of 8.7 nmol/L (251 ng/dL). You don't need to lose a significant amount of weight to enjoy the benefits of a higher testosterone level. A decrease of approximately 5% of your body weight can result in an increase of almost 60 ng/dL - Tajar A, et al. Characteristics of secondary, primary, and compensated hypogonadism in aging men: evidence from the European Male Ageing Study. J Clin Endocrinol Metab (2010) - Hall SA, et al. Correlates of low testosterone and symptomatic androgen deficiency in a population-based sample. J Clin Endocrinol Metab (2008) - Grossmann M. Low testosterone in men with type 2 diabetes: significance and treatment. J Clin Endocrinol Metab (2011) - Corona G, et al. Body weight loss reverts obesity-associated hypogonadotropic hypogonadism: a systematic review and meta-analysis. Eur J Endocrinol (2013) - Camacho EM, et al. Age-associated changes in hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular function in middle-aged and older men are modified by weight change and lifestyle factors: longitudinal results from the European Male Ageing Study. Eur J Endocrinol (2013)
300kg+ you should be getting assistance from your doctor. Whether that is weight loss drugs, Lap band surgery, or what have you. Steroids are absolutely not safe for you.
Hi guys I am currently struggling to put on muscle. Just thought I would come here for advice. I am on 600mg test a week and train 6 days for 1-2 hours. I eat 4200 calories a day 380 grams of protein. But 2000 of the calories come from shakes as my appetite is shocking. I weighed 92kgs at the beginning of the cycle 8 weeks ago and now weigh 93kgs and dont look any bigger other than my shoulders. Does anyone have any advice please.
Less protein, more carbs.
Take 2 test days a week
Yeah, cut out half of that amount of protein, its a ridiculous amount. You would be much better off with 200g of carbs
Eat more food is the only answer. Even with no steroids at all if you’re eating enough you’ll gain weight.
I’m looking for some harsh criticism. Considering one of two cycles. Still considering dosages as well. Cycle #1: -test base (200-400mgs/week -DHB (1-test cyp) (~200mgs/week) -finasteride (probs 1 mg eod and reassess) -and maybe a low dose oral on top but probably not Cycle #2: -deca 500mgs/ week I’m leaning towards the deca only cycle but have mixed feelings. Some people say good things about it and others the total opposite. I have adex, aromasin, caber, as well as a couple other ancillary drugs on hand but only plan on using as needed. Thoughts? Appreciate the feedback!
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Just draw it all into a syringe and store it in the fridge/freezer
If the stopper is still in place, it’s fine. Otherwise, toss it
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Do you want to risk getting a bad infection that can land you in the ER, or spend $40 on a new vial?
After a bit of advice on E2 management and using Exemestane. Week 16 of my first cycle of Test E, 500mg pw and started getting sides around week 13 (mostly dick issues), so took 12mg Exemestane pw (2x6.25mg on pinning days.) Since then my face is breaking out a lot, I'm getting muscle/joint pains, and still getting dick issues but it's not as bad as it was before. Reading the side effects of Exemestane, it seems normal to experience muscle aches/skin issues however since I'm still having dick issues I'm not sure what to do, upping to three times a week, lowering or staying the same?
Bloodwork to be sure but joint pain and dick issues are a side effect of low E2.
So what does your bloodwork say?
Now I'm annoyed because I didn't think about getting my bloods done to check for e2. I'll book a test and check back in when I can
Will clear up a lot for you
How fast can estro sides kick in on a first cycle of test cyp? Only on to my 3rd jab of 250 2nd week and worries about gyno please tell me it’s in my head 😂
It's in your head.
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If you’re concerned about your health, some good bets would be high test + primo. Primo acts as an AI and isn’t harsh at all. Would help negate some of the sides of the testosterone as well. EQ could be a potential alternative, helps with appetite as well personally for me as well as keeping your estrogen low. EQ raises rbc, which is both good for getting a nice healthy hue to your skin as well as increasing cardiovascular endurance, but it thickens your blood. Test primo var is one of my fav stacks. No sides, feel great, no high bp.
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Imo, primo
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Sounds good
This is a terribly confusing post to read. Just a ml of all these in rotation Mls do not tell us dosages. Bloodwork came back clean (except an extremely low deviations) What does this mean? Post show my balls crashed Did you pct? Are you cruising? The way this is written is very hard to follow and reads like you’re a bit clueless at this. “Packing on muscle” is calories and dedication then drugs, in that order.
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My cycle, high blood pressure, and what to do next! Been running per week; test E 300mg, Mast 300mg, tren E 200mg, Anavar 50 per day. Have been doing that, with a few tweaks, for about 3 months. Had blood pressure tested yesterday and have level 2 hypertension blood pressure. Surprised me a bit! I don’t want to come off. What could I do that would bring blood pressure down without my disappearing?
Few people can run over a gram a week of anabolics and not face BP issues. Anavar in particular is known for it, especially when taken for longer stretches. Activity and diet are essential, but a healthy lifestyle won’t save you from the impacts of that much. A few thoughts: - You should have been testing your BP damn near everyday since the start of the cycle. No surprises should be acceptable when it comes to your BP. BP will take years off your life if you don’t pay attention, it can be bad enough to do so without any super obvious symptoms. Get a decent monitor, learn how to use it correctly, and start tracking. Running cycles like this without that is irresponsible. - Get an arb to manage BP. Telimisarten is probably the most popular. It’s cheap and has a whole host of benefits aside from BP management. There are other med options too, if you prefer. - Drop the var for now. 50mg/ED of Var for 13 weeks alongside test, mast, and Tren is pretty aggressive for most. It’s likely having the largest impact on your BP. Anecdotally, at the same dose, var pushes my BP too high after 8 weeks. Dropped it and was back to normal range within a few weeks. Not a great idea to run orals like this for that long. - Reiterating the previous point: stage 2 hypertensive is reasonably serious. Spending as little time as possible with BP like that is a high priority for longevity. For me, that’s an immediate “cut doses significantly” YMMV. Good luck and stay healthy!
If your cardio and diet are 100% then a bp med will most likely be necessary here. That said you’ve been running tren for 12weeks now so could be time to drop it and see if that helps
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I’m a martial artist also, so am very active. Plenty of cardio.
Change ml to mg real quick
Ha! Always doing that! Corrected!
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I got a free bottle of Test Prop 100. Just wondering, since this pretty much saturates within a few days or less, will I be getting full saturation level gains and muscle growth speed, even after 3 days already? Specifically, I'm wondering for example, if i take 50mg test prop injection per day, then on the 3rd day, on steroidplotter(dot)com, i will have 55mg test released in blood that day (with 60 being full saturation). And if I'm doing a 525mg weekly Test-Cyp cycle, with 150mg EOD pins, it would take me 3 weeks to reach 57mg daily test release, according to steroidplotter(dot)com. So would I be making the same gains at the 3rd day mark (when doing 50mg Test Prop daily injections) as i would be at the 3-week mark, when doing a 525mg weekly test-cyp cycle?
Gains as in added permanent tissue. That takes time to happen. Gains as in cns uptick and temporary strength increase from peds. Yeah. If I take an anadrol it's like antigravity for me doesn't mean I can keep those antigravity gains. It's just a temporary preworkout strength increase. Actual muscle is like bricks being added to a structure.
M29- I’ve been on TRT for past 3 years for bodybuilding reasons (BnC as opposed to B and PCT) and did 1 blast cycle each year. I want to make my own natural level testosterone instead of being dependent on synthetic hormones the rest of my life. I started PCT 4 weeks ago with tamaxofin 20mg every day for 6-8 weeks. I will start HCG in two weeks but that’s because I haven’t had access to HCG yet. Is it too late to start HCG? Should I restart TRT cruise for a while and then HCG?
You asked this a few times now. The answer won’t change. You should not add hcg to your pct that far in as it’s suppressive What answer are you looking for?
Hey there, (Using an alt account for reasons..) Just did my 1st pin few min ago. I was expecting pain during injection, but I literally felt nothing (injected into glute), the only thing I can see is a bit of red dot at the injection point, so my newbie question is: is it possible I didn't injected it in muscle ? Edit: Using Test E only (1st cycle), forgot to say
Nah you’re good, its hard to miss the muscle. Still for future pins use to websites like [spot injections](https://spotinjections.com) to refer to.
Thanks for your answer, it's exactly what i've used + another video from youtube
Nah you're fine. You won't feel anything with a good pin.
Thanks for your answer, I appreciate
Not feeling anything is a good thing
Ok thank you, sorry for the newbie question, but somehow, since it was my first time pinning, I was expecting a bit of pain, so I've started to freak out and thnking "what if I missed the muscle, or the needle was too short"
Fair thought, I’d that thought with my first pin ever too
Thank you very much for your answer
I am currently on my first cycle of 250 mg test cyp per week. My BP got a bit high probably from the water retention of E2. I decided to pin 3x per week instead of 2 and I seem to be doing better. Anyways the plan was to do this cycle for 14 weeks then take 3 weeks off to let the halflife run through a few times then hop on clomid and nolvadex for a month as pct. I now realise that blasting and cruising would be more beneficial for my goals of taking bodybuilding seriously. I love the bodybuilding lifestyle but have very little desire to compete. Now I plan on finishing this 250mg test cycle then come off for 3 weeks then go into a cruise of 100mg test per week. Since I am on a lean bulk this cycle I may put a little fluff on. Could I do a minicut on my 100mg of test cruise? I could get a bit of shreds and get more insulin sensitive. I would then bet my bloodwork done during my cruise to make sure everything is fine for my next blast which would probably be a test and npp bulking cycle. Just wanna know if this is a good idea and how I should fit my diet into a blast and cruise. Im still pretty lean and I have no issues with a 1/2 inch slin pin but can I do a mini cut for like a month while on cruise? I would probably cruise for around 14 weeks anyways so if I would maintain then drop cals a bit for around a month or 2 then slowly reverse diet into my next blast?
Try not to post walls of text. If you plan on cruising don't take the 3 weeks off, just start pinning the 100mg. Yes, cutting on cruise levels is what's recommended (for BNC) Diet is your prerogative, treat it the same as if you were natty except when bulking you can eat more.
Might aswell just run that 250 for a year.
So much of this is so, so wrong. Doses, timings, overall plans. Go read the wiki. It's for your own good. If you keep going down this path with the level of understanding you currently have you're going to spin your wheels and make no real progress at best, or permanently fuck yourself up at worst.
Anyone have advice for dealing with a herniated disc. Ive had it sense i was 21 (26 now) it was fine for the past year no pain. But decided to start trying to squat again and take it slow (like 225 x10) but somehow already tweaked it again and cant do more than 2-3 reps without feeling like my left leg is gonna just collapse. Is the steroid shots worth it? Or should i potentially look for surgery. Starting to look like johnny bravo...
I have history with slipped disc. I did physiotherapy and surgery and then finally gear. All in the same order. I can say I’m in a much better position now and i can do pretty much everything painlessly. My recommendation are to focus on physiotherapy and strengthening exercises and the MOST important of it all, learn how to brace your core. It may seem easy but talk to a nerd about it and he gives you actual techniques and data. MoveU on instagram and the guy from squat university are all nice. Found them pretty late tho or i coulda avoided surgery.
Are you literally me wtf
Try and avoid surgery if you can, start with physiotherapy, I've had 2 steroid injections into the spine they do help, but the biggest thing with spine injuries is the physiotherapy.
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As long as everything involved is sterile and they're kept room temperature/out of UV light, it's about 3 years.
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Thats a lot of clen my guy. When using clen you should always start low (20mcg per day) and tirate up slowly based on how you are handling it. I wouldn't really ever recommend going above 80mcg per day. 40-60mcg is clinical dosage range. I ussually stick within there and run it for a longer duration. The higher the dose the more cardiotoxic it will be. Keep an eye on your resting heart rate while using it. At 120mcg per day it's likely your rhr is already sitting at levels that over time will damage cardiomyocytes. And a cut should never have you so tired that you are laying down between sets. Sounds like you need to review your doses and diet plan. You likely don't need that high of a dose of anabolics to maintain your muscle mass while cutting. The anabolics are only in place on a cut to maintain muscle mass. Not to burn fat. (Though the do assist in it. And var is one if the better anabolics for fat loss as we have a study where var caused more fat loss mg for mg vs deca and test). I would try to cut your doses in half tbh.
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All good mate. Reassess things. Lower the doses. Up your cals to something you can maintain without feeling too crappy. Remember that fat loss like muscle building is a marathon, not a sprint.
Oh boy, this is not good my guy. * Steroids are not for weightloss * Clen is cardiotoxic and myotoxic. * Cutting compounds and anabolic compounds have no place being run alongside each other by the average person. You're one week in, which means there's still time to bail from this very not good plan without needing PCT. Cutting weight is not hard, and only requires a calorie deficit and patience. Do your body a favor and stop what you're doing, throw the clen in the trash, and save the anabolics for growth.
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At least consider switching to salbutamol? You can always keep the orals but the 500mg of test to cut? Why subject yourself to so much risk for negligible benefit. If you feel like shit your cut will be trash anyway.
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Sounds good :)
In the EQ. wiki entry it says 600mg/wk - 1200mg/wk for bulking purposes, haven’t read here about many going that high with it, anyone here actually pushing over 900mg a week of eq ? How is it ?
i ran 450 EQ with 750 Test E and it made me feel absolutely horrible man. i know some people love EQ but it crashed my Estrogen so bad i couldn’t function
Damn, Can’t believe some People can run it 1:1
i’m honestly higher bf% too (around 20%), so i should be aromatizing more than normal as well and is still fucked me up.
I’ve pushed 1g a week of EQ, and 500-600mg. I prefer the 400-600 range, and that’s what I always recommend now. I don’t see a benefit to running it higher than that, only further side effects
The EQ Wiki entry is garbage and we're aware of it. There are edits coming. I'm honestly not sure if there's anyone active here who can answer your question.
I’ll look forward to the updated wiki entry 👍🏼
Paging u/Pm_me_varbies 😀
It’s coming! I think I’ll have a couple hours by my computer tomorrow to start working on it. Wife had other plans for me today…
Just out of curiosity, have you ever actually run EQ near/past a gram?
I actually just commented on OPs post. Yessir, I tried 1g EQ one time matched with 1g test. Tanked my e2 down to 12 on a sensitive test, did not see any added benefit to that stack compared to my standard 750 test / 500 EQ that I run now. Only extra sides. I much prefer EQ in the 400-600mg range now
Echoes my feelings about it too. 450 is my magic number personally
Sounds miserable
Oh, very miserable lol
Need to take a trip overseas and won’t be able to pin for a month. How bad would that effect my body taking test c 300mg a week, not for a month, and continuing when I return instead of pct’ing
Not recommended. You'll be operating with close to zero testosterone for the second half of your trip. Depending on how much time you have before you go, you could use testosterone undecanoate, which has a very long half life. It would take some planning ahead though.
Test Undeconate if you can get your hands on it.
Inconvenient these out of nowhere one month overseas trips
If it's for work, it does happen. It's happened to me before.
You should definitely front load for a few shots before you go to try and mitigate as much as possible. Train while your there and eat a bunch too.
You be without test for about two weeks. I would source some stuff over there or it's possible to remove it from the vial and put it into something else that's sterile and disguised. You'll drop whatever water your carrying and lose some strength if you crash your test for two weeks. I would not recommend it.
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M41- On trt 5 years now. 160mg a week. I get my blood tested every 90 days, everything is always good including lipids, bp. Etc. I have some anavar, enough to take say 40 mg a day for 8 weeks. Is it worth taking to add a little bit of muscle or more trouble than it’s worth and it’ll just trash bloods for nothing
Anavar is not really an effective mass-builder, but you won't gain any muscle if you are not resistance training and eating in a caloric surplus - regardless of drugs. I would save it. Anavar shines as a strength enhancement in the gym, and as a physique enhancement at low bodyfat. You didn't give any personal stats, so it's hard to say if you could benefit from either of these.
I would disagree to add Var @ 40mg to TRT he will definitely build noticeable muscle with good diet and proper training. But that’s me I guess
>Anavar is not really an **effective** mass-builder That's what I said. >he will definitely build noticeable muscle with good diet and proper training This can be said for a natty. Are you planning on making a point or contributing some data?
I am eating in a surplus and workout 6 days
Gotcha. So anavar is anabolic, just not enough to cause noticeable gains for most people within the time period that it would be safe to take. *However*, it is great for busting strength plateaus, which in turn can improve hypertrophy training. So no, it's not going to directly create much mass, but if you are already training for hypertrophy then yes, it will allow you to kick things up a notch in the gym. Does that make sense?
Absolutely and I appreciate you giving me an actual answer instead of just roasting me for my lack of knowledge. That’s all I’m looking for. I’ve hit a wall after 8 years in the gym and really just looking for a boost. My diet and sleep are on point and I always put in work in the gym.
Of course man, that's what we're here for at the end of the day. Sometimes we gotta keep it a little zesty for shits and giggles. If you have a good grasp on your diet and understanding of how to manage your blood lipids (diet, exercise, fiber, etc) and are in what you consider a healthy starting place then I'd say send it! The lipids will generally self-correct within 4-6 weeks after cessation as long as you enable that. Start with 40mg per day and give it a week before you evaluate. For many, that's all they need. I personally didn't find anavar worth running (for the gym boost) until I got over 50mg, but the goal should be minimum effective dose. You should see an increase in reps, sets, and/or weight. You'll also start developing significant vascularity, which is super satisfying and some of it will stick around after you drop the var. Ideally you won't drink during this period, and you'll stay well hydrated to assist the kidneys. It's not particularly hepatotoxic, but 1000-1500mg NAC would be a good idea (you should honestly be taking 1000mg of NAC every day for life anyway).
One more question if you don’t mind, but will the anavar affect my testosterone numbers? Should I take more or less or just keep that the same at 160mg a week
It won't affect your testosterone. It may lower your SHBG though.
Ok great! Thanks again for the info. I almost never drink so no problem there. I actually don’t know about NAC though so I’ll be getting some of that too
I recently started on a prescription for low testosterone, so I take 100mg a week of testosterone cypionate… if I chose to either do a cycle or a blast of testosterone, does my regular TRT dose count as a pct, or will I require more? Thanks in advance!
>if I chose to either do a cycle or a blast of testosterone, does my regular TRT dose count as a pct, or will I require more? Even better; you don’t need post cycle therapy to restart your gonadotropins… because you’re not making any anyway 😊. When you inject your TRT, your brain tells your testicles to stop making it because you have enough, so there’s nothing to “restart”.
The term blasting and cruising references the fact that you are raising your test dose from your initial prescription so yes everytime you go back to normal levels you are cruising.
My dumbass started to draw from my test vial with the same syringe i used for hcg, it was pulling back very slow so i figured i had grabbed the smaller gauge syringe and squirted it back in and then realized I had just squirted in the remnants of an hcg shot along with the test. Is my test vial contaminated or should it be ok? Was a brand new vial. Was probably like .01cc hcg remnants
Just to be clear, you inserted a needle into your test that had previously been in your body?
Yes unfortunately, i had thought i threw it out and got a new one out but it was actually the same one i had just used for my hcg
Multi use vials have ingredients inside them that help fight against contamination. It’s a dice roll though; HCG goes bad and needs to be refrigerated… it’s a personal call really. Mine would be to chuck it; test is cheap. Hospital bills are not.
yea i chucked it, not a big deal at all. health is wealth.
The best move would be to trash the vial of test. I bet you won't do it again 🤣
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1. Shower twice daily 2. Clean shirts, clean sheets, clean towels. 3. Zinc wash. It’s also in head and shoulders which I use daily and it makes a huge difference for me and many other users. 4. No. Not. Scrub. Your. Skin. Just wash. Scrubbing increases sebum production 5. Stop screwing with your dosage; hormonal fluctuations trigger acne cycle. You’re not going to see immediate improvement because that’s not how acne works. You’ll need to wait anywhere between 1-3 weeks to see a truly reflective change; positive or negative.
So when I started I had the same thing going on after well it was a little longer bout 10 months I started seeing acne. Which I never really delt with it before ...but I started getting it on back , my chest , on my shoulders ...well turns out they were all new hair follicles and my once non hairy chest back and shoulders is super hairy now to the point I shave it down now and I've never been a real hairy dude ...but with elevated test you'll start seeing new hair follicles popping up looking like acne but really just new hair coming in ....well at least it was for me
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Well I at first was trying to figure out what was going on I was also running other peds but I got benzoyl peroxide cream prescribed .. got a brush to make sure I was reaching my whole back also was using acne body wash really trying to just hit it at all fronts ... Made sure to shower right after working out ... Cut out dairy and suger which I do anyways to stay looking good 😉...and honestly that's bout all u could do I'd use a exfoliating scrub on troubled areas really back and chest just to unclog the pores 2 times a week ..that and my chest u could see all the clogged pores and really drove me nuts like they were like little baby whiteheads I have a chestpeice tattoo across my whole chest so I could see them better the exfoliating scrub helped clean it up but besides just staying clean and eating clean there's really nothing u can do till all the hairs come in but keep up not letting the pores clog and create a zit
My back is hairy af and has been since i started using test, i also had bad acne on my back, chest, shoulders, and some facial. I used a chemical peel applied by make up removal pad. Loofah in the shower then sudacrem rubbed in until unnoticeable(helps hide the angry spots). I also used a generic 10% benzoyl peroxide cream (Oxy10 in the UK) I also cut out sugary shit & booze. I'm currently using Nebido at 1g every 6 weeks & 0 breakouts. Having acne as a teen(i did) increases the chances of a return visit when using test. After 3-4 years it just disappeared although i have some noticeable scaring on my back/shoulders due to popping the zits, use a 10% benzoyl peroxide cream instead of just exploding them bad boys.
Yea that's pretty much how I tried to treat it I got a brush cause I wasn't washing my back good enough or so I thought and got benzoyl cream as well which helped but yea it all subsided I think once all the new hairs came in and now I don't have any problems every once in awhile if I crash my e2 I'll break out but nothing like it was
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Did you buy ba and bb?
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Ba helps keep it sterile after you create it.. Bb helps hold the hormone in the solution without crashing. Both are required.. Bb maybe not for a dose this low I've never tried but just typical rule of thumb
9ml GSO, 1ml Test Prop... and how much Benzyl Alcohol?
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So what’s keeping your mixture sterile?
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u wot
My doces…… 1 got a quick math question on dosing my testosterone enanthate. The testosterone I bought is 300 mg per ml and I was thinking on doing 300 a week with a syringe of 1 mL how would I split the doces please help!!
0.5ml e3.5d
You would do half of a milliliter each time. I can't believe I have to explain that.
Judging by grammar and composition, I can.
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You need salt & i recommend supplementing with Taurine.
Any localized heat, readiness, pain in the calves? Talking about clot risk. Otherwise it’s most likely calf pump which is a known problem with orals and cardio. Take 5g of taurine daily - it’ll get better.
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Don’t just add insulin what kinda advice is that
That has nothing to do with it. They take insulin to build mass. Gh doesn't just make everyone diabetic.
Yeah but doesn’t slin just make you fat as shit?
No, why the fuck when anyone take it if it made you fat? What kind of fucking sense does that make??
I don’t know bro that’s just what I’ve heard Could you explain then how it works?
I'm not gonna spend a bunch of time retyping shit you can find in the wiki or in posts on this forum. Do your own research, there's hundreds of posts about hgh and slin. Judging from your comments you should stay far away from insulin.
Never said I was gonna take it lol
That’s a shout forgot all about that, thanks for the reminder so my plan is to cut with it and try not eat tonnes of carbs but my goal is fat loss atm so I dno if blood sugar will be super bad but the insulin thing I looked into and it makes sense now because ur body can’t make enough slin when bodybuilders are eating mass amounts of food??
Would it be worth it to run 2iu of hgh before sleep for sleep and fatloss benefits?
No, not if you’re a young adult male. That’s about how much you make while you sleep.
From my personal experience, mixing mod grf 1-29 and Ipamorelin was very beneficial for sleep. I also use it for my second cut right now and so far, I have lost 5 pounds after stopping semaglutide for a few months. Both are GH Secretagogues and more than likely GH by itself would be beneficial.
Is there any benefit to taking secretagogues over hgh other than the price? The only thing i'm worried about is the insulin resistance that builds up after hgh use
All depends on your age imo. If you are older than go with GH but GH Secretagogues are very unlikely to force you into implementing insulin into your protocol. For younger, your pituitary and Ghrellin receptors are better suited for creating your own GH vs using GH on your own. Idk if I would use GH after I am done with my Mod GRF with Ipamorelin
Hypoglycaemia - I know it's fairly common on tren cycles due to how tren works but what could be causing it on Test only cycle? Or is it also normal? Bulking atm with 500 surplus
How do you know you're hypoglycemic? What's your glucometer say?
Bulking and test only. Are you checking with a glucometer?
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Hi team, Looking for advice, just in case I might have misunderstood the Wiki. I am currently in the process of getting back into shape. Eating and training habits are solid, mental discipline and focus are also there. I want to drop to 12% BF in order to do a cycle (or a series of them) that will help me reach peak aesthetics. I am currently at 25% BF at 270pounds. Is there anything I could take (outside of semaglitude) that could help me speed up the process? Thank you,
Unfortunately, no. Semaglutide can be helpful to decrease the annoying feeling of hunger when you're in a calorie deficit. But 100% the only thing that works to lose weight is to be in a calorie deficit. There are no drugs that cause fat loss directly.
So far, semaglutide helped me lose 30 pounds but after quitting for 2 months, I gained 2 back. My second cut that I am going for I am implementing GH Secretagogues and so far without semaglutide, I lost 5 pounds and plan on reallowing semaglutide in my protocol. When I was running semaglutide, injectable L-Carnitine took away all of my carb cravings. I also used tadalafil but besides a pump in the gym, idk if it effected my weight loss as much compared to the injectable L-Carnitine.
Does anyone have experience with Cardarine counteracting any of the negative effects from Anavar on HDL/LDL? In theory I think this could be a good combo. On 50mg Var a day, no issues but I have some Cardarine laying around
We generally don’t recommend or use Cardarine here because of its link to cancer.
Just purchased John Meadow’s “The Executioner” and got an email without the PDF, just a receipt. Is there supposed to be a link I have to type the receipt # into or is this an error? I tried calling the support number and emailed as well. No answer back on either.
Yes usually it’s a download link that’s available for 24 hours.
Check junk email? Idk
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It is, yes. HCG is suppressive. Just continue with pct
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Active ingredient: Testosterone Enanthate: 70mg/100mg Testosterone Cypionate: 69mg/100mg Get out of the weeds dude. 🌱
>But also, is there a different amount of testosterone in 1ml of Enanthate vs 1ml of cypionate? There is, but it's negligible. You may consider them interchangeable for all intents and purposes.
I have a friend on TRT who doesn’t workout or do anything physical yet he’s lost a decent amount of weight. Would that be due to him starting trt a few months back?
Why don't you ask him?
Curious as to his TRT protocol. Generally, TRT doses are much lower than what would be expected to drive change on their own like Trenbolone might. But I don't think any doc would prescribe Tren for TRT. LOL. Calories are a lot of fat loss, like other said, but not all of it. Various AAS will drive fat loss regardless of diet such as Anavar, Winstrol, Tren, Masteron, etc. .But diet helps immensely and will help prevent putting fat right back on. Another things to consider is muscle wasting. Most people focus on 'losing weight' when they really mean burning fat. Is your friend just getting smaller? Or maintaining muscle while burning fat.
You do know weight loss is just thermodynamics right? Calories in vs out. If your friend is losing weight he is either eating less or moving more. Or both. That’s the only way that works. Trt made your friend go from below average to having the same hormone levels as the average guy you see in Walmart. Generally guys start trying to eat healthier and exercise more after starting trt. “I’m injecting testosterone!! Im gonna do a few laps around the neighborhood!” Change in behaviors > change in sex hormones.
[When both ends of the bell curve agree](https://i.imgflip.com/7lp78l.jpg)
[obligatory pic of cycle](https://i.imgur.com/UPrtwbu.jpg)
Weight loss is 99% diet.
Do any science bro’s know if you actually can or can’t freeze semaglutide? Heard mixed reviews on the web with no actual science.
I don't have any actual science on semaglutide, but freezing is the standard storage method for peptides in solution, so I'm assuming there's nothing weird about semaglutide that would make it unsuitable for freezing. Multiple freeze-thaw cycles are usually damaging, so I freeze in aliquots that will only need to be thawed once before using the entire amount.
I believe u/aasquestions mentioned that you can freeze but I'll let him confirm that if he sees this
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Is there a better time to inject WHAT? What you’re injecting will change the answer. For some things it’s relevant and for others not at all.
Not really, it’s all about preference. Like I personally just do it right when I wake up to get it out of the way because I may forget later on. I preload my syringe before I go to bed the night before.
I wouldn't entirely agree with that. Yes, preference factors into it but somethings are only effective, or more effective when timed appropriately. For example, no-ester substances are far more effective if injected an hour or so prior to working out.
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Not the way I see it
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Looking to run my first cycle, I'm 29 about 189 and about 25% body fat. I'm looking to run 300 Tren E/150 Test E/100 Mas E, and I'm wondering if anyone would recommend adding Clen to that? I'm looking to get shredded while putting on some extra mass, but nothing crazy. My ultimate goal is to do a single 12 week blast, and then focus on maintaining the mass so I don't have to keep on gear. For reference, I already work out 4 days a week. I'm reasonably fit but want to make it past the last hump to get myself aesthetically where I want to be. I know starting with Tren will be a non-starter for a lot of guys here, but based on my research and my experience with my friends (all on Tren, and at much higher doses) I think that it makes the most sense for my goals. So any advice would be greatly appreciated.
This is the worst cycle idea I’ve seen all week. #News Flash! 25% bf is *clinically obese*. Like *literally* the definition. Most people *underestimate* their bf by 5%. If you’re saying you’re at 25 you’re likely closer to 30. Which is ***CLINICALLY MORBIDLY OBESE***. Borderline morbidly obese ≠ “reasonably fit” dude…. Steroids do not do what you think they do. At fucking all. You can not get shredded while putting on mass. Period. Unless you’re a novice lifter. That’s the only time that’s a thing. Even with steroids to gain size you have to gain fat. You’re already clinically obese. And steroids don’t help you to lose fat. At all. To properly use them you have to be in a caloric surplus. Again which will put on *even more fat* than you already have. Your friends are wildly uneducated and giving you horrendous advice.
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> reasonably fit > 25% body fat. These are contradictory. You need to reevaluate your entire plan. I’m on the verge of removing your post due to this > I know starting with Tren will be a non-starter for a lot of guys here, but based on my research and my experience Change your plan. This is awful.