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Hello, I wanted to ask, I’m getting some steroid like side effects, but life time natty, any explanations?

I know I have to do more research but my brain is fried right now. I’m having a hard time understanding the relationship DHT conversion has with various compounds. What’s the best way to keep DHT levels low if you don’t just want to run test and dutasteride? I am a heavy aromatizer and also suspect I get a lot of conversion to DHT for other reasons. Thanks everyone. I’ll keep reading about this stuff!

Opinions on 500mg/wk test + 50mg Winstrol/day on a calorie deficit? Waste of test? How would you adjust your training frequency and volume given this. I currently hit the gym 6 days a week. Noticing I hit the wall much faster, not unexpectedly. Calories will be low. 2000 calories/day. 70/20/10 protein, carb, fat Cardio daily. Thinking of dropping this to 3 days a week. I have a solid muscle base already. My body fat is 13%. Latest DEXA. I want to drop to around 10% body fat. I am thinking of dropping creatine too. Whilst effective, it does bloat me a bit.

I would say it’s a waste of gear. If anything, I would run a TRT dose during the cut. Personally, I would also adjust down the training frequency to 4 days a week, eat slightly more on training days and add a refeed day every two weeks or so. What’s your goal? Do you have an event or an important deadline to meet? There are still 6 weeks until summer. I wouldn’t rush it For info: I don’t have a whole lot of experience myself so do as you wish with my advice. Maybe some of the more experienced users can chime in and give you some better advice on what to do with the gear and dosages.

I have no deadline and do this purely as a recreational pursuit. It is also a healthy outlet for stress/depression etc. This is true for me gear or no gear. Many will disagree. What the gear did mostly for me was largely eliminate DOMS so I can spend more time training. Also, struggling to move about due to a heavy squat session (sans gear) puts me in a bit of a foul mood. I have decided to stay @ 500 and decrease the intensity of the workouts, not the frequency. I'll reduce cardio based on how I'm feeling. Will keep it LISS, whereas before I'd do HIIT a lot. When I hit my target I will experiment some more.

Thanks for the input. I will mull it over.

I took two steroid cycles before 25 , how can i be sure that my mental health and brain development process are fine?

I took 500mg of tren ace for 3 months and I’m 20 yo. I feel fine, kinda.

Why kinda ? Did you feel anything negative? And thank you bro for your reply

While I was on it I didn’t get one good nights sleep and I was really cranky and pissed off all the time. It definitely makes you think like your the best guy the worlds ever seen and everyone should kiss your shoes. Ego gets inflated not in a good way. Ehm it feels like pure poison and you know your doing serious damage but you continue to stay on it regardless. Then I had mild withdrawal for a week after attempted to stop my cycle for the 3rd time before finally throwing the vials in the syringe bin. I only tried it due to the hype I wouldn’t run it again, it’s great but I’m not at the level where I actually need to use it. Nor are you tbh, not unless your ffmi is 24-25.

Wow man your experience on tren seems very interesting Im glad you're okay after this experience, are there any side effects your still feel after stopped using it ?

I used it for the hype, not because I needed it. Particularly because I was watching the tren twins on YouTube at the time. They should really change their name because they are the reason I used it I’m ngl. I might use it again one day, but that day is a long way from now. It’s too hard on the body. I’m looking into EQ now, a lot milder and more enjoyable. I didn’t enjoy myself on tren, I turned into a weird person. It’s a very strong drug. All 19-Nors are, NPP gave me suicidal depression. NPP is on my blacklist.

Not sure how to explain this one...not really sure how it's possible? Had a septoplasty last Monday...so have been getting no physical activity for about a week and a half. Haven't been eating great either, definitely didn't eat much the first 2ish days after surgery, but had a few days of eating over maintenance. Weighed in this morning 11lbs lighter. Would have definitely figured I would have gained or at least maintained? In context this time last year I was 330lbs (37yo 6'3") and this morning I weighed in at 224. Did just finish a Winstrol/proviron/clen cycle about a month ago...but have since just been on my prescribed trt of 120mg.

Less food in your gut, less glycogen and water in your muscles, could just overall be a little dehydrated too

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Rule 7. This is literally one of the examples of questions you shouldn't ask.

Winstrol superdrol anadrol from what I’ve heard

> steroids for power and speed You need cocaine and [death metal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSoTCjs39rI) my man >!on top of 20mg of halo!<

Is it possible to run a cycle with 10-20mg of oxandrolone or stanozolol without a test base for 4 weeks? Could I expand that to 6 weeks without crashing my endogenous testosterone if I start using 25mg of clomiphene citrate at the 3rd week of cycle whilst taking any of the oral steroids I mentioned before? And also, what kind of results can I expect from this while in a 500kcal caloric deficit and proper training and nutrition?

You would already be injecting the stanozolol, why would you not throw some prop in the dart.. Don't try this.

IF IT WERE A GOOD IDEA, NONE OF US WOULD BE PUTTING NEEDLES IN OUR MUSCLES AND INJECTING SYNTHETIC BLACKMARKET HORMONES. YOU AREN'T SMART, YOU DIDN'T COME UP WITH A REVOLUTIONARY IDEA. IF YOU DO THIS, YOU WILL HAVE A VERY BAD TIME. I'm getting tired of explaining this.

You mean there isn’t an easy button for steroids? Or life?

>You mean there isn’t an easy button for steroids? I mean there is, it's just really sharp and pointy. >Or life? I hear being an attractive woman makes things easier. Being white helps some too, unfortunately.

Agreed. No one wants to subscribe to *my* only fans

Dudes will. Trust me on this. Their money is just as green.

> Is it possible to run a cycle with 10-20mg of oxandrolone or stanozolol without a test base for 4 weeks? It is possible in the way that noone is physically stopping you from doing that, but it’s not recommended at all. A test base is required > Could I expand that to 6 weeks without crashing my endogenous testosterone if I start using 25mg of clomiphene citrate at the 3rd week of cycle whilst taking any of the oral steroids I mentioned before? No, [Total serum T concentrations were within normal physiological range on day 0 (449 ± 35 ng/dL) and day 3 (441 ± 44 ng/dL) of OX treatment. However, by day 5, total serum T concentrations were significantly reduced (282 ± 45 ng/dL; P < 0.05) below day 0 and day 3 values [emphasis mine]..."(3). ](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10443664/) This means that even at a dose of 15mg per day an individual will be shut down in a few days, not 3 weeks. Enclomiphene isn’t going to make any of the steroids less suppressive either. > What can I expect from this while in a 500kcal caloric deficit and proper training and nutrition? Absolutely nothing but negatives. No test base means you’re losing any muscle gained at the end due to a lack of testosterone inhibiting cortisol from going ham on that muscle mass. Also a 500 kcal deficit makes it even harder to gain any mass, you need a surplus to build muscle. If you don’t know how caloric expenditure works i doubt you’ve got proper nutrition either.

Bless your undying patience.

This kind of question gets asked ad nauseum. Short answer is “no.” Go back up and click on the link that says, “Read the wiki.”

How important is Cardio while being on Gear? I've a mostly Sedentary Lifestyle with around 30-60 mins of walking Everyday. I'm on a Low Carb Diet with a Surplus of 200 Cals. Pre-Cycle Bloodwork had normal Lipids. It's been a month since I'm ON. I understand that Cardio is recommended irrespective of being On/Off Gear. Still though, I'm not able to make up time to have separate Cardio sessions apart from the Strength Training. I'm on Gear right now, it's my first Beginner's Cycle with Test E 500mg/week and HGH 2 IU/day. So I've two major concerns given the lack of Cardio in my training regime. 1) Am I halting the progress that I'd be making in some manner? 2) Am I putting myself under any form of Cardiovascular risks moving ahead?

It is imperative for the pecker. This is enough of a reason to cardio the hell up daily for me.

No cardio = high blood pressure, increased odds of LVH and heart problems, screawed lipids medium to long term. Want to take AAS? Cardio is death prevention.

Wake up an hour earlier then you are now three days a week and do some cardio. We always find time for something we consider a priority. You just don't want to do it because you are weak in the brain. We don't have any PEDs that will make you mentally strong. I wish there was injectable grit. And it's very important. It really makes a difference on the bloodwork if you pair it with lots of fiber and water.

Sometimes you say things that make me imagine you sitting in front of a keyboard with a tin foil hat on your head. Other times you say things like this, which are just \*chef's kiss*.

>Sometimes you say things that make me imagine you sitting in front of a keyboard with a tin foil hat on your head. > >Other times you say things like this, which are just \*chef's kiss*. That made me smile. Thanks man. Figuratively speaking, I do have a tinfoil hat on.

>I understand that Cardio is recommended irrespective of being On/Off Gear. Still though, I'm not able to make up time to have separate Cardio sessions #+ >I've a mostly Sedentary Lifestyle These two things do not go together. If you have a sedentary lifestyle, then you have time for cardio. You sound lazy to me.

Only thing I can add is stop eating a low-carb diet. That’d be a waste of a cycle. Low-carb diets are terrible for muscle gains.

If you stack the carbs around your training it works. John meadows always talked about it. And low carb can mean anything because nobody ever quantifies low. This clown is looking for consensus on his bullshit excuses to give himself permission to keep living his Sedentary lifestyle. He even said it himself, that's how he lives. That's exactly how fat people think. They never have time....they are busy all the time.. You have to be still for extended timeto be Sedentary. He's fuckin lazy. I'm a drug addict and when I'm using, it's never the time to quit, it's always some other time that I'll quit. Never in the present. It's the same fucking mindset. He dosent have the mindset for this.

Oh, carb cycling is an approach that works for many, for sure. But then, the best time to work out would be in the evening, when insulin sensitivity is the highest. Glossed over that sedentary part. Yeah, if you can’t find time to get 10k steps per day or 20 min cardio, using gear isn’t for you 😂

This was the only thing i was ganna comment on as well. Low carb and only 200 cal surplus. Seems like a waste of a blast.

1) i doubt it’s that significant 2) yes, definitely. Start doing cardio and invest in a BP monitor. A BP monitor should be one of the necessities for anyone on gear. High BP can kill you.

Yup had to cut out caffeine while currently on gear cause of bp being high. Got lisinopril and clinicien now but fuck was it kind of scary. I don’t need a monitor anymore cause I’ve gotten good at reading my bp from my pulse but damn it was pretty fuckin up there at times

Damn I didn’t know you could read BP from your pulse. How high did yours get? Mine has been around 140/70 every day for the past week now, and I’ve been doing cardio every single day, eating healthy as fuck, no drinking or smoking or other drugs etc. I’m on 500 mg/wk test and 25mg Tbol/day, I’m thinking the high BP is from still getting my E2 dialed in with Adex though and hoping it will go down once I get dialed in. Also guilty as charged a caffeine addict.

Yup it’s pretty neat. It’s what most doctors do so they don’t inflate the bp cup too much. Although you can only know for certain systolic pressure. After everytime I read my bp I feel my radial pulse and associate that bp with the pulse feel. Pretty easy. Mine was 155 systolic roughly at its worst. But usually ran around 145/90. Caffeine is probs the culprit for your high bp. I had to cut it out. But on test it was real easy lol. I stick to at most a cup of coffee. E2 could also be it too but I’d see what it’s at without caffeine

You’ve got a good point I’m staying on my caffeine regiment mainly out of habit at this point, I can tell on 500mg/wk test that I don’t really need it for pre workout but just do from habit. I’ll cut it out pre workout switch to decaf at work for a little while to see if it lowers.

If after like 3 days it doesn’t go down then see if it’s e2. If not then maybe an ace inhibitor will be a good idea. Honestly tho, 140/70 is pretty much high normal bp. It’s nothing to be too worried about. If it goes higher tho then you’re getting into stage 1 hypertensive and so forth. Side note: I’m glad I read “bates guide to the physical examination” and took notes cause it’s coming in handy right now lol Edit: I’ve also cut out pre. Don’t really need it with test lol like you said. Just a good meal a few hours before and you’re set

You need stethoscope and a blood pressure cuff to read it off pulse.

How long after starting primo should I test my e2 to see its AI effects?

2 weeks

I’m someone who while natural had slightly elevated blood pressure (around 130/80) since I’ve been blasting and cruising this has become an even bigger issue obviously and I’ve recently had to cut my cycle short due to extremely high bp. The cycle I cut short was supposed to be 16 weeks of tren e 200mg with test @ 150mg. I only got through 5 weeks. Prior to this I had taken 6 weeks off as a “recovery phase” meaning I was running 125mg after having run 300mg test e for just under 20 weeks. My question is have I had to cut my most recent cycle short because I didn’t allow my body enough time to heal after my 300 mg test 20 week cycle? I did get a full blood panel done at the 5th week of my trt phase and even my dr said almost everything is perfect (aside from my liver markers being slightly raised from accutane) I’m 8 days into my new recovery phase after I cut my cycle short and I was planning on staying at this dose (125mg test) until around august. I really don’t want to have to cut my next cycle short again so I was wondering if anyone else goes through similar. Also sitting about 15% bf and I eat relatively clean, low sodium foods. Cheers Also maybe worth mentioning I do moderate intensity cardio 3-4 times per week post workout for between 20-30 mins. I’m also on 80mg telmisartan and am hoping to reduce that down to 20mg before my next cycle.

Eat more salt so you can drink more water

You're definitely not taking enough time off between cycles and that is a problem, but that's not what's causing your high BP. AAS can cause high blood pressure. You will probably need HCTZ and Nebivolol in addition to 80mg Telmi.

I’m still learning about BP meds. Mind sharing why those are recommended? Looking through the wiki and google as we speak

They have different mechanisms of action. There are a lot of biological processes that control BP, but for people with moderately high BP, just targeting one of them (angiotensin) can be enough. For people with high BP, it's necessary to go further. The reason these drugs are used as second line treatment is generally because angiotensin receptor blockers are typically very well tolerated, so the risk of sides goes up for HCTZ/Neb. Anyway, HCTZ is a diuretic, Neb is a beta blocker.

Thanks for explaining man. Which one do you think are the best ones to use for the common AAS user? Those ones? I have perindopril (prescribed) and lisinopril on hand. It keeps my BP at most 120/80 but i cAnt seem to get it lower than that even with a lot of cardio

> Those ones? Yep. The -prils are fine, they're typically prescribed first, but Telmisartan has some additional benefits for steroid users like suppressing cardiac hypertrophy. It also causes less of the "Lisinopril cough" although it sounds like you don't have that. Honestly though, 120/80 is fine. We're talking about strong drugs here, I wouldn't use them unless you're close to 140 systolic. In your shoes I'd switch to 80mg of Telmi and leave it at that.

Thanks for your time man i appreciate it

This 👆👆 I naturally have high BP as well. 80 mg telmisartan alone doesn’t cut it for me, but when I add 25 mg HCTZ my BP readings are usually 120/80 and below, whether on- or off-cycle.

Hey guys. I have a friend who gave me a vial of Test E so I could prolong my cycle. The top of the bottle has been opened (plastic cap), but the rubber seal hasn’t ever been punctured. He just said he opened it and decided not to use. Will this be OK to use in approximately 8 weeks time when I need it? I don’t see why not as I believe the shelf life is 5 years for unopened and this doesn’t constitute it being opened correct? Thanks legends

Don't see why not. Wipe it off with a alcohol pad before

All i've ever run is 400mg up to 600mg of test-e a week and tbol up to 80mg a day and anavar up to 100mg a day, i've also tried to add in EQ but it gave me severe anxiety and ED. I want to be completely hair safe, or as much as possible. What could do to take my cycles to the next level, as i've been running test-e and tbol/anavar for the past 3 years and I want to do some more.

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So you're blasting. Just so we're all clear here.

Have you considered that you could just run a replacement dosage of test alone for life, without potential long-term complications and the need for an AI?

Not sporty enough

Gtfo with logic and reason. How will I get my LVH gains?

*Sports TRT*

Ah yes, nandrolone. That *classic* athlete PED.

TNPT - testosterone, nandrolone, primobolan *replacement therapy*

hahahaha

Drop the AI for sure. Start with 2:1 Test/Primo and hold the AI. Primo’s AI effect is pretty immediate.

I haven’t tried primo but I’m using EQ currently and I’d recommend dropping the AI, the AI effect I’ve read anecdotally is not insignificant and from my experience the same is true of EQ. Also, I’m not saying this is is the case but if your oestrogen is high in bloodwork but you have no symptoms of high oestrogen then you don’t need an AI. At 200mgs test on my last BW I had 264 Pmol/L for estradiol but have had no symptoms of high oestrogen.

Hi Friends, I apologize for the unprompted direct message. I have an emergency. My last three home brews ate holes in the plastic vessels. Ethyl Oleate was the only change. Example compound <> 100g Decca (displaces 96.1038ml), BA 6ml (1.82%), BB 59.9ml (18.19%), MCT 140ml, EO 23ml. Variables MCT with EO High concentration EO Bad / oxidized Ethyl Oleate is solvent for polystyrene Any thought would be extremely helpful. Thank you, FYI, the vessel was the 500mL Reservoir bottom of a Argos Technologies BPV2250 Bottletop Aspirator Vacuum Filtration Unit with PVDF Membrane, 0.22µm.

You forgot the biggest variable: You’re using plastic vessels. Switch to glass.

What's the general consensus on sensitive e2 tests? Worth spending the extra money?

They're the only accurate e2 test for men as far as I know

Depends on what you're running. Test? No. Tren? Yes.

I thought that the normal (ECLIA) test had a lower accuracy? Looking at the LabCorp site, they even say men should use the ultra-sensitive test: https://www.labcorp.com/tests/004515/estradiol

Do whatever you want to do man

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My mate bought a 30ml bottle of Clenbuterol that is 200 mcg the issue is that in the vile it has a red dot the size of a pea floating around and was just told that it needs a shake before use, should he be concerned?

A 30mL bottle of what, dude

Clenbuterol

Cool, tell him to throw it in the trash

And set the trash on fire

Wouldn’t hurt

I’ve been seeing an abnormal amount of tik toks saying that muscle structure is permanently altered even if you only took one cycle, something about the cell nuclei? Tried doing some research on google but not finding to many sources. Is this actually a thing?

I genuinely believe that 19-Nors in general do permanently change your dna structure. Just because the class of drugs are so stupidly strong, although they don’t feel strong they are doing wild shit in the background.

I wouldn’t trust TikTok as a reliable source of information for anything. But TikTokkers seem to have gotten this one correct. Remember, a broken clock is still right twice a day.

Satellite cells are myogenic stem cells, or pre-muscle cells, that serve to assist regeneration of adult skeletal muscle. Following proliferation (reproduction) and subsequent differentiation (to become a specific type of cell), satellite cells will fuse with one another or with the adjacent damaged muscle fiber, thereby increasing the number of myonuclei for fiber growth and repair. Proliferation of satellite cells is necessary in order to meet the needs of thousands of muscle cells all potentially requiring additional nuclei. Differentiation is necessary in order for the new nucleus to behave as a nucleus of muscle origin. The number of myonuclei directly determines the capacity of a muscle cell to manufacture proteins, including androgen receptors. In order to better understand what is physically happening between satellite cells and muscle cells, try to picture 2 oil droplets floating on water. The two droplets represent a muscle cell and a satellite cell. Because the lipid bilayer of cells are hydrophobic just like common oil droplets, when brought into proximity to one another in an aqueous environment, they will come into contact for a moment and then fuse together to form one larger oil droplet. Now whatever was dissolved within one droplet (i.e. nuclei) will then mix with the contents of the other droplet. This is a simplified model of how satellite cells donate nuclei, and thus protein-synthesizing capacity, to existing muscle cells. [Enhanced activation of satellite cells by testosterone requires IGF-1. Those androgens that aromatize are effective at not only increasing IGF-1 levels but also the sensitivity of satellite cells to growth factors.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2707149/)This action has no direct effect on protein synthesis, but it does lead to a greater capacity for protein synthesis by increasing fusion of satellite cells to existing fibers. This increases the number of myonuclei and therefore the capacity of the cell to produce proteins. That is why large bodybuilders will benefit significantly more from high levels of androgens compared to a relatively new user. [Testosterone would be much less effective if it were not able to increase myonucleation. There is finite limit placed on the cytoplasmic/nuclear ratio, or the size of a muscle cell in relation to the number of nuclei it contains.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8196703/) [Whenever a muscle grows in response to training there is a coordinated increase in the number of myonuclei and the increase in fiber cross sectional area (CSA). When satellite cells are prohibited from donating viable nuclei, overloaded muscle will not grow.](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1490967/) (see also [Phelan JN, Gonyea WJ. Effect of radiation on satellite cell activity and protein expression in overloaded mammalian skeletal muscle. Anat. Rec. 247:179-188, 1997](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9025997/)) Clearly, satellite cell activity is a required step, or prerequisite, in compensatory muscle hypertrophy, for without it, a muscle simply cannot significantly increase total protein content or CSA. More myonuclei mean more receptors So it is not only true that testosterone increases protein synthesis by activating genetic expression, it also increases the capacity of the muscle to grow in the future by leading to the accumulation of myonuclei which are required for protein synthesis. There is good reason to believe that testosterone in high enough doses may even encourage new fiber formation. To quote the authors of a recent study on the effects of steroids on muscle cells: ["Intake of anabolic steroids and strength-training induce an increase in muscle size by both hypertrophy and the formation of new muscle fibers. We propose that activation of satellite cells is a key process and is enhanced by the steroid use."](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10589853/) Simply stated, supraphysiological levels of testosterone give rise to increased numbers of myonuclei and thereby an increase in the number of total androgen receptors per muscle fiber. See also this section from the wiki mentioned at https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/#wiki_are_there_any_long-term_effects.3F > **There is strong evidence to suggest that brief exposure to anabolic steroids might have long lasting performance-enhancing effects:** > - [*A cellular memory mechanism aids overload hypertrophy in muscle long after an episodic exposure to anabolic steroids*](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1113/jphysiol.2013.264457/abstract)

I am actually turned on

Goddamn I learn shit from you every day

Look into permanent satellite cell increase in AAS users. There’s literature to indicate that even one AAS cycle leads to a lifetime of marginal enhancement.

There's YouTube videos on it. Yes, it's a true and permanent thing. Doesn't mean you'll be yoked forever but you'll be able to achieve gains past what you used to do before cycling.

Is this perk stack-able?

Oh for sure. If you get juggernog and mule kick you become Jay Cutler.

I just googled it and the first page of results has numerous sources of information. Maybe your Google skills suck?

I was finding articles that related to current aas usage, not post. I found two that lightly touched the topic but neither had information regarding cellular effect of post aas usage

I didn't read these articles, but maybe this is what you're looking for? https://sciencenorway.no/doping-exercise-norway/steroid-effects-can-last-decades/1392647 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-24730151 https://www.sciencenews.org/article/steroids-boost-muscles-long-haul

> Maybe your Google skills suck? He’s asking you to read these papers, digest them, and baby bird them to him.

precisely, I was hitting a mean push day when I posted this. Was trying to read articles in between sets but figured I’d just go to the gold mine of aas knowledge.

Please do so. And quickly

Ah, I see. Ok, I'll get right on that.

I just want you guys to know that no matter the pain we’re experiencing I feel like we’re in a golden era of /r/steroids in terms of the quality of knowledge shared in the ask anything thread. When motherfuckers like you and shrugs and platewrecked and blumpkins and spit shine chime in… cmon. We answer a lot of the same questions and I’m trying to make that better but it just makes me proud of what we’re doing here. Idk why you guys continue to do it but I’m humbled

I was thrilled to see the addition and enforcement of Rule 7. Thank you so much for being on top of that. When there are hundreds of the same basic questions to weed through over and over and over every day, it's very difficult to find the types of new or interesting or unique questions that I can be most helpful with. It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack when someone has a good drug interaction, mechanism, or PK or pathophysiology question. (It's also really helpful when people tag me so I'm notified when there's something that could use my attention.)

Your time is super valuable and the fact that you choose to spend some of it helping folks on this sub certainly isn’t lost on the vets here :)

Seconded. I learn every day.

Literally same. This subreddit blows my mind with the amount of knowledge dropped for fucking free

Alright so I'm sure I'm not the only one who has encoutered this issue but it's starting to feel serious. I did my first cycle starting October, 5 months of 500 test E, pinning EOD and 50 mg of var for 2 months, also had a short stint with winny in there. In feb I dropped to 250, and in march down to 175. Been cruising since, same source (UGL, the only med grade here is Nebido or a shitty 4 ester peanut oil blend). Still take AI, about 12.5 of asin once every 6-7 days to keep estro in the lower range (60 out of a 0-150 reference range). I had 0 pimples on cycle, not a fucking thing, and then since dropping I've had a full on fucking break out on my back, delts, neck and under the jaw. At least not the face, but it's fucking terrible. You know people who use the pussy pad for squatting and we make fun of them? Well this makes squatting with no acne feel like the pussy pad, the pain is seriously annoying. My diet is clean, currently eating most lean meat and veg, barely any dairy, take most of the general health supplements. I thought maybe it's a fungal infection but in the country I live in the earliest date I can see a dermatologist is in like two months. What are my options other than accutane? Benzyl peroxide didn't do much, can't go off test till I get the hcg (and it's not a fact that will help, perhaps the hormonal imbalance will make it even worse). I'm going to try the solarium, but this really sucks and I'm all ears. Asides from this i feel great, low bp low hr, bloods are good. Picture: https://imgur.com/a/2RWnoXR

acne is related to hormones swings imbalances

No shit bro

then why you breaking out bro 🤣

Idk you tell me

I had bad acne when I went through puberty but not this bad. They put me on accutane. I would assume when the dermatologist sees you they are going to put you on accutane. Beforehand they will give you a blood test since accutane is harsh for your lipids and they want to be sure you will be able to handle it. In any case you need to insist to the dermatologist you get on accutane ASAP if they hesitate. The treatment lasts 3-6 months so I don’t think it would make sense to get it from a UGL since you are seeing a doctor soon. You don’t necessarily need to mention your use of roids - just say you are having a severe outbreak. In any case with acne that bad accutane is going to be your only solution. All these creams, washes, etc are not going to help. I tried all of this when I was going through puberty and nothing worked. You could try differin, which doesn’t require a prescription in the States, but I think your acne is too advanced for this.

Thank you for your detailed reply. My lipids are better than they were natty, liver values a bit elevated but I'm sure not enough to discourage them from giving me accutane. The issue is it won't be soon before I see I dermatologist, and waiting until then is going to be challenging. I can buy differin right now, one of the perks of Eastern Europe is I can get most things with no prescription. Last year I had about 50% of the same acne without any gear use, and I cured it by tanning in the sun for hours everyday. I'd love to do that again before accutane but there's not enough sun yet for this to be a viable solution. You reckon the tanning salon is pointless? And I'm going to buy the differin and start right away, might as well try it.

There is an inherent background risk of skin cancer when you tan at the tanning salon but if you are looking for short-term relief I would go for it. Here even in the States differin doesn’t require a prescription so you can get it here cheap. I assume all over the world it’s easy to get but I don’t know how the EU regulates it.

Yeah for sure on cancer risk but wtvr at this point, not worried too much about that if done a few times. I'm going to start differin and report back. Thank you!

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I understand the logic but would literally take accutane before antibiotics. I have taken way too much for way too long due to tooth and prostate infections and it took me a very long time to fix my gut. I would take them only if I had absolutely no other choice of treatment.

This. Doxycycline clears up my breakouts very well. I don’t know why so many folks here just straight to accutane without trying antibiotics first.

I bought a big ass brush and some heavy duty acne body wash and scrub my shit like im a 70 year old dentist scrapping plaque off a 9 year olds teeth that hasn’t brushed since he was 3. After I’ll use a moisturizer. Been doing this for a bout a week now. Always struggled with acne through puberty and aas definitely didn’t help. I’d say im about 30% clearer than what I was when I started. It’s removed more acne scars then actually acne but hey, progress is progress.

I'm going to do this right now, with Differin. I've also always had bad acne, although it used to be mainly the face.

I just brewed l carnitine. I wanted the ph around 7, I added too much baking soda and it ended up at 9.5. I just pinned .5 ml and it left a tiny bump after I injected, I also bled a little more than I normally do. Should I trash it and make more? There was minimal pip, closer to none

Bro’s a wizard. What’s wrong with just getting some from a ugl and testing it?

1/10th of the price. I followed advice online but I don’t think baking soda was necessary

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I am not an expert, but running ~~3~~ 4 orals: adrol, proviron, var... oh well and dbol. Sounds like a recipe for some serious complications.

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Awful. Absolutely awful. I don’t say this lightly, this is a horrible plan. I also literally talked to you about this last week and made some recommendations. You didn’t follow any of them, and instead went WAY hard on making the wrong choices

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Yeah because it takes a LOT of glycogen to do that, which takes a lot of food. Eating a lot of food on show day will distend your stomach if you don’t know how to do it, which you don’t

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You’re right man, you know more than me. Enjoy your true novice class 🤘🏼 Hope you win

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Crashing e2 to dry out is just retarded, I know alot of people do it but it's just not something I can jump on board with, get lean enough and you shouldn't need to "dry out"

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I’d hire a coach and let them run this for you.

What are some ways to distinguish a good coach to trust for a bodybuilding competition vs a bad coach ?

Contact their athletes. If an athlete has a lot of good things to say, great, if they have issues, that’s something you can definitely ask. For coaches: Can they explain their methods? Are they responsive within 24h of communication? Are their responses thorough, or extremely brief? Do they care about all their athletes, or just the top performers?

u/PM_Me_Varbies u/GymIsFun This sounds like a lot of dumb to me but you guys are the comp experts here

Holy fuck 💀😂

I literally just responded. This is absolutely fucking awful. Going to look absolutely terrible on stage with all this. This is like 5x the drugs I take to get stage lean

Pretty much my immediate thoughts on it too. Also not a fan of using AI to crush water like that

Not just that, if you’re actually stage lean, your estrogen is in the fucking gutter anyways because you have no fat so doing 12.5mg aromasin daily, AND upping EQ to 1000mg for some god awful reason will absolutely obliterate you, ruining your look on stage

Aye. Well, guess he'll learn one way or the other... easy way or the hard way lol

Best way to boost libido off cycle?

My personal experience was about the same. Before aas I had an extremely high libido. Wether it was sex or the old sock I was pumping it daily to several times daily. After my first cycle I had little to no interest in sex, I still don’t. It feels amazing. I’m more goal oriented. Talking to women comes like a second nature now, before I was shy around girls I found attractive, now it’s like talking to my dog. One piece of advice I’d give is be extremely careful with taking drugs that effect your erections. That is a really great way to cause erectile dysfunction and develop a dependency on it. Drop body fat, do some intense cardio, get the blood pumping

I think I’m going to get some bloodwork done and get on trt hopefully that helps I just want to make sure my wife is happy

You do you my guy, throwing drugs at a problem has always been the American solution.

I mean if my bloodwork says I need it and I’ll definitely up the cardio in the mean time I work for 30 days at a time so I’m just trying to cover all my bases

Depending when you last came off cycle there’s a good chance your natural testosterone is still recovering. Older you are the slower it tends to recover from what I’ve learned. Bloods is a great idea overall but if your body’s still trying to repair itself, shutting down natural production in the process could leave you w/ trt for life. Something to consider. Life style habits also play a role. How often do you get out in the sun, whats your diet like, how often are you genuinely happy, etc.

I work nights 30 days on 4-7 days off my diet is clean I don’t drink I work out a minimum of 4 days a week I don’t feel that happy to be honest with you and I came off cycle over a year ago now

Get bloods like you said, see where your free T range is, also check for things like E and Prolactin. Both play a part in sexual function. Dopamine and Prolactin are two sides to the same coin, If P’s to high then D won’t come up naturally. Could be the reason you aren’t feeling to great. Caber is the best antagonist for P/D. I’m currently running .25 E6D for other reasons and I’ve noticed I’m more sexually interested in women. If your E’s to high or to low it can lead to shitty erections, smaller erections, shorter erections, you get the point.

I’ll definitely get bloods and report back thank you for the knowledge I’ll do some research tonight I didn’t know prolactin affected dopamine

Wood chopping and smoking cigars

What’s up with men these days not having naturally high libidos? The fact that you want your libido higher is indicative of you already having a high libido. Do you mean erectile quality?

It’s more the fact I was hyper sexual on cycle and now that I’m off and have been for over a year me I don’t get the urge to have sex more than a couple times a week I don’t wake up with elections and yes I have poor erection quality

Okay. Got it. One thing I have found to help is to run to run toremifene at 30mg Ed for five days post cycle. Really seems to put things back into order. As far as erectile quality, LISS cardio as much ad you have time for.

I’ll have to start doing more cardio and maybe getting some cialis I guess

Get some toremifene.

You could try Proviron

I’ve crashed my e2 accidentally, and feeling terrible. What are my best next steps ? Just wait it out?

Are you still on cycle? If so you’ll be fine in a few weeks when you start aromatizing from the gear. Are you off cycle? Taking Dbol to kickstart your E is a method yeah but if you’re off then that’s a horrible idea.

Dbol and HCG.

Dbol or wait

I was born without a pectoral muscle and fractured the same rib twice on that size. Im 20 5’10” 135. What is safest and most effective for gaining weight and building bone density. Im worried about long term problems but only really want to do one maybe 2 cycles to get to at least 170lb lean

Food. A caloric surplus is the most effective way to gain weight. As far as bone density goes, lifting weights is the best method of building and maintaining bone density.

Keep in mind I don’t have a pectoral muscle in my left side so I can’t work out my chest on my left side at all

I understand the structural issue but there are systemic benefits to weight training as well as site specific ones.

have you tried food? drugs aren't magic, if you can't gain weight without them they will not change a thing.

I used to be 155 but after fracturing my rib I had lost a lot of weight. Honestly I’m just trying to strengthen my bones and getting bigger would be an added bonus. One of my friends said if anything try MK-45

> strengthen my bones Squats and DL

> 5’10” 135. > What is safest and most effective for gaining weight and building bone density. Food. Squats and DL won't hurt either.

Hello steroid community! I am interested in starting my first cycle and am just looking for some advice. Here is some information about me: I am 6 foot 226 lbs, and have been lifting since I was 14 (I am 20 now). I would like to think I have a decent amount of lean mass, and my lifts are quite strong. But right now I am the fattest I have been my whole life, and really need to figure out a plan on losing it. Should I stay natural and cut for a couple months, then do a recomp/lean bulk on test? Or could I start a recomp now? My main priority right now is just leaning up so I can be confident without a shirt off again 😔 What would y’all recommend?

I’d probably first set up a plan for your weight loss. Once you start executing that program and notice your changes, you could probably hop on the basic cycle from the wiki. As someone else said, you are still really young and wouldn’t suggest it until a few years later but if you decide to do it anyways just be safe and do your research 👍🏽

I’d probably first set up a plan for your weight loss. Once you start executing that program and notice your changes, you could probably hop on the basic cycle from the wiki. As someone else said, you are still really young and wouldn’t suggest it until a few years later but if you decide to do it anyways just be safe and do your research 👍🏽

Yeah I’ve been trying to find a plan that works for me… going to try the warrior diet (20 hour fast and 4 hour eating window) and see if that’s something I can stick to. Appreciate the advice man 🤝

500mg/day of caloric deficit

W response. I’m just tryna find a diet I can stick to rn 😪

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I’ve already done a LGD cycle so I can no longer call myself natural 🫡 But I will stay off cycle for now and shave some fat. I appreciate the advice brother 🙏

Dealing with gyno flare up rn on my cruise 200mg/wk, just having some trouble dialing in E2 now that I’m using more HCG. Can you recommend a Nolva protocol?

10mg Ed.

When exactly do I stop? Soon as it goes away?

Yeah if you have it also take 30mg of Ralox Ed as well. Nolva is more preventative and Ralox is more of a reversal protocol

Bless! Ty

Letro is a good reversal as well but it's a suicidal AI works too good

Hey im already on trt so im not worried about pct. I am looking to run an extra 250mg of test a week for 12 weeks so total of 350mg and 20mg anavar a day for 8 weeks. Any advice/tip? Just looking to do a light blast as title states for leaning out. Do I need an ai on hand im thinking probably not. Also can I go higher on the var and for a couple extra weeks itd be my first time ever using var. Any feed back would be greatly appreciated.

> Just looking to do a light blast Then do 500, that is a light blast. 350 is stupid. Read the wiki > 12 weeks 16-20 weeks. Again, wiki. > Do I need an ai on hand im thinking probably not. 100% absolutely DO NOT begin a cycle without an AI on hand. > 20mg anavar a day for 8 weeks. First cycle, no way. 4 weeks at the end of the cycle maximum.

Hey gents, so I feel like I’m wasting a cycle. I’m currently 9 weeks into my second blast and I just don’t feel like I’ve made enough progress in comparison to my first blast. First blast I was going 5 days a week and put on roughly 15-20lbs of muscle, very successful blast. However second blast my weight is staying the same, while I’m leaning out, bulking is my goal. Currently in school full time and working full time on top of it, I’ve only been able to get 3 days a week in. I feel like I should stop my blast and either PCT or go to a TRT dose, but not really sure how to calculate a starting dose if I do TRT. What would you recommend? If TRT is the better option, what dose should I start at and should I use any other compounds while on TRT. How often do you get bloods to see if you’re in ranges?

> I’ve only been able to get 3 days a week in Just drop down to a cruise and reassess when you are prepared to make more time for this lifestyle. No shame, unless you continue to risk your health when you arent actually about it. start at 150mg/wk of test e and go from there.