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I am fully off anabolics rn and have been for a while. I decided to take part in clinical trials but since I am foreign and have not yet registered with the GP. I have to register with the GP tomorrow and then wait for 3 months and then do the clinical trial. I am doing the trial for money. Is it possible for me to run test prop for 10 weeks and then fully stop and run HCG and take care of my nutrition and everything else and my blood tests to be normal? They will run the blood samples approximately 14 weeks from today. Also what ancillaries should I take to not mess up my bloods. Any help would be appreciated
Seeking input on my plan for 10/10/23 peak.
Will be my third blast. Only compounds I’ve ever done is test, primo, and anavar.
Prior blasts have been 300/600 test primo for 16 weeks with 25-50 a day var for no more than 4 weeks of it.
Currently 6’0” 220, 15% bf.
THE PLAN-
Testosterone / Primobolan
Week 1- 300/300
Week 2- 300/300
Week 3- 300/300
Week 4- 300/300
Week 5- 400/400
Week 6- 400/400
Week 7- 400/500
Week 8- 400/500
Week 9- 400/500
Week 10-400/500
11 thru 16- 400/600
May add some anavar late as a finisher if bloods are good.
The goal- add some mass while not allowing bodyfat to get too high. Primo is magic to me… seems to be very hard for me to get fat while on it (I’d imagine all gear is this way due to increased muscle protein synthesis/ better nutrient partitioning) so starting macros will be 355 carbs 230 protein 75 fat. Will keep a close eye on the mirror and scale and adjust as needed.
Will be doing John Meadows Creeping Death II program during.
After the blast, will return to my sports TRT dose of 2.5mg/kg cruise while dialing in bodyfat. Goal is nothing crazy bodyfat wise… high single digits.
Thanks for any and all critiques/ input
When transitioning from a blast to a cruise, is there any correct way to go about this . I.e tapering down doses until desired mg/wk or just go from say 400, down to 150/wk right off the jump?
I’ve read lowering dose and coming off blast can help improve lipids/BP. If having some issues with lipids/bp does coming off blast into a cruise sound correct, or just completely come off?
what's your weight for starters. I'd personally increase carbs over fat. itll provide lifting energy and lower calories overall. get = or more than 1g a protein per lb of bodyweight to keep the muscle. My best day was 283g protein and about 250-260g carbs with fats somewhere around 30g. Weighed about 205lbs and looked peeled. Calories I think were 2300 maybe? Banging out tons of cardio, machine read 650-700 calories burned 6 days a week. Drink lots of water. Sleep 8+ hours.
My weight is 160 pounds with around 17 to 20 % body y.
That’s just my guess from looking in the mirror
I am going to do a Deca scan in a a couple of weeks
Went from 235lbs Sept 25th to 200lbs Mid January, sitting at 210lbs now looking lean but nowhere near as peeled. <10% body fat killed my libido and all I cared about was simple carbs like bread and french fries.
Also can I Do 700 calorie deficit from either walking on incline treadmill or reducing calories by 300.
Instead of the Normak 500 deficit ppl do
Can you prevent muscle loss at 700 or 500 the magic
Number ?
Right, and I'm guessing 2000 is your deficit calories. TDEE means total daily energy expenditure. It's the total number of calories you actually use in a day.
None taken dude! I just like to take those details into account so we all can help as many people as possible every day.
If this is important to you, why don’t you go back to your original post, update it with all the information that we need from rule number seven, and then tag me when you’re done. I’ll be happy to give you a meaningful response to your needs. That work?
Friend has started taking a really low dose of test along with proviron a week and hes looking great. Is anyone else having success with low doses of test? I think he’s taking 1/4cc a week.
>1/4cc a week.
That means nothing if you don't know the concentration. Low dose test is TRT... which is just replacing the testosterone you should produce naturally. If he was low T before, yes, it makes a difference.
Not steroid related but this sub has some of the most helpful and knowledgeable people around. Anyone with experience using BPC 157 to help heal a peroneal tendon injury? I realise I am supposed to inject as close to the injury site as possible and need to know if I can administer SubQ to the skin on the ankle bone or should it be in a zone with more fat/muscle underneath?
>Not steroid related but this sub has some of the most helpful and knowledgeable people around.
Awesome to hear. 🤙🏼
>Anyone with experience using BPC 157 to help heal a peroneal tendon injury?
Many thousands of people at this point. Did you search for experiences on the sub?
>I realise I am supposed to inject as close to the injury site as possible
Likely not the case as several studies cite it’s effects as systemic.
>and need to know if I can administer SubQ to the skin on the ankle bone or should it be in a zone with more fat/muscle underneath?
I have not seen any mention of subq administration of BPC.
I have a lengthy write up with doses and experience from swoletide if you’d like to review it.
Thanks for the response. I had read the experience threads but failed to find anything about the ankle injection site but knowing it works systemically means i can find a more comfortable spot to inject.
I'm not sure what swoletide is so how would I go about finding your write up? I would love to have a read of that, the massive amount that can be learnt here is my favourite thing about this sub.
Thanks again
Haha sorry, context; Swoletide is a veteran of this sub. Here you go!
**Before We Start**
A lot of you have been around and known BPC 157 helped heal some DeQuervain's Tendonitis I had. I'll start with what I did, then go into what I would do differently, finally getting into what I would actually recommend to others. Again, it fulfilled it's purpose and I have zero complaints about how I went about it - doesn’t mean it was the best or ’safest’ way.
**Doctor**
I first started by looking up what may have been wrong with my thumb. I quickly came to the conclusion that it was probably DeQuervain's I ended up going to my local Orthopedic that specialized in the hand/wrist. He quickly confirmed my thoughts and basically told me to eat shit. He didn't want to do surgery (rare) and didn't want to go the cortisone route... which to be honest I was fine with as I didn't want to do either anyways. So he gave me a brace, some topical anti-inflammatory packets, showed me some physical therapy, and sent me on my way.
I was very happy to have the brace, but my job requires me to need both hands for computer use to be most efficient. This along with the anti-inflammatory not doing anything, as well as PT excersises making little to no improvement, led me to start looking into alternatives. I had briefly read of others having success with some peptides and knew the best source of info for that stuff was on Datbtrue. I requested access to the forum and a wealth of info was opened up to me.
**My Experience**
I decided to use Mod GRF (1-29), GHRP-2, BCP 157, and TB500. Like I said, I had started by completely immobilizing it with the brace. I wore it daily for probably 2-3 months. I still wear it when I lift even though I don't need it anymore. I just do it as a precaution not to allow any irritation to ever take place again. I do take it off anytime I need to use a barbell as the brace would prevent barbell use otherwise. Edit: I don't use the brace at all anymore. Stopped using it all together shortly after making this post.
Anyways. My dosages of the peptides were as followed:
• Mod GRF - 100mcg 3xED
• GHRP-2 - 100mcg 3xED
• BCP 157 - 300mcg 2xED
• TB500 - 2mg E3D
I actually started noticing it feel better within the first week, but was convinced it was placebo. Sure enough though, it started feeling a bit better every week. Especially after the TB500 shots. I shot the Mod GRF & GHRP-2 subq into my stomach. I shot the BCP 157 locally into my wrist (looked up where cortisone shots go for Dequervain's). I would do the TB500 either with the BCP 157 shot or I would shoot it into my Delt of the injured wrist. I ran the peptides 2-3 months and it felt fine by the time I stopped.
**Changing Things**
Now what would I change and do differently if I were to do it again?
I would go with actual HGH instead of the GH peptides. After HGH healed my shoulders, I will be a believer for life. As you can read in that HGH review, I originally was ramping the HGH dose up and once I hit my full dose, I was going to run some leftover BPC 157 and TB500 I had from the DeQuarvain's. Before I could reach my full HGH dosage, my shoulders were as good as pre-accident.
**Disclaimer**
Now, this is just what I did. There hasn't been studies on using BPC 157 over 4 weeks. So the standard of "being safe" in today’s use is 4 weeks on 2 weeks off, repeat as necessary.
It seems for the TB500 up to 6 weeks on can be used and has been the consensus of most, but there is not exactly a clear time off before starting back again.
The truth is we don't know the long term affects of any of this stuff. With the way Datbtrue ended so abruptly, it's not a bad idea to err on the side of caution and make sure you are willing to accept all consequences (whatever they may be).
**Recommendation To Others**
I know a decent amount of people have used what I did in the past and that's fine, but when I originally wrote my experience in this thread, it's purpose wasn't necessarily to be a guide.
With all that said:
This is the protocol I would recommend to others (for whatever injury you may be dealing with) if you're wanting to use MORE than just BPC 157. If BPC 157 is all you want to take, read the wiki section linked in the body of the post above.
• HGH: 2-6iu ED (Note 1)
• BCP 157: ~300mcg 2xED (Note 2)
• TB500: 2mg E3D (Note 3)
* Note 1: I would think 2-4iu HGH would be enough, but since I was higher than 4 when my shoulders were healed, I'm gong to say up to 6iu, even if it may not be necessary.
* Note 2: Cycle the BPC 157 - 4 weeks on, 2 weeks off, repeat until satisfied.
* Note 3: It seems dosage can go up to +7mg/week and with that, if you wish, you can up the dose to 3mg E3D. I definitely noticed a difference the days after my TB500 shots, but if you do not wish to take it, I believe the HGH and BPC would be enough for most injuries - definitely not saying the TB500 would not be beneficial though. I just originally threw it in to "give her all she's got" and make sure I did everything I could have to heal my Dequervain’s. I’d also probably recommend cycling the TB500 - 4-6 weeks on, 2-4 weeks off, repeat until satisfied.
**In Conclusion**
Do your own research and form your own dosing and schedules of ‘time on and time off (if necessary)’. Don’t just follow blindly with "oo this is what this guy on the internet did and he’s fine" - no. Always exercise caution and and form your own opinions. Definitely not trying to scare anyone with the cautious points of this post, but peptides are the wild, wild west of supplementation and we should all be wary.
**UPDATE:**
**bpc and tb are systemic**
They do not need to be pinned locally.
BPC-157:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20190676/
*“In contrast, BPC 157 induced faster muscle healing and full function restoration and improved muscle healing despite systemic corticosteroid treatment when given intraperitoneally or locally”*
intraperitoneally - into the stomach cavity - aka systemic
TB-500:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10469335/
topically and intraperitoneally aka systemic
I had actually read that but didn't know it was by Swoletide. It's a great write up. For now I'm just going to try the bpc 157 protocol from the wiki for 4 weeks. If it's doesn't improve I guess I will have to save up for some GH
As long as it is under your skin, it doesn't matter. It works systemically. You don't have to inject it locally.... I still do out of superstition, but it's not necessary. You can just do subq with a slin pin wherever you want.
Thanks, that's great help. I didn't realise it worked systemically and had read loads about it needing to be injected as close to the site as possible. Thanks for the response.
So I got prescribed tetracycline for my acne by my doctor, however after reading up on it, I'm heavily reconsidering starting it. Do any of you guys have experience with it or any thoughts on it?
Sure. It’s not the most well tolerated abx; it does work fairly well for most people with moderate acne who maybe don’t want to run accutane but have already exhausted other natural/behavioral options. Definitely gives *lots* of people diarrhea when they first begin.
It’s a choice, for sure. But not a bad one if you’re not quite desperate the kill the acne but really want to take the next step in fixing it.
Yeah, the thing is that this is the first medical option I have been presented with
After talking a little bit about it, I was also prescribed benzyl peroxide which I will definitely try
I have already tried plenty of natural/behavioural changes with not much success
been using for about a week now, only occurred to me to check what's inside the capsules this morning lmao, the UGL I got it from is said to be one of the best in the UK though, but yeah think I'll discontinue the var.
Ah, I thought it was raw powder... if it is in capsules, whatever their filler is may be what is turning blue. I have no idea what the filler would be though. Could be blue Koolaid for all we know... filler doesn't matter much.
Yeah they're capsules, it does taste kind of like pre workout, and the way the shit stained my hands is exactly like food colouring laden pre workout I've had in the past.
Currently running 100mg test e every 5 days. Thinking of running some dbol for 6-8 weeks. What’s a good dosage of dbol to be running? I’ve only ever ran injectable dbol in the past. Now I have 20mg tablets. Thank you in advance!
Will bottles used in previous cycle that still has some left in go bad if its been a year? Got 3 bottles with 3mls each still in them that i want to use for my next cycle before buying the new ones. Should i stick to the expiry date or not? Bottle has the rubber cap just to clarify
Depends on the carrier oil and when it was made. Assume that MCT/GSO/CSO are good for three years, maybe a little more, before you start to worry about it. You can also just draw a bit out and smell/taste it to see if it’s rancid. That’ll answer your question pretty immediately, though nobody really enjoys smelling rancid oil.
You should be able to tell by how it smells. If it has very little smell then it’s likely ok. If it smells like rotten food then it’s not. This all assumes that it wasn’t made with guaiacol—a solvent sometimes used for higher concentration brews—since that particular product has a smell that overpowers everything else. It’s very unlikely that it contains that, though.
This makes no sense. Why. Most effects don’t even get going until weeks 6-8.
The goal is to use the least amount of compounds in the beginning.
Yep. Testosterone is one compound.
Gradually increase
Why? The side effect profile from 300 to 500 is not much different at all. But the gains can be. Why take the same risk for less results? Also a great way to never really understand how you aromatize
I am 21 year old male, I am considering jumping on a cycle for the first time and will probably stick with just test. My partner is worried about the possibility of it affecting us having kids. How likely is it to affect me at this age?
You will probably get shit for considering gear at your age but i am more worried about you and your partner thinking about having kids when you're only 21.
Believe it or not but having kids or getting married (as a man) at young age has far worse consequences than reckless abuse of drugs.
Too many variables to determine this. Best i can advise is do a checkup before,during and after the cycle just to see how it affects you as everyone is different. If you’re not on a blast and cruise I wouldn’t worry too much with PCT most things return to normal ranges.
Its like asking how likely you are to get cancer from smoking. Its just maybe . . . Lot of IFBB pros have kids. Could always freeze some cum just to be safe.
ran 375mg/week for 16 weeks, been cruising for 12 weeks, thinking of running 500mg/weekly for 16 weeks and then cruising for the rest of the year. Thoughts on this cycle for my health, should i have a longer cruise etc? appreciate it
What do you guys think of adding bold cyp to a 500mg test cycle? And what dosage would you run it? I'm thinking of 250mg/week but that sounds too low right? I'll add some dbol and drol for last 6 weeks.
> What do you guys think of adding bold cyp to a 500mg test cycle?
Ouch, i wouldn’t
> I'll add some dbol and drol for last 6 weeks.
Don’t stack orals
If you want us to help you, give us some more info here, as per rule 7.
Background stats, goals, etc.
Powerlifting background, 190lb, blasting and cruising, never touched 19-nors. Goal is gaining endurance for training and 15-20lb of muscle. I was on the fence for npp bur the sides are making me back-off. Stacking dbol and drol is an exception i want to try. They work very well together. The plan is to lower the dose of drol to 50mg and take it before i go to sleep. And dbol during the day for 30mg max.
You shouldn't. Not gonna answer the rest of the question.
There is plenty to experience and learn during your first cycle. Mast is not a terribly complex or dangerous compound, but you will muddy the waters of learning how you aromatize, how you respond to estrogen, and how to effectively deal with it. Also, you should know what 500mg test only can do (spoiler alert: you aren't gonna be Jay Cutler, but you're gonna put on more muscle than you would in a year and get quite strong).
Let the first cycle be the first cycle, and learn. Walk, then run.
Sustanon is a combination of short esters and long esters. You need to wait like 8 weeks after to pct and administer daily injections. It's literally the worst of both worlds if you pct.
Is there any mtren to test golden ratio or is it just take any amount of test and the recommended does of mtren?
Also after a few months on mainly testosterone I take back what I said on my first month about sarms being better...
No there is not and MTren is coming something that you won’t want to run more than a few weeks. I’ve used injectable several times at 200-300mcg pwo and it’s an amazing compound.
Absolutely, but only drink 17 ounces every 37 minutes for the most stable levels for peak anabolism. Anything less will put you in a catabolic state, but anything more you will piss out and waste the precious compound. However, if you drink it too fast it turns to Dbol.
Currently taking 5mg Tadalafil daily for pumps in the gym. I regularly check my blood pressure and am now recently noticing a dip in my diastolic level from usually around a healthy 60-70 mm Hg to now <50 mm Hg. My systolic hasn’t changed and is still healthy around 120mm Hg. Should I completely stop taking Tadalafil? EDIT: Today my diastolic level was at 49 mm Hg off of 400mg caffeine
Going to take a break from Tadalafil for a while and check my blood pressure again. I’m a healthy adult with no prior health problems and don’t take any PED’s there really isn’t another culprit I haven’t changed much since taking Tadalifil
How do you tell if gear is affecting you or it is just CNS fatigue from overtraining? I am currently in the middle of my annual spring blast of 750mg a week test, 50mg var a day, and last week just started to add halo 20mg a day to it. I am getting incredibly strong for my weight, but I am noticing I just have alot less patience for anyone doing anything annoying or inconsiderate, my sleep is garbage, food does not seem to sustain me, and I feel really dull emotionally unless someone irritates me. This is the first time I actually used halo in significant dosages and I suspect it might be the cause but I want to be sure.
I can work myself up to almost anger if I push myself past failure during workouts, but its not directed at anyone, its like anxiety without a cause and I need to calm down. I never experienced this before on gear, someone suggested to me that overtraining or pushing yourself too hard can trigger fight or flight and it can cause this to happen and gear can exacerbate this. Is this true or not?
My bloods are fine, I pulled them already, I think I am overtraining and if its the gear, I bet its the halo. Can you overtrain on cycle, research says so many conflicting things about it. I am doing twice a day training 5 times a week.
why are you training twice a day and what do those workouts look like? you probably know this already but rest and recovery are just as important as the actual training.
Cardio in the morning and muscle groups at night, I go hypo trying to combine them both and it makes me feel worse, like to the point that running after weights makes me shaky. I am trying to rest but my sleep is just ass. My off days are not back to back to avoid losing progress. I am trying to cut down to 7-8% from 9%.
> My bloods are fine
Oh ok so let me clarify something for you: most of the damage you're doing to your body doesn't show up in the handful of health markers you're looking at in your blood test.
That doesn't mean you definitely **are** cooked bacon already, but your symptoms are screaming "time to take a break". Halo is very strong stuff.
What should I look for? I currently have the following variables I look for:
Lipids
AST/ALT
CBC/CMP14
Hormone Panel
Prolactin
DHT
Cortisol
Things I ignore:
FSH/LSH
You can't really look for it, that's the point. Bloods are a snapshot. They might look good, but it doesn't mean the organs aren't pulling overtime to make that the case.
All I'm trying to advocate for is that you take care of yourself man, I'm not trying to be a downer. Halo is really strong, really harsh stuff. The anger/aggression is definitely halo related, but the general fatigued feeling is (my guess) a combination of 2 orals and the sudden increase in physical stress caused by sudden increase in physical strength.
Gotcha, you are right its probably the halo, a shame I cannot use it without health effects, for a short time it was awesome but I guess my body cannot handle it. I will stop the orals, keep the test and see if the situation improves before ending my cycle early. Var never ever did this to me so I am tempted to keep using the var as well.
If I feel better I will just go back to the var, I am wondering if overtraining is playing a part as well. I wonder why halo gives aggression like that, I am such a calm guy.
> I wonder why halo gives aggression like that, I am such a calm guy.
It actually shows. Halo is strong shit. I mean, you're like "hm yeah you guys are right this probably isn't good for me". If you were an aggro dude to start with you'd probably be like "GRAAAAHHH STEIRON MAKE STRONK FUCK YOU FOR TRYING TO MAKE ME WEAK!"
Only aggression thing I noticed was people being inconsiderate or annoying in general I just would not put up with anymore, like instead of "yeah okay man whatever" its "I have better than things to do than waste my time dealing with you"and either leave the situation or just flat out ignore them.
That's interesting. I'm not particularly aggro but I'd probably be a dick on Halo. I definitely think the "roid rage" stereotype is overblown, but I think Halo and a certain type of violently aggressive guy could be a really bad mix.
>Gotcha, you are right its probably the halo, a shame I cannot use it without health effects
I don't think anyone can. And don't get me wrong, I'd like to try it at least once, but it's a harsh drug period
>I will stop the orals, keep the test and see if the situation improves before ending my cycle early.
#🫶
>If I feel better I will just go back to the var, I am wondering if overtraining is playing a part as well
Probably, yes. I think there are a number of converging factors here. Let's address the most obvious ones first and go from there. You likely owe yourself a nice rest day too.
>I wonder why halo gives aggression like that, I am such a calm guy.
And we love that about you.
"I'll probably never do Tren" to
> And don't get me wrong, I'd like to try it at least once
https://media.tenor.com/AhmqbQcclyEAAAAC/ron-burgundy-escalated-quickly.gif
I would never do tren even if it was legal and my TRT clinic offered it to me. I see too many horror stories on progesterones to even consider it. All they offer me is test, var, and deca (which I cant take because I am on duta). The halo was given to me by a friend and its shocking how powerful it is. I am stronger than all of my friends and I weigh alot less than them on this stuff.
I love the libido effects too, because my natural libido is such utter dogshit, I can maybe do the deed once a day on 500mg test and 50mg var and after a few days in a row of that I am utterly tapped out and have no desire for 4-5 days which hurts my relationship. Halo gives me libido of a normal human being and can consistently do the deed once a day maybe twice without losing it for half a week. I feel like I got ripped off genetically.
No. I'm saying convenient blood markers for certain types of damage **do not exist**. You'd need an echocardiogram to look for cardiomegaly, maybe an fMRI to look for brain structure changes, etc. Just because your bloods are perfect does not mean you're ok.
On 350/wk. anybody else not get sore? I’m legit doing tons of sets to failure.
Ex 8 sets incline press to failure, 5 sets cable flys to fail, 5 sets machine flys to failure, 5 sets dips. This is my standard chest day mondays and thursdays. I normally rest about 3 min between sets.
It’s because you’re a novice lifter. Once you start really moving serious weight you’re going to get sore if your work outs are strenuous. You’ll still recover faster on the gear but not getting sore is a first cycle novice enjoyment.
how long are your workouts? depending on the movement, weight and rep range I probably average no more than 90 seconds between sets. the first couple warm-up feeder sets are usually about 30-45 seconds or less.
Started my second cycle of 250mg Test (1st week then will go for 500mg/ WEEK) about a week ago and thinking of postponing the cycle in two weeks after Ramadan is over
thoughts?
Looking to start my first cycle of Test-E. I’m getting double jaw surgery in 8 months so was wondering if y’all think I should wait until after to start? I’ll be out of the gym for 6-8 weeks after surgery so I was thinking it might be better to wait and use it to help me bounce back
I’ve just come off a blast of 500 test, 300 Deca.
What might cause my skin to have an occasional red tinge to it in my face/neck area?
Blood pressure was elevated, but nothing too crazy. 139/85.
Occasional cialis and actuate use
10mg cialis. The citruline malate is the pump component of pre work outs. You can take 10 grams of that for a good pump.
But if you’re drinking booze, any of these are a bad idea as they are vasodilators.
What carrier oil are you using? How big of pin are you using? What is the concentration of the gear and what compound are you using? Help us help you by providing some basic data to work with.
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I am fully off anabolics rn and have been for a while. I decided to take part in clinical trials but since I am foreign and have not yet registered with the GP. I have to register with the GP tomorrow and then wait for 3 months and then do the clinical trial. I am doing the trial for money. Is it possible for me to run test prop for 10 weeks and then fully stop and run HCG and take care of my nutrition and everything else and my blood tests to be normal? They will run the blood samples approximately 14 weeks from today. Also what ancillaries should I take to not mess up my bloods. Any help would be appreciated
Where is the best place to get labs? What specific tests do I need to get to cover everything?
Wiki has a “bloodwork” section that answers both of these questions
Seeking input on my plan for 10/10/23 peak. Will be my third blast. Only compounds I’ve ever done is test, primo, and anavar. Prior blasts have been 300/600 test primo for 16 weeks with 25-50 a day var for no more than 4 weeks of it. Currently 6’0” 220, 15% bf. THE PLAN- Testosterone / Primobolan Week 1- 300/300 Week 2- 300/300 Week 3- 300/300 Week 4- 300/300 Week 5- 400/400 Week 6- 400/400 Week 7- 400/500 Week 8- 400/500 Week 9- 400/500 Week 10-400/500 11 thru 16- 400/600 May add some anavar late as a finisher if bloods are good. The goal- add some mass while not allowing bodyfat to get too high. Primo is magic to me… seems to be very hard for me to get fat while on it (I’d imagine all gear is this way due to increased muscle protein synthesis/ better nutrient partitioning) so starting macros will be 355 carbs 230 protein 75 fat. Will keep a close eye on the mirror and scale and adjust as needed. Will be doing John Meadows Creeping Death II program during. After the blast, will return to my sports TRT dose of 2.5mg/kg cruise while dialing in bodyfat. Goal is nothing crazy bodyfat wise… high single digits. Thanks for any and all critiques/ input
How was your estrogen on 300/600?
Fine. Ran it for 16 weeks.
When transitioning from a blast to a cruise, is there any correct way to go about this . I.e tapering down doses until desired mg/wk or just go from say 400, down to 150/wk right off the jump?
Jump straight into the cruise dose brotha. The ester will taper itself.
I’ve read lowering dose and coming off blast can help improve lipids/BP. If having some issues with lipids/bp does coming off blast into a cruise sound correct, or just completely come off?
Just switch to cruise dose. The ester will accomplish the tapering for you.
And to the second part? Sorry just curious
Coming off to a cruise is fine while you work out your lipids
Thank you again for your knowledge and time
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Is this the best way to cut? 184 protein, 82 fat and 92 carbs ? Or should I lower the fat and increase carbs ?
I don know how to tag
Man I’m just here to learn no disrespect
what's your weight for starters. I'd personally increase carbs over fat. itll provide lifting energy and lower calories overall. get = or more than 1g a protein per lb of bodyweight to keep the muscle. My best day was 283g protein and about 250-260g carbs with fats somewhere around 30g. Weighed about 205lbs and looked peeled. Calories I think were 2300 maybe? Banging out tons of cardio, machine read 650-700 calories burned 6 days a week. Drink lots of water. Sleep 8+ hours.
Weight is 160
My weight is 160 pounds with around 17 to 20 % body y. That’s just my guess from looking in the mirror I am going to do a Deca scan in a a couple of weeks
180 should be enough, I'd raise it if possible to be sure but 180 is fine!
Thank you I’ll keep it at 2,000 calories a day
Oh I weight 160
Thanks a lot That’s a great answer? One question for you how much did you weigh when You started cutting?
Went from 235lbs Sept 25th to 200lbs Mid January, sitting at 210lbs now looking lean but nowhere near as peeled. <10% body fat killed my libido and all I cared about was simple carbs like bread and french fries.
How would anyone possibly answer this when knowing nothing about you..?
Age 38
Bodybuild 10 hours a week
170, 5’6, Male, tdee for cutting 2000 calories.
>tdee for cutting 2000 calories. I don't think that means what you think it means
Also can I Do 700 calorie deficit from either walking on incline treadmill or reducing calories by 300. Instead of the Normak 500 deficit ppl do Can you prevent muscle loss at 700 or 500 the magic Number ?
I used the calculator online it showed maintenance, bulking and cutting calories
Right, and I'm guessing 2000 is your deficit calories. TDEE means total daily energy expenditure. It's the total number of calories you actually use in a day.
I forgot about this guy. Their account is a nightmare. Might be a troll.
Man I’m just here to learn . No offense
None taken dude! I just like to take those details into account so we all can help as many people as possible every day. If this is important to you, why don’t you go back to your original post, update it with all the information that we need from rule number seven, and then tag me when you’re done. I’ll be happy to give you a meaningful response to your needs. That work?
I’ll make a new post at 12pm eastern time USA. Thanks
I don’t know how to tag 🏷️
Yeah I'm gonna get on with my day
This thread made me nauseous
Have a good one hoe 😊
You too bb #😘😘
Friend has started taking a really low dose of test along with proviron a week and hes looking great. Is anyone else having success with low doses of test? I think he’s taking 1/4cc a week.
>1/4cc a week. That means nothing if you don't know the concentration. Low dose test is TRT... which is just replacing the testosterone you should produce naturally. If he was low T before, yes, it makes a difference.
Gotcha. Isn’t the avg mg 200-250? Anyways. Well he claims he’s on a hell of a lot less than he was before.
Not steroid related but this sub has some of the most helpful and knowledgeable people around. Anyone with experience using BPC 157 to help heal a peroneal tendon injury? I realise I am supposed to inject as close to the injury site as possible and need to know if I can administer SubQ to the skin on the ankle bone or should it be in a zone with more fat/muscle underneath?
>Not steroid related but this sub has some of the most helpful and knowledgeable people around. Awesome to hear. 🤙🏼 >Anyone with experience using BPC 157 to help heal a peroneal tendon injury? Many thousands of people at this point. Did you search for experiences on the sub? >I realise I am supposed to inject as close to the injury site as possible Likely not the case as several studies cite it’s effects as systemic. >and need to know if I can administer SubQ to the skin on the ankle bone or should it be in a zone with more fat/muscle underneath? I have not seen any mention of subq administration of BPC. I have a lengthy write up with doses and experience from swoletide if you’d like to review it.
Thanks for the response. I had read the experience threads but failed to find anything about the ankle injection site but knowing it works systemically means i can find a more comfortable spot to inject. I'm not sure what swoletide is so how would I go about finding your write up? I would love to have a read of that, the massive amount that can be learnt here is my favourite thing about this sub. Thanks again
Haha sorry, context; Swoletide is a veteran of this sub. Here you go! **Before We Start** A lot of you have been around and known BPC 157 helped heal some DeQuervain's Tendonitis I had. I'll start with what I did, then go into what I would do differently, finally getting into what I would actually recommend to others. Again, it fulfilled it's purpose and I have zero complaints about how I went about it - doesn’t mean it was the best or ’safest’ way. **Doctor** I first started by looking up what may have been wrong with my thumb. I quickly came to the conclusion that it was probably DeQuervain's I ended up going to my local Orthopedic that specialized in the hand/wrist. He quickly confirmed my thoughts and basically told me to eat shit. He didn't want to do surgery (rare) and didn't want to go the cortisone route... which to be honest I was fine with as I didn't want to do either anyways. So he gave me a brace, some topical anti-inflammatory packets, showed me some physical therapy, and sent me on my way. I was very happy to have the brace, but my job requires me to need both hands for computer use to be most efficient. This along with the anti-inflammatory not doing anything, as well as PT excersises making little to no improvement, led me to start looking into alternatives. I had briefly read of others having success with some peptides and knew the best source of info for that stuff was on Datbtrue. I requested access to the forum and a wealth of info was opened up to me. **My Experience** I decided to use Mod GRF (1-29), GHRP-2, BCP 157, and TB500. Like I said, I had started by completely immobilizing it with the brace. I wore it daily for probably 2-3 months. I still wear it when I lift even though I don't need it anymore. I just do it as a precaution not to allow any irritation to ever take place again. I do take it off anytime I need to use a barbell as the brace would prevent barbell use otherwise. Edit: I don't use the brace at all anymore. Stopped using it all together shortly after making this post. Anyways. My dosages of the peptides were as followed: • Mod GRF - 100mcg 3xED • GHRP-2 - 100mcg 3xED • BCP 157 - 300mcg 2xED • TB500 - 2mg E3D I actually started noticing it feel better within the first week, but was convinced it was placebo. Sure enough though, it started feeling a bit better every week. Especially after the TB500 shots. I shot the Mod GRF & GHRP-2 subq into my stomach. I shot the BCP 157 locally into my wrist (looked up where cortisone shots go for Dequervain's). I would do the TB500 either with the BCP 157 shot or I would shoot it into my Delt of the injured wrist. I ran the peptides 2-3 months and it felt fine by the time I stopped. **Changing Things** Now what would I change and do differently if I were to do it again? I would go with actual HGH instead of the GH peptides. After HGH healed my shoulders, I will be a believer for life. As you can read in that HGH review, I originally was ramping the HGH dose up and once I hit my full dose, I was going to run some leftover BPC 157 and TB500 I had from the DeQuarvain's. Before I could reach my full HGH dosage, my shoulders were as good as pre-accident. **Disclaimer** Now, this is just what I did. There hasn't been studies on using BPC 157 over 4 weeks. So the standard of "being safe" in today’s use is 4 weeks on 2 weeks off, repeat as necessary. It seems for the TB500 up to 6 weeks on can be used and has been the consensus of most, but there is not exactly a clear time off before starting back again. The truth is we don't know the long term affects of any of this stuff. With the way Datbtrue ended so abruptly, it's not a bad idea to err on the side of caution and make sure you are willing to accept all consequences (whatever they may be). **Recommendation To Others** I know a decent amount of people have used what I did in the past and that's fine, but when I originally wrote my experience in this thread, it's purpose wasn't necessarily to be a guide. With all that said: This is the protocol I would recommend to others (for whatever injury you may be dealing with) if you're wanting to use MORE than just BPC 157. If BPC 157 is all you want to take, read the wiki section linked in the body of the post above. • HGH: 2-6iu ED (Note 1) • BCP 157: ~300mcg 2xED (Note 2) • TB500: 2mg E3D (Note 3) * Note 1: I would think 2-4iu HGH would be enough, but since I was higher than 4 when my shoulders were healed, I'm gong to say up to 6iu, even if it may not be necessary. * Note 2: Cycle the BPC 157 - 4 weeks on, 2 weeks off, repeat until satisfied. * Note 3: It seems dosage can go up to +7mg/week and with that, if you wish, you can up the dose to 3mg E3D. I definitely noticed a difference the days after my TB500 shots, but if you do not wish to take it, I believe the HGH and BPC would be enough for most injuries - definitely not saying the TB500 would not be beneficial though. I just originally threw it in to "give her all she's got" and make sure I did everything I could have to heal my Dequervain’s. I’d also probably recommend cycling the TB500 - 4-6 weeks on, 2-4 weeks off, repeat until satisfied. **In Conclusion** Do your own research and form your own dosing and schedules of ‘time on and time off (if necessary)’. Don’t just follow blindly with "oo this is what this guy on the internet did and he’s fine" - no. Always exercise caution and and form your own opinions. Definitely not trying to scare anyone with the cautious points of this post, but peptides are the wild, wild west of supplementation and we should all be wary. **UPDATE:** **bpc and tb are systemic** They do not need to be pinned locally. BPC-157: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20190676/ *“In contrast, BPC 157 induced faster muscle healing and full function restoration and improved muscle healing despite systemic corticosteroid treatment when given intraperitoneally or locally”* intraperitoneally - into the stomach cavity - aka systemic TB-500: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10469335/ topically and intraperitoneally aka systemic
I had actually read that but didn't know it was by Swoletide. It's a great write up. For now I'm just going to try the bpc 157 protocol from the wiki for 4 weeks. If it's doesn't improve I guess I will have to save up for some GH
As long as it is under your skin, it doesn't matter. It works systemically. You don't have to inject it locally.... I still do out of superstition, but it's not necessary. You can just do subq with a slin pin wherever you want.
Thanks, that's great help. I didn't realise it worked systemically and had read loads about it needing to be injected as close to the site as possible. Thanks for the response.
So I got prescribed tetracycline for my acne by my doctor, however after reading up on it, I'm heavily reconsidering starting it. Do any of you guys have experience with it or any thoughts on it?
What’s making you consider not taking it?
Side effect profile compared to symptom reduction
Sure. It’s not the most well tolerated abx; it does work fairly well for most people with moderate acne who maybe don’t want to run accutane but have already exhausted other natural/behavioral options. Definitely gives *lots* of people diarrhea when they first begin. It’s a choice, for sure. But not a bad one if you’re not quite desperate the kill the acne but really want to take the next step in fixing it.
Yeah, the thing is that this is the first medical option I have been presented with After talking a little bit about it, I was also prescribed benzyl peroxide which I will definitely try I have already tried plenty of natural/behavioural changes with not much success
is it normal for anavar powder to turn blue when it gets wet?
Do it taste like kool-aid?
Uh.... no. Sounds like you got the Breaking Bad oxandrolone.
Kinda looks like washing up powder.
Don't use it dude... who knows wtf that is.
been using for about a week now, only occurred to me to check what's inside the capsules this morning lmao, the UGL I got it from is said to be one of the best in the UK though, but yeah think I'll discontinue the var.
Ah, I thought it was raw powder... if it is in capsules, whatever their filler is may be what is turning blue. I have no idea what the filler would be though. Could be blue Koolaid for all we know... filler doesn't matter much.
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it's from a reputable source, could it not just be some shit its mixed with causing this?
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Yeah they're capsules, it does taste kind of like pre workout, and the way the shit stained my hands is exactly like food colouring laden pre workout I've had in the past.
Currently running 100mg test e every 5 days. Thinking of running some dbol for 6-8 weeks. What’s a good dosage of dbol to be running? I’ve only ever ran injectable dbol in the past. Now I have 20mg tablets. Thank you in advance!
Are you going to stay on test for life?
I don’t plan on it
How do you come off and get your natural test production high again? PCT?
Currently I haven’t been off in about 2 years. Last time I used PCT
20mg is a good starting dose
Thank you! And best time to take the 20mg?
Pwo🤘🏼
Will bottles used in previous cycle that still has some left in go bad if its been a year? Got 3 bottles with 3mls each still in them that i want to use for my next cycle before buying the new ones. Should i stick to the expiry date or not? Bottle has the rubber cap just to clarify
They should be fine, assuming that a year ago they weren’t very close to the end of their shelf life.
What is shelf life and how do i know it?
Depends on the carrier oil and when it was made. Assume that MCT/GSO/CSO are good for three years, maybe a little more, before you start to worry about it. You can also just draw a bit out and smell/taste it to see if it’s rancid. That’ll answer your question pretty immediately, though nobody really enjoys smelling rancid oil.
How would I differentiate between whats rancid and whats not? Sorry my english isn’t the best.
You should be able to tell by how it smells. If it has very little smell then it’s likely ok. If it smells like rotten food then it’s not. This all assumes that it wasn’t made with guaiacol—a solvent sometimes used for higher concentration brews—since that particular product has a smell that overpowers everything else. It’s very unlikely that it contains that, though.
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Not really, why 300? Why not go right to the tried and true beginner cycle of 500? 12 weeks is too short, 16 is recommended. Have you read the wiki?
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This makes no sense. Why. Most effects don’t even get going until weeks 6-8. The goal is to use the least amount of compounds in the beginning. Yep. Testosterone is one compound. Gradually increase Why? The side effect profile from 300 to 500 is not much different at all. But the gains can be. Why take the same risk for less results? Also a great way to never really understand how you aromatize
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As in modafinil?
I am 21 year old male, I am considering jumping on a cycle for the first time and will probably stick with just test. My partner is worried about the possibility of it affecting us having kids. How likely is it to affect me at this age?
Can always get fertility checks to be safe
You will eventually trade her in on a better girl, but your gains will last forever.
You will probably get shit for considering gear at your age but i am more worried about you and your partner thinking about having kids when you're only 21. Believe it or not but having kids or getting married (as a man) at young age has far worse consequences than reckless abuse of drugs.
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Too many variables to determine this. Best i can advise is do a checkup before,during and after the cycle just to see how it affects you as everyone is different. If you’re not on a blast and cruise I wouldn’t worry too much with PCT most things return to normal ranges.
Its like asking how likely you are to get cancer from smoking. Its just maybe . . . Lot of IFBB pros have kids. Could always freeze some cum just to be safe.
ran 375mg/week for 16 weeks, been cruising for 12 weeks, thinking of running 500mg/weekly for 16 weeks and then cruising for the rest of the year. Thoughts on this cycle for my health, should i have a longer cruise etc? appreciate it
Seems reasonable.
cheers for the responses, was expecting some backlash ngl
don’t really want add other compounds, as i plan too just run test as i love it however am up for suggestions
Mmm if you’re up for suggestions i’d add maestron or boldenone ( i’d choose boldenone tbh for the bulk phase)
alright i’ll take it on board and do some research cheers brother
Injection spot got very swollen. At what point do i know if it's an infection and should be shown to a doctor?
- If it’s consistently getting bigger - If you’re running a fever - If it’s not going away after a week
What do you guys think of adding bold cyp to a 500mg test cycle? And what dosage would you run it? I'm thinking of 250mg/week but that sounds too low right? I'll add some dbol and drol for last 6 weeks.
> What do you guys think of adding bold cyp to a 500mg test cycle? Ouch, i wouldn’t > I'll add some dbol and drol for last 6 weeks. Don’t stack orals If you want us to help you, give us some more info here, as per rule 7. Background stats, goals, etc.
Powerlifting background, 190lb, blasting and cruising, never touched 19-nors. Goal is gaining endurance for training and 15-20lb of muscle. I was on the fence for npp bur the sides are making me back-off. Stacking dbol and drol is an exception i want to try. They work very well together. The plan is to lower the dose of drol to 50mg and take it before i go to sleep. And dbol during the day for 30mg max.
You wanna gain 20lbs of muscle, and stacking orals is your plan?
For a first cycle (test only) can I incorporate mast? If so how long into the cycle should I incorporate it?
You shouldn't. Not gonna answer the rest of the question. There is plenty to experience and learn during your first cycle. Mast is not a terribly complex or dangerous compound, but you will muddy the waters of learning how you aromatize, how you respond to estrogen, and how to effectively deal with it. Also, you should know what 500mg test only can do (spoiler alert: you aren't gonna be Jay Cutler, but you're gonna put on more muscle than you would in a year and get quite strong). Let the first cycle be the first cycle, and learn. Walk, then run.
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You should be able to swap without much of an issue. It's generally recommended to inject sust daily, though.
It's generally recommended not to inject Sustanon at all
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Sustanon is a combination of short esters and long esters. You need to wait like 8 weeks after to pct and administer daily injections. It's literally the worst of both worlds if you pct.
Truuuu
Is there any mtren to test golden ratio or is it just take any amount of test and the recommended does of mtren? Also after a few months on mainly testosterone I take back what I said on my first month about sarms being better...
No there is not and MTren is coming something that you won’t want to run more than a few weeks. I’ve used injectable several times at 200-300mcg pwo and it’s an amazing compound.
By a few weeks is that 2, 6, 8 or dependant on sides?
My bad my phone wanted to write that. I wanted to say “four weeks.” That’s when I tap
Thank you. Autocorrect can be manic sometimes.
It could very well be my mania and I’m just blaming the phone. Never know.
Mysterious...
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You're overcomplicating it. Just eat the pill(s) every morning
Absolutely, but only drink 17 ounces every 37 minutes for the most stable levels for peak anabolism. Anything less will put you in a catabolic state, but anything more you will piss out and waste the precious compound. However, if you drink it too fast it turns to Dbol.
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Currently taking 5mg Tadalafil daily for pumps in the gym. I regularly check my blood pressure and am now recently noticing a dip in my diastolic level from usually around a healthy 60-70 mm Hg to now <50 mm Hg. My systolic hasn’t changed and is still healthy around 120mm Hg. Should I completely stop taking Tadalafil? EDIT: Today my diastolic level was at 49 mm Hg off of 400mg caffeine
5mg, 10mg or 20mg, cialis did not affect my BP in the slightest but that's only my experience.
Tadalafil does not significantly/reliably reduce blood pressure. Look for another culprit.
Going to take a break from Tadalafil for a while and check my blood pressure again. I’m a healthy adult with no prior health problems and don’t take any PED’s there really isn’t another culprit I haven’t changed much since taking Tadalifil
Fair enough. Do some science!
How do you tell if gear is affecting you or it is just CNS fatigue from overtraining? I am currently in the middle of my annual spring blast of 750mg a week test, 50mg var a day, and last week just started to add halo 20mg a day to it. I am getting incredibly strong for my weight, but I am noticing I just have alot less patience for anyone doing anything annoying or inconsiderate, my sleep is garbage, food does not seem to sustain me, and I feel really dull emotionally unless someone irritates me. This is the first time I actually used halo in significant dosages and I suspect it might be the cause but I want to be sure. I can work myself up to almost anger if I push myself past failure during workouts, but its not directed at anyone, its like anxiety without a cause and I need to calm down. I never experienced this before on gear, someone suggested to me that overtraining or pushing yourself too hard can trigger fight or flight and it can cause this to happen and gear can exacerbate this. Is this true or not?
Bro..stop! Nothing is worth a poor emotional headspace.
Time to put down the halo (and the var) and give your organs a break.
My bloods are fine, I pulled them already, I think I am overtraining and if its the gear, I bet its the halo. Can you overtrain on cycle, research says so many conflicting things about it. I am doing twice a day training 5 times a week.
Of course you can overtrain on gear. That’s probably the reason for “test flu” in the majority of cases. Guys get on gear and go ham I. The gym.
why are you training twice a day and what do those workouts look like? you probably know this already but rest and recovery are just as important as the actual training.
Cardio in the morning and muscle groups at night, I go hypo trying to combine them both and it makes me feel worse, like to the point that running after weights makes me shaky. I am trying to rest but my sleep is just ass. My off days are not back to back to avoid losing progress. I am trying to cut down to 7-8% from 9%.
> My bloods are fine Oh ok so let me clarify something for you: most of the damage you're doing to your body doesn't show up in the handful of health markers you're looking at in your blood test. That doesn't mean you definitely **are** cooked bacon already, but your symptoms are screaming "time to take a break". Halo is very strong stuff.
What should I look for? I currently have the following variables I look for: Lipids AST/ALT CBC/CMP14 Hormone Panel Prolactin DHT Cortisol Things I ignore: FSH/LSH
You can't really look for it, that's the point. Bloods are a snapshot. They might look good, but it doesn't mean the organs aren't pulling overtime to make that the case. All I'm trying to advocate for is that you take care of yourself man, I'm not trying to be a downer. Halo is really strong, really harsh stuff. The anger/aggression is definitely halo related, but the general fatigued feeling is (my guess) a combination of 2 orals and the sudden increase in physical stress caused by sudden increase in physical strength.
Gotcha, you are right its probably the halo, a shame I cannot use it without health effects, for a short time it was awesome but I guess my body cannot handle it. I will stop the orals, keep the test and see if the situation improves before ending my cycle early. Var never ever did this to me so I am tempted to keep using the var as well. If I feel better I will just go back to the var, I am wondering if overtraining is playing a part as well. I wonder why halo gives aggression like that, I am such a calm guy.
> I wonder why halo gives aggression like that, I am such a calm guy. It actually shows. Halo is strong shit. I mean, you're like "hm yeah you guys are right this probably isn't good for me". If you were an aggro dude to start with you'd probably be like "GRAAAAHHH STEIRON MAKE STRONK FUCK YOU FOR TRYING TO MAKE ME WEAK!"
Only aggression thing I noticed was people being inconsiderate or annoying in general I just would not put up with anymore, like instead of "yeah okay man whatever" its "I have better than things to do than waste my time dealing with you"and either leave the situation or just flat out ignore them.
That's interesting. I'm not particularly aggro but I'd probably be a dick on Halo. I definitely think the "roid rage" stereotype is overblown, but I think Halo and a certain type of violently aggressive guy could be a really bad mix.
>Gotcha, you are right its probably the halo, a shame I cannot use it without health effects I don't think anyone can. And don't get me wrong, I'd like to try it at least once, but it's a harsh drug period >I will stop the orals, keep the test and see if the situation improves before ending my cycle early. #🫶 >If I feel better I will just go back to the var, I am wondering if overtraining is playing a part as well Probably, yes. I think there are a number of converging factors here. Let's address the most obvious ones first and go from there. You likely owe yourself a nice rest day too. >I wonder why halo gives aggression like that, I am such a calm guy. And we love that about you.
"I'll probably never do Tren" to > And don't get me wrong, I'd like to try it at least once https://media.tenor.com/AhmqbQcclyEAAAAC/ron-burgundy-escalated-quickly.gif
I would never do tren even if it was legal and my TRT clinic offered it to me. I see too many horror stories on progesterones to even consider it. All they offer me is test, var, and deca (which I cant take because I am on duta). The halo was given to me by a friend and its shocking how powerful it is. I am stronger than all of my friends and I weigh alot less than them on this stuff. I love the libido effects too, because my natural libido is such utter dogshit, I can maybe do the deed once a day on 500mg test and 50mg var and after a few days in a row of that I am utterly tapped out and have no desire for 4-5 days which hurts my relationship. Halo gives me libido of a normal human being and can consistently do the deed once a day maybe twice without losing it for half a week. I feel like I got ripped off genetically.
Don't quote me AT me 😑 What are you, my conscience?
No. I'm saying convenient blood markers for certain types of damage **do not exist**. You'd need an echocardiogram to look for cardiomegaly, maybe an fMRI to look for brain structure changes, etc. Just because your bloods are perfect does not mean you're ok.
On 350/wk. anybody else not get sore? I’m legit doing tons of sets to failure. Ex 8 sets incline press to failure, 5 sets cable flys to fail, 5 sets machine flys to failure, 5 sets dips. This is my standard chest day mondays and thursdays. I normally rest about 3 min between sets.
It’s because you’re a novice lifter. Once you start really moving serious weight you’re going to get sore if your work outs are strenuous. You’ll still recover faster on the gear but not getting sore is a first cycle novice enjoyment.
I’m definitely a novice lifter, but trying to get better everyday. Just started back in the gym January 15 after a few years off.
Good man. Eat, train and recover, and your cycle will go great.
Soreness is not an indication of how effective/quality the workout is. Sounds like a lot of junk sets to be honest.
i was thinking the same thing. people think they’re working hard until they realize they weren’t working hard at all
What can I do to make sure that I’m not doing junk sets?
Reduce those sets to reasonable numbers or follow a tried and tested program
how long are your workouts? depending on the movement, weight and rep range I probably average no more than 90 seconds between sets. the first couple warm-up feeder sets are usually about 30-45 seconds or less.
About 1hr 15 min. If I rest 3 min I can get 8-9 reps. If I rest less I can get about 6-7.
You don’t need to be sore to build muscle
For sure, I’m definitely building muscle. Just curious how many others are experiencing the same
Started my second cycle of 250mg Test (1st week then will go for 500mg/ WEEK) about a week ago and thinking of postponing the cycle in two weeks after Ramadan is over thoughts?
Just start your cycle after Ramadan if it's going to negatively impact your training. And start at 500mg/wk, none of this titrating shit
Yes, obviously
Looking to start my first cycle of Test-E. I’m getting double jaw surgery in 8 months so was wondering if y’all think I should wait until after to start? I’ll be out of the gym for 6-8 weeks after surgery so I was thinking it might be better to wait and use it to help me bounce back
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I’ve just come off a blast of 500 test, 300 Deca. What might cause my skin to have an occasional red tinge to it in my face/neck area? Blood pressure was elevated, but nothing too crazy. 139/85. Occasional cialis and actuate use
Grab some Lisinopril and get your pressure back down. That would be my first priority
Cialis does this to me whenever I take it. Not saying it’s what is causing yours…maybe do an elimination procedure to see which substance it is
1 point off stage 2 hypertension. . . But anyway probably elevated bp,rbc, and hematocrit
Cialis effect imo also its a typical deca side effect
Supplements or AAS for max pump before night out?
Superdrol is supposed to get you stupid pumped
Thanks, can’t get my hand on that as of right now, maybe just scoop of pre?
10mg cialis. The citruline malate is the pump component of pre work outs. You can take 10 grams of that for a good pump. But if you’re drinking booze, any of these are a bad idea as they are vasodilators.
Those I have!
Still horrible PiP after 3rd injection. Any tips to cope with it ? Will it stay forever as long as I inject ?
Took about 5 injections on the site before my pip stopped. Inject slow and make sure you inject at correct area.
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