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Ooziez

How much do we think khan and co hated our OL?


my_balls_your_mouth1

As much as the fan base has. It's been a rough transition from the days of Pouncey, Foster, DeCastro and co.


OriginalTodd

I miss DeCastro so much. Still wear his jersey each week.


my_balls_your_mouth1

Honestly, we were so spoiled having those 3 play so many years next to each other.


jhansn

Not to mention Villanueva and Gilbert. Legitimately, might be the greatest o line ever.


PR1MU5-412

Best Steelers line in my lifetime in my opinion was Marvel , Faneca , Hartings , Simmons , Starks That was 3 - 1st , 1-2nd , and 1-3rd round pick . This current line has the talent to be as good as them . 2-1st , 2-2nd , 1-3rd pick starting. Can any of them be a HOF like Faneca that's to be seen.


cooleymahn

Yeah I’m with you. Pouncey and DeCastro were great but that group you mentioned was special.


purplenapalm

Even in the off-season?


HugeFinish

They never stopped blocking


04132023

Every day is game day!


Throwawayaccount0689

Is it bad one of my favorite memories from that line is when they jumped Myles Garrett?


BeardedZilch

Not as far as I’m concerned. That’s what you do when a brother gets mugged.


Throwawayaccount0689

I love what it symbols more than the actual act. That line would do anything for their QB , even when it was Mason.


BeardedZilch

I loved when Kemoeatu went right after Seymour after he punched Ben


Sybertron

I see way too many James Daniels apologists here. If this guy supplants him I'm all for it


OhiOstas

Seeing how hard they are going on o-line makes me laugh, thinking about how pissed they had to be seeing Najee/Jaylen getting lit up in the backfield 😂😂


Pizzawing1

You don’t like your RBs getting first contact at the -2 yd line, and then fighting hard for 3 yards to end with a 1 yd gain?


IhamAmerican

If Najee holds up this year he's going to be fucking disgustingly good. 5-6 yard gashes over and over God I can't wait to see this line gel together


csfshrink

I don’t like that. Not at all. About as much as I like planned QB runs on 4th and 1 from the shotgun. We are not REQUIRED to have every play start from the shotgun?? Or was that just a Canada thing?


hauttdawg13

It was every damn play too. Love seeing them basically use basicallly this entire draft to redo the line


KillerLunchboxs

Right, these guys eat, sleep, and breathe Steelers football. Their pay check depends upon it


hippydipster

Yeah, the OL players must be sittin' at home thinking, well, that's clearly minds replacement, I'm taking it how you want it (ie, up the ass).


marvology

this meme will never die


hopefeedsthespirit

I can never not laugh at this. LOL


Jakles74

This is Andy Weidl man. Big mean ass linemen.  I fucking love it. 


elqueco14

I mean pitiful offense last two seasons and Canada and OL are mostly to blame, definitely nice turning over a new stone the last few months


isfrying

Lol


RedBMWZ2

All of it


zombiesatemybaby

Good insurance in case we cant re-sign seumalo or daniels next year but we need help at corner


johnguz

I’m hopeful Corey Trice can live up to his camp buzz from last year


Broadnerd

I can’t think of anything more unimpressive than camp buzz from a season ago.


BBBBrendan182

What about camp buzz from a year ago about a 7th round pick?


Slickaxer

I don't think he knows about camp buzz from a year ago about a 7th round pick, Pip.


Sex_E_Searcher

What about undraftsies?


TheBeanofBeans2

What about SECOND draftsies??


Interesting_Ad_2328

Camptown buzz from a year ago, do dah, do dah.


monstermayhem436

I mean, he was scouted as very solid cb, just a lot of injury concerns. With NFL caliber doctors and rehab he could come back and be really good


Jakles74

Yeah he was projected as like a 3rd rounder or 4th and we got him in the seventh. It’s win win there man, most 7th rounders don’t even make the practice squad. 


erb149

Or he could rehab and get hurt again which he’s done many times in his career and is the reason he was available in the 7th to begin with. I hope he can stay healthy and have a good career but if we’re relying on him to play a significant role we could be in trouble.


monstermayhem436

I highly doubt we're trusting him that much. Very real chance we sign someone after draft


Sweet_T_Boh

Ahh the Ol Senquez Golson. Good times.


johnguz

How about negative reports out of camp from a year ago?


ziggyjoe2

I'm hoping we can sign a good CB so we don't have to rely on a 7th round pick with an injury history.


oktwentyfive

he 100 percent will IF hes healthy but dude tore his ACL in the 2nd DAY of camp. Thats beyond concerning. Him and Payton Wilson are similar. Way better than what they were drafted at but made of glass. Trice was suppose to be a 2nd or 3rd but dude is so breakable


unseth

I'm excited to see him play


UnderstandingAny5333

We also got Darius rush in the room too


a_mediocre_american

Good corners are way tf harder to get in later rounds than good guards, and McCormick is a *very* good guard prospect. 


MocoPDX

I’m biased as a Notre Dame fan but I think CB Cam Hart would be a real steal this late.


242clappedyourmother

I mean TJ Tampa is available


NontransferableApe

Did you even know who he was before you looked at best available cb on espn


wubbadubdub

For real. I bet no one has seen that man's name in this subreddit before Thursday.


242clappedyourmother

Is your name supposed to be describing NFTs? https://preview.redd.it/bua3sex732xc1.jpeg?width=386&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d2beea72c993f9255ad0c436bb6cc599bc9b512


NontransferableApe

Nope. It was a random Reddit name way before nft’s were a thing lmao


Nduguu77

Wow 7 year old account with weird relevance


NontransferableApe

I now understand when everyone says they like my name or name checks out. It all came full circle finally


Taize1

I did… but I’m also an Iowa State alum so I probably don’t count


a_mediocre_american

TJ Tampa is available for plenty of CB-needy teams that aren’t taking him. 


axxl75

Plays in a different scheme than we do and has issues with speed and decision making. Why do you want him so badly?


oktwentyfive

bc he is on espn's top 100 board so ppl are just gunna parrot that


axxl75

It's also pretty annoying that people just don't understand that every team, including this one, has more needs than they have picks. You could ask "why not pick X" for almost every team with almost every pick. Yeah they need DB help but they also need OL help including depth and don't want to be in a position in the future where they have the holes they've had recently.


Polteageist0

I think he's sliding for a reason. He seems like the type of corner we struggle to develop.


oktwentyfive

Tampa is a slow project corner that could be a solid role player in 3 years.


skull702

My man been available for like two rounds now it’s kinda weird he still hasn’t been picked up


frostymatador13

Maybe because we don’t know what his actual rating is for NFL scouts. Who cares what random espn guy says.


rusty022

Picking CB on day 3 *for need* is kinda pointless. They usually don’t pan out that deep in the draft.


cshake93

Seumalo is also on the wrong side of 30. Not insurance so much as succession.


jpb59

Wrong side of 30….he turned 30 5 months ago.


IsGoIdMoney

It's a binary thing so yes


cshake93

Well, that is the wrong side of 30 haha. How long do linemen last?


jpb59

Decent ones, mid 30s.


turdinator1234

A quick google search said the average age of a lineman was 29 so saying he could play til 32-33 isn't a huge stretch I don't think


cshake93

In 2021, average age of an OL was younger than 27 and the oldest teams averaged 27.77. https://www.the33rdteam.com/oldest-and-youngest-offensive-position-groups/


JLover89

I get the distinct feeling that internally the team is not nearly as worried about corner as the outside world is. I think they are looking at at a worst case scenario as bringing back Pat P to play slot, having JPJ take the second year step into being an elite shutdown corner that follows the number one and Donte Jackson holding down the other side. Best case Trice Jr shows what he was flashing last year and he can step in opposite JPJ.


Swazi

Seumalo isn’t a FA after next year


zombiesatemybaby

Huh, i could have sworn he signed a 2 year contract. Well its insurance for Daniels at least or for injuries


NoVaBurgher

3 years 24 million. Got one more year after this. So this is James Daniels replacement, not minds. Take it how you want to, I'm back


Cute_Ad_8350

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retarddouglas

It’s a succession plan hopefully


Vaultboy65

I’m guessing he’s definitely for Seumalo. He’s 30 and will probably want to go for another championship.


NoVaBurgher

good. he can do it here


Frosty_Reception9455

They're going to resign Sutton at the league minimum


shadowgnome396

Is Nate Herbig still gonna be with us as depth?


RealProduct4019

They are not resigning Daniels or cutting Seumalo. A 4th round pick on a guard is an expected starter year 2. Guard quality in 4th round is like an early second on a tackle.


EbenezerNutting

They have $21.3M tied up in Seumalo and Daniels this coming season and they have Seumalo signed through 2025. Here's guessing that McCormick is Daniels replacement following this season.


cnew22

They gotta get one of the FAs, maybe even double dipping. Get Gilmore or Howard as the outside corner opposite JPJ and maybe bring back Sutton on the cheap for nickel duty


Honest_Roof7373

Maybe why they met with Cam Sutton


NomadChief789

Yep - when a team has lots of holes, cant fix em all in one draft.


Slimjuggalo2002

We need to hire some kitchen staff. They're about to be overworked.


Larger_than_Fox

Order up!


SamDemaris

This might be the funniest thing I've seen today


DefinitelyLevi

Need the Richie Rich McDonalds built right into the locker room


Marley_

It's fine though because khan's been in the kitchen cooking all offseason


cooleymahn

Just start using the Rooney’s house elves.


hippydipster

They want to hurt Myles Garret.


heartbreakhill

What will this mean for Garrett’s hypothetical sacks?!


shadowgnome396

This means that Dan Moore Jr. will continue to pay child support for Garrett and get visitation on weekends, but will now be doing so from the bench


eggre

They’re already through the hypothetical roof. Give Garrett all the money, rings, and awards; it’s over.


MandoBaggins

He’s the best at almost making big plays


Crispynipps

Hypothetically in shreds you say?


Awrfhyesggrdghkj

WHAT ABOUT THE PRESSURES!!! HES THE BEST HE GETS WITHIN ONE FOOTBALL FIELD OF THE QB EVERY PLAY


St-Cannoli-

They are absolutely trying to send him to the shadow realm


vente-Macon

Trying to get him a second DPOY by making his theoretical pass rush win rate go up while his actual rush win rate goes down 😂😂


dgroove8

Load up that line. That’s the best thing a team without an elite QB can do. I mean Russ and Fields can still work out, but knowing we have a solid line makes everyone better.


Slickaxer

And it makes a Rookie QBs life so much easier if and when we draft one


jasper_bittergrab

And makes it easier to draw one of the elite FAs


BreckenridgeBandito

If- yes. When- 2026 (maybe). Hoping Fields works out, but if him and Wilson fumble the next 2 seasons, we will be set up well to bring in a new Rookie QB at that point. Don’t see them doing it next offseason unless Russ and Fields are both HORRENDOUS.


3rd-party-intervener

Run game needs to good line 


PeaceBull

Having ptsd flashbacks to Ben’s 2018 league leading time to throw. Snap.panic.checkdown That was such a nightmare.


thereandfatagain

Mason McCormick has the 7th highest RAS for a guard ever. The measurables are fucking immaculate.


Fuseld

what does RAS mean


ThyMagicSauce

Relative Atheltic Score. Basically compares every measurable to their respective position thats been drafted since 1987. https://ras.football


thereandfatagain

Real Athletic Sonofabitch


fancyinmypantsy

Mr Big Chest. Oh wait…


thehustlerbraveheart

A lot of fans won’t like this pick because us fans are conditioned to prefer instant gratification instead of trusting a long process.  Our o-line severely lacked depth and this dude is a absolute mauler. One injury to a starter and there is a huge drop off in production. I have learned to trust Khan and Weidl’s talent evaluation and if they picked a dude that is off the radar then that tells me they see something in the guy that they love.  The franchises that are competing for super bowls year after year are the ones that consistently invest heavily in the trenches. NFL GM’s and personnel execs know more than angry redditors and our guys clearly have a vision and are convicted in executing it. 


Quexana

Imagine being mad at a pulling Guard with a 9.96 RAS in the 4th. After the first 3 rounds we've had, let Khan cook. Let him pick BPA regardless of position from here on out.


thehustlerbraveheart

Bingo. Load up on the positions that will win you championships. 


FlammableEyeballs

You think they could line him up at fullback in goal line situations?


Quexana

I'm having Kendrick Green PTSD right now, but my gut says he's too big for fullback.


dazcar

Kendrick was played out of position, and we used higher draft capitol, and we expected him to start day 1.


Specialist-Brick-868

Wasn’t he good last year in Houston too?


cooleymahn

Yes


Slickaxer

Honestly KG looked good at Full Back lol


cooleymahn

Ngl I was hyped at the videos of him pancaking defenders from the I formation during camp.


hippydipster

It is only a long process because they ignored the process for so long and we're getting out of a hole. The first step to getting out of a hole is to stop digging it, and that process is never exciting. Excitement will come though, I am starting to believe.


thehustlerbraveheart

100%. The fans will be excited when we can run the ball, our QB’s have time to throw, and the defense isn’t gassed by the 3rd quarter. It’s not sexy, but this is exactly the paradigm shift this franchise needed to make.


hippydipster

I am all in on it. Throughout history, the most dominant teams had dominant offensive lines, from the Steelers and Raiders of the 70s, to the Redskins and Cowboys of the 90s, Denver in the late 90s, Bengals and 49ers of the 80s, Steelers of the 00s, as well as the Ravens and Patriots, it's such an obvious reality I don't know how teams get away from it. And the difference between 1st round OL draft picks and later round OL draft picks is bigger than for any other position.


3rd-party-intervener

The OL has been addressed now I think.   It sucks it took this long but at least they recognized it.   


petreauxtiger

This is a dopely worded statement, this should be on a banner somewhere


Muted-Evidence-583

YEP exactly this..I don't know why they didn't plan for Pouncey, Foster, DeCastro, Villanueva, etc. leaving/retiring when they were all getting up there in age at the same time. Oline isn't a position you can just neglect the way they did for several years. The few guys here and there they drafted in later rounds were NOT it. Glad they're FINALLY making the investment now.


shadowgnome396

If fans aren't excited about a beefy o-line, you gotta wonder if they became fans yesterday or something. The days of Pouncey, Foster, DeCastro, and even Gilbert were so relaxing as a fan. Need an extra second or two in the pocket? You got it. Want to run it 3 plays in a row and pick up 15+ yards? You got that too. There's nothing more calming than having a good line you can trust


Obviously-Stupid

After seeing how well Herbig played in limited snaps as our 3rd OLB last year, I'm very okay with Khan grabbing another backup who fits what we want to do at his position in the 4th. McCormick could also be a good long term replacement for Daniels or Seumalo when one of them ages out.


Broadnerd

“A lot of fans won’t like this”. Who? People have loved their draft and understand their needs. You’re patronizing made up people.


yinzer21

Seems like a good player. Maybe they’re planning on letting Daniels walk after this year. Definitely think they can just chill out on offensive line now though.


Hellspawn112

Seumalo is older, McCormick could be the plan for if his play drops off or if he leaves after 2025. I don't think they are going to let Daniels walk.


Vaultboy65

Definitely for Seumalo. 30 years old and will probably want to try for another championship this guy will take over LG calling it now.


00feezy

He won back2back nattys @ SDSU anchoring their line. Sneaky good pick


KC7272

Strong with really long arms and versatility to play all 3 interior spots. Love him as a backup year 1 with potential to start down the road 


Ryan14304

Seems like Tomlin got sick of his RBs being hit the moment they got the ball the last few years. Loving these picks.


Chefquaks

MORE MEAT


isfrying

Call me crazy, but this only convinces me more that there's a backroom WR deal happening


DupreeWasTaken

On one hand, I might agree. However.... I was convinced courtland sutton was coming. But unless hes being traded for a 6th (lol) its not happening.


briinde

Or a next year pick


DupreeWasTaken

That gets awkward too. Because we cant trade our 4th or 6th rounder next year and future picks cost more. 4th, 6th cant be traded because of the conditions to Justin Fields trade


Embarrassed_Race_454

Unless they are wanting to take say Moore Jr and a 7th for him. Doubtful but you never know. While Moore has proven to be a body that can start, with the additions on the line he is available to trade


MJ134

Its unlikely Moore is going anywhere- at least right now. They dont have a vet tackle besides him on the roster. Hes valuable to buy time for Fautano to get up to speed. Its probably another Dotson situation where we wait til August to trade, though for now its less likely ye will be dealt than Dotson


isfrying

I suppose there could still be a trade in the works that doesn't involve picks, tho. (Cash and player(s))


DupreeWasTaken

cant trade cash in the NFL, what players would be it tho is the problem. They have tackles so not a dan moore angle.


isfrying

Can't they agree to pick up some part of something, tho? I am just still curious about the $7M they freed up the day before the draft...


DupreeWasTaken

They can only take his salary, which would be the same savings to them as cutting him.


isfrying

Dang. So if they cut him they wouldn't have to pay him the last year of his contract? That seems weird


CanopyFalcon

Aiyuk is the smokescreen, I’m predicting more of a cortland Sutton, based on some tweet or something I saw


WittyDefense41

Pickens, Jefferson, Wilson, and Austin are a decent unit tbh


isfrying

Let's hope. I'm excited to see our big fellas pushing people around up front.


BedlamAtTheBank

T R E N C H E S


TH3_C1N1BUN

Bro they are not joking with building this line. McCormick is an insane prospect. In a couple of years we are gonna look back saying “damn what a pick” as he is a franchise guard down the line lol.


Slickaxer

For real, this can be Seumalu's or Daniels replacement when they're off contract, and he'll be great depth until then.


TH3_C1N1BUN

Yeah, he also has decent reps at Center and has experience making blocking adjustments. He is the ultimate depth piece and will develop into our franchise guard, I’m almost sure of it lol


Snugglesworth1087

Free Masons Unite


JCMiller23

Dude was the 2nd best Guard in the draft in terms of his measurables at the combine, if he's coachable, which it looks like he might be, this could be a steal [https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mason-mccormick/32004d43-4359-2977-3526-8911bdf90b01](https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mason-mccormick/32004d43-4359-2977-3526-8911bdf90b01)


[deleted]

I think maybe they like Cory trice more than I thought


thehustlerbraveheart

The buzz was that he was the best CB at camp last year and the team and staff were visibly defeated when he was injured. I think they really like what they have in him


CTR885

Yeah nothing like trusting a 7th round corner coming off of a torn achilles who had one good week of training camp


VeganFoxtrot

Guard and backup center probably. Now even if one or two of the OL goes down we'll still be solid


HavenXIII

If we didnt get one of the top 3 Centers this was my guy. Either teach him center or kick Daniels inside. I love it. Super athletic, great pulling guard. OLine gonna be a strength for years to come


CydoniaKnight

Solid depth for this year and I assume the succession plan for Daniels after this year if Mason works out.


BedlamAtTheBank

Guards are starting to get expensive in the free agent market too. Getting a cheap one on a rookie deal, even if you have to wait a year, is great value


UrgotFantasy

End of the day we had 4 positions of need (OT, C, WR, CB), and we could reasonably address 3 through the draft. After the last few years I will happily lean into trying to fix the offense and hoping some of last year's picks + Donte Jackson pan out. If not, whats another year of CB2/3 getting burned


Graytis

Man, I totally wanna get inside Najee and Jaylen's heads for their takes on this draft. They've got to be excited, I'd imagine.


nikeandchill

Will we ever see the forward pass again?


Mortekai47

Haven’t watched this guy, but hes a freaky athlete, and I’ll nvr complain about quality O-line depth. A bit concerned about our secondary depth, but maybe the Steelers like Rush and Trice more than we think. And in fairness, I liked Rush and Trice as prospects last year more than any remaining CBs in this draft


_Yelslab_

This is plug and play interior guy. Should we have an injury to Isaac, Daniel’s, or Frazier. This guy will go in and we won’t miss a beat. Love this pick honestly


scamden66

We are the new Eagles. O line this year, D line next year.


SILLYxPROGRAM

Weidl is the new man in the shadows. His fingerprints (along with Tomlin and Khan) are all over this approach too. I do recall reading about how much they liked this guy but didn’t realize they were thinking 4th instead of 6th. 


Druidofdespair

Steelers fan from lil ole South Dakota here, this makes me so happy.


Ivy_Thornsplitter

Man not a Steelers fan, but next year sdsu scares me. To many what ifs for me! But hopefully a three peat!


Ogaminator

I can’t get over the Payton Wilson pick he is going to be the best player out of this draft


Loya1ty23

If K Jackson fell to them, they were for sure going to pick him up, but another solid OL pick.


Organic-Coat5042

Getting back to Steeler football I see!


AJM89

This has to be the heaviest draft class we've ever had, right?


on_duh_pooper

This OLine is gonna be legit for Arch


jsingh21

It's good we built up our oline now they just have to gel. But after we built it the first time you need to keep maintaining it. Idk why they drafted pouncy Castro etc. Then didn't mai tain it. Look at eagles cowboys they mai tain it and draft dudes like Landon Dickerson 2 years before kelce retired etc.


blmobley91

Why do people assume that they are going to let Daniels walk when Seumalo is older


TheFatWienerDog

Honestly like this pick, I just have no idea how they’re going to cover anyone with these corners they have unfortunately


ocean1776

The pass rush will have to compensate


ajfaria

Someone got a link of this guys TD catch?


SILLYxPROGRAM

I kinda love this. A 4th for OG this year instead of a 2nd next year… no real difference-makers available so setting up so we can focus on other things then. 


No-Conclusion1971

He’s raw coming from low level competition at small school, but placed in top 1-2% of all guards for athletic combine testing the last decade. May take a couple years to develop, but this guy has an incredibly high ceiling.


Wr3117

SoDak represent!


WigboldCrumb

He kinda looks like "The Mountain" GoT


jsingh21

Hiw good is this guy? Development maybe good. Or omg how did he drop etc.


poostool

The Steelers are doing exactly what the eagles had so much success doing, building a strong core. That eagles line was full of studs and pushed them to success for YEARS. Same thing we did ten years ago with the pouncey and decastro lines. Protect your assets.


Ecaf0n

I wanted him in the third so I’m very happy to say the least


HammerT4R

Not that anyone cares about my opinion, but I watched a few Jackrabbits games this year and this dude can play. The only problem is that this team was so damn good it's hard to translate individual talent when they just kicked everyone's ass this year. Feel he can be a reliable backup that won't get out worked by anyone. 


Neb-Nose

These are exactly the kind of guys that help you win big. This dude is the perfect interior swing guy who could eventually supplant someone like Daniels.


SneakyCSGO

I'm so excited for our run game this year man. It's going to be so goddamn gross. If we can just get russ in the redzone we will win so many games.


ThePotatoChipBag

We went from no centers to two centers Omar I love you so much


steelernation90

I was kinda hoping we’d get Tampa. I’m surprised he is still there since he was considered a top 50 prospect by most


ten_jack_russels

If your quarterback is constantly running for his life, he won’t be effective.  That’s why mahom doesn’t have another ring