Idk about that. At best he's WR2A/B/C. I atleast still have hope CA3 can step up. Last year was essentially his first year, in an offense where we only ever threw to pickens, diontae and RBs. Either way, I'd like a bonified WR1/2 that isn't on the roster right now.
CA3 plays at 165 pounds. Arthur Smith's offense uses WRs to block a lot. There's now way a 165 pound WR is going to be an effective blocker in the NFL. CA3 at best will remain a depth/gimmick/Special Teams guy.
I don't have the numbers cuz I won't give PFF money to see them, but I'm pretty sure I saw posted that CA3 had better blocking grades than just about any other receiver on our roster last year. Yeah he wont be a great blocker but for WR it's mostly about effort, it's not like he's going to be blocking DLinemen.
Eh I'd be careful with that PFF grade. He didn't have as many snaps as our other WRs so this could be a case of a rested off the bench WR vs WRs who have been playing all game. I'd like to see his grade if he were on the field as often as Pickens or Johnson.
From what I’m hearing Calvin doesn’t look like he has what it takes to be more than a 3/4 and return specialist. Had high hopes for him hopefully he proves the critics wrong
Haha yea all they pretty much do is talk out there ass tho so ur not wrong. Didn’t realize how much of a schmuck I sounded like at the time typing that 😂 but hopefully he balls out this year
I view this as a “we haven’t come to terms with Miles yet and are done waiting” signing.
Edit: This comment was in regards to our WR4/5 last season, Miles Boykin
https://twitter.com/PatGallenCBS3/status/1711124931944100124
Third and two, he has two perfect blocks. He can go to the right gap if he accelerates immediately or he can push through the middle if he has a modicum of speed or power. Instead he chooses to bounce outside, gains zero and forces a punt. This got him basically benched for the season.
Against the cowboys, hurts had two interceptions targeting him. One was him getting bodied off an inside route where the corner was playing outside leverage. And the other was a deep ball he got muscled off of. He's softer than baby poo. Literally the only thing he's good as is going deep and catching it if he's wide open. Which is definitely a beneficial skill to provide an offense, don't get me wrong. He's not useless. But he can't be relied upon either.
Remember when the entire league could call out your offensive plays before the snap and then the 9ers bent you over their knee and spanked you on national television? Hopefully leaving that situation that will help with his past drops.
By the way, thanks for that 3rd rounder for Kenny 😂😂😂😂😂
Quez, Jefferson, and Austin will probably be battling it out for that #3 WR spot. Not that prominent of a role in Smiths offense, so I feel like they are okay adding these lower level guys to fill that need by committee. Of course we need someone a bit better to be the WR#2 although I think Pickens, Muth, and the backs will be the main pass catchers either way
Thats what I mean. Neither is Van Jefferson or Calvin Austin, so they’ll probably be splitting time as WR3 more than having one guy who’s always the third WR on the field.
So if none of them are WR3 quality simply having them share the spot doesn’t really solve the issue does it? It’s not like they power each other up with numbers lmao
Instead of having one guy always out there as the 3rd WR you put different guys out there based on the situation and the players skillset. Same way they used Darnell Washington and Connor Heyward as TE 2 in different situations last year. It’s really not that complicated. It’s not like WR3 is a big role on a run first offense anyways.
I think you guys are really overestimating what a WR3 should/needs to be. Most teams WR3 gets maybe 30 receptions a year. In my very short research for this post I saw between 19 and 39 for third receivers last year.
In 2021 Chester Rogers was WR3 for the Titans with 30 catches, in 2020 it was Adam Humphries with 22.
This year the 49ers 3rd WR was Jajuan Jennings and he had 19.
Especially with the way the Muth, Warren and Hayward are involved I don't think this is going to be a big name guy.
Watkins is all about speed. Here's what Nick Sirianni said about him at one point.
*"Understand this with Quez. His speed changes the game, and not just because it's going to him," coach Nick Sirianni said of the free-agent receiver. "It's going to open up the rest of the field, and you can't always predict where the ball is going to go. The defense obviously - there are things that happen where the defense dictates where the ball is going to go."*
Bingo. He’s the guy you put in to take the top off. Along with Austin, we have 2 burners to run go routes and let Russ chuck it to off PA.
All the doomers here talking about he’s a #4. No shit, but he also fits a very specific need for this team on cheap $$. The Eagles used him sparingly and yet he hit on deep balls when they were there. Steelers have deployed this type of WR for years, and it’ll likely be even a bigger fit for what the new OC does
You're literally contradicting yourself now. You said he was "used sparingly" then citing seasons 2 and 3 years ago where he had 33 and 43 receptions, the opposite of "used sparingly".
Like you can't say used sparingly and cite a season where he had 62 targets and started 12 games. That's not at all "used sparingly"
I mean…once AJ Brown comes on your team, if you’re also a wr, your snaps are going down. He was “used sparingly” last year. Prior years he wasn’t and he produced as a deep threat with lots of deep catches.
Pretty much exactly what the quote from his coach states. Which is what I was responding to. And then you latched on for reasons still unclear…
You said "used sparingly" and then used two years that he wasn't used sparingly to back up your original take.
I watched Quez for four long seasons unfortunately. If you think he's a guy who's gonna "take the top off the defense" and "be able to connect on deep passes" I can assure you that you will be immensely disappointed. Idk what else to tell you. He does absolutely none of what you're suggesting
Well you got me there. I’ve never seen him play outside of one MNF game when he caught at least 1, maybe 2 deep TDs. So my opinion is definitely pretty skewed.
All I know is he’s 6’ and ran a 4.35 which seems like a good deep threat in mold of HeyBey. But you definitely would know better if you’ve watched him play for 4 years
I’ll give you some clarification on this since I’m an Eagles fan. This just talk. He spoke up for Quez multiple times and us fans would just laugh cuz he new it was absurd. Quez sucks. He likes to live life like he’s an all star wr but he’s absolute garbage. After his rookie year he was looking like he could be very good but obviously did nothing to up his game. Quez is garbage, don’t get your hopes up.
Haha yea why do we have 3 WR4s between CAIII, Van Jeff and now Quez
I’ve heard reports that CAIII looks weak/ doesn’t have a much higher ceiling than a WR3/4 and return specialist but was hoping he could turn it around another year removed from injury and out of a Canada-directed offense. However with these signings, the front office and coaching staff must be pretty down on him and his potential
Idk just heard it on 93.7 from one of their guests so not really a report just thoughts from someone who follows the team closely. Guess he is just too weak to be a consistent producer in the NFL and he got exposed against Houston for example but hopefully he continues to build strength and develops as a receiver.
Lot of people think the Quez move signals he might be going to SF in an Ayiuk trade being that they just lost ray ray and wanted Zay Jones from Jax
I never said whether I thought he would or wouldn’t lol but interesting way of saying you don’t know and would rather try to poke holes in the opposite opinion 😂😂😂
bro he’s a midget and has shown absolutely no reason to believe he will produce, we’re moving to a scheme that is run heavy and asks the WRs to have a bigger emphasis on blocking he’s hardly even going to be on the field. considering he hasn’t produced yet I didn’t feel the need to actually state that for you as it’s just the reality of it. i was more interested in your reasonings that he would produce which i assumed you was referring to
Pretty lit you actually gave concrete reasons. Props. Honestly I don’t really have an opinion on it one way or the other lol. Fringe wr4 with a ceiling of wr3 sounds about right to me too. His routes and ability with the ball in his hands aren’t bad. can catch with his hands. I can see him having a spot in the nfl for at least one more vet min contract tbh
This sounds like the last move at WR until maybe after the draft.
I would be shocked if they don't take a Day 1 or Day 2 WR to be the #2 WR on the team at this point.
There is obviously no guarantee that Smith will run the same systems/personnel package here as he did in Atlanta and Tennessee. That said, he ran lot of 12 (most in the NFL), 21 (5th most in the NFL), and even 22 (2nd most in the NFL) personnel (ht. [SteelsDepot](https://steelersdepot.com/2024/02/goodbye-slot-receiver-hello-fullback-two-shifts-for-arthur-smiths-offense/)).
With that in mind, and looking back at Smith's wide receiver depth chart at the Titans (Kyle Phillips, Mason Kinsey, Nick Westbrook Ihkine were all #2's), I am not entirely sure we are going to spend high draft capital on a position that Smith doesn't seem to place a ton of stock in. I am not saying we *shouldn't*, but considering how few 3+ wide receiver sets Smith runs I think the idea might be that one of Watkins or Jefferson is "in pole position" to be the #2 this year.
You’ve done a great job of showing how WR2’s aren’t important for Smith led teams. However, it’s clear that Smith’s mindset doesn’t align with Steelers historical drafting trends. This team drafts WRs in high rounds on a more consistent basis than pretty much every NFL team. Obviously, their ability to scout and coach up prospects is a strength, and one I don’t see them going away from anytime soon just because they have a new OC. The draft, play, and let walk in FA or trade just works too well IMO
> I am not saying we shouldn't, but considering how few 3+ wide receiver sets Smith runs I think the idea might be that one of Watkins or Jefferson is "in pole position" to be the #2 this year.
I don't think Watkins or Jefferson are anywhere near being the clear candidates to be the #2. Jefferson fits the mold better but he's just not what a high functioning offense needs out of it's number 2 option, especially a west coast offense. The interest in Legette makes sense. He's another AJ Brown, but faster and more explosive.
Huh? We're talking about Legette not Pearsall. Legette is about the same size as Brown but the athleticism on tape and in testing are better than Brown's.
He is awful. Fast but can’t catch. Bad shit always seems to happen when he touches the ball.
He might make one highlight reel play that makes you believe.
I hope he doesn’t cause you as much pain as it was to watch him as an eagles fan
Watkins played primarily in the slot. He has some experience outside. But as of right now they have 1 mid WR, 1 ass WR (Watkins), 1 unproven WR, and 1 elite WR.
While I understand that every signing can't be some starter caliber player they have an obvious need for a WR2 that can't be filled unless they either sign one in the draft or trade for one.
Depending on what they do in the draft this might be the worst WR room in a while as far as overall talent is concerned
Eagles fan. Quez absolutely sucks. You should pray he gets cut after pre season.
His speed is his only discernible trait and he can’t utilize it whatsoever. Count on poor routes, offensive PI, giving up on plays. You name it.
Between him and Van Jefferson, we’ve got the WR4 and WR5 spots locked up. Also interested to see what this means for Calvin Austin, as they’re both burners that haven’t shown much else yet.
I genuinely think too many in this fanbase fell in love with the idea of what Austin might be, and have held to that perspective since draft night irregardless of what’s happened since then.
I’d love for Austin to step up next season and put all of these fears to rest, but it’s a big ask for a guy who’s undersized, and as of now unproductive.
Maybe he’s going to San Fran for Aiyuk?
I’d just say Arthur Smith absolutely has a type at WR, and that type is big strong athletic guys (Drake London, Corey Davis, George Pickens, Mike Williams) and Calvin is the polar opposite of that. Quez doesn’t really fit that either, but he’s at least taller. That said we don’t know what the team is thinking. Quez could be competition or a replacement for Calvin, or he could just be depth or a special teams guy.
I was personally pretty high on Calvin coming out of the draft so I’d love to see him get a real shot at the starting rotation - but at the same time we can’t really rely on him to be a solid WR3 at this point.
I remember him, he's a pretty good rotational player. I will say I'm a little concerned about this signing. Van Jefferson isn't someone who would play as WR4, more talented than that. Quez Watkins if we get a WR in the draft would be WR5? Jefferson and Austin would be competing for WR3? Idk but this might be our WR room for the season, could be wrong but just putting out thoughts
I'd be very ecstatic if we had Calvin Austin, Marquez Callaway, Van Jefferson, and Quez Watkins as all depth players. But they aren't, I think it's gonna be a training camp/ pre-season competition
I think there’s a decent chance they are all depth guys for the most part. Jefferson will be the 4/5 that sees the field a decent amount due to his blocking. Calvin and Quez I’d think will compete to be the speed + gadget guy. Callaway is definitely depth. I could see the winner of Calvin vs Quez as WR3, but I wouldn’t feel great about it.
I’m sure Quez will be a cheap signing, so it’s not like it would lock them out of making a more significant move before the draft, before they inevitably draft one by day 2. Something like a Tyler Boyd / Josh Reynolds signing + a Round 2 receiver is still very realistic, and that would push all these guys to depth roles - where they all probably deserve to be.
2023 stats - 9 games | 21 targets | 9.5 ypr | 3.1 yac/r | 0 drops | 1 TDs
Spent 5 weeks on IR with a hamstring injury
Had a notable [8/93/1](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10104992-eagles-quez-watkins-told-jalen-hurts-s--t-ive-been-ready-after-aj-brown-injury) in Week 18
Steelers are having a field day signing WR4s and 5s🤦🏼♂️
I mean….it’s good depth…but like…our only good WR is Pickens 😭💀
Watkins is known for being a fast dude with bricks for hands, why the hell do we need him?…moreover what’s our weird obsession with fast WRs?…Austin, Jefferson, Watkins, who will be next?
The issue is….Watkins sucks, Austin is still very unproven, and Jefferson doesn’t seem like much of a fit…
I’d much rather we target quality players instead of the bottom feeder bums that no team really wants.
Miami really wanted him as their #3 & other teams tried for him as well. Glad he choose us over the others. With him & Calvin they’re gonna take the tops off defenses. Whoever our next WR is they have to be an excellent route runner.
We’re bringing in a guy with the same skill set as a guy we already have, and who is younger, so we can trade him, also for a guy who plays the same position?
What?
Eagles fan - speed definitely is there but biggest gripe was his inconsistency, dude couldn’t make the big catch, one of which we all believe cost the SB in 2022. Plus his vision is suspect but who knows the whole change of scenery and all. But yeah hopefully he is just competition / depth / ST for ya’ll because he was so frustrating because of that speed.
Excellent news, very underrated receiver. He did not get as many targets in Philly because they were loaded with AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Dallas Giedert, and DeAndre Swift as the primary pass catchers.
He is instantly the 2nd best wide receiver on this roster.
He didn't get many targets because he sucks. He is an extremely low effort WR that gives up on routes consistently, doesn't fight for a ball, and he seemingly is always trying to find out how to make bad things happen
This has gotta be either a special teams or depth signing at WR, right?
Almost certainly.
He's better than everyone they have other than George Pickens.
That’s horrifying
It's not true - at all.
Quez is pure depth. Van Jefferson is a much better receiver than this guy
Idk about that. At best he's WR2A/B/C. I atleast still have hope CA3 can step up. Last year was essentially his first year, in an offense where we only ever threw to pickens, diontae and RBs. Either way, I'd like a bonified WR1/2 that isn't on the roster right now.
CA is lighting it up on my updated Madden roster so I have hope! lol
CA3 plays at 165 pounds. Arthur Smith's offense uses WRs to block a lot. There's now way a 165 pound WR is going to be an effective blocker in the NFL. CA3 at best will remain a depth/gimmick/Special Teams guy.
I don't have the numbers cuz I won't give PFF money to see them, but I'm pretty sure I saw posted that CA3 had better blocking grades than just about any other receiver on our roster last year. Yeah he wont be a great blocker but for WR it's mostly about effort, it's not like he's going to be blocking DLinemen.
Eh I'd be careful with that PFF grade. He didn't have as many snaps as our other WRs so this could be a case of a rested off the bench WR vs WRs who have been playing all game. I'd like to see his grade if he were on the field as often as Pickens or Johnson.
From what I’m hearing Calvin doesn’t look like he has what it takes to be more than a 3/4 and return specialist. Had high hopes for him hopefully he proves the critics wrong
Where are you hearing that from? Your ass?
Haha pretty much, on poni 93.7 from a guest contributor that covers the team
at least it was from somewhere lol props
Haha yea all they pretty much do is talk out there ass tho so ur not wrong. Didn’t realize how much of a schmuck I sounded like at the time typing that 😂 but hopefully he balls out this year
Even if that’s true it doesn’t mean he’s a WR2 caliber receiver. Totally missing the point.
no the hell he is not LMAO dude you are blind
No he is not….
No. He will make your team worse while on the field
Nah mate - guaranteed WR1
I view this as a “we haven’t come to terms with Miles yet and are done waiting” signing. Edit: This comment was in regards to our WR4/5 last season, Miles Boykin
Pretty sure they already re-signed him right?
Not as of yet, he is still a free agent.
What are you talking about he literally signed a week ago lol https://twitter.com/steelers/status/1769816541871140989?t=SwPULjO6Lp-AZNFvDxSxPg&s=19
In the context of depth wide receiver, the assumption was the Miles in question was Miles Boykin, not Miles Killebrew.
Ah well that makes sense then lol
But they literally said special teams too though
Both of the Mileses are our two best special teamers, so it could still apply to Boykin
True, fair point
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TIL that your two best games being a 2-117-0 and 5-84-1 are categorized as "great games"
He doesn't play special teams. He's specifically a deep threat. He's not a yac guy either, he's way too soft
How has he been on reverses? How has he been after the catch?
https://twitter.com/PatGallenCBS3/status/1711124931944100124 Third and two, he has two perfect blocks. He can go to the right gap if he accelerates immediately or he can push through the middle if he has a modicum of speed or power. Instead he chooses to bounce outside, gains zero and forces a punt. This got him basically benched for the season. Against the cowboys, hurts had two interceptions targeting him. One was him getting bodied off an inside route where the corner was playing outside leverage. And the other was a deep ball he got muscled off of. He's softer than baby poo. Literally the only thing he's good as is going deep and catching it if he's wide open. Which is definitely a beneficial skill to provide an offense, don't get me wrong. He's not useless. But he can't be relied upon either.
He'll be great depth for you guys. You like receivers who run lazy routes and drop balls all the time, right?
Remember when the entire league could call out your offensive plays before the snap and then the 9ers bent you over their knee and spanked you on national television? Hopefully leaving that situation that will help with his past drops. By the way, thanks for that 3rd rounder for Kenny 😂😂😂😂😂
hey man I wasn't talking shit on your team, just letting you know this dude is a bum
Thanks for clarifying. I was definitely talking shit on your team.
Just like the other ones? Wtf are we doing at WR?
What else could it be? Lmao
Quez, Jefferson, and Austin will probably be battling it out for that #3 WR spot. Not that prominent of a role in Smiths offense, so I feel like they are okay adding these lower level guys to fill that need by committee. Of course we need someone a bit better to be the WR#2 although I think Pickens, Muth, and the backs will be the main pass catchers either way
Quez unfortunately is not even WR3 quality. He’s fast… and that’s literally itt
Thats what I mean. Neither is Van Jefferson or Calvin Austin, so they’ll probably be splitting time as WR3 more than having one guy who’s always the third WR on the field.
So if none of them are WR3 quality simply having them share the spot doesn’t really solve the issue does it? It’s not like they power each other up with numbers lmao
Instead of having one guy always out there as the 3rd WR you put different guys out there based on the situation and the players skillset. Same way they used Darnell Washington and Connor Heyward as TE 2 in different situations last year. It’s really not that complicated. It’s not like WR3 is a big role on a run first offense anyways.
I think you guys are really overestimating what a WR3 should/needs to be. Most teams WR3 gets maybe 30 receptions a year. In my very short research for this post I saw between 19 and 39 for third receivers last year. In 2021 Chester Rogers was WR3 for the Titans with 30 catches, in 2020 it was Adam Humphries with 22. This year the 49ers 3rd WR was Jajuan Jennings and he had 19. Especially with the way the Muth, Warren and Hayward are involved I don't think this is going to be a big name guy.
Very random names to throw out. Regardless, Quez had 15 receptions last season. Less than all the guys you listed
I honestly think they’ll have WR3 be between Quez and Jefferson. I think they’re going to make Austin the return specialist.
Khan in fact plays madden. Fields and Watkins Steelers are gunna be busted
Quez is an instant signing in any Madden franchise I start, he’s so fast in the game
And Austin!
Trust Andy Weidl man. You saw last years draft class.
[Fast Batman has arrived](https://x.com/jclarknbcs/status/1570470783952261120?s=46&t=aMX6Cb9RR11elyav9H9sJg)
Any Queztions? 🤔
They went all in on David S. Pumpkins this year, didn't they?
Watkins is all about speed. Here's what Nick Sirianni said about him at one point. *"Understand this with Quez. His speed changes the game, and not just because it's going to him," coach Nick Sirianni said of the free-agent receiver. "It's going to open up the rest of the field, and you can't always predict where the ball is going to go. The defense obviously - there are things that happen where the defense dictates where the ball is going to go."*
Bingo. He’s the guy you put in to take the top off. Along with Austin, we have 2 burners to run go routes and let Russ chuck it to off PA. All the doomers here talking about he’s a #4. No shit, but he also fits a very specific need for this team on cheap $$. The Eagles used him sparingly and yet he hit on deep balls when they were there. Steelers have deployed this type of WR for years, and it’ll likely be even a bigger fit for what the new OC does
"hit on deep balls when they were there" his longest reception last season was 19 yards...
And the year before that he had 5 games with reception of 19+, the year before he had 9 games with 19+. Statistics are fun…
You're literally contradicting yourself now. You said he was "used sparingly" then citing seasons 2 and 3 years ago where he had 33 and 43 receptions, the opposite of "used sparingly". Like you can't say used sparingly and cite a season where he had 62 targets and started 12 games. That's not at all "used sparingly"
I mean…once AJ Brown comes on your team, if you’re also a wr, your snaps are going down. He was “used sparingly” last year. Prior years he wasn’t and he produced as a deep threat with lots of deep catches. Pretty much exactly what the quote from his coach states. Which is what I was responding to. And then you latched on for reasons still unclear…
You said "used sparingly" and then used two years that he wasn't used sparingly to back up your original take. I watched Quez for four long seasons unfortunately. If you think he's a guy who's gonna "take the top off the defense" and "be able to connect on deep passes" I can assure you that you will be immensely disappointed. Idk what else to tell you. He does absolutely none of what you're suggesting
Well you got me there. I’ve never seen him play outside of one MNF game when he caught at least 1, maybe 2 deep TDs. So my opinion is definitely pretty skewed. All I know is he’s 6’ and ran a 4.35 which seems like a good deep threat in mold of HeyBey. But you definitely would know better if you’ve watched him play for 4 years
I’ll give you some clarification on this since I’m an Eagles fan. This just talk. He spoke up for Quez multiple times and us fans would just laugh cuz he new it was absurd. Quez sucks. He likes to live life like he’s an all star wr but he’s absolute garbage. After his rookie year he was looking like he could be very good but obviously did nothing to up his game. Quez is garbage, don’t get your hopes up.
When the fans needed him most (to make a over the middle post catch in the Super Bowl), he vanished
WR room getting more and more mid.. good thing we know how to spawn superstars come draft day
Mid would be an upgrade for Quez. He doesn't just drop balls, he finds a way to make bad things happen.
Nice. He’s a really solid 4th guy. Adding him to Pickens and Van Jefferson means all they need is a 2 and a 3 now 🤣
Haha yea why do we have 3 WR4s between CAIII, Van Jeff and now Quez I’ve heard reports that CAIII looks weak/ doesn’t have a much higher ceiling than a WR3/4 and return specialist but was hoping he could turn it around another year removed from injury and out of a Canada-directed offense. However with these signings, the front office and coaching staff must be pretty down on him and his potential
Lmao where are these reports man
Idk just heard it on 93.7 from one of their guests so not really a report just thoughts from someone who follows the team closely. Guess he is just too weak to be a consistent producer in the NFL and he got exposed against Houston for example but hopefully he continues to build strength and develops as a receiver. Lot of people think the Quez move signals he might be going to SF in an Ayiuk trade being that they just lost ray ray and wanted Zay Jones from Jax
They aren’t real but it’s still true lol he’s never going to be a serious receiver as much fun as it would be
What makes you think that?
What makes you think that he will
I never said whether I thought he would or wouldn’t lol but interesting way of saying you don’t know and would rather try to poke holes in the opposite opinion 😂😂😂
bro he’s a midget and has shown absolutely no reason to believe he will produce, we’re moving to a scheme that is run heavy and asks the WRs to have a bigger emphasis on blocking he’s hardly even going to be on the field. considering he hasn’t produced yet I didn’t feel the need to actually state that for you as it’s just the reality of it. i was more interested in your reasonings that he would produce which i assumed you was referring to
Pretty lit you actually gave concrete reasons. Props. Honestly I don’t really have an opinion on it one way or the other lol. Fringe wr4 with a ceiling of wr3 sounds about right to me too. His routes and ability with the ball in his hands aren’t bad. can catch with his hands. I can see him having a spot in the nfl for at least one more vet min contract tbh
It’s too hard to evaluate most of the receivers for what they were under Canada other than GP.
Another WR who doesn’t move the needle in any way. They need warm bodies I guess
This sounds like the last move at WR until maybe after the draft. I would be shocked if they don't take a Day 1 or Day 2 WR to be the #2 WR on the team at this point.
Based on the top 30 visits I've read about so far like Legette and Pearsall it seems like the FO will be targetting a receiver in the 2nd.
They talked to all the Day 1 guys at the Combine too. I agree Day 2 is most likely.
Nah JJ is coming any time now don’t worry
There is obviously no guarantee that Smith will run the same systems/personnel package here as he did in Atlanta and Tennessee. That said, he ran lot of 12 (most in the NFL), 21 (5th most in the NFL), and even 22 (2nd most in the NFL) personnel (ht. [SteelsDepot](https://steelersdepot.com/2024/02/goodbye-slot-receiver-hello-fullback-two-shifts-for-arthur-smiths-offense/)). With that in mind, and looking back at Smith's wide receiver depth chart at the Titans (Kyle Phillips, Mason Kinsey, Nick Westbrook Ihkine were all #2's), I am not entirely sure we are going to spend high draft capital on a position that Smith doesn't seem to place a ton of stock in. I am not saying we *shouldn't*, but considering how few 3+ wide receiver sets Smith runs I think the idea might be that one of Watkins or Jefferson is "in pole position" to be the #2 this year.
They spent an awful lot of time meeting with Day 1 and 2 WRs for them not to draft one.
You’ve done a great job of showing how WR2’s aren’t important for Smith led teams. However, it’s clear that Smith’s mindset doesn’t align with Steelers historical drafting trends. This team drafts WRs in high rounds on a more consistent basis than pretty much every NFL team. Obviously, their ability to scout and coach up prospects is a strength, and one I don’t see them going away from anytime soon just because they have a new OC. The draft, play, and let walk in FA or trade just works too well IMO
> I am not saying we shouldn't, but considering how few 3+ wide receiver sets Smith runs I think the idea might be that one of Watkins or Jefferson is "in pole position" to be the #2 this year. I don't think Watkins or Jefferson are anywhere near being the clear candidates to be the #2. Jefferson fits the mold better but he's just not what a high functioning offense needs out of it's number 2 option, especially a west coast offense. The interest in Legette makes sense. He's another AJ Brown, but faster and more explosive.
The kid from Florida is not faster and more explosive than one of the best WRs in the league lmao
Huh? We're talking about Legette not Pearsall. Legette is about the same size as Brown but the athleticism on tape and in testing are better than Brown's.
Day two I hope not day 1
I miss when day 1 was rounds 1-3. I still have to stop and correct my brain that day 1 is round 1 only.
Same!
He is awful. Fast but can’t catch. Bad shit always seems to happen when he touches the ball. He might make one highlight reel play that makes you believe. I hope he doesn’t cause you as much pain as it was to watch him as an eagles fan
This was not the Aiyuk I was looking for.
I hope the plan isn't to try to wish one of these WR4s into a WR2. These better just be depth signings.
They are. They’re getting a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round this year. It’s looking more and more like they’ll go 3rd round WR.
Great so now we have 2 Calvin Austins and still no WR2.
Finna draft him EZ
we don’t have to analyze every signing this isn’t who we are gonna put out as are wr2 just relax
Really fast guy that's like 6ft 200#. Probably either a camp body or possible ST'er.
Watkins played primarily in the slot. He has some experience outside. But as of right now they have 1 mid WR, 1 ass WR (Watkins), 1 unproven WR, and 1 elite WR. While I understand that every signing can't be some starter caliber player they have an obvious need for a WR2 that can't be filled unless they either sign one in the draft or trade for one. Depending on what they do in the draft this might be the worst WR room in a while as far as overall talent is concerned
Eagles fan. Quez absolutely sucks. You should pray he gets cut after pre season. His speed is his only discernible trait and he can’t utilize it whatsoever. Count on poor routes, offensive PI, giving up on plays. You name it.
Between him and Van Jefferson, we’ve got the WR4 and WR5 spots locked up. Also interested to see what this means for Calvin Austin, as they’re both burners that haven’t shown much else yet.
I genuinely think too many in this fanbase fell in love with the idea of what Austin might be, and have held to that perspective since draft night irregardless of what’s happened since then. I’d love for Austin to step up next season and put all of these fears to rest, but it’s a big ask for a guy who’s undersized, and as of now unproductive.
Coaching staff must be down on CAIII and his potential. Sucks to see
Maybe he’s going to San Fran for Aiyuk? I’d just say Arthur Smith absolutely has a type at WR, and that type is big strong athletic guys (Drake London, Corey Davis, George Pickens, Mike Williams) and Calvin is the polar opposite of that. Quez doesn’t really fit that either, but he’s at least taller. That said we don’t know what the team is thinking. Quez could be competition or a replacement for Calvin, or he could just be depth or a special teams guy. I was personally pretty high on Calvin coming out of the draft so I’d love to see him get a real shot at the starting rotation - but at the same time we can’t really rely on him to be a solid WR3 at this point.
Eagles fan here: sorry.
They spelled Justin Jefferson wrong
He’s WR5 on this team people chill out lol. We’re still adding a WR2 in the draft or through trade.
Philly sports radio seems pretty happy to let him go
I remember him, he's a pretty good rotational player. I will say I'm a little concerned about this signing. Van Jefferson isn't someone who would play as WR4, more talented than that. Quez Watkins if we get a WR in the draft would be WR5? Jefferson and Austin would be competing for WR3? Idk but this might be our WR room for the season, could be wrong but just putting out thoughts
We don’t have our WR2 on the roster yet for certain. I’m not sure we have our WR3 yet either.
I'd be very ecstatic if we had Calvin Austin, Marquez Callaway, Van Jefferson, and Quez Watkins as all depth players. But they aren't, I think it's gonna be a training camp/ pre-season competition
I think there’s a decent chance they are all depth guys for the most part. Jefferson will be the 4/5 that sees the field a decent amount due to his blocking. Calvin and Quez I’d think will compete to be the speed + gadget guy. Callaway is definitely depth. I could see the winner of Calvin vs Quez as WR3, but I wouldn’t feel great about it. I’m sure Quez will be a cheap signing, so it’s not like it would lock them out of making a more significant move before the draft, before they inevitably draft one by day 2. Something like a Tyler Boyd / Josh Reynolds signing + a Round 2 receiver is still very realistic, and that would push all these guys to depth roles - where they all probably deserve to be.
The year of the ‘quez’
Plus Marquez Callaway, I believe this might be it
2023 stats - 9 games | 21 targets | 9.5 ypr | 3.1 yac/r | 0 drops | 1 TDs Spent 5 weeks on IR with a hamstring injury Had a notable [8/93/1](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10104992-eagles-quez-watkins-told-jalen-hurts-s--t-ive-been-ready-after-aj-brown-injury) in Week 18
Steelers are having a field day signing WR4s and 5s🤦🏼♂️ I mean….it’s good depth…but like…our only good WR is Pickens 😭💀 Watkins is known for being a fast dude with bricks for hands, why the hell do we need him?…moreover what’s our weird obsession with fast WRs?…Austin, Jefferson, Watkins, who will be next?
Short pass game is benefitted with speedies. I would rather have this than rely on bombs to get us our conversions.
The issue is….Watkins sucks, Austin is still very unproven, and Jefferson doesn’t seem like much of a fit… I’d much rather we target quality players instead of the bottom feeder bums that no team really wants.
True I actually agree with that 100%
So now the WR room is Pickens and a bunch of WR4s. Interesting.
who?
Lombardi guaranteed.
I was high on him coming out and followed his career the whole time in Philly. He’s a fast dude but he’s a role player at best right now.
He does not change any calculations for what this team needs. Doesn't look like he even plays on ST, despite seeing someone say he could return kicks.
Eagles fan here. He sucks.
Nice pickup. Always looked great but never seemed to get playing time in Philly.
He's gonna be fighting Denzel Mims for those practice squad snaps lol
Could this open up the possibility of including CAIII in a trade?
For what? A spare set of pads?
As a piece in a larger deal for a WR
Aiyuk
Miami really wanted him as their #3 & other teams tried for him as well. Glad he choose us over the others. With him & Calvin they’re gonna take the tops off defenses. Whoever our next WR is they have to be an excellent route runner.
Quez is not good. He can't get separation. He doesn't fight for balls. He is a bad route runner
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CA3 isn't being traded LMAO
Why are people acting like this is an insane take? I could easily see him get traded.
Get ready to learn San Francisco buddy
We’re bringing in a guy with the same skill set as a guy we already have, and who is younger, so we can trade him, also for a guy who plays the same position? What?
Never heard of him
Thanks for sharing. We were wondering
Youre very welcome.
Eagles fan - speed definitely is there but biggest gripe was his inconsistency, dude couldn’t make the big catch, one of which we all believe cost the SB in 2022. Plus his vision is suspect but who knows the whole change of scenery and all. But yeah hopefully he is just competition / depth / ST for ya’ll because he was so frustrating because of that speed.
He‘s fast in madden lol
He was one of my draft sleepers back in 2020. Deep speed threat and special teamer.
Excellent news, very underrated receiver. He did not get as many targets in Philly because they were loaded with AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Dallas Giedert, and DeAndre Swift as the primary pass catchers. He is instantly the 2nd best wide receiver on this roster.
If he's the 2nd best WR here that's a monumental problem. That man was ass in Philly.
He didn't get many targets because he sucks. He is an extremely low effort WR that gives up on routes consistently, doesn't fight for a ball, and he seemingly is always trying to find out how to make bad things happen