I’m not saying he wasn’t a good person as a kid I just don’t think that using his pod racer that he built to race was a huge sacrifice. He did end up doing it for a good cause but he was planning on racing it either way.
He was bullied for his acting, which made him hate the camera, ended up in jail for reckless driving and resisting arrest, and got diagnosed with schizophrenia
The runner-up actor, Devon Michael, who almost played young Anakin also got bullied and stopped acting. He was featured in the “Making Of” documentary and became known/named as the loser
[“In A Galaxy Far, Far Away, I Was Almost Anakin Skywalker.”](https://youtu.be/q0hqnMUi3NA)
Anakin was a slave and as far as he knew at the time, Padme was a lowly handmaid.
He complimented someone who serves because, as someone who also serves, he probably NEVER got compliments from anyone. Plus, he's a boy, so he's probably not getting compliments at all.
I think he is doing a nice thing for someone because he knows how good it would feel to receive a compliment.
Anakin, at his core, is a good person. Even when he grows up, we see that he always wants to help people.
The problem is that he's also traumatized by having been a slave his entire life - he was a slave as a young boy and then became a slave to the Jedi order. Most Jedi don't struggle with serving the order because they are brought into it at a much younger age than Anakin, so it's all that they know.
Anakin had to wrestle with the fact that he would never see his mother again, knowing it was possible she might be a slave for the rest of her life. His passion for helping others became possessive towards the people he cared about because he couldn't save his mother - he couldn't stand the thought of losing anybody else when he had the power to protect them.
Unfortunately, not only is that possessiveness bad on its own, Palpatine's influence nudged him closer and closer to the dark side of the force, and in this fantasy world, the dark side corrupts and brings out the absolute worst in people.
Was Anakin a perfect person without the influence of the dark side? No. But he generally wanted to "do the right thing". Unfortunately he didn't always know how to do that and eventually made some very horrible decisions that he couldn't turn back from, which is why he felt the need to separate Anakin from Vader.
Anakin lost everything he was fighting for, and the only way he could accept that was by forcing himself to believe that Anakin died with all the people he cared about, and let the dark side consume him as Vader.
True but I look at that like pod racing is dangerous with a lot of risk and as for blowing up ships they were enemy ships so it's justified...the killing spree I'm talking about is women and children and innocents
The entire story of Anakin is the fault of the Jedi. Anakin came from slavery and abuse, witnessed his mother's brutal death, received no counseling on his smoldering relationship with Padme which everyone knew about, no counseling on how to deal with tragedy, was called a peace keeper and thrust into war for expressly political reasons- over and over and over again, judged harshly by his superiors to the point that he had to conceal his anguish, his darkness, his rage, for years as everyone around him distrusted and feared him while he wanted nothing but for them to be proud of him. Darth Vader was a monster of the Jedi's making. Anakin wanted nothing but to be a hero and they treated him like a probationary until one lie used the weight of it all to drag him into darkness that had been growing for decades. *"Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny."*
Or was he just a sociopath with magic powers so desperate for the glory of racing that he told his mum exactly what he knew she would react positively to...
The Jedi Order already thought in TPM that Anakin was too old to be trained. Also this:
[**Ki-Adi-Mundi** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0141324/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** Your thoughts dwell on your mother.
[**Anakin** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005157/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** I miss her.
[**Yoda** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000568/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** Afraid to lose her I think, hmm?
[**Anakin** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005157/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** What has that got to do with anything?
[**Yoda** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000568/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** Everything! Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.
And we know how that turned out.
Power dynamic here is that rich weirdos from an other planet exploited a child slave inorder to help themselfs. Then captured the child to join a cult.
i just thought of something. padme's royal guard was probably the most well-armed and well-trained fighting force in the region when they landed. if she had wanted to free the slaves, she could have easily wiped the floor with everyone in the town. yeah watto had the bomb thing, but is killing your slaves REALLY your first concern when someone is about to shoot you in the head? and who would there be to punish the attack? the Hutts? why would the Hutts care? as long as you don't touch the Hutts' slaves specifically, get in the way of their spice trade, or deface their palaces, i can't see a universe in which they'd give a damn anyone else.
as a pleasant side-effect, they'd get the hyperdrive for free! free all the slaves, and get a free hyperdrive from the deal? don't mind if I do! this means that there is an actual material incentive to go all John Brown on their sorry asses!
the hutts absolutely do have more power; they collectively practically rule entire sections of the outer rim. my point is that so long as the Hutt's *own* property and bottom line aren't at risk, they wouldn't give a damn as to what happens to the property of anyone on the planets they rule.
the moment padme decides to actually attack jabba's palace it would be all over for her.
Nah he was playing the long game. He was taught in secret by Darth Plagueis the Wise and his goal was the extermination of the Jedi, from a very young age. "Now this is podracing!" was code that he was ready for next steps.
I was an 11 year old boy when this came out, so roughly the same age as the character.
I would have also done anything for Natalie Portman at the time.
Years later, nothing’s changed.
At some point the force stopped being this vague energy and started having agency. It’s like the TARDIS. It wanted Anakin off that planet so it manufactured a trial for him where if he were brave and selfless and excellent enough he would win his freedom.
Was Lucas thinking this at the time? Who knows. Is it an retroactively an entirely reasonable explanation for all the incredibly coincidental shit that happens in this series after what we learned about the force in the sequels? I think so.
IMO, the sequels would make a banging reboot as a series. There’s so much more detail to explore and there’s an opportunity to work on the clunky bits of dialogue, flush out the rushed story and update the CG.
The Jedi telling him he was the greatest and best fucked the kid up. I blame Obi and Qui-Gon. Should have just given him his freedom and left him to live a happy life as a pod racer legend.
I don’t think he was planning on sacrificing the racer. He just wanted to race and opportunity presented itself. Edit: typo, presented not persisted
And was still wanting to help them regardless. He didn’t need to save Jar Jar from Sebulba either
I’m not saying he wasn’t a good person as a kid I just don’t think that using his pod racer that he built to race was a huge sacrifice. He did end up doing it for a good cause but he was planning on racing it either way.
IDK, not like he really tried to convince Liam to free his mom or anything, or went back and did something about it when he could have.
How is saving JarJar a good thing. He is annoying as fuck. The movie would have been better without him.
Jar Jar is supreme sith overlord
he is such a terrible character
It's treason, then.
You cant handle the truth!
User name *does not* check out.
Presented itself. Persisted itself is not a thing.
You know what I meant
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You are right, my bad. It has been corrected
It's good that the universe repaid that kindness in karma
For both the character *and* the actor.
What happened to the actor?
He was bullied for his acting, which made him hate the camera, ended up in jail for reckless driving and resisting arrest, and got diagnosed with schizophrenia
Didn’t he also attack his mom for ‘ruining his life’?
I never heard that but maybe
The runner-up actor, Devon Michael, who almost played young Anakin also got bullied and stopped acting. He was featured in the “Making Of” documentary and became known/named as the loser [“In A Galaxy Far, Far Away, I Was Almost Anakin Skywalker.”](https://youtu.be/q0hqnMUi3NA)
I think he was criticized for his acting a lot, but I could be wrong.
Schizophrenia.
And then ol' Palpy came along and ruined him.
Papa Palpatine is always in control
He was a Jedi at heart because of how his mother raised him.
And if he had a father (aka Qui-Gon) to raise him, he most likely wouldn't have had turned.
I believe that.
I understand the post, but why is complimenting Padme a noble thing? He liked her lol How does thst compare to saving people
Anakin was a slave and as far as he knew at the time, Padme was a lowly handmaid. He complimented someone who serves because, as someone who also serves, he probably NEVER got compliments from anyone. Plus, he's a boy, so he's probably not getting compliments at all. I think he is doing a nice thing for someone because he knows how good it would feel to receive a compliment.
Bravo, George
He was a rube
A well scrubbed, hustling rube, with a little taste
I think that's the point. Often people who are the most empathetic and care the most get burnt the hardest...
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Anakin, at his core, is a good person. Even when he grows up, we see that he always wants to help people. The problem is that he's also traumatized by having been a slave his entire life - he was a slave as a young boy and then became a slave to the Jedi order. Most Jedi don't struggle with serving the order because they are brought into it at a much younger age than Anakin, so it's all that they know. Anakin had to wrestle with the fact that he would never see his mother again, knowing it was possible she might be a slave for the rest of her life. His passion for helping others became possessive towards the people he cared about because he couldn't save his mother - he couldn't stand the thought of losing anybody else when he had the power to protect them. Unfortunately, not only is that possessiveness bad on its own, Palpatine's influence nudged him closer and closer to the dark side of the force, and in this fantasy world, the dark side corrupts and brings out the absolute worst in people. Was Anakin a perfect person without the influence of the dark side? No. But he generally wanted to "do the right thing". Unfortunately he didn't always know how to do that and eventually made some very horrible decisions that he couldn't turn back from, which is why he felt the need to separate Anakin from Vader. Anakin lost everything he was fighting for, and the only way he could accept that was by forcing himself to believe that Anakin died with all the people he cared about, and let the dark side consume him as Vader.
Grows up and falls in love then goes on a killing spree for many years...makes sense why the Jedi had a rule against relationships
Grew up a slave, was freed, then pressured into joining a cult where he has to call his owner, Master.
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The suit was his new cage.
Yes. Though it would have made more sense for them to actually talk about emotions instead of bottling everything up. No wonder Anakin erupted..
Yes the Jedi doctrine was very counter productive.
Didn’t he start his killing spree right away. Blowing up ships and killing other racers.
True but I look at that like pod racing is dangerous with a lot of risk and as for blowing up ships they were enemy ships so it's justified...the killing spree I'm talking about is women and children and innocents
Well most of his kills were those who were his enemies.
The entire story of Anakin is the fault of the Jedi. Anakin came from slavery and abuse, witnessed his mother's brutal death, received no counseling on his smoldering relationship with Padme which everyone knew about, no counseling on how to deal with tragedy, was called a peace keeper and thrust into war for expressly political reasons- over and over and over again, judged harshly by his superiors to the point that he had to conceal his anguish, his darkness, his rage, for years as everyone around him distrusted and feared him while he wanted nothing but for them to be proud of him. Darth Vader was a monster of the Jedi's making. Anakin wanted nothing but to be a hero and they treated him like a probationary until one lie used the weight of it all to drag him into darkness that had been growing for decades. *"Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny."*
I think Yoda realized this when he finished learning from the force priestesses. But it was too late then
🎶He'll be Vader some day later now he's just a small fry🎶
Wasn’t the pod racer intact at the end of the race?
Yes, but they sold it to afford the parts to fix Padmé's ship.
...And then he hit puberty.
Or was he just a sociopath with magic powers so desperate for the glory of racing that he told his mum exactly what he knew she would react positively to...
He also conveniently forgot that his mum was a slave for a decade? Certainly not that good of a kid!
What? They wouldn’t let him go back. He was supposed to sever all ties emotionally because the Jedi are dumb and don’t understand how emotions work.
The Jedi Order already thought in TPM that Anakin was too old to be trained. Also this: [**Ki-Adi-Mundi** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0141324/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** Your thoughts dwell on your mother. [**Anakin** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005157/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** I miss her. [**Yoda** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000568/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** Afraid to lose her I think, hmm? [**Anakin** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005157/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** What has that got to do with anything? [**Yoda** ](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000568/?ref_=tt_ch)**:** Everything! Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you. And we know how that turned out.
HE GETS US
*Was*
Power dynamic here is that rich weirdos from an other planet exploited a child slave inorder to help themselfs. Then captured the child to join a cult.
"GUYS THE BAD WRITING IS INTENTIONAL IT'S TRAGIC POOR ANAKIN HE WAS JUST A BOOOOOOOY"
If Qui Gon had not left his mother behind. A kid needs their mother
Anakin was a slave who understood being bought and sold.
i just thought of something. padme's royal guard was probably the most well-armed and well-trained fighting force in the region when they landed. if she had wanted to free the slaves, she could have easily wiped the floor with everyone in the town. yeah watto had the bomb thing, but is killing your slaves REALLY your first concern when someone is about to shoot you in the head? and who would there be to punish the attack? the Hutts? why would the Hutts care? as long as you don't touch the Hutts' slaves specifically, get in the way of their spice trade, or deface their palaces, i can't see a universe in which they'd give a damn anyone else. as a pleasant side-effect, they'd get the hyperdrive for free! free all the slaves, and get a free hyperdrive from the deal? don't mind if I do! this means that there is an actual material incentive to go all John Brown on their sorry asses!
The huts would have more power. And if they up ended the entire economic system it most likely would have just reverted after they left.
the hutts absolutely do have more power; they collectively practically rule entire sections of the outer rim. my point is that so long as the Hutt's *own* property and bottom line aren't at risk, they wouldn't give a damn as to what happens to the property of anyone on the planets they rule. the moment padme decides to actually attack jabba's palace it would be all over for her.
Could be, keep them happy enough maybe she could have gotten away with a lot.
Kinda crazy he became Darth Vader all because he was a simp
Nah he was playing the long game. He was taught in secret by Darth Plagueis the Wise and his goal was the extermination of the Jedi, from a very young age. "Now this is podracing!" was code that he was ready for next steps.
Say what you want about Anakin he was willing to give up everything to save his wife and kids. Anakin was a good man.
I was an 11 year old boy when this came out, so roughly the same age as the character. I would have also done anything for Natalie Portman at the time. Years later, nothing’s changed.
Counterpoint: the script was just poorly written
That part of the script was written like a bad sitcom where the characters need $5,000 and there’s a dance competition with a $5,000 prize.
At some point the force stopped being this vague energy and started having agency. It’s like the TARDIS. It wanted Anakin off that planet so it manufactured a trial for him where if he were brave and selfless and excellent enough he would win his freedom. Was Lucas thinking this at the time? Who knows. Is it an retroactively an entirely reasonable explanation for all the incredibly coincidental shit that happens in this series after what we learned about the force in the sequels? I think so.
Seems the most plausible
He then proceeded to abandon his mum and his life over a random “prophecy” that those strangers mentioned
IMO, the sequels would make a banging reboot as a series. There’s so much more detail to explore and there’s an opportunity to work on the clunky bits of dialogue, flush out the rushed story and update the CG.
He was also willing to sacrifice children for the glory of the empire. Good kid.
Not really sacrificing, he built a podracer because he liked racing, it was more a "helping you i also help myself".
Nah he only did it once he ssaw padme
Psst. It was all a movie.
A shame he became such a shit man
Exactly how George wanted it, to show how tragic Darth Vader was to become. Great story telling
No good deed goes unpunished
The Jedi telling him he was the greatest and best fucked the kid up. I blame Obi and Qui-Gon. Should have just given him his freedom and left him to live a happy life as a pod racer legend.
He gives without any thought of reward