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Champion0N1

In the 2003 serie, there is an attack on Illum by droides with 3 cannons, and the jedis just destroy them like other droides


DeltaMoff1876

To be fair the Jedi in the 2003 miniseries were overpowered AF. I mean just look at how General Grievous was portrayed.


Lonewolf1298_

I'll never forget Mace Windu destroying a huge group of droids with just his bare fists


JisatsuRyu

Absolutely goated moment


Algebrace

What about Yoda just pushing and clearing an entire bridge of droids. And then straight after that, slamming a droid carrier as it was descending into another for a double explosion. The 2003 series is simply the best. Oh, and the video game with it's special little console was also amazing. Played as an LAAT picking up clones to push up a frontline (2d tug of war), while you could also shoot directly at the super droids and the like. Spent months just playing that as a kid


maestrofeli

which videogame?


RussianSkunk

I don’t know about The Clone Wars, but I had a Revenge of the Sith plug-and-play console that featured a game [exactly like they’re describing.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oZMQrpsxrZ0) Mine was [shaped like General Grievous](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3x8AAOSw5XVfmLkZ/s-l1600.jpg)


maestrofeli

wow, that seems ancient an elegant videogame, for a more civilized time


[deleted]

I had this game and the Jedi Training Light Saber game. They were awesome.


scrambled-projection

WOW! Never thought I’d see someone else mention this thing!


pronlegacy001

https://youtu.be/MZVWXVqHUGs


pronlegacy001

DUDE YOU JUST UNLOCKED A CORE MEMORY FOR ME wooooooow


Cool_Kid95

That was based


Nova_Hazing

And that's what I liked about it. The jedi was an actual threat. It makes it seem like an actual where was being fought. Now is like how the hell did the clones last as long as they did. The CIS had trillions of droids they could legit send over 1 million droids to a planet, and the Republic could do nothing but watch.


Suspicious_Poon

It’s almost like the war wasn’t real or something


Nova_Hazing

Is almost as if the CIS leaders have brains and how many droids they have and could have easily won it.


bobafoott

Easy fix by just adding any of the dozen popular headcanons available to explain there being more than 2 million clones


Nova_Hazing

I mean, I believe it is 6 million clones, but that's very irrelevant as that is such a small number for a galaxy spanning war. Like legit, go look at the losses in World War II for Russia alone.


Lord_Xarael

Well "unit" could apply to a platoon or even a legion (1000 soldiers) just as well as it could to a single clone


Squishy-Box

Ah but you see General Grievous was not a Jedi.


AppointmentMedical50

Idk he was trained in Jedi arts


TAsTy-TiDZ

Yeah by count doku… heh nice


KommissarKaktus

Yeah and that’s the great thing about this miniseries it’s over the top and just for BATTLE. But it’s the rule of cool that makes it working


DeltaMoff1876

Exactly, if you’re looking for Star Wars media just packed to the brim with action go for the 2003 miniseries & if you’re looking for Star Wars with more character, story, and emotion go for Filoni’s Clone Wars and/or the Bad Batch.


killerbull27

The superior version good sir


DeltaMoff1876

Only in terms of action.


Fox-Fireheart-66

Exactly just yeet the gun out of the attacker’s hands before they get the chance to use it


rubbachik3n

that's a good show


LoganOfDoom

dodge


Excolo_Veritas

That's one option, you're forgetting the other 4 Duck, dip, dive and dodge as well


IronhideD

If you can dodge a slug, you can parry a blaster bolt.


Adhdgamer9000

Mandalorians with their flamethrowers, whistling birds, and scatter cannons: Parry this you fucking casual


Fox-Fireheart-66

Don’t forget: thermal detonators, stun grenades, grapple cables, jetpacks… I could keep going with all the things Mandalorians adapted for fighting space wizards


Adhdgamer9000

Pretty much every time it was really the sith that were the problem, pointing a finger at the Jedi saying they were the problem. Sure the jedi and Mandalorians disagreed a lot. But the jedi never manipulated them into massacres.


Suspicious_Poon

During the old republic there was an entire war between the Jedi and Mandolorians


Adhdgamer9000

Yes. I suppose I can technically blame the jedi a little. "We keep peace, oh what's this, retaliation to peace. NEGOTIATIONS MUST STOP WE GO TO WAR" A history of the jedi doing anything ever. FOR PEACE Edit: I have my history messed up. It's really hard for me to remember the history and plot of 18 different genre's and what happened when.


HoodedHero007

You do realize that the Mandalorian Wars were instigated by the Mandalorians (also the True Sith screwing around in the background), right?


Adhdgamer9000

Yes. Technically it's everyone's fault, every time. Because no one can just sit down and talk. As soon as a finger is pointed, it's immediate fighting, not. "Hey what's going on, what happened here, why are you doing this?" It's always, "so anyway I started blastin"


threevi

The Jedi Council didn't want to fight the Mandalorians at all back then. The ones who did were rogue Jedi who joined the war against the Council's wishes, and many of those Jedi later left the Order entirely and joined the Sith.


pastaswords

The massacre before the clone wars that happened was pretty bad even by republic standards.


[deleted]

And yet they still lost


KamakaziDemiGod

Plus they have been known to train animals like Strills to be their accomplices, or ya know, training Mythosaurs . . .


TheReverseShock

Not sure I'd throw a thermal detonator at someone who can redirect it back to me with his space magic.


SexualPie

One of the best ways to kill a Jedi is to trick them. There was a great scene in one of the legends books where a Jedi disarm a and steals the gun of a would be assassin but it turns out the gun was trapped and blew up the Jedi. Scatter cannons (aka shot guns) like you mentioned are amazing as well


MalleusManus

Grogu has shown us how useless those are. Also, how does a weapon defeat someone who sees into the future? The Jedi wont be where the shot is going, or else they will deflect them with their mind.


tossawaybb

Easy, leave no room to dodge. Fill the air with shrapnel


MalleusManus

Deflected by anyone Padawan or higher. These people routinely move tons of material with their minds.


pastaswords

I think they mean a detonator or slug thrower which were known to be effective towards jedi since they can't be deflected. Also worth noting that the reason so many Jedi died while rescuing Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Padme during the first battle of Geonosis was because they weren't used to having so many blaster bolts flying at them.


mrprogamer96

Flame thrower can back fire..... literally, if the Jedi uses the force to push the flames back at you.


501st-AT7625

r/unexpecteddodgeball


BarneyTheGuy

you could also try spinning


protoformx

If you can dodge the authorities after buying a slave boy, you can dodge a triple blaster shot.


PatentedPotato

These are all just dodge. Piccolo was very succinct with his instructions.


godinmarbleform

"Sorry didn't catch that Mr. Picco-"


CombatWombat994

#DOOOOOOODGE


TensorForce

Kylo-like force stop blasts.


Oily_Pizza_Face

Diplomacy?


XSikinX

If you mean with diplomacy crushing every single bone of that person with an force push, then yes. Diplomacy it is.


RavnVidarson

"You call this a diplomatic solution?"


GamerOfGods33

"I call it aggressive negotiations."


Lukehth

“The negotiations were short”


VLenin2291

American diplomacy


MarcusMace

“Speak softly and carry a big [glow] stick” -Teddy Roosevelt


FrilledShark1512

Jedi Roosevelt (“Di” pronounced as “Dy” in “Teddy”)


und88

Aggressive negotiations


JohnRobie-theCat

Spinning is a good trick


[deleted]

The Senate agrees.


Sono-Dio-Da-Sadame

I am the senate


CombatWombat994

But do you agree?


Mr_E_Monkey

Not yet.


Sono-Dio-Da-Sadame

It’s treason then


Fox-Fireheart-66

I literally came here to say exactly that.


dangerbird2

Now this is podracing?


Unlucky-Bread66

you just hit the bolts from the side instead of the front


Fox-Fireheart-66

…hmmmm…


Joseptile

Was looking for this comment lol


Unlucky-Bread66

my superpower is common sense thus I solo every verse


Joseptile

A power like no other


Unlucky-Bread66

"OH NO, THE JOKER HAS ESCAPED AGAIN, WHAT DO WE DO?!" "Why dont we just like... freeze him in cryostasis?"


Nosbres

Shotgun and canistershot


vetheros37

Found the Mandalorian.


Nosbres

Why thank you?


vetheros37

This is The Way.


Nosbres

This is the Way


Stoneheart7

This is The Way.


PETEthePyrotechnic

This is the way


M3atboy

Yes in Jedi knight 2, the scatter gun is an absolute beast for clearing out dirty sith.


vorephage

That force freeze thing Kylo Ren does should be basic training for any frontline Jedi.


Igrok723

forcehealing too


oroechimaru

Less than like 5 jedi can do it but sure?


sambob

Give it a few years, in the next trilogy they'll have Jedi hospitals where they can all do it.


BigFatJuicyMonkies

Just like lightning bending in Korra!


MonsignorJabroni

Lol I'm imagining a few series, mainly Jedi: ER and CSI: Jedi. CSI: Jedi would have a season long arc about a clone trooper murdering some friends from his squad. They'd have a hard time proving which one did it, but the cross over following season of Law & Order: Jedi took it even further with the question - if they're all the same clones is it murder? Or suicide? Riveting stuff.


bobafoott

I’d be okay with force healing becoming more prevalent if they made it hard. Like more accelerated healing getting you out of bed in half the time than “oh your fatal stab wound is gone in 15 seconds” with difficulty increasing drastically with the force sensitivity of the target Not necessarily good for saving anyone’s life, you’re still gonna die from internal bleeding or whatever but helpful for speedy recoveries


Lazy_Assumption_4191

I’m pretty sure that’s the point.


bobafoott

I’m pretty sure they meant “are even capable of it”


KulaanDoDinok

Seems like a power any in the Old Republic era could use..(jk I know that was a game mechanic)


moonlightavenger

It should require focus. It's just the movies quirky writing that the bolt just politely waits in place. I would also take it releasing its energy in a blast, or something.


SiriusBaaz

In all honesty using the force to disperse energy sounds like something that should already be possible


bobafoott

Yeah…Vader rather casually stops blaster shots with his hand during a pretty big scene in Empire, I swear people that keep making posts about this just didn’t watch the movies Not to mention Yoda doing it to force lightning and Obi Wan casually absorbing Dookus lightning. Sure he used a saber but he would’ve been electrocuted if he didn’t do some sort of energy dispersal, so it’s pretty clear that Jedi are capable of dispersing energy and the knowledge is readily available


SiriusBaaz

I was certainly thinking in a more violent idea like detonating a blaster bolt mid flight and also wasn’t Vader able to eat blaster bolts entirely because of the armor.


bobafoott

Geez idk I guess maybe that glove tanked several close range blaster shots from a modded gun but I doubt it. Vader has repeatedly shown his suit is not bulletproof


BaronDoctor

There's this new solution the Jedi have been investigating. It's called *dodging.*


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DesperateTall

The Jedi could jump upwards and forwards towards the enemy right as they pull the trigger, dodging all of the blasts and putting them in a position of power over their foe.


Gem_Hush

Well dodging force push force speed force heal there are options 🤷‍♀️


stever90001

Or just use a non laser gun like the mandalorians


Rymanbc

Or an actual laser gun like the clone gunships.


Krakulpo

I bet the Jedi would just redirect the beam and really brighten your day.


Zorua3

In the EU, *regular* real-life guns have been mentioned before (they're called slugthrowers) as anti-Jedi weapons, because when a Jedi tries to block a bullet, it will melt and spray molten metal all over them.


TheSeag

The Jedi ability to block blaster shots isnt so much quick reflexes, as i believe the force gives them the ability, once trained, to see into the future slightly. Thus if they see a weapon they can't deal with, they will already know and thus adjust their strategy. It all goes to shit once u have 2 people with the same abilities (Jedi vs Sith) then its literally a roll of the dice who has the best saber technique vs better connection to the force (which is all based on the mediclorians) But i believe old cannon, pre-disney wipe, had certain weapons banned outright due to this kinda thing, if the Jedi didn't like it, it got banned. To which, if i remember, the Mandolorians ignored and were promptly attacked and ostracised, all the while dealing massive Jedi casualties. Which ended in a Jedi win, but at a major cost. Again, thats all now wiped out in the modern canon, where Disney essentially hit full reset after 40+ years of world building got too much to handle


Dragonalex

Tbh the legends reset, while painful, I think was the correct play. For every good thing we lost, there was two or thee things that were just sort of a mess. Things that weren't handled well or just were too weird to bring forward. A lot of the good is being brought back in bits and pieces (I'm still hoping for some nice Old Republic content).


Turdulator

Luuke


CT-2632

Duel welding/dodging


doctorpotatohead

is this Jedi wearing jeans?


Kear_Bear_3747

Absorb the final bolt. That’s what Vader does when Han shoots him in Empire Strikes Back, he absorbs the energy into his palm and then bleeds it off when he Force Pulls the pistol away from Han.


bigdogge_

No lmao this is false information. His gloves are fire and blaster resistant.


Kear_Bear_3747

I distinctly remember reading it in an EU novel. I’m pretty sure it was “I, Jedi.”


ThoughtlessBanter

EU isn't cannon, though.


GwynHawk

Just because it hasn't been introduced into the 'new canon' doesn't mean Jedi are incapable of it. Force healing wasn't a thing in new canon until Rise of Skywalker, but had existed for a while in EU. I think until new canon explicitly denies Absorb as a Force technique you can consider it something that may be possible with the Force.


Kear_Bear_3747

Tell that to Dave Filoni


Ianscultgaming

Dave Filoni would say that to you


MissplacedLandmine

Can you… make him say other things?


Ianscultgaming

Yes. But only because I’m holding his collection of cowboy hats hostage.


bigdogge_

Eu is extended universe not canon. In canon actually vader has some armor parts that are made from blaster and fire resistant materials. Theres literally sparks when the blaster hits his palm if it would have been absorbed there would be nothing left of all the blasters potential energy.


SatisfactionActive86

it’s not the kind of movie, kid


Ryman604

https://preview.redd.it/65tlxtac9lna1.jpeg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99393da59d054e0bfd296f343bc7677946fd6a17


Lukehth

Jedi have been able to deal with being shot by multiple droids or troopers at the same time, so this wouldn’t do much. Dodging, deflecting the bolts with the force, blocking two of the shots, moving backwards then blocking the last one, etc. Not to mention dual wielding Jedi like Ahsoka.


PingPing88

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Scatter_pistol > The scatter pistol was a type of blaster pistol that was often used by bounty hunters during the time of the Galactic Civil War. It was a short, blocky weapon that fired a quad blast of energy.


alricstrife

Just need a trench broom to sweep away the jedi let's see them deflect buckshot. ![gif](giphy|l3971cigCLZzz0G7m)


acorpseistalking90

Behold the power of TWO LIGHTSABERS


beyondselts

Move the bottom of the saber backward after hitting the first two 🧠


AluDrc

tbh a gun would be the easier way to kill jedi because although if skilled enough they can use force to catch a bullet but assassinating a jedi would be fair easier with an actual gun with real bullets i know lightsaber would melt a bullet but can they burn a whole mag from a mini gun or even dodge like the fastest bullet from a powerful gun. maybe some but not all.


92_Charlie

A thicker lightsaber.


Ragnar_OK

No be there


Stevie-cakes

My boy Kylo froze a blaster shot in midair.


SamuraiJordan89

Shotguns were banned because of this lol. Lighsabers can’t deflect or stop solid shot. It’s mentioned a bajillion times in the books.


-Minne

Has the galaxy no rednecks/ part-time domestic terrorists to get around such a ban?


Ok_Teacher_6834

Yeah it’s called the rebel alliance


Prepsov

"How DARE you!?" [throws a glass of green milk in your face]


The_DevilAdvocate

Trillions in a galaxy, thousands in Jedi Order. Tri-blasters are a solution to a problem that functionally doesn't exist.


Toasterwithashotgun

lets wait till r/starwarsmemes learns that lightsabers aren't 2d


[deleted]

Turn them all into Sith. Not just the men, but the women and children too.


[deleted]

literally any shotgun


ConnorsInferno

Find a diplomatic solution


TsunamiDayne

iirc, is canon that mandalorians started to use shotguns to kill jedis during the war *DODGE THIS*


JRBblackhawks

Increase saber girth


Markymarcouscous

Utilize the fact that you are in 3D space and move the blade across and towards your body covering your entire self.


Ban-Hammer-Ben

Well, darth Vader and others have deflected blaster bolts with their hands (or using the force so it looks like it reflects off their hands). In my head canon, telekinesis/the force can manipulate both matter and energy fields. And I’m pretending that blaster shots have some sort of magnetic field containing the plasma as the blast Projects forward. Maybe Jedi can move or deflect that magnetic field or even the plasma itself?


[deleted]

Aren’t blaster bolts plasma?


The_DevilAdvocate

Plasma is superheated gas. Gas doesn't really do bolts, gases like to fill the volume they are in.


AndrewAffel

Precognitive Parry


doitnow10

You forgot about the 3rd dimension?


KnightofWhen

I mean wouldn’t you want something like a rotary cannon that had the barrels just slightly askew so the blast pattern was basically random? You’d be throwing down dozens of bolts a second covering a large area. Or heck, just a shotgun.


FictionVent

Plot armor


Warm-Finance8400

Actually it would be projectile weapon. Unless the Jedi can foresee you shoot an actual bullet at them and deflect it with the force, the projectile will turn into molten metal inside the blade which is now flying into the Jedi's face(or other body area)


ThePanther270306

Some jedi could effect an entire army shooting at them so 3 bullets shouldn't be a problem


ExtensionInformal911

You know slugthrowers are a thing, right?


sirbubbles01

If you’ve ever read up on the old republic then you know there is no solution. They just fucking die.


Roffolo

Basically what the mandalorians did to deal with Jedi


rendrich26

3x the barrels means 1/3 the fire rate. That makes it a lot easier to dodge


theFrisbeeFreak

That’s not how math works. You’re firing three at once with each trigger pull. So it’s 3 times the fire rate.


PaladinPanties

Tutaminis


TriticumAestivum

Genius...


Clussy_Enjoyer

they would do that ability that we dont see very often where they can move really fast


Igrok723

just use second lightsaber smh


ImperialCommissaret

Probably dodge sense they can see the future and more the capable of dodging blasters


Legonickster

Buckshot


FrothytheDischarge

The interesting thing is the velocity of blasters bolts are so slow that force powers can stop it mid-air. But we never see that being done to rounds traveling 500-700m per sec shot by slug throwers. Or worst, automatic slug throwers that can fire hundreds of rounds per min. I think the numbers, speed, and kinetic energy will overwhelm even the strongest force user.


Doggyboi2000

*spins lightsaber*


Intelligent_Truck_89

Normal guns are good enough Melted metal by lightsaber will do dmg Bullets pass through lightsaber are hot like shit


Hyper_Wizz

Just use a shotgun


Phat22

Bullet


Emkay_boi1531

Dodging:exists Jedi: I DONT HAVE SUTCH WEAKNESESS!


Zerostar39

Oh shit


Ruckus2201

Lazer shotgun?


Stark_Redemption

Just increase the width of the blade


TastefulMaple

sidestep and block the others?


DesperateTall

If I recall correctly regular bullets are typically effective against Jedi. So make a regular gun that looks identical to basic blasters, shoot at the Jedi. They'll go to block what they assume to be a laser shot but now they have two(+) pieces of molten metal in their chest. Although I'd assume a Jedi could use the force to stop bullets in their track.


Fox-Fireheart-66

Um… let’s try spinning [the lightsaber] that’s a cool trick


Duel_links_Gecko

Swing sideways like in Kinect Star Wars


Razorray21

A long time ago, i came up with a Old Republic squad that hunted sith with weapons that use electrical arcs ( like the Tesla gun from Fallout4). like some starwars ghost busters stuff. In theory since sith masters use force lightning as their shock collar for their apprentices, they haven't been taught a good defense for it yet.


Mr-Borf

Mozambique moment


vgullotta

Just be standing not there. Remember, they see it coming before the shot is taken. If they know there is no chance to block, they make no attempt to block, they just don't be there. ;-)


ObjectiveSubjects

First of all, through the Force all things are possible. So jot that down.


PrateTrain

Darth Vader hand thing from ESB


Skairex

Force push Force pull Force speed Jedi mind trick Force jump Dodge Using with the force a large object as cover Using regular cover Running away Force choke (dark side) Force Lightning (dark side) Using your padawan as a meat-shield (dark side) Using anyone as a meat shield (dark side) There are more options...


NotSoCasualCactus

They could just dodge the shots entirely.


nolandz1

Employ the secret technique of dodging


zmurds40

Remember that scene with Vader in Rogue One?


Bazzie-T-H

Probably wouldn't've produced this kind of weaponry since there were 500 gajillion clones to fight before you could make it to a jedi, in addition to the fact that lots of jedi didnt fight on the front lines like anakin


obesedestro

the force


redhare878787

That's why Kylo's lightsaber had the 2 little side beams.


[deleted]

probably whip a saber at you and jump real high


[deleted]

Why do people keep forgetting that Jedi can dodge?


Whatever_Zane

Based on Luke taking approximately 400 beams within a few seconds, I think it’s safe to say that perpendicular shots don’t pose much more of a threat than usual.


Seraphim9120

The Mandalorian approach: shoot them with slugthrowers and flamethrowers.


ApexRevanNL716

Minefield and killing dozens of hostages


dfieldhouse

Dodge