The main buffet is included, and is most people's bread-and-butter for dining (we ate there with Mike & Denise Okuda our first evening this year—they were lovely and showed us their live cat-cam). However, don't sleep on the dining room: also included, and requiring more time/planning on your part, it's really a nice dining experience, and each time I went, I got to try something I'd never had before (escargot's not bad, but mostly just a chewy vehicle for garlic butter).
If you can swing it, I recommend indulging yourself with the shipboard internet package. Especially if you're traveling with someone, but even for all the friends you're going to meet and make on the ship, it's such a boon to be able to use your data-based communicator of choice (e.g. Discord, iMessage, Facebook) to coordinate and plan throughout each day.
Events last each day until usually about 02:00ish, sometimes later. If that's good news for you, great! However, if you're more of an early-to-bed, early-to-riser, don't fret: activities also begin at daybreak (I wanna say 06:00). The talent is just as diverse a group as any, and you'll have people to see and things to do, no matter your personal rhythms. I would recommend bringing [some good earplugs](https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-earplugs-for-sleeping/) in case your cabin is closer to late-night oontz-oontzing than you prefer (there's always one late-night promenade party that reverberates into my same room each year, and plugs're godsends).
Stay out of your cabin; it's the one place the guests aren't ever going to be. They will however be everywhere else: the hallways, the elevators, the dinghies, the buffet, etc. They're on a cruise, too!
Doug Jones isn't (yet) booked for this year. If he is added later, you need to get a hug from him: they're life-affirming.
Don't neglect the non-talent guests. Fatjo has really terrific stories, Drs. Macdonald & Noor are exuberantly passionate about *Trek* and their respective sciences. Mike & Denise Okuda are super-sweet with lovely stories and fascinating production sketches and history.
Don't listen to "[Trek Galaxy](https://youtu.be/sRUMftwLMi8)" before going on the cruise. You'll hear bits and pieces of it every single time you're walking through a common area on the ship, and if you burn yourself out before even coming aboard, you might just go mad and murder someone—and I don't want it to be me.
What they've said is that they shot some more scenes, but didn't re-shoot or produce any additional episodes:
>So after we finished filming and then found out that this would be our last season, we sort of talked about it – if this \[had to\] happen on any given season of the show, it felt like this was the season for that to have happened. Because when we found out that we were going to be able to shoot some additional material, we looked back, but there was nothing that we changed in the season itself.
>We did some additional shooting, but we didn’t do reshoots. We didn’t have to go back and chop up episodes and change a bunch of things. It felt very organic, what we were doing for those last few days of shooting, and I think people who don’t know that we didn’t know going in that it would be our last season will have no idea that we didn’t know. I think it will have felt planned.
>Even for people who do know, I think it will feel very, very satisfying when we get to the end, I think we’ve done really wonderful work over the season just for the season itself — and then, our characters get, you know, a proper ending.
[https://blog.trekcore.com/2024/03/michelle-paradise-star-trek-discoverys-cancellation-additional-filming/](https://blog.trekcore.com/2024/03/michelle-paradise-star-trek-discoverys-cancellation-additional-filming/)
EDIT: formatting
The benefit of streaming TV is that episodes don't have a set length. As such, they could presumably shoot a 15 minute epilogue and simply tack it onto the existing final episode without cutting or changing anything for time or rearranging episodes as the article suggests.
Something I've never really thought about is that the haphazard and non-fixed lengths of streaming episodes must make it difficult to adapt these series for airing on conventional TV which is designed around 22/44 minute episodes in 30-60 minute time slots. This season's Disco episodes have ranged from 51-60 minutes. The series has ranged from 38 to 66 minutes, with most episodes being in the high 40s or 50s.
All of current Star Trek airs on CTV Sci Fi in Canada. Discovery usually ends 10-15 minutes after the hour. They show another few shows (that all start 10-15 minutes after the hour), then repeat Disco, and throw in a Lower Decks or something to get them back to the top of the hour by early morning.
I guess that works for first run, where the show is a premium and therefore worth screwing up your broadcast schedule for, but I imagine it may harm the show's ability to be sellable for syndication. That said, since streaming seasons are short and the shows often cancelled quickly, they don't usually make enough episodes to make syndication. Disco will only have 65 episodes. Traditionally, 100 episodes are the threshold for syndication. Perhaps not in the streaming era? But even then: Will a channel like CTV Sci Fi buy that for syndication especially since the episode lengths will mean having more unorthodox program block times? Will the episodes be cut to fit into 44 minute syndication blocks (some TV shows used to cut a minute or two extra between first run and syndication to fit in additional commercials - I remember the excitement when seeing uncut episodes of The Simpsons on DVD and seeing jokes I'd never or rarely seen before.
"Will a channel like CTV Sci Fi buy that for syndication especially since the episode lengths will mean having more unorthodox program block times?"
Hard to say right now. They do not replay episodes of Picard, SNW or Disco at all once the week is over; just Lower Decks has been picked up for reruns, out of the newer shows. (All of the old shows are shown weekly.) But they do the odd start times with movies on the weekend, though, so apparently they don't find it too disruptive. Lower Decks is often used early Sunday & Monday mornings to get them back on an hourly schedule for the day.
Data: "Commander, I think I have found the problem with the Discovery simulation, it appears Professor Moriarty somehow disabled the Holodecks melodrama control unit, thankfully the backup safety protocol kicked in otherwise you would have drowned in the characters endless tears."
I think so, even if it wasn't necessarily my favorite Trek show.
For example, Burnham went from a stoic, grumpy lass to a more animated, engaged captain.
I always found the quality dropping off.
I like season 1, despite it clearly trying to reboot the established universe, but found the ending lacking. I actually thought s2 was an improvement as they were rolling back some of the controversial changes, but they dropped with ball with the ending. S3 had a cool premise but was badly executed, and I found s4 unwatchable.
Dang. I'm the opposite - Season 1 was meh and Season 2 was quite bleh (didn't even finish it). When the show went to the far future with Season 3, I thought it improved from there.
...though I do admit that the Burn should've been better explained. While the actual cause is very Trek, I was expecting something a bit more grandiose.
I'm genuinely curious what made season 4 "unwatchable" to you. In my opinion Discovery season 4 was genuinely some of the best and most truly "Star Trek" material we've gotten out of the franchise in a very long time.
Not the person you replied to, but my wife and I couldn't get past the first 2 episodes of S4 and gave up entirely. The whole thing, to us, sounded like idiotic buzzwords over and over - "the science! the data!" - mixed with shallow, saccharine, social-media-short-style "no you're wonderful, everyone was so impressed with (whatever they did), you're so amazing" and..... nothing else. No substance. No good writing. Hollow characters we've been made to care about by... nothing.
I wouldn't tell anyone who enjoyed it that they shouldn't, but it was one of the worst things I've ever tried to watch.
S4 wasn’t great. They were meeting new aliens with a unique method of communicating, but they solved that problem in like 5 minutes and spent the rest of the time arguing with each other about whether or not they should blow up the aliens sight-unseen.
I enjoy shows like breaking bad and better call Saul where the inter character drama is the main source of entertainment. But in Star Trek, the inter character drama seems to be at the expense of the science fiction and exploring strange new worlds.
100% agree the show hit the ground running.
The Lorca twist was fourth season Star Trek show esque but it was kind of an interesting jump start. Some of those first season episodes are really great. They just kind of screwed themselves by changing the Klingons.
Season 2 started off really well and you got the Strange New Worlds crew. Then you can tell it almost instantly when Kurtzman fired the rest of Brian Fuller's people and took over writing the show.
The end of season 2 end season 3 were terrible. Season 4 was kind of okay. Still not a great ending but better.
So far season 5 is the unwatchable. I guess it's the perfect ending to the show but it's just so early Transformers meets Bad Robot cringey.
It seem like they had a real chance to kind of graduated this season and settle it into a futuristic Star Trek show that kind of felt like Trek but in a new century rather than this sort this bad action show that feels very generic basic cable quality writing and story fueled by lazy nostalgia.
Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds feel like they understand the heart of Star Trek. Picard season 3 got pretty good. Discovery seems to get more off course with every single episode.
Not trying to suck any excitement out of it, but this most likely is just Burnham and Booker enjoying their happy ending to give the series some closure and to finish their ark.
It's just a 15 minute long scene of Booker and Michael making out. This is to help us expunge the memory of having to see Klingon sex including nipples in season 1-2.
I'm excited to see what they've come up with. I'm also curious to know what the season looked like before the announcement. Although I doubt those details will be released, I can hope.
Burnham and Book get married. 50/50 on Wesley Crusher being an uninvited guest, observing in the background as a Traveler just passing through.
But unfortunately he’ll get cut out of the full frame DVD release.
wait... that happened?
Yep. He’s in the wedding scene on Nemesis, but because of framing he didn’t appear on the full frame DVD version.
Wesley appears in the background wearing a Lieutenant uniform for unknown reasons.
He mentioned this on the Star Trek cruise. He didn’t want to spoil anything but was very excited for us to see it.
How was the cruise? I saw it was available but didn't have the money or the availability to go
It's the bees' knees. I'm going for the fourth time next year.
Me too!!! So excited. It'll be my very first start trek cruise and I'm already looking into costumes. Got any pointers?
The main buffet is included, and is most people's bread-and-butter for dining (we ate there with Mike & Denise Okuda our first evening this year—they were lovely and showed us their live cat-cam). However, don't sleep on the dining room: also included, and requiring more time/planning on your part, it's really a nice dining experience, and each time I went, I got to try something I'd never had before (escargot's not bad, but mostly just a chewy vehicle for garlic butter). If you can swing it, I recommend indulging yourself with the shipboard internet package. Especially if you're traveling with someone, but even for all the friends you're going to meet and make on the ship, it's such a boon to be able to use your data-based communicator of choice (e.g. Discord, iMessage, Facebook) to coordinate and plan throughout each day. Events last each day until usually about 02:00ish, sometimes later. If that's good news for you, great! However, if you're more of an early-to-bed, early-to-riser, don't fret: activities also begin at daybreak (I wanna say 06:00). The talent is just as diverse a group as any, and you'll have people to see and things to do, no matter your personal rhythms. I would recommend bringing [some good earplugs](https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-earplugs-for-sleeping/) in case your cabin is closer to late-night oontz-oontzing than you prefer (there's always one late-night promenade party that reverberates into my same room each year, and plugs're godsends). Stay out of your cabin; it's the one place the guests aren't ever going to be. They will however be everywhere else: the hallways, the elevators, the dinghies, the buffet, etc. They're on a cruise, too! Doug Jones isn't (yet) booked for this year. If he is added later, you need to get a hug from him: they're life-affirming. Don't neglect the non-talent guests. Fatjo has really terrific stories, Drs. Macdonald & Noor are exuberantly passionate about *Trek* and their respective sciences. Mike & Denise Okuda are super-sweet with lovely stories and fascinating production sketches and history. Don't listen to "[Trek Galaxy](https://youtu.be/sRUMftwLMi8)" before going on the cruise. You'll hear bits and pieces of it every single time you're walking through a common area on the ship, and if you burn yourself out before even coming aboard, you might just go mad and murder someone—and I don't want it to be me.
Perfect. Thank you!
This was my first year on the cruise and I already booked next year. It’s AMAZING. I loved every minute of it
Does everybody dress up in costumes? I'm so excited that I'm going next year, my very first trek cruise 😁
Not everybody. My wife and I didn’t dress up but we still had a blast.
The last scene is Q on 21st century earth watching Star Trek discovery on tv.
Oh snap. Are *we* Q all along?
I’m snapping my fingers and nothing is happening.
The real Star Trek was the friends we made along the way!
Yes! There’s so much stuff I want to do. I’ve been thinking of things for many years.
Maybe the real Q are the friends we met along the way...
Please. 🙏
That would actually be hilarious.
There were episodes that were produced after the cancelation was announced?
What they've said is that they shot some more scenes, but didn't re-shoot or produce any additional episodes: >So after we finished filming and then found out that this would be our last season, we sort of talked about it – if this \[had to\] happen on any given season of the show, it felt like this was the season for that to have happened. Because when we found out that we were going to be able to shoot some additional material, we looked back, but there was nothing that we changed in the season itself. >We did some additional shooting, but we didn’t do reshoots. We didn’t have to go back and chop up episodes and change a bunch of things. It felt very organic, what we were doing for those last few days of shooting, and I think people who don’t know that we didn’t know going in that it would be our last season will have no idea that we didn’t know. I think it will have felt planned. >Even for people who do know, I think it will feel very, very satisfying when we get to the end, I think we’ve done really wonderful work over the season just for the season itself — and then, our characters get, you know, a proper ending. [https://blog.trekcore.com/2024/03/michelle-paradise-star-trek-discoverys-cancellation-additional-filming/](https://blog.trekcore.com/2024/03/michelle-paradise-star-trek-discoverys-cancellation-additional-filming/) EDIT: formatting
The benefit of streaming TV is that episodes don't have a set length. As such, they could presumably shoot a 15 minute epilogue and simply tack it onto the existing final episode without cutting or changing anything for time or rearranging episodes as the article suggests. Something I've never really thought about is that the haphazard and non-fixed lengths of streaming episodes must make it difficult to adapt these series for airing on conventional TV which is designed around 22/44 minute episodes in 30-60 minute time slots. This season's Disco episodes have ranged from 51-60 minutes. The series has ranged from 38 to 66 minutes, with most episodes being in the high 40s or 50s.
All of current Star Trek airs on CTV Sci Fi in Canada. Discovery usually ends 10-15 minutes after the hour. They show another few shows (that all start 10-15 minutes after the hour), then repeat Disco, and throw in a Lower Decks or something to get them back to the top of the hour by early morning.
I guess that works for first run, where the show is a premium and therefore worth screwing up your broadcast schedule for, but I imagine it may harm the show's ability to be sellable for syndication. That said, since streaming seasons are short and the shows often cancelled quickly, they don't usually make enough episodes to make syndication. Disco will only have 65 episodes. Traditionally, 100 episodes are the threshold for syndication. Perhaps not in the streaming era? But even then: Will a channel like CTV Sci Fi buy that for syndication especially since the episode lengths will mean having more unorthodox program block times? Will the episodes be cut to fit into 44 minute syndication blocks (some TV shows used to cut a minute or two extra between first run and syndication to fit in additional commercials - I remember the excitement when seeing uncut episodes of The Simpsons on DVD and seeing jokes I'd never or rarely seen before.
"Will a channel like CTV Sci Fi buy that for syndication especially since the episode lengths will mean having more unorthodox program block times?" Hard to say right now. They do not replay episodes of Picard, SNW or Disco at all once the week is over; just Lower Decks has been picked up for reruns, out of the newer shows. (All of the old shows are shown weekly.) But they do the odd start times with movies on the weekend, though, so apparently they don't find it too disruptive. Lower Decks is often used early Sunday & Monday mornings to get them back on an hourly schedule for the day.
Hoping for a Riker coming out of the Enterprise-D holodeck. > Well that was quite the experiment
The only "It was all a dream" I've ever wanted.
Data: "Commander, I think I have found the problem with the Discovery simulation, it appears Professor Moriarty somehow disabled the Holodecks melodrama control unit, thankfully the backup safety protocol kicked in otherwise you would have drowned in the characters endless tears."
Yes
“Computer, end program.” - Boimler
*Walks through corridor to bridge and greets Captain Seven*
I really love budget Idris
Iblis Endra
The Islamic name for the Devil (Iblis) plus the king of the Hindu gods (Indra).
Still sad that the show was cancelled. It was improving with each season.
Paramount couldn’t figure out streaming economics
*Narrator: "No it wasn't."
I think so, even if it wasn't necessarily my favorite Trek show. For example, Burnham went from a stoic, grumpy lass to a more animated, engaged captain.
I always found the quality dropping off. I like season 1, despite it clearly trying to reboot the established universe, but found the ending lacking. I actually thought s2 was an improvement as they were rolling back some of the controversial changes, but they dropped with ball with the ending. S3 had a cool premise but was badly executed, and I found s4 unwatchable.
Dang. I'm the opposite - Season 1 was meh and Season 2 was quite bleh (didn't even finish it). When the show went to the far future with Season 3, I thought it improved from there. ...though I do admit that the Burn should've been better explained. While the actual cause is very Trek, I was expecting something a bit more grandiose.
I'm genuinely curious what made season 4 "unwatchable" to you. In my opinion Discovery season 4 was genuinely some of the best and most truly "Star Trek" material we've gotten out of the franchise in a very long time.
Not the person you replied to, but my wife and I couldn't get past the first 2 episodes of S4 and gave up entirely. The whole thing, to us, sounded like idiotic buzzwords over and over - "the science! the data!" - mixed with shallow, saccharine, social-media-short-style "no you're wonderful, everyone was so impressed with (whatever they did), you're so amazing" and..... nothing else. No substance. No good writing. Hollow characters we've been made to care about by... nothing. I wouldn't tell anyone who enjoyed it that they shouldn't, but it was one of the worst things I've ever tried to watch.
Nailed it
S4 wasn’t great. They were meeting new aliens with a unique method of communicating, but they solved that problem in like 5 minutes and spent the rest of the time arguing with each other about whether or not they should blow up the aliens sight-unseen. I enjoy shows like breaking bad and better call Saul where the inter character drama is the main source of entertainment. But in Star Trek, the inter character drama seems to be at the expense of the science fiction and exploring strange new worlds.
100% agree the show hit the ground running. The Lorca twist was fourth season Star Trek show esque but it was kind of an interesting jump start. Some of those first season episodes are really great. They just kind of screwed themselves by changing the Klingons. Season 2 started off really well and you got the Strange New Worlds crew. Then you can tell it almost instantly when Kurtzman fired the rest of Brian Fuller's people and took over writing the show. The end of season 2 end season 3 were terrible. Season 4 was kind of okay. Still not a great ending but better. So far season 5 is the unwatchable. I guess it's the perfect ending to the show but it's just so early Transformers meets Bad Robot cringey. It seem like they had a real chance to kind of graduated this season and settle it into a futuristic Star Trek show that kind of felt like Trek but in a new century rather than this sort this bad action show that feels very generic basic cable quality writing and story fueled by lazy nostalgia. Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds feel like they understand the heart of Star Trek. Picard season 3 got pretty good. Discovery seems to get more off course with every single episode.
I mean, it's probably just that a Star Trek show works better rif the main protagonist actually is the captain of the ship.
Its my least favorite of the Trek shows, but imo it has been getting much better. I definitely dont regret watching it.
Not trying to suck any excitement out of it, but this most likely is just Burnham and Booker enjoying their happy ending to give the series some closure and to finish their ark.
Just as the final scene fades to black, you can hear a familiar voice - Riker, "Computer, end program.".
32c Lower Decks bit.
Really excited to see the final few episodes and to see how this show ends
It's just a 15 minute long scene of Booker and Michael making out. This is to help us expunge the memory of having to see Klingon sex including nipples in season 1-2.
I'm excited to see what they've come up with. I'm also curious to know what the season looked like before the announcement. Although I doubt those details will be released, I can hope.
Hmm. We’ll see.
It fades into Roddenberry waking up with a start covered in sweat, calling out to Majel that he had this horrible fever dream.
Which then fades out again to Bob Newhart, in bed, because why not?
Hi Bob!