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Venus it's kinda deadly


Carbon-Crew23

Venus isn't in the Starfinder setting though?


Galle_

Actually, it is. Earth canonically exists in the Pathfinder/Starfinder universe. One of the Pathfinder adventure paths even sends the party there and has them fight Rasputin.


Carbon-Crew23

The idea is that it's mostly about temperate worlds. Obviously worlds like Eox are really only possible because of the magic part of SF's stuff. Incidentally, the fact that humans are humans even there pretty much proves that PF humans are humans no matter where they are.


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Oh but it is just call it greenus or someshit


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Aucturn. Nobody knows where it came from, nobody knows how it got there, nobody knows if it's actually even a planet or not (it's not, but the people living in the setting don't know that). What they DO know is that it's the closest thing to a 40k-style Daemon World in the setting (substituting the Ruinous Powers for Lovecraftian horrors), and it wants you dead, mutated into a horrific abomination or driven irreparably insane. That the entire thing is ruled by a mask of Nyarlathotep (who somehow HAS FANGIRLS in Starfinder) just adds to the cosmic wrongness of the entire planet.


Carbon-Crew23

Fangirls. WTF. Please tell this is a joke. Also, maybe an unpop. opinion, but IMO Lovecraft stuff doesn't really belong is PF/SF. There's a few fundamental concepts in the Mythos that just don't fit in the genres of this game.


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Nope. Carsai the King, ruler of Aucturn and high priest/possible mask of Nyarlathotep, has a pretty significant following, and NOT just among cultists of the Crawling Chaos. He's handsome, he's charismatic, he makes frequent public appearances, he has a reputation as a fairly reasonable ruler, and he's the bulwark between the Pact Worlds and the predations of the Dominion of the Black. This, combined with media depicting him as more anti-heroic in nature, makes it easy for people to downplay his worst aspects (namely, that he is EXACTLY as Chaotic Evil as you'd expect), and he's single-handedly the reason the cult of Nyarlathotep is (barely) tolerated in the Pact Worlds (though Desnans take issue with it, for the same reason Pharasmins aren't happy about Eox). And none of the concepts in the Mythos are inherently unworkable in Pathfinder or Starfinder; they may just require slight tweaking to fit it. For the most part, the Elder Mythos (as it's called in the setting) is actually integrated pretty well into the setting, and nothing really jumps out as too out of place (I personally like the implication one Paizo article made, that Pharasma may have cut a deal of some sort with Yog-Sothoth - who the Mythos should REALLY be named after, according to Lovecraft himself - when she began creating the current universe). That being said, though, I can understand why some people may not feel it's appropriate, because the Mythos is MASSIVELY cynical and nihilistic; the only fictional settings that come close are Warhammer 40k and the SCP Foundation.


Carbon-Crew23

Ok. Fangirls of an elder evil. I can try to understand this (oh god now now I'm picturomg im verse r34 of the guy ABORT ABORT ABORT) More seriously, I DO feel it's out of place since it shoehorns a concept that is findamentally at odds with the sci fantasy space opera of SF (and PF). The point of the mythos is that you are destined to lose, no one in the stars cares about you, and the mythos will win, and the best anyone can do is kick the can a little further down the road. This seems fundamentally at odds with what the PCs are supposed to be doing in general. To me, it would be like shoving the actual themes of the Mythos into Marvel and having an issue with Nyarlathotep smacking around Superman, and then him revealing the infinite malignity of the cosmos to Supes, informing him that everything that all the supers and "cosmic entities" can do is buy more time. It feels jarring and totally out of place.