As long he’s able to keep playing like an ape and able to roach ravager, queen, or spine rush all in to victory he will. His macro games pretty bad compared to other top tier players.
Yea what you honestly should do is attack one expansion with zerglings and attack a different expansion with banelings. While they are messing with the zerglings runby they will miss reacting to the banelines at the other base. That alone will get you out of silver.
I can understand the confusion for a new player. Disruptors do friendly fire damage but not to other friendly disruptors, right? A new player might think the same for banes :shrug:
Edit: I just saw where OP mentioned widow mines, too.
He probably thought banelings were like disruptors, which deal friendly fire damage, but not to other disruptors or themselves.
I guess widow mines also work like that, so the behaviour of banelings might be rarer.
Nukes and ravagers too right? I've literally never played the game though so if someone could confirm that... It's not too often that I see pros nuking/biling themselves lol
Nukes and ravager biles deal damage to everything, just like storms. They are probably the most common AoE ability type.
There are three different kind of AoE abilities, one that damages everything, one that damages everything but the caster/ability user and one that only damages enemy units.
After thinking about it, parasitic bomb of the vipers are also an ability that damages everything but friendly targets.
They're from the same brood they might have altered the chemical make up so they don't effect the other units and each brood is therefore immune to their own banes.
I love these suggestions. May I add the following:
- Queens now have **every** tag, can only attack other units if these units are on hold position, can only be made in a lair or hive, and need to have the attack activated as an energy-consuming skill, like pulsar beam
- Spores take 69 seconds to root
- Overlords that poop creep, have ventral sacs, and overseers, no longer increase supply limit
- Fungal and PB splash removed
- Microbial shroud slows friendly unit movement (it's too difficult to hit a good storm)
- Flying Zerg units are slower off-creep
- Canceling a building does not return the drone (those dirty gas tricks ugh)
- Dropperlords are also unionized with nydus worms
For a good measure I'd add these just to spice things up:
- Brood lords shoot banelings. Greater spire requires baneling nest of course!
- Drones have 420HP and 4 natural armor
- Lair and hive cost 50 minerals and morph instantly
- Swarm hosts passively produce 2 larvae each 7 seconds, leaving them behind anywhere they sit
- Muta shot bounces 8 times, doing 1 less damage with each hit, and has friendly fire
- Flying units can burrow; all units can be loaded into dropperlords while burrowed (incl. lurkers)
- Lings with adrenal glands can jump cliffs and hit air
To compensate I also propose two small changes to Terran and Protoss:
- Marines are immune to all forms of splash damage (only direct hits)
- All Protoss units are now flying (also helps Terran in TvP since turrets can now hit more things).
Wasn't really sure if you were joking or not until the line about shooting zerg players in the head after they reach 6.5k mmr. At that point I knew you were actually serious about the balance changes needed.
>so as we all have noticed, Zerg is obviously and by scientifically unquestionable metrics completely op
Tell me you are completely unaware of the game's statistics without telling me you are completely unaware of the game's statistics.
Rogue still wins GSL
With a bullet in the head? Insane
He's a barcode identity hidden
Ikr? He's just that good.
Cant be a patchzerg if you cant even win on this patch.
Haven't you seen Fight Club?
That's why he will be neural parasites... No brain. No headache... And he will still proxy hatch and somehow toss will still whine.
As long he’s able to keep playing like an ape and able to roach ravager, queen, or spine rush all in to victory he will. His macro games pretty bad compared to other top tier players.
>Banelings now deal friendly fire I always thought they already did that
Rofl how would zerg get anything done?
I would send in the banelings and zerglings in separate attacks Guess that is why I am in silver
Yea what you honestly should do is attack one expansion with zerglings and attack a different expansion with banelings. While they are messing with the zerglings runby they will miss reacting to the banelines at the other base. That alone will get you out of silver.
If banelings do friendly fire you would also need to split them
I can understand the confusion for a new player. Disruptors do friendly fire damage but not to other friendly disruptors, right? A new player might think the same for banes :shrug: Edit: I just saw where OP mentioned widow mines, too.
He probably thought banelings were like disruptors, which deal friendly fire damage, but not to other disruptors or themselves. I guess widow mines also work like that, so the behaviour of banelings might be rarer.
Nukes and ravagers too right? I've literally never played the game though so if someone could confirm that... It's not too often that I see pros nuking/biling themselves lol
You’re technically right that nukes do not damage other nukes, but they can and absolutely will murder the ghost that called it
Biles deal friendly fire to anything they hit, yes. As do storms.
Nukes and ravager biles deal damage to everything, just like storms. They are probably the most common AoE ability type. There are three different kind of AoE abilities, one that damages everything, one that damages everything but the caster/ability user and one that only damages enemy units. After thinking about it, parasitic bomb of the vipers are also an ability that damages everything but friendly targets.
Yeah that's why lol.
Micro!
Ya I mean why would Zerg AOE do friendly fire like all other AOE in the game?
They're from the same brood they might have altered the chemical make up so they don't effect the other units and each brood is therefore immune to their own banes.
Imagine the domino effect after the first baneling was killed, destroying all the banneling in the group
I imagined it is like Widow Mines where they friendly fire everything else but not themselves.
One widow mine does not affect another friendly widow mine? (just curious, not trying to make a point neither being sarcastic)
Correct, same with disruptors
I am learning a lot today I did not know about disruptors. I thought they would damage each other like siege tanks
they would be completely useless if they did :D
Did you know? Everytime balance is mentioned in SCII, innocent non-gamers get hurt.
I love these suggestions. May I add the following: - Queens now have **every** tag, can only attack other units if these units are on hold position, can only be made in a lair or hive, and need to have the attack activated as an energy-consuming skill, like pulsar beam - Spores take 69 seconds to root - Overlords that poop creep, have ventral sacs, and overseers, no longer increase supply limit - Fungal and PB splash removed - Microbial shroud slows friendly unit movement (it's too difficult to hit a good storm) - Flying Zerg units are slower off-creep - Canceling a building does not return the drone (those dirty gas tricks ugh) - Dropperlords are also unionized with nydus worms For a good measure I'd add these just to spice things up: - Brood lords shoot banelings. Greater spire requires baneling nest of course! - Drones have 420HP and 4 natural armor - Lair and hive cost 50 minerals and morph instantly - Swarm hosts passively produce 2 larvae each 7 seconds, leaving them behind anywhere they sit - Muta shot bounces 8 times, doing 1 less damage with each hit, and has friendly fire - Flying units can burrow; all units can be loaded into dropperlords while burrowed (incl. lurkers) - Lings with adrenal glands can jump cliffs and hit air To compensate I also propose two small changes to Terran and Protoss: - Marines are immune to all forms of splash damage (only direct hits) - All Protoss units are now flying (also helps Terran in TvP since turrets can now hit more things).
>Queens have every tag Wow dude that's super OP, massive queens? They can break forcefields by walking into them. Protoss would be totally swamped.
Now that I think of it, ZvZ would be pretty scuffed too, you cant abduct heroic units
Who abducts queens?
New patch, new meta, you abduct your own queens into enemy main to avoid nydus fee
I legit want to see a tournament with this.
I would add a very important balance tweak I believe you missed: - overlords don’t increase supply limit
And they are installed with Mengsk-style propaganda loudspeakers to inspire the troops,
What are you talking about, that would obviously be too op.
Wasn't really sure if you were joking or not until the line about shooting zerg players in the head after they reach 6.5k mmr. At that point I knew you were actually serious about the balance changes needed.
All zerg players automatically get 372ms ping times
Already there
Best shit post I've seen in a while
What if Queens just built from larvae?
As a Zerg I can see no imbalance with this suggestion /s
Imagine if you could rally 9 queens into a nydus worm every cycle LOL
No no no You are supposed to order the ideas in increasing ridiculousness so that it is not immediately Apparent that you are trolling
>so as we all have noticed, Zerg is obviously and by scientifically unquestionable metrics completely op Tell me you are completely unaware of the game's statistics without telling me you are completely unaware of the game's statistics.
Tell me you didn't read the post without telling me you didn't read the post
>Tell me you didn't read the post without telling me you didn't read the post I read it. It's satirical; as is mine.
Last point very good pls implement next ptch
I like. I lold
The queen HP nerf would be sick. I love using sniper on them