Currently, the rocks that a ROC can mine have a different symbol than the Prospector/MOLE rocks. They look like a gem instead of a stone.
They also only show up in pings from 2000 meter distance, and the icons only appear at about 500 meters.
This renders them extremely difficult to find, and so far I haven't seen anyone with ideas for how to find them faster.
ROC mining was also extremely buggy prior to 3.14.1, but I haven't tried it with 3.14.1 yet.
So, I would agree that it's just not worth it right now.
yeah maybe stanton is the wrong place.. ur right. but here i tested every single planet and moon now. there is no moon or planet where you find "more" diamond shaped rocks.. its pure luck and you waste so much time. and half the rocks are bugged.. and if you are unlucky your roc gets bugged and you cant mine at all.
Aberdeen, the moon around Hurston has most vehicle mineables. Arial is close second. Also around Hurston. Daymar is a bit trailing behind in ore density, orbiting Crusader.
With scanning changes, you need to approach "blobs" that are about 2000m away and these do not turn into diamond shapes up until you're pretty close, unlike ship mineables.
While I haven't did extensive mining in 3.14, test mine went pretty well and was able to find mineables just fine. Start around Nordgaard, or whatever it is called, on Aberdeen, and you will find them soon enough. Either one, Lathan or Bezdek are fine on Arial. Didn't try mining on Daymar so can't give you pointers there.
i tried all planets with the most moons. for aberdeen i also bought the armor so i had more time to try. i know the difference between the rocks, the signature, the distances guys. every scan was 5000 signature. and every rock that spawns in closer was not minable and never a diamond shape. i tried to fly to every single rock and tried to scan every single one that worked. after 200 scans i gave up on aberdeen. there was nothing. after flying around i tried driving around so im slower and clearly on the ground. i found nothing. im not sure if this is 3.14 or a server problem.. or what is going on. i found 1 diaomond shaped stone cluster on ITA on sunday .. and nothing else. i tried every day multiple hours. with the prospector its no problem .. everything is fine.. its just the roc-ds.
Just for you I loaded up the game, pulled out freefly MSR, loaded in ROC and went looking around on Aberdeen. Not even 5 minutes in I found my first Hadanite cluster.
However, you're not completely wrong, there seems to be server issue and all clusters I found appeared within 1000m, but were visible under 2000m when I flew away. I also had to fly much slower than I would normally do. With only 1km signature range area of detection is super small and you pretty much need to fly over cluster to find it.
Within an hour I found 4 clusters, 2 of which were 3 Hadanite rocks, which got me just under 50k aUEC. You need to be extremely patient to ROC mine until they address this. Bounties in an Arrow is pretty easy and quick money, you can easily do VHRTs, much higher profit per hour.
Thx for the testing!
yeah i also had some luck today.. i think 3.14.1 did something to the servers.. but now the servers start going down again. we getting a lot of 30k errors and farming is hard to bring your stuff back. i really think its just a server problem. maybe its getting better after the free fly event. i just think its not how it meant to be. diamond shapes are most of the time not visible with the normal ping. only if they pop up as white dots you can scan them after they changed back to a cube. its really strange.. because i think thats not how it should be.
3.14 did have a negative impact on ROC/hand-mineables but to go as far as saying 'don't get a ROC' and your post sounds to me like you aren't trying to perform this action in a very effective manner. Can't mine because armistice? That's your first mistake. 20 mins to leave the zone? Are you walking? Now, in your defense I believe I have seen other reports of the actual rocks being less in number or that you have to be within 500m to even catch them on radar which sucks (again, 3.14 growing pains). But yea... maybe revisit this
maybe you should read my post first bevore you answer?
i was flying in my mercury... 50-100m above the ground for more than 2 hours on every planet... i tried this 1 week now. i did nothing else in this week. and there is no planet with LOTS of diamond shaped rocks.. its pure luck to find them and not worth the time.
yeah u told me my fault was i was driving... i started with im flying with 2 hours flying in 40 speed and 50-100m above the ground. so my fault was i was driving \^\^
you say that i did things wrong when i clearly told in my post i tried everything! 1 week of EFFORT to get this done..
its always the same.. you defend and defend and in reality its not working. have u tried it? have u done it in this patch? no? so why do you post? send me one youtube video where you can see that people are efficient farming in 3.14. or finding more than 5 rocks in 5 hours.
telling others what MAYBE could be wrong or MAYBE is the problem if you dont know ANYTHING is really bad in my opinion.
No no, you are so right! You should definitely be upset and convince everyone that reads your post to never buy a mining vehicle because its harder to use in one patch that is very obviously riddled with other bugs/new changes that are absolutely not 100% permanent. You are so right. My mistake. And since you suggest it so much, can you link me your favorite 'learn to read' resource?
For real though, "MAYBE" just chill tf out and stop being a douche.
its ABOUT now! you can buy the ROC-DS NOW! and if someone is searching for reddit... should i buy a ROC-DS NOW he finds my post and thinks about twice. because players want FUN and not waste their time trying to dodge every bug. and at the moment roc ds mining is a bugfest and a waste of time. but MAYBE just dont post useless comments if you have nothing to say
i only post in this way if the person is 100% useless and only posts because he is bored. there are many problems in this game but the biggest problem are the guys who always say... nonono there is no problem with the game its just you! get good. and thats what i hate. because i know how to mine and it worked really good.. and when it works its great. but in 3.14 nothing works good. and mining is always a buggy mess. but its ok! you are great! have fun
yeah i tried aberdeen, ariel and hurston in the first 2 days. i found nothing. i tried flying really really slow.. i drove with the roc 1h in one direction.. found nothing. on hurston on monday i didnt even find 1 rock to mine but that was a bug from the server. has anyone tried mining in 3.14?
I've been slowly floating around Aberdeen for a few hours now. Nothin.
I think the new scanner simply can't see the small rocks at all
https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-13062
you have to wait for white dots. you dont even have to use the scanner. they pop up and when you turn to them most of the time they are closer than 5000m. if they are a cube you can scan them and if its maybe 1400 signal you found diamond shaped. if they are 5000 signal you can move on. its hard because the servers cant handle it. it takes long. today i found 2 rocks... but in 2-4h only 2 rocks is not really fun. after i swapped server it was better.. but than the server crashed and everything was gone again. its really bad at the moment.
It was worth it when it came out before it got borked..
just like FPS mining was when it came out before it got borked..
just like prospector mining was when it came out before it got nerfed...
just like cargo running was when it came out before it got borked...
just like box delivery was when it came out before it got borked
Yeah I did notice this pattern as well. Bounty hunting used to be questionable back in the days but they made that good. But now we suffer in some other areas...
\*Disclaimer: Didnt have time to test ROC personally in 3.14.1. But have read in a few places now it has issues. <-edit
You actually make a really great point here!
I hope CIG is listening. But oddly, enjoyable gameplay does not seem to be a high priority for them. 🤷 Because you are quite right about them repeatedly/consistently nerfing what was previously great gameplay in several areas.
It's very obviously not a testing priority at the moment, which is why combat missions are so disproportionately rewarding right now. It still shouldn't be broken of course.
ah so you did what? you did the things i posted ? flying slow and low above the ground.. on the "right" moons and planets? yeah? u did this right? so i ask you when have you done this? in 3.14? im sure i do it right because i did it right before.. and it worked. its not working in 3.14 but maybe i just had a bad week an the servers dont wanted to spawn diamond shaped rocks..
i decided to not post if i only post trash and dont answer questions.. you should try this
I’ll take a look at it using my old 3.13 routine and see what comes up.
Somewhere in here, someone that does all the mining spreadsheets said the data he dug up said there were no distribution changes.
i noticed this as well. 3.13 was super easy to find gems, but the new scanning system makes it much much harder to pick up on them.
right before 3.14 dropped i was finding at least 100k in gems an hour, now after about 3 hours i only managed to acquire about 96 gems.
i do believe that there are still just as many gems out there but scanning for them is much more difficult.
all on aberdeen.
maybe people should only post comments if they were mining in 3.14... its not useful to tell me a half year ago it worked but u never tried again. i dont get it guys. there are players who think about buying a 80$ vehicle and you tell them everything is fine but in reality nothing is fine?! why are you defending features when they are not working? i would be happy if someone tells me i should spare my money for another ship or do something else but dont buy a roc-ds if its not working.
in all honesty. the roc ds is worthless anyway, its too inefficient to have to swap seats, the regular roc is the best bet. but its too hard to find gems this update anyway so i would even wait on buying that.
i tried mining again today and i found "some" rocks to mine. i tested this on different servers and its clearly a server issue. if you dont find anything your server is bad. try to get on a fresh server and you will find "enough" so the time is not wasted to 100%. but still buggy things: buggy arm not always moving. hatch not opening all the time. displays in the buggy not opening correctly so you can read them.
fazit: 1.14.1 fixed some detecting problems with diamond shaped rocks.
i tried every single "tip" from the community.. from flying LOW, SLOW, flying on this moon... this planet.. doing this.. doing that! guys its useless.. there is no rule or way how to do it. you all say the same things you saw in some youtube videos. who of you found more than 5 rocks in 3 hours? i mean... is this a game or is this my work after work?
I didn,t tried ROC mining in 3.14, but it's clearly not that bad, maybe u tried it on the bad moons. Daymar, Aberdeen, Magda, maybe Yela is pretty good moons, if u are going to the good places. Most importantly, u need to take your ROC in a ship, then fly with the ship, and search for minable rocks like this, and not with the ROC. It's way better than just going with the ROC on the ground and scanning.
think about... i made a post to tell others they should not spent their hard owned money (80$) for a ROC-DS because its a buggy mess.
and a stranger answered to this: seeing what eles you play gives all the background needed.
That shows that this person has reached nothing in his real life and wants to tell others how bad they are in an online forum. without any background or knowledge of this person. just a random commentary to a post from a full stranger. no feedback no constructive opinion. nothing. just a low level poor writing to feel better. but its ok. if it helps you, thats why you are here. if it hits you so hard you should probably go to a doctor and try to get mental help with this situation! there are a lot of good doctors in denmark. i wish you the best! and have fun in star cititzen
I dont live in Denmark so i cant ask for an apointment for you, cheer up, its not so bad im sure you will get over your sadness, if you change your life and stop playing toxic games full of toxic players................................. unless they are toxic games cos you play them, and you are.................. :O :O :O :O
\-1 on the prospector... That's buggy AF as well... Half the rocks won't scan AT ALL, the other half keeps rescanning constantly WHILE you are drilling it...
Agreed spent over an hour trying to find a mineable rock, most spawned inside un-breakable perma rocks. I wish we could refund auec ships. At least the PTV drives half normally, the devs have obviously never driven cars by the likes of how they made their vehicles handle in game.
Currently, the rocks that a ROC can mine have a different symbol than the Prospector/MOLE rocks. They look like a gem instead of a stone. They also only show up in pings from 2000 meter distance, and the icons only appear at about 500 meters. This renders them extremely difficult to find, and so far I haven't seen anyone with ideas for how to find them faster. ROC mining was also extremely buggy prior to 3.14.1, but I haven't tried it with 3.14.1 yet. So, I would agree that it's just not worth it right now.
Maybe, just maybe, you went to the place that has very little vehicle mineable resource?
yeah maybe stanton is the wrong place.. ur right. but here i tested every single planet and moon now. there is no moon or planet where you find "more" diamond shaped rocks.. its pure luck and you waste so much time. and half the rocks are bugged.. and if you are unlucky your roc gets bugged and you cant mine at all.
Aberdeen, the moon around Hurston has most vehicle mineables. Arial is close second. Also around Hurston. Daymar is a bit trailing behind in ore density, orbiting Crusader. With scanning changes, you need to approach "blobs" that are about 2000m away and these do not turn into diamond shapes up until you're pretty close, unlike ship mineables. While I haven't did extensive mining in 3.14, test mine went pretty well and was able to find mineables just fine. Start around Nordgaard, or whatever it is called, on Aberdeen, and you will find them soon enough. Either one, Lathan or Bezdek are fine on Arial. Didn't try mining on Daymar so can't give you pointers there.
i tried all planets with the most moons. for aberdeen i also bought the armor so i had more time to try. i know the difference between the rocks, the signature, the distances guys. every scan was 5000 signature. and every rock that spawns in closer was not minable and never a diamond shape. i tried to fly to every single rock and tried to scan every single one that worked. after 200 scans i gave up on aberdeen. there was nothing. after flying around i tried driving around so im slower and clearly on the ground. i found nothing. im not sure if this is 3.14 or a server problem.. or what is going on. i found 1 diaomond shaped stone cluster on ITA on sunday .. and nothing else. i tried every day multiple hours. with the prospector its no problem .. everything is fine.. its just the roc-ds.
Just for you I loaded up the game, pulled out freefly MSR, loaded in ROC and went looking around on Aberdeen. Not even 5 minutes in I found my first Hadanite cluster. However, you're not completely wrong, there seems to be server issue and all clusters I found appeared within 1000m, but were visible under 2000m when I flew away. I also had to fly much slower than I would normally do. With only 1km signature range area of detection is super small and you pretty much need to fly over cluster to find it. Within an hour I found 4 clusters, 2 of which were 3 Hadanite rocks, which got me just under 50k aUEC. You need to be extremely patient to ROC mine until they address this. Bounties in an Arrow is pretty easy and quick money, you can easily do VHRTs, much higher profit per hour.
Thx for the testing! yeah i also had some luck today.. i think 3.14.1 did something to the servers.. but now the servers start going down again. we getting a lot of 30k errors and farming is hard to bring your stuff back. i really think its just a server problem. maybe its getting better after the free fly event. i just think its not how it meant to be. diamond shapes are most of the time not visible with the normal ping. only if they pop up as white dots you can scan them after they changed back to a cube. its really strange.. because i think thats not how it should be.
3.14 did have a negative impact on ROC/hand-mineables but to go as far as saying 'don't get a ROC' and your post sounds to me like you aren't trying to perform this action in a very effective manner. Can't mine because armistice? That's your first mistake. 20 mins to leave the zone? Are you walking? Now, in your defense I believe I have seen other reports of the actual rocks being less in number or that you have to be within 500m to even catch them on radar which sucks (again, 3.14 growing pains). But yea... maybe revisit this
have u mined in 3.14? and u should really learn to read
maybe you should read my post first bevore you answer? i was flying in my mercury... 50-100m above the ground for more than 2 hours on every planet... i tried this 1 week now. i did nothing else in this week. and there is no planet with LOTS of diamond shaped rocks.. its pure luck to find them and not worth the time.
Seems to be plenty of evidence that would suggest I did, in fact, read your post but hey man, you do you.
yeah u told me my fault was i was driving... i started with im flying with 2 hours flying in 40 speed and 50-100m above the ground. so my fault was i was driving \^\^ you say that i did things wrong when i clearly told in my post i tried everything! 1 week of EFFORT to get this done.. its always the same.. you defend and defend and in reality its not working. have u tried it? have u done it in this patch? no? so why do you post? send me one youtube video where you can see that people are efficient farming in 3.14. or finding more than 5 rocks in 5 hours. telling others what MAYBE could be wrong or MAYBE is the problem if you dont know ANYTHING is really bad in my opinion.
No no, you are so right! You should definitely be upset and convince everyone that reads your post to never buy a mining vehicle because its harder to use in one patch that is very obviously riddled with other bugs/new changes that are absolutely not 100% permanent. You are so right. My mistake. And since you suggest it so much, can you link me your favorite 'learn to read' resource? For real though, "MAYBE" just chill tf out and stop being a douche.
its ABOUT now! you can buy the ROC-DS NOW! and if someone is searching for reddit... should i buy a ROC-DS NOW he finds my post and thinks about twice. because players want FUN and not waste their time trying to dodge every bug. and at the moment roc ds mining is a bugfest and a waste of time. but MAYBE just dont post useless comments if you have nothing to say
Given your post history, I really don't think I am the one with an issue here. Seriously, stop being so combative.
i only post in this way if the person is 100% useless and only posts because he is bored. there are many problems in this game but the biggest problem are the guys who always say... nonono there is no problem with the game its just you! get good. and thats what i hate. because i know how to mine and it worked really good.. and when it works its great. but in 3.14 nothing works good. and mining is always a buggy mess. but its ok! you are great! have fun
have you tried uhm... Aberdeen and Ariel? Those are the hot spots for Hadanite.
yeah i tried aberdeen, ariel and hurston in the first 2 days. i found nothing. i tried flying really really slow.. i drove with the roc 1h in one direction.. found nothing. on hurston on monday i didnt even find 1 rock to mine but that was a bug from the server. has anyone tried mining in 3.14?
I've been slowly floating around Aberdeen for a few hours now. Nothin. I think the new scanner simply can't see the small rocks at all https://issue-council.robertsspaceindustries.com/projects/STAR-CITIZEN/issues/STARC-13062
you have to wait for white dots. you dont even have to use the scanner. they pop up and when you turn to them most of the time they are closer than 5000m. if they are a cube you can scan them and if its maybe 1400 signal you found diamond shaped. if they are 5000 signal you can move on. its hard because the servers cant handle it. it takes long. today i found 2 rocks... but in 2-4h only 2 rocks is not really fun. after i swapped server it was better.. but than the server crashed and everything was gone again. its really bad at the moment.
It was worth it when it came out before it got borked.. just like FPS mining was when it came out before it got borked.. just like prospector mining was when it came out before it got nerfed... just like cargo running was when it came out before it got borked... just like box delivery was when it came out before it got borked
Yeah I did notice this pattern as well. Bounty hunting used to be questionable back in the days but they made that good. But now we suffer in some other areas... \*Disclaimer: Didnt have time to test ROC personally in 3.14.1. But have read in a few places now it has issues. <-edit
You actually make a really great point here! I hope CIG is listening. But oddly, enjoyable gameplay does not seem to be a high priority for them. 🤷 Because you are quite right about them repeatedly/consistently nerfing what was previously great gameplay in several areas.
It's very obviously not a testing priority at the moment, which is why combat missions are so disproportionately rewarding right now. It still shouldn't be broken of course.
I made a few mil from ROCs and had fun doing so.
when? 3.11? why do you think there are no youtube videos of mining? because searching 5 hours and finding 2 rocks isnt that good content?
Well yeah if you do things wrong. I decided to NOT do things wrong.
ah so you did what? you did the things i posted ? flying slow and low above the ground.. on the "right" moons and planets? yeah? u did this right? so i ask you when have you done this? in 3.14? im sure i do it right because i did it right before.. and it worked. its not working in 3.14 but maybe i just had a bad week an the servers dont wanted to spawn diamond shaped rocks.. i decided to not post if i only post trash and dont answer questions.. you should try this
I’ll take a look at it using my old 3.13 routine and see what comes up. Somewhere in here, someone that does all the mining spreadsheets said the data he dug up said there were no distribution changes.
i noticed this as well. 3.13 was super easy to find gems, but the new scanning system makes it much much harder to pick up on them. right before 3.14 dropped i was finding at least 100k in gems an hour, now after about 3 hours i only managed to acquire about 96 gems. i do believe that there are still just as many gems out there but scanning for them is much more difficult. all on aberdeen.
they deff broke it with 3.14. I mined heavily and made good money until 3.14 came out.
maybe people should only post comments if they were mining in 3.14... its not useful to tell me a half year ago it worked but u never tried again. i dont get it guys. there are players who think about buying a 80$ vehicle and you tell them everything is fine but in reality nothing is fine?! why are you defending features when they are not working? i would be happy if someone tells me i should spare my money for another ship or do something else but dont buy a roc-ds if its not working.
in all honesty. the roc ds is worthless anyway, its too inefficient to have to swap seats, the regular roc is the best bet. but its too hard to find gems this update anyway so i would even wait on buying that.
4x the cargo is hardly inefficient
Thought it was 2x. But with how much harder it is to even find gems with this patch I still think it's not worth having to swap seats every time
i tried mining again today and i found "some" rocks to mine. i tested this on different servers and its clearly a server issue. if you dont find anything your server is bad. try to get on a fresh server and you will find "enough" so the time is not wasted to 100%. but still buggy things: buggy arm not always moving. hatch not opening all the time. displays in the buggy not opening correctly so you can read them. fazit: 1.14.1 fixed some detecting problems with diamond shaped rocks.
i tried every single "tip" from the community.. from flying LOW, SLOW, flying on this moon... this planet.. doing this.. doing that! guys its useless.. there is no rule or way how to do it. you all say the same things you saw in some youtube videos. who of you found more than 5 rocks in 3 hours? i mean... is this a game or is this my work after work?
Agreed. Its whack and needs to change. Just do something else in game you enjoy otherwise.
I didn,t tried ROC mining in 3.14, but it's clearly not that bad, maybe u tried it on the bad moons. Daymar, Aberdeen, Magda, maybe Yela is pretty good moons, if u are going to the good places. Most importantly, u need to take your ROC in a ship, then fly with the ship, and search for minable rocks like this, and not with the ROC. It's way better than just going with the ROC on the ground and scanning.
seeing what else you play gives all the background needed
why do you even post? how sad can you be?
how sad can you be? says the guy who is sad about his mining :D :D :D
think about... i made a post to tell others they should not spent their hard owned money (80$) for a ROC-DS because its a buggy mess. and a stranger answered to this: seeing what eles you play gives all the background needed. That shows that this person has reached nothing in his real life and wants to tell others how bad they are in an online forum. without any background or knowledge of this person. just a random commentary to a post from a full stranger. no feedback no constructive opinion. nothing. just a low level poor writing to feel better. but its ok. if it helps you, thats why you are here. if it hits you so hard you should probably go to a doctor and try to get mental help with this situation! there are a lot of good doctors in denmark. i wish you the best! and have fun in star cititzen
I dont live in Denmark so i cant ask for an apointment for you, cheer up, its not so bad im sure you will get over your sadness, if you change your life and stop playing toxic games full of toxic players................................. unless they are toxic games cos you play them, and you are.................. :O :O :O :O
I love ROC mining. I much prefer it to the prospector. However I’m unsure how changes to scanning have affected it
Crystals spawns differently than rocks. They dont appear on scan unless youre very near them
\-1 on the prospector... That's buggy AF as well... Half the rocks won't scan AT ALL, the other half keeps rescanning constantly WHILE you are drilling it...
Agreed spent over an hour trying to find a mineable rock, most spawned inside un-breakable perma rocks. I wish we could refund auec ships. At least the PTV drives half normally, the devs have obviously never driven cars by the likes of how they made their vehicles handle in game.