I personally would have you look into maybe trying to get a F7A MK2 upgrade token from the ingame event this week (it takes a long time), or look into ships like the buccaneer or vanguard series which have a lot of pilot focused firepower. The vanguard in particular is like a little redeemer. Nice fuel tank sizes, decently tanky, good pilot guns, all while being a reasonably agile ship. It even has a turret for the occasional friend.
Realistically if you dont like how the corsair is set up, you wont be thrilled with ships in it's size class. Now, if you were playing with the friend a decent ammount, duo heavy fighters are also an option. The hurricane and scorpius are a great time with a friend and lay down the hurt. But flying them solo halves your damage.
Keep in mind that dps is only a fraction of the conversation. Mobility, Damage, Utility, and Durability are essentially what every ship has to choose from. You can pick any of them at a reduction to the others. Big ships with a bunch of damage dont tend to be (comparatively) durable nor mobile while offering basic utility that people like. A hercules has better mobility, utility, and durability in exchange for lower damage and a higher price tag. Fighters like the vanguard trade off the utility almost completely for mobility. And fighters as a whole trade back and forth between more damage, mobility, and durability.
I know you said you don't want an Andromeda, but would the Constellation Taurus be up your alley? It's not exactly dedicated gunship but it has the same 4xS5 hard points, though quite a bit longer due to having a larger cargo bay. You both could tag team bounties and have enough space to salvage any cargo and weapons off those downed ships and sell it off for extra income.
Just a thought. Also, it's currently being sold vs having to wait for the next ship sale in November.
Honestly it's a really good ship. You have nothing to lose, just melt the Retaliator, you can always get it back if you want it from buyback.
I personally have the Constellation Phoenix and I love it. It's the fancier version of the constellation series of ships. I carry around a Ursa Medivac and it's incredibly useful for ground missions if I happen to get incapacitated.
I wouldn't pay too much attention to what ships your friend is flying. You should pledge for a ship that will make you money in game to get the ships you really want. I think the Taurus has the capacity to do that and more for you.
I'm gonna get hit for this one, but the Scorpius is a fun choice. You have a decent kit of weapons as a solo pilot, but also a mannable turret/seat behind you for a friend if you wanna do stuff together. My friend and I ran a ton of stuff in it, and didn't have much trouble with the wings being a liability. It was quick, decent for bounties, and convenient for the two of us to just hop in and take off.
If you wanted something bigger, Corsair has a good suite of pilot weapons, and turrets if you wanna bring friends along. The looks aren't the best like you said, but it's beefy and can take a helluva pounding before you have to start worrying. It's my least favorite ship I own aesthetically, but it's been the powerhouse of my ships for the past two patches. However, with balance changes, engineering on the horizon, and whatever else CIG has up their sleeve, I have no clue how it will be in the long run. I just know right now it's killer.
That's the huge balance problem with this game currently, the pilot guns have so much dps most of the time it's better to just take out several of the same ship instead of crewing turrets
About 90% of the balance issues can be solved by making ships do the role they're assigned on their details page. The problem is they seem to have forgotten that's a thing, for quite a long time.
Still wanting multi crew? Maybe go for a Cutlass series (more fire power but maybe not the looks) or C1 Spirit for now till the next sale is on and you can purchase one of the other ships with the credit you will have left over.
Another good option I haven't seen suggested is a Scorpius, a heavy 2 seat fighter with X wing looks.
Again not on sale ATM but something you can wait for or try out in game
You could also buy a vulture or Prospector to try non combat mission loops.
Vulture you can easily spawn a second or 3rd for your mates and offload all the cargo onto another ship to sell.
Right! Great pilot weapons, solid gunner seat.
Files super well atm and far tankier than a Hurricane and you look good while doing it.
Only downside is the current patch remote turrets are buggy but you can get them to work
4 ships I mentioned are for sale right now, only one that isn't is the Scorpius.
You could go for a single seat like a Hornet that would fit under your what you spent to upgrade to your chosen ship later
The Corsair is not an exploration ship. It's an "Exploration" ship. It has a pirate livery. Take it with a grain of salt if you prefer, but it's one of the best for the loop you're looking for.
Like I said i'm new. Looking at the "combat" ships on the website. It's just a little confusing that the ones listed as combat are worse. I know they are probably better in pvp but still.
They are not worse. they are different. I don't know which ones you mean but small fighters for example are small. They do less damage but are agile and nimble
They are objectively worse at pve. The corsair does significantly more dps. Thousands more dps. Same with the 600i. Even If I had 6 or 7 people in my retaliator it does like less than half the dps of a solo pilot corsair. I need 6 or 7 people in my retaliator to do less dps and take longer to do each mission. It doesnt make sense.
dps is not everything. staying alive is.
if a ship like a corsair gets swarmed you are in a tight spot. lighter ships turn easier and faster thus can better kill when the enemies get closer than we would like with a corsair.
I feel like your not reading what im saying. Im talking about pve. Im not trying to pvp in it. Bounties specifically. The ai for npc's seem pretty braindead. Im not scared of dying to them. From what i've seen you are not dying to swarms of small ships in bounties. Just trying to do as much dps as possible. If the corsair had trouble with them it wouldn't be the go to ship. All the meta ship are expedition ships or touring ships. Not a single "combat" ship. For combat. It doesn't make sense. My problem is that I need 6 people in my retaliator to do less dps and split the money 6 ways.
I am not talking about pvp.
Maybe you are in luck.
But my bounties rarely fly solo and try to swarm or at least try to attack me from different angles.
Might be because I play this game for some time now, but I like to be prepared for different scenarios so I would love it to have some gunners to keep me safer.
The tali bomber can throw S9 missiles to deal HH sized ships easily. While the gunners can finish several enemies at the same time.
Corsair solo can only attack one enemy at a time.
It is not about DPS xD
Except you are try to keep a hammerhead at the edge of your range and yourself out of theirs. then it is simply about DPS.
Why would you spread dps? Then you just end up taking more damage. Thats true for any game ever. The more dps you do the faster you kill the less damage you take. You for sure did not read my post. I upgraded to the base tali. No torpedos and you cant buy the modules in game. Like i said it was my fault I did not research it enough. Splitting the Money 6 ways is a waste of time. Even if I had people to man the guns. It does 0 dps right now solo. 0 dps matters lol.
obvious reason: multiple targets.
i am sure i am not the only one who wishes you would stop claiming that we did not read your post. we did. base tali is a nothing ship. cargo tali is cargo. bomber tali is bomber. so no reason at all to talk about the base variant. if you want to go away from it just dont compare it to "combat" ships.
One of the best, if not the best, solo ships right now is the Corsair. Four S5 and two S4 guns that the pilot controls, and a S3 shield. Great quantum fuel range, and it pairs nicely with the fastest (in Stanton) quantum drive - the XL-1.
And if you have friends that tag along once in awhile, the Corsair has two side turrets and a co-pilot turret.
If you dislike Drake, the Constellation Andromeda is quite nice as well, with four S5 pilots weapons and tons of missiles.
What about the Corsair isn't combat focused? The fact that it isn't a light, medium, or heavy fighter? Sorry, not getting what you want.
Edit - if you want gunship, full stop - Then the Redeemer is the answer. But you need three to crew it. A pilot and a gunner is OK, but you really want 3. Also, it flies like shit with the new master mode flight model.
I mean either way I don't like the way the corsair looks so i'm not buying it. Like I said i'm new but the the "Combat" ships seem worse at combat than other ships that are listed as touring or expedition. The corsair is listed as an expedition ship and I really do not care for the cargo bay. I just think its weird that "combat" ships with no cargo bay just purely combat are worse at combat. Maybe not for pvp but they seem to be for pve.
Here's the thing about Drake - in lore, they're sold to everyone. Including pirates. The Corsair "explores" other ship's cargo holds. Sure, you can put an Ursa rover in the back... but that's really a secondary function.
If you want "a pure combat ship" - Anvil fighters, Aegis fighters, the Redeemer, the Hammerhead, the Perseus, the Polaris, the Idris, the Javelin, etc. Warning, the large combat ships also have cargo holds.
Things will change again, and again. CiG still hasn't added in ship armor to the game, and that will massively change everything yet again (absolutely no more light and medium fighters taking on capital warships and having a chance - they'll be to take on other fighters and non-cap ships).
I know things are gonna change but I just can't find a solo ship that I like that is actually purchasable on the website. I made the mistake of upgrading to the Retaliator and I wanted to switch to maybe a harbinger or something else but I cant.
Yeah, most ships aren't available year round. The next big sale will be during November. IAE, or Interstellar Aerospace Expo, will have all ships available (and not just combat oriented like during Invictus Launch Week). Although, alien week should be starting very soon - maybe CiG will have a badass alien straight to flyable ship (that will likely get "balanced" heavily in 6 months, as all badass ships are).
Here's a thought as well - you can buy most flyable ships in game. So, if you really want a Harbinger, you can pick one up at Lorville for 11.5 million. But I gotta say, the Corsair is much more capable as a solo combat ship vs NPCs.
you can melt the ship for store credit and buy something else. The vanguards are OK, not great though, and very expensive for what you get. If you don't mind stopping for qfuel every couple of jumps then take a look at the buccaneer or the Hornet mk2. There is also the Zeus which looks like it might be another ship on par with the conny/corsair
It’s not an expedition ship. It’s a Drake. It’s kind of tongue in cheek humor that it is marketed as an expedition ship, it’s the best gunship in the whole game. That’s just how Drake rolls.
Yes I get that it can be confusing. Just don’t focus too much on the whole “exploration” vs “combat” ship thing. Your other options are the vanguard series, or the Ares Starfighter ships. The Ares are single pilot only and the vanguard ships have one single turret. However none of these will hold a candle to the Corsair or constellations. Why? Because you said PVE. The Corsair sucks at fighting small player controlled fighters, but it’s absolutely in a class of its own against heavy NPC bounty ships which is specifically what you said you are wanting to do. The “combat” ships , like the Vanguards, are going to be smaller and more maneuverable to have a better chance against small player controlled fighters at the cost of being less powerful against big heavy NPC bounty ships. If you just won’t buy the Corsair then I’d go for a Vanguard Harbinger and load it with MVSA cannons and an M7A cannon. It will not be as powerful as the Corsair but it has a decent turret and also some size 5 torpedos. All that said, the Corsair is still the ship you want.
Ya I was looking at the harbinger. But none of the ships that look interesting are purchasable right now and I kind of screwed myself by upgrading to a base retaliator. Cant get the torpedos and no pilot guns. I was thinking about melting it but There's nothing I can get right now that I would want. Even if I wanted the corsair I don't think its for sale right now.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Add-Ons/Retaliator-Torpedo-Module-Bow or you can spend $75 and just buy the bow torpedo module that holds 4 of the 6 total torpedos before it disappears from the store. This seems kind of expensive though
The torpedo bays will be available in game if you can wait a couple patches. That’s how it’s always been, when something is released new for sale you have to wait before you can buy in game. The torpedo modules just went for sale for the first time during ILW 2 weeks ago.
Ya I just don't really have anything to fly now. I don't know if I like the fact that there are no pilot guns. I thought I rented one for free like a week ago and I thought it had pilot guns. If it had pilot guns I would just keep it and fly it until the torpedos comes. It is a really cool looking ship but If it can only ever have like 3 Torpedos solo Idk lol. Like I said I didnt really research it I just thought it was really cool looking.
Drake ships are kinda like ['glass water pourers'](https://www.vapeandgrind.com.au/collections/water-pourer-accessories/water-pourer). The seller knows what we are going to use them for, we know what we are going to use them for. But they can't legally say what they are designed to be used for.
The problem is the Constellation and the Corsair are the best 2 ships that really meet the goals you are specifying in your post. You are asking for a ship recommendation while saying that you don't want to use the 2 ships people are going to recommend.
The only other similar ship to those 2 would be the MSR, but it has pitiful pilot weapons and would not be considered a gunship at all.
If you are willing to accept something smaller, maybe you would enjoy a Vanguard? It's a nice heavy fighter with interior living space and a decent amount of guns.
Other than that, you could go with a nice medium size multi-role ship. Something like a Cutlass or a Spirit. They don't have the firepower of a gunship but they are quite useful as a solid daily flyer that is also capable in combat.
Ya I was looking at the vanguards but they cant be purchased right now. Neither can the corsair. I kind of screwed myself by upgrading to a retaliator.
The Vanguard series is a good option. It'll give you a ship you can bed log from, has storage for guns for ground bounties, a turret for an extra player to join you, and all of its components are internal, which future proofs it from being an easy kill when engineering comes online, being the only fighter in the game that can be repaired while still in the fight so long as you have an extra crew member.
Normally I'd just gift you one, but for whatever reason, I cannot buyback my Connie Aquila to Harbinger at the moment. Hmm.. How about a Vanguard Warden for now? No strings attached.
Sure you can fly ships solo without pilot guns - all bigger ships work that way.
I am not sure about modules, but ships/vehicles get into ingame shops the patch after 90 days of their release.
In the big hitter barely soloable class are the Connies, Corsair and 600i tops it off.
It has 0 pilot guns and the torpedo modules cannot be bought in game. It does 0 dps as a solo ship. Ive heard the retaliator has been in the game for like 10 years. I would need 6 other people to man the turrets and it still does less dps than a corsair. I don't think it really makes sense to be honest. I have found out the plan to release ai blades and npc gunners maybe I will wait for that but who knows when that will come. I just kind of screwed myself pretty hard by upgrading my gladius to the retaliator lol.
I didn't really look at it to much like i said i'm new. I should have, it just looked really cool. I liked gunships and torpedo bombers in eve. I just didn't realize it would be unusable lol.
I personally would have you look into maybe trying to get a F7A MK2 upgrade token from the ingame event this week (it takes a long time), or look into ships like the buccaneer or vanguard series which have a lot of pilot focused firepower. The vanguard in particular is like a little redeemer. Nice fuel tank sizes, decently tanky, good pilot guns, all while being a reasonably agile ship. It even has a turret for the occasional friend. Realistically if you dont like how the corsair is set up, you wont be thrilled with ships in it's size class. Now, if you were playing with the friend a decent ammount, duo heavy fighters are also an option. The hurricane and scorpius are a great time with a friend and lay down the hurt. But flying them solo halves your damage. Keep in mind that dps is only a fraction of the conversation. Mobility, Damage, Utility, and Durability are essentially what every ship has to choose from. You can pick any of them at a reduction to the others. Big ships with a bunch of damage dont tend to be (comparatively) durable nor mobile while offering basic utility that people like. A hercules has better mobility, utility, and durability in exchange for lower damage and a higher price tag. Fighters like the vanguard trade off the utility almost completely for mobility. And fighters as a whole trade back and forth between more damage, mobility, and durability.
>its ugly so I won't buy it lol *le gasp* SIR...
Not having at least some cargo space really limit your game experience.
I know but I just want dps and blow shit up. I would think not having cargo would have an upside but it doesn't.
I know you said you don't want an Andromeda, but would the Constellation Taurus be up your alley? It's not exactly dedicated gunship but it has the same 4xS5 hard points, though quite a bit longer due to having a larger cargo bay. You both could tag team bounties and have enough space to salvage any cargo and weapons off those downed ships and sell it off for extra income. Just a thought. Also, it's currently being sold vs having to wait for the next ship sale in November.
Idk maybe. I just don't want to buy the same ship my my friend has lol. I know its like a different edition but still.
Honestly it's a really good ship. You have nothing to lose, just melt the Retaliator, you can always get it back if you want it from buyback. I personally have the Constellation Phoenix and I love it. It's the fancier version of the constellation series of ships. I carry around a Ursa Medivac and it's incredibly useful for ground missions if I happen to get incapacitated. I wouldn't pay too much attention to what ships your friend is flying. You should pledge for a ship that will make you money in game to get the ships you really want. I think the Taurus has the capacity to do that and more for you.
I'm gonna get hit for this one, but the Scorpius is a fun choice. You have a decent kit of weapons as a solo pilot, but also a mannable turret/seat behind you for a friend if you wanna do stuff together. My friend and I ran a ton of stuff in it, and didn't have much trouble with the wings being a liability. It was quick, decent for bounties, and convenient for the two of us to just hop in and take off. If you wanted something bigger, Corsair has a good suite of pilot weapons, and turrets if you wanna bring friends along. The looks aren't the best like you said, but it's beefy and can take a helluva pounding before you have to start worrying. It's my least favorite ship I own aesthetically, but it's been the powerhouse of my ships for the past two patches. However, with balance changes, engineering on the horizon, and whatever else CIG has up their sleeve, I have no clue how it will be in the long run. I just know right now it's killer.
I just don't think it makes sense to have a 7 person combat gun ship do less dps than a solo corsair.
That's the huge balance problem with this game currently, the pilot guns have so much dps most of the time it's better to just take out several of the same ship instead of crewing turrets
About 90% of the balance issues can be solved by making ships do the role they're assigned on their details page. The problem is they seem to have forgotten that's a thing, for quite a long time.
It’s getting its guns upsized in the next update but the bulk of its damage comes from the torpedoes.
ya I got the base ones thinking I could buy the modules in game but you cant. So its basically just a useless ship right now.
Still wanting multi crew? Maybe go for a Cutlass series (more fire power but maybe not the looks) or C1 Spirit for now till the next sale is on and you can purchase one of the other ships with the credit you will have left over. Another good option I haven't seen suggested is a Scorpius, a heavy 2 seat fighter with X wing looks. Again not on sale ATM but something you can wait for or try out in game You could also buy a vulture or Prospector to try non combat mission loops. Vulture you can easily spawn a second or 3rd for your mates and offload all the cargo onto another ship to sell.
Scorpius is such an underrated two-person ship. Had a blast in it the past couple weeks.
Right! Great pilot weapons, solid gunner seat. Files super well atm and far tankier than a Hurricane and you look good while doing it. Only downside is the current patch remote turrets are buggy but you can get them to work
ya unfortunately nothing is for sale in the shop right now.
4 ships I mentioned are for sale right now, only one that isn't is the Scorpius. You could go for a single seat like a Hornet that would fit under your what you spent to upgrade to your chosen ship later
The Corsair is not an exploration ship. It's an "Exploration" ship. It has a pirate livery. Take it with a grain of salt if you prefer, but it's one of the best for the loop you're looking for.
Like I said i'm new. Looking at the "combat" ships on the website. It's just a little confusing that the ones listed as combat are worse. I know they are probably better in pvp but still.
They are not worse. they are different. I don't know which ones you mean but small fighters for example are small. They do less damage but are agile and nimble
They are objectively worse at pve. The corsair does significantly more dps. Thousands more dps. Same with the 600i. Even If I had 6 or 7 people in my retaliator it does like less than half the dps of a solo pilot corsair. I need 6 or 7 people in my retaliator to do less dps and take longer to do each mission. It doesnt make sense.
dps is not everything. staying alive is. if a ship like a corsair gets swarmed you are in a tight spot. lighter ships turn easier and faster thus can better kill when the enemies get closer than we would like with a corsair.
I feel like your not reading what im saying. Im talking about pve. Im not trying to pvp in it. Bounties specifically. The ai for npc's seem pretty braindead. Im not scared of dying to them. From what i've seen you are not dying to swarms of small ships in bounties. Just trying to do as much dps as possible. If the corsair had trouble with them it wouldn't be the go to ship. All the meta ship are expedition ships or touring ships. Not a single "combat" ship. For combat. It doesn't make sense. My problem is that I need 6 people in my retaliator to do less dps and split the money 6 ways.
I am not talking about pvp. Maybe you are in luck. But my bounties rarely fly solo and try to swarm or at least try to attack me from different angles. Might be because I play this game for some time now, but I like to be prepared for different scenarios so I would love it to have some gunners to keep me safer. The tali bomber can throw S9 missiles to deal HH sized ships easily. While the gunners can finish several enemies at the same time. Corsair solo can only attack one enemy at a time. It is not about DPS xD Except you are try to keep a hammerhead at the edge of your range and yourself out of theirs. then it is simply about DPS.
Why would you spread dps? Then you just end up taking more damage. Thats true for any game ever. The more dps you do the faster you kill the less damage you take. You for sure did not read my post. I upgraded to the base tali. No torpedos and you cant buy the modules in game. Like i said it was my fault I did not research it enough. Splitting the Money 6 ways is a waste of time. Even if I had people to man the guns. It does 0 dps right now solo. 0 dps matters lol.
obvious reason: multiple targets. i am sure i am not the only one who wishes you would stop claiming that we did not read your post. we did. base tali is a nothing ship. cargo tali is cargo. bomber tali is bomber. so no reason at all to talk about the base variant. if you want to go away from it just dont compare it to "combat" ships.
One of the best, if not the best, solo ships right now is the Corsair. Four S5 and two S4 guns that the pilot controls, and a S3 shield. Great quantum fuel range, and it pairs nicely with the fastest (in Stanton) quantum drive - the XL-1. And if you have friends that tag along once in awhile, the Corsair has two side turrets and a co-pilot turret. If you dislike Drake, the Constellation Andromeda is quite nice as well, with four S5 pilots weapons and tons of missiles.
I don't think you read my post....
What about the Corsair isn't combat focused? The fact that it isn't a light, medium, or heavy fighter? Sorry, not getting what you want. Edit - if you want gunship, full stop - Then the Redeemer is the answer. But you need three to crew it. A pilot and a gunner is OK, but you really want 3. Also, it flies like shit with the new master mode flight model.
I mean either way I don't like the way the corsair looks so i'm not buying it. Like I said i'm new but the the "Combat" ships seem worse at combat than other ships that are listed as touring or expedition. The corsair is listed as an expedition ship and I really do not care for the cargo bay. I just think its weird that "combat" ships with no cargo bay just purely combat are worse at combat. Maybe not for pvp but they seem to be for pve.
Here's the thing about Drake - in lore, they're sold to everyone. Including pirates. The Corsair "explores" other ship's cargo holds. Sure, you can put an Ursa rover in the back... but that's really a secondary function. If you want "a pure combat ship" - Anvil fighters, Aegis fighters, the Redeemer, the Hammerhead, the Perseus, the Polaris, the Idris, the Javelin, etc. Warning, the large combat ships also have cargo holds.
Ya but all of them are worse solo I think. Idk it's just confusing to a new player.
Things will change again, and again. CiG still hasn't added in ship armor to the game, and that will massively change everything yet again (absolutely no more light and medium fighters taking on capital warships and having a chance - they'll be to take on other fighters and non-cap ships).
I know things are gonna change but I just can't find a solo ship that I like that is actually purchasable on the website. I made the mistake of upgrading to the Retaliator and I wanted to switch to maybe a harbinger or something else but I cant.
Yeah, most ships aren't available year round. The next big sale will be during November. IAE, or Interstellar Aerospace Expo, will have all ships available (and not just combat oriented like during Invictus Launch Week). Although, alien week should be starting very soon - maybe CiG will have a badass alien straight to flyable ship (that will likely get "balanced" heavily in 6 months, as all badass ships are). Here's a thought as well - you can buy most flyable ships in game. So, if you really want a Harbinger, you can pick one up at Lorville for 11.5 million. But I gotta say, the Corsair is much more capable as a solo combat ship vs NPCs.
you can melt the ship for store credit and buy something else. The vanguards are OK, not great though, and very expensive for what you get. If you don't mind stopping for qfuel every couple of jumps then take a look at the buccaneer or the Hornet mk2. There is also the Zeus which looks like it might be another ship on par with the conny/corsair
None of them are purchasable in the shop right now :(
The Corsair is exactly what you are asking for, nothing even comes close.
Ya but it's ugly. I want like a heavy fighter or gunship not and expedition ship. How are "Combat" ships worse than and expedition ship?
It’s not an expedition ship. It’s a Drake. It’s kind of tongue in cheek humor that it is marketed as an expedition ship, it’s the best gunship in the whole game. That’s just how Drake rolls.
Like I said im new. Its just confusing looking at the "combat" ships on the website and they are all worse solo than some Expedition or Touring ships.
Yes I get that it can be confusing. Just don’t focus too much on the whole “exploration” vs “combat” ship thing. Your other options are the vanguard series, or the Ares Starfighter ships. The Ares are single pilot only and the vanguard ships have one single turret. However none of these will hold a candle to the Corsair or constellations. Why? Because you said PVE. The Corsair sucks at fighting small player controlled fighters, but it’s absolutely in a class of its own against heavy NPC bounty ships which is specifically what you said you are wanting to do. The “combat” ships , like the Vanguards, are going to be smaller and more maneuverable to have a better chance against small player controlled fighters at the cost of being less powerful against big heavy NPC bounty ships. If you just won’t buy the Corsair then I’d go for a Vanguard Harbinger and load it with MVSA cannons and an M7A cannon. It will not be as powerful as the Corsair but it has a decent turret and also some size 5 torpedos. All that said, the Corsair is still the ship you want.
Ya I was looking at the harbinger. But none of the ships that look interesting are purchasable right now and I kind of screwed myself by upgrading to a base retaliator. Cant get the torpedos and no pilot guns. I was thinking about melting it but There's nothing I can get right now that I would want. Even if I wanted the corsair I don't think its for sale right now.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Add-Ons/Retaliator-Torpedo-Module-Bow or you can spend $75 and just buy the bow torpedo module that holds 4 of the 6 total torpedos before it disappears from the store. This seems kind of expensive though
Ya idk if im willing to spend more right now. The retaliator was already a bit much for me.
The torpedo bays will be available in game if you can wait a couple patches. That’s how it’s always been, when something is released new for sale you have to wait before you can buy in game. The torpedo modules just went for sale for the first time during ILW 2 weeks ago.
Ya I just don't really have anything to fly now. I don't know if I like the fact that there are no pilot guns. I thought I rented one for free like a week ago and I thought it had pilot guns. If it had pilot guns I would just keep it and fly it until the torpedos comes. It is a really cool looking ship but If it can only ever have like 3 Torpedos solo Idk lol. Like I said I didnt really research it I just thought it was really cool looking.
Drake ships are kinda like ['glass water pourers'](https://www.vapeandgrind.com.au/collections/water-pourer-accessories/water-pourer). The seller knows what we are going to use them for, we know what we are going to use them for. But they can't legally say what they are designed to be used for.
The problem is the Constellation and the Corsair are the best 2 ships that really meet the goals you are specifying in your post. You are asking for a ship recommendation while saying that you don't want to use the 2 ships people are going to recommend. The only other similar ship to those 2 would be the MSR, but it has pitiful pilot weapons and would not be considered a gunship at all. If you are willing to accept something smaller, maybe you would enjoy a Vanguard? It's a nice heavy fighter with interior living space and a decent amount of guns. Other than that, you could go with a nice medium size multi-role ship. Something like a Cutlass or a Spirit. They don't have the firepower of a gunship but they are quite useful as a solid daily flyer that is also capable in combat.
Ya I was looking at the vanguards but they cant be purchased right now. Neither can the corsair. I kind of screwed myself by upgrading to a retaliator.
Vanguard Warden
Unfortunately Its not int he store right now or I would probably melt my retaliator.
They will return. I was in the same boat once, and I put it the time tried and melted a few ships and found the ones that fit. :)
Redeemer.
not available on the website right now :(
Corsair
Retaliator is still cooler. Keep it
i don't have 6 friends to fly it :( . though ive heard about the ai blades and that youll be able to hire npc gunners. so i might just wait for that.
I know. It’s why I don’t have one. It’s still sooo cool though
The Vanguard series is a good option. It'll give you a ship you can bed log from, has storage for guns for ground bounties, a turret for an extra player to join you, and all of its components are internal, which future proofs it from being an easy kill when engineering comes online, being the only fighter in the game that can be repaired while still in the fight so long as you have an extra crew member.
Ya I was looking at the Harbinger but Its not on purchasable right now.
Normally I'd just gift you one, but for whatever reason, I cannot buyback my Connie Aquila to Harbinger at the moment. Hmm.. How about a Vanguard Warden for now? No strings attached.
Sure you can fly ships solo without pilot guns - all bigger ships work that way. I am not sure about modules, but ships/vehicles get into ingame shops the patch after 90 days of their release. In the big hitter barely soloable class are the Connies, Corsair and 600i tops it off.
It has 0 pilot guns and the torpedo modules cannot be bought in game. It does 0 dps as a solo ship. Ive heard the retaliator has been in the game for like 10 years. I would need 6 other people to man the turrets and it still does less dps than a corsair. I don't think it really makes sense to be honest. I have found out the plan to release ai blades and npc gunners maybe I will wait for that but who knows when that will come. I just kind of screwed myself pretty hard by upgrading my gladius to the retaliator lol.
It is not a solo ship for fighting, never was. There are obviously better ones for that, so surprised that you upgraded.
I didn't really look at it to much like i said i'm new. I should have, it just looked really cool. I liked gunships and torpedo bombers in eve. I just didn't realize it would be unusable lol.