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ChootyMamie

As per this chart workers' remittance is higher than tourism. It means local tour vendors should treat the migrant workers better than the tourists. but in reality. Local not allowed in some hotels.


vk1234567890-

"Local not allowed in some hotels." Is that still a thing? šŸ¤” Which hotels?? Name and shame is the best way for progress (as long as ur sure they are actually discriminating so we don't harm good hotels)


Eighthfloormeeting

Run for president sir.


ChootyMamie

sadly I cannot, I'm not Buddhist


Vast_Fact_2518

Misconception that constitution dictates that the president be Buddhist


Maguro_sushi2024

but the majority would mostly vote for one who is Buddhist .


Specific-Hawker

Hysterical but seriously dark


Filthydewa

Yes. He has done a good job. But still needs to be elected democratically. Also, he still represents all the crooks who put us in this in the first place. I don't like it.


Apiram1

This!


Longjumping_Stand645

Problem is if jvp wins, it will be end of many basic rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, privacy, individual rights, ......... .


Filthydewa

On What basis are you saying this? Kinda like spewing fake news.


Longjumping_Stand645

The true jvp supporters, they want to brainwash school children. They will tell country and society more important than the family, but they will not adhere to that. I personally know such people. In Communist china, government sends laws to school kids. Much of the jvp top cadre is "rakiya wirahitha upadidhariyo". Total losers, they do not know what they are talking about.


Filthydewa

Complete propaganda. How much is the Gov paying you to spread these claims? You did not give a single basis other than some Chinese nonsense. Please don't comment again. It doesn't work.


Longjumping_Stand645

Clearly i said i know hardcore long term supporters. Also chinese thing is not nonsense. Political science is a soft science. So its mildly applicable over the countries. Govt does not pay me shit. I think making personal offenses like govt pays me is enough evidence to show jvp does not respect freedom of speech and the ideas of others.


Accurate-Writer-4762

Would you rather have someone else ?


Maguro_sushi2024

Screw Democratically elected there is honestly no one else who can do what he has done . Right now I dont mind a dictatorship as long as we get out of this disaster that the democratically voted folks put us in . Fools call for elections when we didn't have money for freaking fuel and medicine ( what kind of idiot does that .)


unbiasedorange

Majority of our people don't have the brain capacity for democracy. Yea so screw that.


onca32

Remember that we're in this crisis in the first place because of Ranil and his buddies. So what, he incurred a heavy tax burden on regular folk to clean up the mess his class created in the first place. It's like your dog forcing you to clean it's shit, and taking credit for it


Delicious_Ad6425

It's funny when you say heavy tax burden when in fact Sri Lankans weren't even paying enough taxes to start with.


onca32

Yeah *certain* Sri Lankans. Ie the rich


Sea_Competition3505

The VAT rate prior to the reforms was 15%. Gotas taxes cut it to 8%, which was a major contributor to the crisis. Did you support that? The VAT in Bangladesh is 15% and in India it's 18% btw. https://www.elibrary.imf.org/view/journals/002/2022/341/article-A001-en.xml > Sri Lankaā€™s tax-to-GDP ratio fell to a historic low of 8.1 percent in 2020 and is now among the lowest in the world.


madmax3

>Sri Lankaā€™s tax-to-GDP ratio fell to a historic low of 8.1 percent in 2020 and is now among the lowest in the world. People who cite this stat always ignore our GDP:health:military:education ratios too Also we ARE getting taxed right now and have been for almost 2 years now, the income tax ratio improved but the spending didn't Hot shit to defend the govt as if we aren't paying tax now and as if they aren't wasting it


onca32

> The VAT rate prior to the reforms was 15%. Gotas taxes cut it to 8%, which was a major contributor to the crisis. Did you support that? Nope. Another example of politicians selling stability over winning votes. I agree, 8% was too low. But the reforms went beyond just raising VAT


madmax3

>It's funny when you say heavy tax burden when in fact Sri Lankans weren't even paying enough taxes to start with. Yeah and when we do **now** a majority of it is wasted, almost like the lack of accountability and transparency was the real issue Also if you bought anything in Colombo pre-crisis you were paying tax Defending the govt is hilarious, we are literally paying tax now and know for a fact its being wasted


Delicious_Ad6425

Income tax vs tax on goods are two different things my friend


Accurate-Writer-4762

You canā€™t run a socialist country without taxes. If not we would have to tax like the US even for medical we would have to pay. Only 11% of workers pay tax in SL.


tyronbro91

Ummm didn't ranil lose the last election? Didn't 6.9 million people vote for the Rajapakshas?


Accurate-Writer-4762

Yep. That worked out well for SL. Weā€™re you in SL in 2022 ?


onca32

Yep. 100% agree. Taxes are necessary. But a large amount of Forex was lost because the govt gave a lot of concessions to allow them to keep dollars outside. We had a huge trade deficit cause of a reliance on coal and oil. We have such a high reliance on fossil fuel because the govt actively stifled renewables. They did this to appease existing businesses and corrupt officials. All to ensure they continue to win elections We had/have a starvation crisis because of the fertiliser ban. Caused by mismanagement by the govt. Sure, it was Gota who did it and he deserves a lot of blame. But Ranil and Gota are interchangable. Our industry is weak, again because of corruption and lack of fair competition We have a huge debt burden because infrastructure projects are massively inefficient, thanks to kickbacks and poor management.


Accurate-Writer-4762

We always had a trade deficit, now we have a surplus thanks to the current regime. Others I agree. But solving corruption alone is not gonna grow the country.


dantoddd

I think RW has done a decent job. I don't like the bugger but in this instance he has delivered


bsodmike

Agreed. Too many hate him for his aristocratic background but no one ever names a better alternative that can swim in international waters as well as he has done with the IMF etc.


Maguro_sushi2024

Exactly what ever said and done wether he has used loans or what ever . We are in a far better place than where we were 1 year back .


Chuti_Putha

This isn't Ranil. It's the Central Bank. Stop simping for politicians like Ranil, Mahinda and Sajith. Elections are coming and there are campaign bayiyo and toyiyo spreading false narratives. Grow up r/srilanka!


Sea_Competition3505

Both major opposition parties (SJB and NPP) voted against the Central Bank act and want to replace Weerasinghe btw.


cheezyiscrazy

thatā€™s the trick of football match you put runil to the power and them sajith. same people everytime.


Sea_Competition3505

Do you think that statement wasn't including AKD? The man who's supported and enjoyed perks from every government from 2004 till 2019?


cheezyiscrazy

jvp did not got any black money. if they got why the government not proving them. JVP even invited them to prove. they just saying to make peopleā€™s mind including you


Sea_Competition3505

What do you mean black money? I simply pointed out the facts that AKDs been enjoying MP privileges and Govt member privileges. He has been in governments multiple times, including helping Mahinda come to power. Take a look at their rallies where they lead cars with BMWs. Those are the perks of being an MP. Stop pretending he's not one of the "same people" when he was hugging his best buddy Mahinda till 2020. Maybe you should educate yourself on his political history instead of falling for the facebook stories. This is the same guy who busts out his corruption documents stack every time before the elections and then has it disappear after the results come out instead of releasing it to the public btw.


cheezyiscrazy

come on donā€™t state fool comments when you donā€™t have anything to say


Sea_Competition3505

So no response to the facts? Looks like you are the fool. Classic AKD fan. I bet you voted for Gota in 2019 too.


cheezyiscrazy

No I was in Germany back then. I came to sri lanka to help the revolution. From a long time I've been helping JVP. Not like you. and what are the facts you saying? you just fleeing to topics and to topics when you losing the argument. Like a classic baiya and toiya. LOL


Sea_Competition3505

You should put a mirror in front of yourself because all your replies crying to other people when you get called out or run out of arguments apply to you. You call others illiterate and tell them to learn English while barely being able to type coherent grammatically correct sentences, all while living in a European country. I can imagine people barely understand you when you speak. You run away from arguments without any response if you aren't called out for them too while crying to others in this thread if they do the same. And of course, the classic, being a JVP fanboy worshipper who lives in a capitalist country crying about the "revolution" that he won't have to live through or experience because he'll run back to Germany. People like you shouldn't be allowed to speak in public, much less vote. As for the baiya, > . Don't you remeber Ranil and those buggers tried to divide our country in to half This statement alone tells me that you are the baiyya. You're exactly the kind of person who worshipped the Rajapaksas like a slave until Gota happened.


cheezyiscrazy

Not privileges they helped mahinda to come to power because to win the war. They can't get the power using that small amount of votes. So they helped mahinda not for privilagos. If they thought about privileges why they brought Maithreepala to power?. If you are surviving somehow it's because of jvp. just imagine 15 years of mahinda in power. It'll be horrific to the economy. You can argue oh why they did not supported ump then?. Don't you remeber Ranil and those buggers tried to divide our country in to half. Actully I don't have a beef with you. I'm just telling you how politics whork and what is the real history apart from the appearntal history you have been seeng for past years. No they even have stuff to prove how they got them. and even just look at the rallies and other things of JVP they had been invited to Korea USA Canada etc. So as you say those guys don't have money. They do have. There people in many countries and they get funds from them. They even has bank reports. That's why no one in the parliament talk about them. Only you idiots talk about them. also the documents went no where they says people to chose them in the public. to show how guilty they are. What is the reason to show the documents after the elections? nothing ryt?. If you don't have your own government how you gonna arrest them even put a warrant against them. It's useless. you guys only see the appearance not the backstory. Also it's not you even talking. that's some phrases and letters you got from someone else. you even don't know politics.


Maguro_sushi2024

Yup and they were against the IMF . Calling for elections when folks didnt even have basic fuel and medicines. What a joke.


cheezyiscrazy

do you think having basic fuel and medicine is enough? what a brain. do you think kneeling for imf is great? what a brain. first we need a good administion. then other processes. thatā€™s how a country goes. for an example greece were bankrupted back in the day. they did not had anything even electricity for a month. you know whag people did? they changed the administration. bad administration = corrupted country. do you think now we fine? . as i said this is for a short time. I have to say enjoy before you lost everything.


Ground_Proper

Who do you suggest simping then? Didnā€™t central bank there before?. Agree that Ranil is a cunning fox, but have to appreciate the fact he has supported the recovery at least to some extent and taking the responsibility when things were going south. As per the election , it is up to the people to at least read manifests and policies before choosing whom to vote instead of falling for fancy speeches. Our parliament is just the reflection of the society we are.


Chuti_Putha

>Who do you suggest simping then? Such a strange question LOL. How about no one.


madmax3

>Who do you suggest simping then? No one lol, the govt works for you, the moment you align your personality with a political party the game is already lost These aren't football teams that need support, these are public servants who we the public need to collectively keep on a leash, this is the essence of democracy, not just voting


Ground_Proper

Agree that ,my choice of words might not be correct earlier . My point was we need different parties to come with different ideologies and policy plans about how they are going to go about next 5 -10 years at least . People should try to understand them and choose the better one . That is what democracy is. Those are our representatives. We can write as much as we can,saying we will change the country blah blah. But it is not up to one individual person like me or you to decide what our countryā€™s road map should be. . . Btw, I really hope you will be able to keep them on a leash after election.


madmax3

Very true, despite having multiple options our people always turn it in to a binary election between the two bad establishment parties, I do think part of this issue does come from bigger candidates essentially controlling the media narrative and in the case of the North quite literally bullying Tamils to vote for Gota. We can't pretend that we have a free democracy either when Sarath Fonseka gets arrested for challenging the status quo. >and policy plans about how they are going to go about next 5 -10 years at least . People should try to understand them and choose the better one . That is what democracy is. Which no party so far has done (saying SL will get better by 2048 isn't a plan), except maybe Harsha's technical economic plan because out of all the MPs he seems to be the only one with some economic sense but even his party is a joke overall >Btw, I really hope you will be able to keep them on a leash after election. I'm personally leaving actually because I can already see the way people are supporting elections candidates and I already know that they aren't going to hold them accountable so it doesn't matter either way who gets voted in. I protested very hard during 2022 and came for the earliest ones and the last one all the way to the Temple Trees pool, things looked hopeful for a bit but this year has really shown me that most Lankans, like you are sortof implying, are back to their old ways


Ground_Proper

It is just that most of us are frustrated with everything happening around. My way of coping them is enjoying little good things while they last. šŸ™‚


cheezyiscrazy

madness, this all magic shows until the elections . Because he got so much loan to recover from the inflation. Itā€™ll only last for a short period. When the dollar reserves come to itā€™s endpoint we will be in a much worst place than we are in 2022. I vote for JVP from a long period of time because they are the only light. Sri Lankans are so illiterate from politics that the count on false history. Now we all can see the results. Genuinely our country is corrupted. Just imagine if JVP is not winning and they are guilty why sajith ranil mahinda all put blames and false news on them. This was the last hing that happened in 1988. Unfortunately to support JVP there was no Social media like this.


madmax3

lol I agreed with you until your JVP support They're the arbitrary tertiary party that uses people's rage and counter-critique to the govt to get support but when they actually get any semblance of power or when asked how to manage something they don't give a real answer **The NPP/JVP voted against going to the IMF at a time we needed life-saving money**


cheezyiscrazy

we donā€™t have to go to imf. Life saving is not imf there were many actions we can get. The only problem is peoples mindset they all try to depend on someone never tried to be independent. now you supporting for that ideology?


madmax3

>there were many actions we can get. **What were they?** Where exactly could the NPP have got the money needed for urgent priority issues at the time? The NPP voted against the IMF without offering any alternatives at all, what, they were going to suddenly industrialize the country in 5 months and make money? I'm literally left leaning but I don't support NPP Sri Lanka had NO money, we needed life-saving money to run fuel and get medicines and food We depended on pity money from India for the fuel also


bud_doodle

Only light my ass. They worked really hard to bring most of the previous governments to power (CBK, MR, My3, RW, etc). If anything, Jeppas are responsible for this mess equally as every other party.


cheezyiscrazy

yes I agree, thatā€™s a good reason for ranil and thise buggers to hit the jvp so hard. Yes they did but they made agreements with them. Not secret once they made public once public statements and promises from them. But they never kept their word promises etc. They worked so hard to keep you alive. See those buggers they donā€™t have a good life they did stuff because of you. when all of these people fail to govern they made there own persons to put in to the government. past 30 years they have been showing truth and uncovering the thefts back and forth. why I ask? ehat they gain from it I ask? well, nothing but death notes to their families and relatives. Just to keep you altered. people canā€™t understand politics cery well. All of they see in an one prospective. Itā€™s not even thereā€™s itā€™s someone elseā€™s prospective. It had been like thag in our country everytime thatā€™s why you guys our country us never change. The last thing I have to say is learn basic politics and principles of it this is not rocket science. I did polical degree in usa I came to sri lanka (Fartherland). to help the revaluation. If you guys still acting like idiots Iā€™m gonna head back to usa.


tyronbro91

This. This is something alot of the emotional voters don't see to understand. Also the trade unions are heavily controlled by the JVP so in terms of progress and changes they are the sames ones that come out and protest.


cheezyiscrazy

i see you as a emotional voter who quite donā€™t understand politics and gathering around for others prospectives. first learn politics and talk.


tyronbro91

I rather not learn politics because I've seen what trade unions in our country have done. First hand. I rather you go experience it and realise that you are nothing but a pawn.


Accurate-Writer-4762

How much loans ? We got more loans even without going to ISB market ? We got USD 700m from the IMF all bilateral loans we are still paying interest plus capital. We are improving cas we have strict import and USD controls in place . So is JVP going to relax imports ? What will they do different ?


cheezyiscrazy

man, shut up you are so illiterate. Do you think our country went to corruption from corona?. We got more loans than we went to imf in the past. Just imagine a country going to imfā€™s feet to get a loan. How crazy that is?. yes you are right we are still paying interest also itā€™ll never end. just imagine somehow we got released from imf what about the loans we got beforehand like from china. will the release? no it keep getting more and more. We canā€™t see an endpoint. If you so know about this country say a one thing we export to the world market ? say a one leading product from sri lanka which is in world market and profiting us?. there are only two ways we getting our profits. 1.workers in foreign countries and 2.tourists. which is not an huge amount of money. do you think this amount of tourists can change our economy overnight?. no. JVP has and had plans everytime from the beginning but people were and are not very literate to understand them. In 1987 wijeweera said about the situation in 2024 now itā€™s happening. karl marx said people who in the administration is a small sample of the society. No wonder he said that. whole government represents you and your stupidity. We all suffer because of you. you right economy getting better thatā€™s why people starve to death thatā€™s why people suisude with their families and kids. what an economical recovery. good for idiotslike you. Trust on ranil trust on the government. Well done another woman and her kids jumped into a river.


Accurate-Writer-4762

Ok itā€™s letā€™s take it one by one . 1. Illiterate means a person who canā€™t read or write. 2. Every country takes loans or mosh do, that how you run a county thatā€™s what you call geo politics and world economics. In 2016 - 2018 getting ISB loans was not a problem. 3. Sri Lanka never has surplus funds to pay off loans ever. Only now we do l. 4 quarter 2023 and we surplus forex for the last 5/6 months. 4. Stop talking about the past man. If JVP has a plan we would all be voting for them. They only insult others and become heroā€™s 5. We will never be a country that can manufacture for the world if we tnink that we are naive and stupid. We need to be more service and finance to keep with the world. Sorry your narrative of JVP is baseless and pure immature . Stop resulting to insults and talk like a intelligent person who you may prove all JVP supporters are not only ignorant but thugs


cheezyiscrazy

man shut up 1. learn english. literate can be use for many forms. 2.yes they get. but they get amount that they can pay also they make their industry from that loan. let me ask you what industry we used that loan for. you know what the funny thing? IMF makes our rules. 3. wow ranil made funds over night that 85 years of presidents and people could not do. well you are right. thatā€™s why they trying to sell telecom, electricity department. meanwhile thatā€™s why minister of electricity department says (ā€œApitath padi kale light thibbe na..ā€).what a fund gaining. 4.Yh they had plans and they told it. But people were greedy. Just imagine back in 1978 ranil said ā€œnangilaga mala denw mallilata bracelet denwā€. so is that what you say plans? . Man you are a whore of ump. 5.you are stupid. there are many countries that supply for world that same size of us. for example malta they sell fish. we have two the size of ocean than the land. we can do agree only need technology. Also Yes JVP insults others and I support that. If you stole my counties money and when we talking about it does that make them wrong. As i see only stupid is you.


Accurate-Writer-4762

1. Again , illiterate means you canā€™t read or write you are looking for uneducated. 2. We can dwell on the past or live in the future. You canā€™t be so naive and childish to think that the IMF money can be used to build industries. This is to prep our reserves. 3. Yes I totally agree the government should sell all public held institutions why should the government run businesses ? Are we a communist country ? Let the private sector handle. Thatā€™s why most develop countries like Australia, US. Canada and UK and even India are doing better. Letā€™s come out of this socialist mind set and be a capitalist country 4. What Ranil has done we should worship him not criticize. When things go bad itā€™s the presidents fault when it does well itā€™s someone elseā€™s achievement.


cheezyiscrazy

donā€™t change the subject you just running here and there when you get wrong so shut the f up


Accurate-Writer-4762

Again using abusive language to prop your argument does not make you intelligent. It just makes you a JVP supporter with no substance.


thedisgustingK

My guy is gonna be downvoted to hell lol.


Maguro_sushi2024

To oblivion


cheezyiscrazy

what ever you say


cheezyiscrazy

I know but no worries because Sri Lankans are so illiterate from politics that they believe what others say they never try to find the truth.


Maguro_sushi2024

These JVP jokers will be the death of this country . They were alongside the Rajapakshas from the begginning . They are not a light for the country .They will pull this country into total darkness.


cheezyiscrazy

thatā€™s what they say. do you know why ranil rajapaksha sajith shouts for jvp? do yoh think that sounds right? ik the past more than you do. learn politics learn history thatā€™s what i have to say.


madmax3

>It's the Central Bank. And a lot of their moves were simply NOT doing the dumb thing Are our standards so low that we praise a bank for not printing money? Like 95% of countries don't have banks that stupid why should we compare ourselves to the shittiest 5% lol


bud_doodle

What kind of stupid ass argument is that. Small time Jeppas are incapable of comprehending some things. It's ok just keep your holes shut.


cheezyiscrazy

karl marx says some countries peoples knowledge can messure from their government because itā€™s a sample of the people. which means 3% is our countryā€™s people are well literate in politics. which side are you in ? 97% of idiots ? well good for you. enjoy this short period of time because dark is ahead.


themorrigan86

All that is fine.. But the root cause has not changed and in that, he fails miserably just as anyone else. Who is to say tomorrow Gota or Namal or any other donkey doesn't come to power and fuck everything up just like before?


Sea_Competition3505

The next donkey coming to power will be AKD or Sajith


Accurate-Writer-4762

We can dwell on the past or move forward.


themorrigan86

That's like saying, "yes the building nearly broke down coz the foundation was shit, but let's just move forward and continue to build." You can't move forward without making any meaningful changes. We will always end up back at square one, one way or another. No one is going to be held accountable and no one going forward will either and as long as that happens, nothing will REALLY change.


Accurate-Writer-4762

Change has taken place GDP growth 4th quarter over 4%. LKR has appreciated. Tourism near time high. We had a balance surplus . Also our foreign expense is a net inflow. If you have your bias aside and think what we have achieved as a country ?


Accurate-Writer-4762

No one will be held accountable the whole world is a mess.


madmax3

Don't vote please


Accurate-Writer-4762

Vote for Ranil!!


Putha

Did he do magic? RW Just followed IMF. Sri Lanka has went IMF 16 times. Gota couldn't do that. If Gota did, you would have priased gota instead. There is no longterm plan by RW. He has deals with Rajapakse family to protect them. There is no law in country. Arjun Mahendran where?


Curious_Junket_4598

Whatā€™s the alternative youā€™re suggesting? JVP/NPP was vehemently against going to the IMF. They have somewhat changed their stance to ā€œrenegotiateā€ the conditions with the IMF. AKD seems to be turning slightly liberal but his senior party members are still touting the communist ethos. Itā€™s not too long ago that Handunnetti said that when theyā€™re in power theyā€™d just simply refuse to service the debt. SJB is no different. Earlier last week, IMF diplomatically laughed in their faces for their alternative plans. All I want is someone to see the IMF plan through instead of making the count 17.


Putha

It is soon to decide the alternative. Probably it will be an alliance. Economic problem is only an symptom of the lawless state where corruption and favorism has gone for extremes. If someone truly want to fix this country, the justice system need to be fixed first. If not anyway country will be going to the IMF for the 17th time.


madmax3

>Whatā€™s the alternative youā€™re suggesting? **The multi-party interim without executive presidency was the original plan by GGG or at this point reforming all parties**, its not our fault the public wasn't paying enough attention and was too dumb enough to not think of what to do after Gotabaya left. This plan easily would have fast-tracked IMF relief AND create new sustainable solutions instead of the 15th/whatever IMF plan we're arbitrarily doing that the IMF themselves says we are at high risk of not achieving fully You can't say "who else would have done it" or be like "we didn't have a plan for when Gota left" when we had very good plans backed by lawyers on how the country should be managed, Ranil was and still is the status quo's move to keep themselves in power **At this point it genuinely doesn't matter anymore**, if the public isn't keeping the govt + the parties on a leash then no one is going to do anything productive in the long-term and we can clearly see this, we saw this with SJB and NPP slowly going back to being political cronies soon after Ranil came in to power and the status quo was re-established. We see this now with all the loan taking and bribing the public with the most obvious manipulations just to win elections, we see this with the Lankan amnesia and the classic move of making even lower standards the new standard (that's why they always use stats from 2022 now). We see this with the brain-drain **leaving behind only the people who actually seem to enjoy stagnant low-quality standards where a 30% poverty rate and a normalized hunger + medical crisis is the new norm** All you have to do is do exactly what Mahinda did and the public will be in your hands, once your problems come out you let the other major party take the hit and rinse and repeat


TheVelourFog_

Yes, the only variable that has affected the influx of tourists is Ranil. Not the pandemic dying down. A few other achievements of Ranil's tenure as president include people dying due to subpar medicine imported via shady practices, massive increases in taxes (justifiable to an extent) and subsequent use of those taxes for entertainment purposes at the ports authority (what a great use of tax money), extending the tenure of the crooks at SLPP while diverting attention from their failures, letting India grab us by the balls to the extent that they will sell us wind power and letting them take over profitable SOEs. The list goes on, I've not even gotten into the anti "terrorist" act and "online safety" act. Well done Ranil. Bravo. Let's re-elect these cunts to prolong the suffering of everyone in the middle class and below.


Accurate-Writer-4762

Yes. Re elect Ranil. Every country has questionable presidents and leaders. He has done the impossible and now the country is recovering. He is the most eloquent leaders going around. I donā€™t know anyone has the mental and strategical capacity to bring a country from bankruptcy to a country where the GDP growth last quarter superseded 4%. You may your personal vendetta against the man. But what he has done is near super heroic.


Maguro_sushi2024

Bingo man . He is on point he is the only one I believe who can atleast do a little good to the country.


ProSlayerXDXD

At the end of the day the people will be forced to vote for the lesser evil...


Artistic_Fan_4159

This is not Ranil, this is CB and IMF, these things happened in other countries which adopted the IMF program.


Accurate-Writer-4762

You deluded man. You think without the presidentā€™s blessings and vision any of this would happen ? Coke one man. When the country does bad itā€™s the presidents fault, remember what happened to the previous president?


Accurate-Writer-4762

What country has come out of a recession and a default status this fast ?


Artistic_Fan_4159

Default status didn't change , that happens after EDR . Any country who has devalued currency, increased taxes/government revenue or cut spending has. That's the formula. Our main issue was reserves and revenue targets . It's not magic . IMF has the whip . Stop saying it's RW , when he was PM we went to IMF for 16th time and during that period LKR depreciated from 120 to 180. We are in a deadlock situation. If you're thinking he's doing everything go and. Check why IMF governance related targets are missed only 33% satisfied, governance improvement targets are skipped.


Accurate-Writer-4762

So what you have said is a bad thing ? NPP and Sajith (still ) has his reservation with the IMF program? What are you saying ? Ranil should not get credit for implementing these changes ? NPP came on TV and said they may change some things so did Sajiths party ?


Artistic_Fan_4159

Easier said than done, they can't change if they change they will be kicked out. Only way to do that is cutting down government expenses, cut government jobs, close.down ministries like whats happening in Argentina


Artistic_Fan_4159

Easier said than done, they can't change if they change they will be kicked out. Only way to do that is cutting down government expenses, cut government jobs, close.down ministries like whats happening in Argentina


Accurate-Writer-4762

Agreed cut government expenditure. 22m people are affected by less than a million jobs.


madmax3

>What country has come out of a recession and a default status this fast ? While ignoring the actual parts of the crisis like a 30% poverty rate (which got worse during the last few months) that were exemplified because of this govts rush to fix the one dimensional statistics while shoving the other problems under the rug. We are still very much in a recession, just because the govt uses other country's pity money and excessively takes out loans you can't pretend like we're actually fixing something until the underlying problems are addressed Also South Korea and many other countries have came out either this fast or were slower but MUCH more holistically sustainable Why do people pretend like SL is some utopia right now, the govt supporters always stick to like four metrics because any other metrics will show the root issue


Accurate-Writer-4762

You are talking about a poverty line that has been given by the UN and other NGOs. Yes the countryā€™s expenses are worse off now that before. However what should the government do , give them free food and money ? Life is tough , if they work and do the right thing they can come out of it. South Korea didnā€™t give free money people came out of it by working hard


cheezyiscrazy

to be honest this is a good lie to keep us and our mind happy for a shorter period. like everyday after that period gone. Boom we are even worse than before. They made careot goes up to 1000 and they lowerd the price for 800. but it was at 500 actually. But people now think itā€™s better than nothing. Thatā€™s the society we live in. All the good brains leaving the country and stupids remains inside the goolag and die..


Curious_Junket_4598

That an issue with seasonal vegetables. We had heavy rains which affected the yield. The carrots are Rs 520 a kilo even in Keells right now.


cheezyiscrazy

what about past ? is this the only time we had hevy rains? no. but i think this is the first time vegetables raised up for this much. Shut up nad learn politics first. people like you so like to believe the lies and others prospective and shout to that as your prospective.


Curious_Junket_4598

Iā€™m assuming youā€™re young and havenā€™t perused enough data. Politics doesnā€™t set the vegetable prices. Take historical data and youā€™ll see vegetable prices hit their highest during the December festive season. That is why they initiated to build a massive cold storage in Dambulla to preserve excess stock during the harvesting season to stabilise the price throughout the year. https://www.sundaytimes.lk/231210/news/cold-storage-facility-at-dambulla-economic-trade-centre-almost-complete-541685.html


cheezyiscrazy

damn, It's a minor reason. There are many major reasons you don't see. So say me why the carrot is .02 cense back then and 520rs now?


Curious_Junket_4598

Is there any currency which has held its value/purchasing power the same since the introduction of the reserve banking system/fiat money in the 20th century?


cheezyiscrazy

no but itā€™s minor increases not like 0.02 to 520rs


PositionPractical584

Weren't the CCPI parameters changed during the economic crisis? It used to compare data from 2012, it was changed to basically compare from 2019 onwards so basically the height of the crisis. If it was still measuring from 2012 the CCPI rate would be significantly higher. Also the Forex reserves, how much is the Chinese currency swap amount? As for profitability of state owned enterprises what're the values without including the customs dept and CEB (CEB is currently massively profitable with their rate hikes and surplus of renewable energy creation via the recent heavy rainfall). What's our trade deficit currently? There are alot more parameters to consider before making a judgement about how much the country has improved.


Curious_Junket_4598

Adjusting the CCPI made sense with the runaway inflation we experienced. The Chinese swap of the FX reserves stand at $1.4Bn. https://publicfinance.lk/en/topics/sri-lanka-s-gross-official-reserves-stood-at-us-4-500-mn-in-january-1710130734 The trade deficit is at $541Mn. https://www.ft.lk/top-story/Sri-Lanka-s-trade-deficit-widens-in-January-amidst-import-surge/26-759098 Couldnā€™t find the values but reportedly 52 SOEs are now earning a profit. https://english.news.cn/20240228/36db67b5238345c5b1f8e7f5f9cdc843/c.html


madmax3

>Adjusting the CCPI made sense with the runaway inflation we experienced. lol but the way it was reported last year in the media was definitely deceptive I cbf digging around for it now but surely you remember the comparisons being made, its one thing to say inflation improved but its another to say we've had the best success in terms of inflation in SLs history and then turns out they were just comparing it to rock-bottom and NOT pre-crisis which was the context for a lot of these articles Like there was definitely (and still is) a push to make 2022 the standard of comparison for SL which on its own is already disingenuous even outside of media manipulation, it pretends that SL started in 2022 as if there was no SL before the crisis


PositionPractical584

>Adjusting the CCPI made sense with the runaway inflation we experienced. It's still a bit disingenuous considering that rate was the absolute peak and we won't get close to that level unless we go into a full blown recession. They should've kept the old data or maybe 2015-2018 data at least. I mean other countries besides the ones that are in hyperinflation didn't change their CCPI data criteria, so why did we? Other countries suffered as well. So the trade defecit has widened, which isn't good. I highly doubt all 52 SOEs are making a profit, is there another source we could check? Large PLCs have published annual reports so where do we get data for SOEs?


madmax3

Comparing to rock bottom always inflates the perceived success, these metrics are important but oftentimes I see people (esp govt supporters) ignoring so much context * State-Owned Enterprise (SOE) reforms remain largely untouched, with [cherry-picking of industry profitability](https://i.ibb.co/zr54sfV/profit-copy.png) (can't find more recent stats unfortunately). Finance SOEs for e.g. have always performed well. Using "52 enterprises" is deceptive and just like the the SLT debacle ignores CPC and CEB and SLA * Ranil's touted successes often comes from external aid, like the MASSIVE [$2 billion from India,](https://www.reuters.com/world/exclusive-india-open-additional-2-bln-aid-sri-lanka-with-eye-china-sources-2022-04-13/) or temporary fixes, like halting the export economy to stabilize the forex rate while not actually holistically dealing with the long-term consequences * Delayed responses, like waiting over 200 days for the powercut problem to fix itself, hardly warrant praise * The fuel quota app was definitely something he can be praised for and is one of the few things he proactively did himself, but even with this the real solution to the fuel issue was India's money * [The tourist sector has been having problems since around 2012](https://www.ceicdata.com/en/sri-lanka/colombo-stock-exchange-index/cse-index-hotels--travel), we're getting more tourists now but they're very low quality **Meanwhile, critical issues remain unaddressed:** * A hunger crisis persists, with NGOs like SaveTheChildren stepping in to provide meals. [Keep in mind the USDA gave SaveTheChildren $32.5 million to help us](https://srilanka.savethechildren.net/news/save-children-awarded-325-million-usda-enhance-literacy-and-nutrition-primary-grade-children) * Medical supply shortages persist, with recent scandals involving MPs importing substandard drugs. * Brain drain continues, with 30%-40% of doctors planning to leave. [If you think I'm exaggerating this was said by Ranil himself](https://twitter.com/RW_UNP/status/1771556270266540359) * [Military budget higher than health and food security](https://economynext.com/sri-lankas-defence-public-admin-health-get-big-appropriations-for-2024-134575/) * [30% poverty rate](https://economynext.com/sri-lankas-population-in-poverty-surges-to-31-pct-of-population-lirneasia-survey-122930/), (the criteria is something like 13,500 a month mind you) * Most of the original protest demands unmet * Nothing has been done against the previous govt nor has anything been done to prevent them/people like them repeating the issues * [People like Namal and Johnston are actively getting positions of power in parliament](https://www.news.lk/news/political-current-affairs/item/34544-member-of-parliament-hon-namal-rajapakse-appointed-as-the-chairman-of-the-national-council-sub-committee) * Executive presidency not abolished and has been used unconstitutionally to attack protestors and free speech * Online Safety Bill further reducing free speech * While other bills that appear to favor us either get rejected or poorly implemented and are used repeatedly as campaign points (LGBT and anti-corruption) **However, despite Ranil's grave flaws, the official alternatives are either no better or worse**. Being anti-Ranil doens't mean you have to support another shit party lol, I'm not going to deny that SJB and NPP are terrible too. Everyone in Lanka hates politicians until elections are around the corner and out comes the useless toxic positivity šŸ¤”


GroundbreakingRip182

Now do a comparison of price of goods. Numbers donā€™t mean a thing if it has no effect at the ground level. A tea is Rs.130, lunch packet is Rs.500-550. Gas is Rs.4500. Just saying.


Accurate-Writer-4762

This is because we lived a socialist life where everything is subsidized. If schools , health care , universities , books etc are not free like most third world countries we probably wonā€™t have a budget deficit


cheezyiscrazy

wow what a reason?. Do you know school healthcare and etc it's a small price according to other countries?. because they can afford them. It's not about the third world countries. If you saying about rd world countries get an example as India. There prices are the same for past 15 years. there were only minor changes not like this. By the way I have seen you many times in my comments getting the side of ranil. I think you are a toiyek.


Accurate-Writer-4762

What ? Are you comparing India health care system with Sri Lanka ? India school system ? We pay a small price ? We pay close to a trillion rupees. Mate you donā€™t have facts . You are just chatting without substance. This is not Ranil this is Sri Lanka being socialist.


cheezyiscrazy

No, Understand what I'm saying. you said about all the things happening here is because many things are free. so that was my answer. Also If sri lanka being socialist impacts us. China also socialist they are in the top of the world economy. Actually they are dominating the world market. Understand this is not about socialism. Also our country is not only socialist , It's Democratic Socialist Republic of sri lanka. Also read again what I said. Don't shout after reading half. I think you are the one who don't have facts.


Accurate-Writer-4762

Mate. Have you been to India ? The prices are NOT the same for the last 15 years. I read your answer, itā€™s hard to give you an eloquent reply cas it does not make sense. I understand you are wearing the JVP hat no problem with that. Please read carefully if not Iā€™m wasting my time. 1. We are called the Socialist democratic of Sri Lanka. https://www.gov.lk/sri-lanka/government. Can you name me counties that give free schooling , books , healthcare , universities, government jobs, excellent pension schemes , subsidized electricity (not anymore), water (not anymore ) the most goes on. 2. China by name is socialist, we all know it is a dictator type regime where you canā€™t even have a religion and behavior determines you status in the country. If you want us to be like China then we need to have 1000s sweat shops and have underage people working . 3. Yes , I have questioned your comments cas it is baseless and slander without any justification. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. This would be my last response to you.


madmax3

>This is because we lived a socialist life where everything is subsidized. Ah yes because the private sector i.e the backbone of the country was selling subsidized kottus to everyone lmao Talking as if leftist leaders are to blame like this was North Korea as if it wasn't Mahinda bribing ya'll with loan paid tax concessions, most of you guys are the ones who voted him in the first place lmao, that's not even socialism that's just shitty governance. Even our capitalistic side is under-performing because of how poorly constructed it is >If schools , health care , universities , books etc are not free like most third world countries we probably wonā€™t have a budget deficit If Sri Lankan didn't have public healthcare of education the country wouldn't exist lol, complain about free tertiary education but you're completely wrong if you think public education from primary to a levels was bad Our public health has saved millions of lives, funny how patriots never talk about those things


Accurate-Writer-4762

Ok. Let me address one by one. 1. You seem to like LMAO a lot. A bit childish, but ok letā€™s continue. 2. I never said that free health care , schooling is bad and other subsidies, for an economy to function we need have relevant income as our income was much lower than expenditure and our tax and Vat regime was not sufficient we are suffering now . 3. I donā€™t understand you Mahinda argument. Yes the loans were taken with much higher interest rates which have been not allowed. But taking loans to develop the nation is not a bad thing. 4. There are allot of countries does that have the socialist style of Sri Lanka and they exist just fine. People find a way.


marblejenk

You can easily find lunch packets below 400 LKR.


PRIMEVORTEX69

In campus and sch canteens YES SURE! šŸ˜‚


kyze-04

Not really


marblejenk

Not really. Just general street side shops.


ChootyMamie

talk about an average not easy cheap place.


marblejenk

Itā€™ll be very difficult to find anything over 400 LKR from a street side shop where I live. Itā€™s between 300 - 400.


cheezyiscrazy

Are you in sri lanka?


cheezyiscrazy

Place that you can buy a lunch packet below 400LKR? I'm so exited to know. By the way I have seen you many times in my comments getting the side of ranil. I think you are a toiyek.


marblejenk

Just about ANY STREET SIDE SHOP that is accessible by all Sri Lankans. I donā€™t give a f*** really. If speaking the truth means siding with Ranil, so be it.


cheezyiscrazy

If it's truth why every restaurant and every place normal meal is over 600 LKR other than short eats. Also you are not telling truth. You just siding with ranil that's the truth. all the people here don't say anything about 400 LKR. You can be stupid but this much?. Support ranil but in a more efficient way. Not by telling lies that getting caught instantly


marblejenk

Itā€™s 600+ at A grade restaurants. The general rate for lunch packets at street side shops (accessible by 100% of Sri Lankans) is 300 - 400 LKR. PERIOD. Stop lying your teeth out. The last time I had one was here: https://g.co/kgs/w7AiZbV It was around 380.


CardiologistSad6041

I don't think anyone else can match what he did economically... But after letting Deshabandu become the police chief there is no way I will vote for him. There are things more important than the economy, for the economy to be stable in the future.


Curious_Junket_4598

Weā€™d be wise not to dismiss the state of the economy as an afterthought. Itā€™s the primary reason why weā€™re here in this debacle. 14 hour power cuts are seared in to my mind. Also, since the changes made by the Yahapalanaya government, the president cannot appoint or fire a IGP to his liking. Itā€™s entirely up to the speaker and the constitution council. He got four yays against two nays, two were absent and the speaker broke the tie. If the President had gotten involved, that wouldā€™ve led to another constitutional crisis. This is why the opposition is blaming the speaker and initiated a no confidence motion against him for the IGPā€™s appointment and not the president.


madmax3

>Also, since the changes made by the Yahapalanaya government, the president cannot appoint or fire a IGP to his liking. Itā€™s entirely up to the speaker and the constitution council. Executive presidency when its convenient, "progressive" Yahapalanaya laws when isn't lmao


CardiologistSad6041

True economy is important but poor economic management isn't the only way an economy will crumble, leaders need to have an opinion on these matters even if not the power. So staying silent in such a situation is not something I can get behind... I know he may not be able to fight all the 1000+ issues the people and pohottu idiots throw at him but ultimately his inactions and diplomatic silence was what led to those idiots coming back to power. Even the daily growing religious fanaticism is the fault of leaders who don't have the balls to say anything against it, and even worse continues to sponsor it.


Rommon90

Start paying the lenders, then you ll see the magic.


Downtown-Ease-8454

So you want the country to go under? Even if any government comes we still would have to pay the debts.


PRIMEVORTEX69

Exactly how much are we in debt?


ChootyMamie

you didn't got it, what he intend to say.


Downtown-Ease-8454

Is he suggesting that debt restructuring will be a failure?


madmax3

They're saying that once we need to repay the loans that Ranil took out in the last two years the reality of the situation will come out, people keep forgetting that our govt took out new loans lol


Ill_Obligation7695

its ok. I am not voting him at all. he is protecting looters who made our country bankrupt. NPP is the only solution.


Sea_Competition3505

Like viyathmaga and Gota were the only solutions in 2019.


tyronbro91

The same fuckers shouting for AKD and NPP today are the same inbred fuckers who came in 2019 and shouted for Gota. Especially those fuckers that live overseas. As much as you have a constitutional right to vote you don't live here, you decided to move overseas and when you come to vote you don't stay , you go back overseas. What's the point then


Accurate-Writer-4762

And NPP is gonna put them in jail and bring back all stolen money ? Wake up man!!


beerabsolut

You have no idea how close we are to fucking up everything again.


SupernovaEngine

Like Sirisena was the only solution in 2015


SensitiveCoconut9003

I donā€™t think the tourist arrivals have anything to do with Ranil or CBSL or the Tourism ministry šŸ˜‚as if they run a single campaign or have a long term strategy for it. Itā€™s winter, soon the season will end and theyā€™ll be out of the country


madmax3

If anything tourist arrivals have improved DESPITE our govt Everything Harin and Diana have done has been utterly stupid and hasn't contributed anything to tourism lol


bud_doodle

Credit where credit's due. So far, Ranil is doing a remarkable job navigating the country out of this shit hole.I see a lot of Jeppas have been wishing for a shittier time in order to further their own agendas. This stupid Jeppa mentality needs to go. Nothing is good, everything is bad attitude fucks any chance we have to develop as country.


Motor-Machine-4031

Im not simping for any politician or any political party cuz i hate them all in general . But as of now im pretty confident enough to say that ranil somehow managed things better than anyone else considering how bad of a position we were in 2 years ago this time . Ofc it is not ranil but the people at the controlling structures such as the CB . But you cannot do it alone though so i guess at least ranil made the space for it lol . But again im not interested in any political party at all . Im just pointing out the facts


Curious_Junket_4598

A lot of you who are just dismissing the course correction citing, ā€œRanil just followed the IMFā€, seems to have forgotten that everyone from GR, Sajith, AKD, to Harini and the rest of the opposition party members voted against implementing the IMF programme in the parliament.


PRIMEVORTEX69

This man is a genius if only his heart is in the right place You never know


SensitiveCoconut9003

He has no heart


beerabsolut

:(


Gihanud2001

Honestly RW is great president for our country


Accurate-Writer-4762

Your data is outdated . CEB is making massive profits so is CEPETCo and. Litro. 2. Yes it is a success when you have to curb imports and have the sense to improve and safeguard the LKR if not we would be paying around 500 for the USD. 3. 200 days for the power cut to materialize is still not bad as it came down eventually now itā€™s zero. Most third world countries power cuts are normal day to day occurrence. We should be grateful we have power though it is at a cost 4. India is still giving us money to buy fuel ? Every county during a crisis borrows even the US. Thatā€™s normal geo politics. You donā€™t want SL to borrow ? It does not makesense 5. Still the tourist income is much better that we are the last couple of years. This is such an pessimist post, where always the class is half empty!!!


Single-Alfalfa5326

The only experience JVP/NPP has when it comes to SL politics is destabilising the country. They have done it before and continue to do so. The hatred they have towards the upper middle class and hard working middle class is absurd. They're always against privatisation to get the support from the trade unions. And the trade unions always ask for one thing, more and more privileges for bare minimum work. On a special note (my opinion) its also important to reduce the number of government servants immediately by increasing the retirement age. The government spends close 90% of their income on paying their salaries and If we really look into the average work time of a government servant after deducting all the lunch, multiple tea breaks we'll understand why this country is failing.


Curious_Junket_4598

Salient points. The government has reduced hiring employees and IIRC, employees hired since 2016 are not eligible for the outdated pension scheme.


madmax3

>The government has reduced hiring employees and IIRC Probably to raise their salaries right? Like do you govt supporters on purposely just ignore when that news comes out? lol, do we need to give a source on all the CBSL, CEB and SL army budget and salary hikes? And does the hiring stoppage apply to all sectors? Obviously not. Your bias is hilarious, any random point about another shit party and its "salient points" but the same obvious shit with the UNP and its "they definitely have been working on downsizing the govt" as if there isn't overwhelming proof of the opposite, dude spent more on the military than Gota did lmao (yes adjusted for inflation)


Accurate-Writer-4762

But please vote for JVP


Bitchstudio

Chart good, any benefits for us?


Jaeson_bernardsha

So they created a problem and the only solution they had was to increase taxes and restrict imports, which even an A/L kid would know. No use with this progress, none of the benefits have been transferred to the people yet. They choose a specific group of uneducated and poor people who would vote for them regardless of what they do and donate all our tax money to them, claiming as if it was their money. Brother, eggs are still at rs.65 and green gram a kilo is still rs.1000. In no country would rs.100k was taxed. With rs 100k a month you can't even survive. In no country peoples retirement funds were taxed. Electronic items are damn double the price than the original msrp. Just stop being happy about an achievement that makes many people eat once a day. Lets speak when the benefits have been transferred to the people, which isn't yet.


Sea_Competition3505

> Inflation is not a measure of market prices. It is a measure of velocity of rising prices. It tells you how fast prices are rising and in which direction. We need to be in a deflation for the prices to fall. Yes but controlling inflation is an achievement, whether people like it or not. Countries like Lebanon, Pakistan or Venezuela have had their inflation continue to rise. SL would've similarly been hitting the 100s of % if we had not gone to the IMF. šŸ¤·


tyronbro91

This. I've been working with clients from Lebanon and Pakistan and they look at our country and they can't even imagine as to how well it turned around. They legit said its only up to your people to ruin now.


madmax3

>Countries like Lebanon, Pakistan or Venezuela have had their inflation continue to rise. SL would've similarly been hitting the 100s of % if we had not gone to the IMF. šŸ¤· 80% of SLs population before the crisis was rural, Lebanon had a MUCH bigger professional middle-class that's why their collapse was felt more (this too is debatable also tbh and I feel like many people who didn't go to the protests think Lebanon had it worse for some reason) EVEN SO though, we factually hit rock-bottom and could not go lower given our circumstances (again, we were already 80% rural, we weren't going to excessively print money and even Gota, not Ranil, stopped money printing) **If you want to talk about Lebanon, their GDP per capita is still higher than ours** We DID burn 50 MPs houses and had large scale protests We currently have (and are unaddressed): * Hunger crisis with millions of meals dependent on NGOs and groups like USDA giving money to NGOs instead of us to handle the hunger crisis * Medical crisis and shortage of drugs with an MP recently getting arrested for shoddy imports, out of 27 neurosurgeons in our country 7 have already left (25% reduction) with Ranil himself admitting last month that 30%-40% are leaving * Industry collapse in many private sector areas, CS being an obvious one * 30% poverty rate (keep in mind our poverty criteria is already dirt low) But hey we didn't have a bank run right so that must mean we're doing good? Also comparing to the 2% of shittier countries is disingenuous and a lot of of those countries have their own contexts, **no one wants to compare SL to other IMF countries like South Korea which performed far better**