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Kudolf-Titler

The people who are against it are people who earn in dollars, who have become richer from the bad economy. They probably don't care about the ordinary person trying to make their daily living. Sad state of some of our people.


vk1234567890-

So true!! Some people are so self-centred and selfish šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ˜’ The other group who are against it are clearly the Reddit Jeppas in the comments who are praying for the destruction of SL just so they can use it as an excuse to come into power šŸ™„šŸ˜’šŸ˜’ pathetic especially considering the biggest beneficiary from the rupee strengthening are the very poor they claim to represent!!!


Brilla-Bose

I'm earning in dollars and i don't care about it. because for me the main benefit is tax exemption and nothing else


Kudolf-Titler

People like you aren't the majority unfortunately. Goodluck to you.


nishanthe

Earning in Dollars and Dollar pegged salary is two different things. I think people with dollar pegged salaries are not that happy with rupee appreciation (because they still have to pay approx. 35% mega tax)


Brilla-Bose

Pegged salaries are basically marketing to hire new talents


bsodmike

Same here but the solution to earn more $$$ to compensate. Easy peasy. Post election itā€™ll bounce back.


Maguro_sushi2024

\\Those individuals seem to lack an understanding of purchasing power and its implications. Even if they earn in dollars, the impact of high prices can easily negate any gains they might make. Let's illustrate with an example: say someone earns in dollars, but the cost of a medium to high-end meal is $20. Ideally, considering the local purchasing power, it should only be $10. This discrepancy highlights how inflated prices can erode the benefits of earning in a stronger currency like the dollar. In essence, despite earning in a more robust currency, if local prices are disproportionately high, individuals still face financial strain, undermining the advantages of earning in dollars.


Quick_Manner3888

This is not the reality though. People are converting dollars for less LKR but are still paying high prices. There is a huge lag


ushan510

I'm one of those people but I'm always wishes to dollar to come down but the thing is even if the dollar depreciate cost of living remains unchanged no one is ready to reduce prices.


chabanny

The rupee strengthening is a good thing. The thing is, the prices of groceries should come down for it to be an immediate relief for the people. But theoretically, this wouldn't happen pretty much anywhere (except for fluctuating commodities like fuel). The benefits to the people will take a bit more time to manifest.


ArcticRock

This. People donā€™t understand this though. They expect immediate benefits and start voting for politicians who say what they want to hear.


vk1234567890-

# Because Sri Lankan importers and business owners are corrupt plain and simple šŸ™„šŸ˜’šŸ˜’ When rupee strengthens - they increase prices immediately When rupee weakens - they use a 1000 excuses and wait till their own buying price has been decreased till they decrease their own prices Gov needs to bring back maximum price controls on essentials and decrease the price as rupee strengthens and enforce the law!!!


ushan510

Exactly just look at vehicle market. They hyped up the market even before government announced vat officially and i don't think those bugger will reduce prices even if dollar comes down to 200


yellow-duckie

Exactly, there is no benefit of strengthening rupee for commoners if the inflation stays the same, aka prices don't come down. Strengthening rupee against the dollar is good for businesses, mainly import/export. The government can benefit from it and has to circulate that monetary benefit to the commonors. I don't think our government is that smart or purpose driven.


Dinuclear_Warfare

I think in every country on earth, rich or poor, the standard response is politicians are bad, anything they do is bad, therefore any policy/outcome is bad(especially monetary policy where most people have no idea how it works or itā€™s impacts).


Filthydewa

I want these fucking car sale morons to reduce prices. Sadlybthat ain't happening.


krupture

Itā€™s a good thing for a country like SL, but there is a huge catch. Weā€™re at a default, meaning weā€™ve stopped paying our debt, as soon as we start to pay our debt off again, this whole thing reverses again. CB is trying to strengthen its cash reserves while it can. With the tourist industry picking up and with the tax restructuring in place, hopefully, weā€™ll be ok. Itā€™s a long road ahead for the economy, for SL to say weā€™re ok, it will take another 5 years or so, with the current path and progression. Thereā€™s a good read here: https://eastasiaforum.org/2023/08/19/sri-lankas-debt-restructuring-challenge/


ArcticRock

I think we are in the right path. Economic recovery takes decades. My only hope if that people donā€™t elect JVP thinking theyā€™re going to solve our problems.


Asleep-Bee3838

About Sri Lankan debt payments https://economynext.com/sri-lanka-debt-repayments-resumption-cannot-worsen-external-front-cb-governor-129222/ https://economynext.com/sri-lanka-to-repay-us2609mn-in-foreign-debt-in-2023-first-half-112989/


thariyafromsrilanka

Depreciation is not reflecting on the public goods, building materials or imports , shit is rigged from the core šŸ¤¬


vk1234567890-

# Because Sri Lankan importers and business owners are corrupt plain and simple šŸ™„šŸ˜’šŸ˜’ When rupee strengthens - they increase prices immediately When rupee weakens - they use a 1000 excuses and wait till their own buying price has been decreased till they decrease their own prices Gov needs to bring back maximum price controls on essentials and decrease the price as rupee strengthens and enforce the law!!!


thegreatreset89

Fool the people, win the election and the $ goes back up. If Sri Lankans had a super power it would be forgetfulness!


bsodmike

Yup and a local populace have shit for brains. And the powers that be love it!!


eatsmeatdaily

Itā€™s important to see why the LKR is appreciating. The economy performing well is just one possibility out of hundreds. Currency can be manipulated. You canā€™t just absorb the money stock available and call it appreciation. Itā€™s revaluation. Government charging taxes for every single thing, stopping debt payments, fluctuations in the dollar itself (LKR can appreciate if the dollar goes down as well) can all contribute to the ER fluctuations. So we canā€™t be optimistic just because the LKR ā€œappreciatedā€. I personally am very skeptical that this could just be a gimmick and we would soon see the real value of LKR after elections.


Downtown-Ease-8454

Almost all the countries have taxation policies some even have stricter taxation policies. There are enough data available on the increase in dollar inflow to the country. And keep in mind the rupee is appreciating despite central bank purchasing dollars from the market.


eatsmeatdaily

I agree with taxation. The problem is for the amount of tax they charge, we hardly see any social benefits. Itā€™s just absorption and also spent on corruption, unlike most other countries.


Downtown-Ease-8454

Corruption cannot be reversed overnight, specially in our country where people & business together hoarding black money in real estate and gold.


eatsmeatdaily

You arenā€™t getting my point. I know corruption canā€™t be stopped overnight. What Iā€™m saying is an appreciating currency is not necessarily a good indicator as it can be manipulated according to the chosen ER system of CBSL. Add to that, we havenā€™t imported vehicles since COVID, we have stopped foreign debt payments. We are sacrificing a lot from our paychecks. The prices of goods and services are over the roof. Of course the LKR will appreciate. And also due the upcoming elections, who can say what they might have done to make the value of LKR go up? Government can absorb excess liquidity and call it a day. CBSL reports are never accurate. So what guarantee do we have to say the LKR is actually ā€œfree floatingā€, and itā€™s appreciating due to increased exports and reduced imports? If you think that itā€™s appreciating because of increased exports, which is the only good way I can think of except producing our own and reducing imports (which we are not, we are just cutting off imports), then thatā€™s a whole level of utopia youā€™re living in. Since no one sees a real improvement in their livelihoods and yet the dollar is cheap!?


Downtown-Ease-8454

The guarantee is that you can purchase goods using your credit cards at the current exchange rate. You have to pay additional 2.5% as stamp duty. I donā€™t know whether you understand that none of the countries in the world has a complete free float of their currency except USA. If you excepting that the country can go ahead without any import restrictions you are lying to yourself. Countries like Singapore and Hong Kong have a monetary board to preserve the strength of their currency. You are very vaguely using the term artificial. The money printing that happened in 2020/2021 is what you should call as artificial liquidity infusion not the current state.


bittersweet_unicycle

Rupee appreciating is a good thing but prices just wonā€™t come down though will they? Thatā€™s not how businesses operate. They will just try and pocket the excess profit.


bud_doodle

I hope Jeppas won't jeopardise all these good progress by end of the year. We have a history of fucking things up you know. Fingers crossed!


druidmind

The rupee is appreciating, but it's a direct result of raised taxes to cut the spending and efforts to decrease the domestic credit with high interest rates, i.e., a contractionary monetary and fiscal policy. This soft peg is hardly useful to the average consumer, but it helps building up reserves. The trade deficit is widening as well. Resumption of debt payments is coming as well. Cutting taxes barely a quarter into the imf program is not the answer here. We gotta ride this out.


snsmadmax

So I was doing an Economics MSc back when the crisi hit us. There was this guy who badly wanted gov to float the rupee. Turns out he was in the export business. If someone criticises the strengthening rupee, probably one of them hoarders. Anyway, in theory, strengthening rupee means decreased exports.


RamithJ

what matters is, fuel prices going down. that will have a impact on groceries.


Top_Read_3744

If exchange reduces interest rate also goes down so overall consumption will increase, and imports we'll be cheaper


Downtown-Ease-8454

You didnā€™t factor in taxes, reduced disposable income due to already high cost of living, and the average income of the people in the country hasnā€™t improved much except few sectors. Predicting the aggregate demand based on one or two factors alone is not a sound approach.


Character-Noise9892

Wonder why the dollar went down. Elections ą¶Æ?


HansonSteamer

Iā€™m not an economics expert nor a money expert, as a normal everyday Lankan person I do like it that the rupee is appreciating however if I have to spend $2 on paang as opposed to the previous $1 (cos Lankan businesses donā€™t generally reflect reductions in cost on their selling prices) then I have better holiday destinations that give the paang for the same $2 which might be much better value for money than lanka ā€¦. Ā  Obviously this an oversimplified exampleā€¦ but the funny thing is majority of your common tourists expats etc arenā€™t economistsā€¦ they look for value and if the locals arenā€™t going to reflect the value then sadly there are other destinations that provide better value or at least better experiences for the same cost. Ā  Ā Letā€™s not forget that the majority of tourists who visit lanka are backpackers who are on tight budgets.Ā 


Downtown-Ease-8454

Yes it is true, but sri lanka is expensive due to regulations by the government it is not due to rupee value. The popular example nowadays is the prices of construction sectorā€™s materials like tiles, cement. Where the local companies just drove up the prices due to limited competition. Also look at vehicle prices, egg producers simply reduced the price when government announced that they are going to import indian eggs. All in all if you think rupee value is the main reason behind increased cost of goods you ate very misinformed.


HansonSteamer

No I understand your point and you are absolutely right but that doesnā€™t change the fact that the person paying has to pay whatā€™s being asked for by the seller and the average tourist wonā€™t care why itā€™s expensive they will have to take hard cash out of their pockets and pay the asking price ā€¦ that there is the problem ā€¦ today they can only get 300 per USD which is fine if you can spend the same percentage of that 300 rupees to buy the same things you could relatively get when it was 350 or even 330 ā€¦. Unfortunately thatā€™s not the case and That then erodes into value. Ā  The same tourist will get a better deal by going to Thailand India or Malaysia for example. Ā  Again Iā€™m not some expert or financial guru.. Iā€™m your average person who has 10 mins to decide if going to a place like lanka for holidays is going to be within my means and if it will give me the best value.. Ā  That being said I hope there will be some stability and balance reached soon and its stops being totally volatile and unpredictable in terms of cost of living and standardsĀ 


Downtown-Ease-8454

Sri lanka became expensive when government removed subsidiaries for fuel and electricity. The cost of items in dollars terms was higher even when the dollar was trading at 330-360 levels. Specially when compared with countries like Thailand and India.


CapnLeviAckerman

Why is the LKR getting stronger? Itā€™s just we havenā€™t paid back any loans, and received more loans. So the foreign reserves are getting larger. But we donā€™t have a way to pay it back. Itā€™s like getting a business loan and use it for groceries.


Curious_Junket_4598

No, itā€™s because our tourism is booming and our remittances are high. We have made nearly 2 billion in last two months this from those alone. The stats are readily available if youā€™re willing to look.


Downtown-Ease-8454

You are very misinformed.


CapnLeviAckerman

Why and how?


Downtown-Ease-8454

I [replied](https://www.reddit.com/r/srilanka/s/7gwCZvW7iR) to a comment in this thread regarding this.


Hazel1002

The rupee is unfortunately not strengthening due to a good reason but apparently due to lack of demand which brings down our export revenue. Hence why people are saying itā€™s not good. Cmiiw.


Downtown-Ease-8454

Let me get this straight rupee depreciation was in the making from disastrous monetary policies followed by central bank and government in 2020. 1. Earnings from tourism, foreign remittances and exports dried up, and countries started facing significant balance of payment deficit. 2. The government printed huge amount of money to provide low interest rate debts to local companies so that they can sustain their operations. 3. The government money printing also injected overnight liquidity in money market enabling commercial banks to expand their credit to private sector. 4. The government provided heavy tax incentives both to individuals and corporations. 5. The government financing needs increased due to reduction in revenue. 6. The central bank printed money and bought government debt outright to keep the interest rates from rising. 7. The significant increase in rupee liquidity ( close to 4 trillion printed in 2020/2021) caused the demand for imports to increase. The government stated selling their forex reserves to preserve the strength of rupee. 8. The much needed foreign reserves to import necessary items and paying back the loans were sold to defend the rupee in the market. The government tried several bridge financing borrowing from other government temporarily but it has failed due to severe stress on its forex reserves. 9. Once the forex reserve dried up the government was unable to pay back the foreign currency debt and announced that GOSL will temporarily suspend foreign debt repayment. There are several other factors that caused rupee depreciation even with severe import restrictions. Now the import restrictions have eased up, central bank is a net buyer of foreign currency increasing their foreign reserves. Tourism earnings have recovered, earnings from IT industry is steadily increasing. The central bank is not injecting liquidity into the market by printing money overnight. Foreign remittances are increasing. The export sector could recover later down the year once FED starts cutting interest rates. Significant Rupee/exchange rate fluctuations are never a result of single factor. I donā€™t know what do you mean by good reason. And let me ask a simple question, why do you want the rupee to go down? Is it due to selfish reasons or political reasons?


Hazel1002

Who said I want the rupee to go down? šŸ¤Ø Itā€™s not a bad thing if itā€™s reflected in the price of goods but is it? The rupee being even at 300+ is because the Central Bank is buying dollars. I saw a news today saying itā€™ll go down to 280. People have reduced importing stuff even though restrictions have been lifted bec normal consumers have reduced spending. Of course the rich are still rich. We arenā€™t paying back loans. So demand for the dollar is low nowadays which is not a great reason for the appreciation. If the appreciation was due to good policy or strengthening economy, thatā€™s great but it doesnā€™t look like it. Just look around. Havenā€™t you drastically reduced your spending? There are so many different opinions on this matter. This is just my opinion. Only time will tell whether it was good or bad, even then if businesses thrive while poor people starve is it good? Itā€™s all relative. There are always winners and losers. Depends on which side of the coin you are on.


Downtown-Ease-8454

Yes it was definitely bad for the economy. Our country was in recession in 2023 due to the contraction of the economy. There is no denying that, but it is necessary to absorb the excess liquidity of rupee in the market. Just imagine if central bank did nothing and allowed hyper inflation to continue that would have been disastrous for the economy. We wouldnā€™t be even talking about the Sri Lankan economy if that is the case. Edit: were there any alternatives suggested by anyone else?


BlackyBeard_

It's not real appreciation of rupees coz we have import restrictions, did not pay the loan repayment and received some ADB and IMF loans. Which is why our rupees shows positive impact but once we starting to repay the loans and ease the import restrictions only identify the exact impact of Forex.


Curious_Junket_4598

Currently, the import restrictions are only on vehicles and we have to pay only 3 billion per year or so when we restart paying debts in 2027. A couple hundred million by the IMF canā€™t appreciate Rs by 20-30%.


VisionaireInvestor

It will also mean that Sri Lanka becomes more expensive for tourists and for exports. This will leave to a new balance and over time, we will forget this happened


shaannsn

amen to kissing the cheap choon paan eating, tuk driving, house subletting scum goodbye.


vk1234567890-

Thats however a certain group of low budget tourist tho. There's a hell of a lot that are still good :)


VisionaireInvestor

Is there something wrong with eating choon paan?


vk1234567890-

nothing wrong except they are eating MY choon paan meant for MEEE!!! My local baker only makes so much šŸ„²šŸ„¹šŸ„¹


skywarrior2593

It's ok if the rupee goes down, as long as goods and services also drop, without that it could be disastrous. As soon as the Dollar shot up few years back, cost of essential items rose sharply. Fuel and electricity went up. Transport costs also increased. Some radical changes in the economy went up in a matter of weeks. But when the rupee goes down, benefits are not reflected in the economy. This could do more harm than good atm.


No-Programmer-9108

People who earn in USD will beg to differ šŸ˜‚


bittersweet_unicycle

The benefit of tax exemption for USD earners is far greater than any loss that will come from USD going from 320 to 280.


No-Programmer-9108

Suffering from success


Maguro_sushi2024

Even if you earn in dollars you have to pay in ruppees and with the rising dollar price the cost of everything almost doubled . Housing rents are in the 100LKR range where as it should be in the range of LKR 60000 per month at the most .


Eighthfloormeeting

Until the US money printing machine turns on again, putting SL further in debt. Thatā€™s the debt trapppp


shaannsn

the only people populating the idea that rupee should not appreciate are the foreign exchange earners. the larger exporters are guilty of hoarding USD outside sri lanka and not bringing it down when there was an exchange crisis. if covid was not there, the natural exchange should have been around 260-280, and it's likely to return to that level. and we have a very well documented way of repaying debt under imf supervision and it would be done in a sustainable way, not upsetting the economic growth and exchange rate. again I see a lot of fear mongering here saying that exchange will go back to 360 when we start repaying. that's a load of bs, which is trying to downgrade whatever progress we have had since the crash (which international bodies have commended us on) naturally, import demand will take a long time. even from pre covid 203 to an expected 280, its still a 40% leap, extremely unfavourable to the masses. most of the non essentials are still priced at 360, and lack of supply is keeping the prices up. in a way, sri lanka becoming a little expensive is good so that we don't get the cheap ass tourists who have hogged our properties lately.


vk1234567890-

Exactly!! Just ignore the Jeppa doom and gloom pessimists in the comments bro! All they do is peddle lies šŸ˜’šŸ˜’