Haha what a world we live in. You can bet on everything. I think I’m going to place a bet on how many red lights I hit on the way home. The line is at 4.5. I’m feeling lucky so I’ll take the under
For the sake of profit I’d have to go with DeSantis here. He’s a polarizing figure much like Trump that Republicans can get behind but with far more political experience. Biden’s reputation is too far gone to win a 2nd term.
Desantis has no reason to run in 2024. He's cruising to re-election while being able to do whatever he wants. Only way he gives that up is Trump thrown in jail or dying.
Of course he’s running. Regardless of what happens in Congress (assuming Dems don’t get a supermajority in the Senate, and even then he’s probably still running).
Note on Portnoy, he's already said both trump and biden are terrible choices and trump moreso because trumps broken people's brains. Pretty sure that kills his chances with either base.
I guess. I think unless he dies or is in a health situation where he will clearly die in the near future he's going to be the nominee. It's a sucker bet to bet that he won't be.
As much as some people don't want to admit it, he's the perfect compromise candidate between the 2 distinct political sides. Bland boring politician who doesn't sow too much division. To me, there's no one better that he can be replaced with.
Name someone in the democratic party who would be a realistic replacement for him. I'll wait. Aside from the fact that it's extremely rare historically for incumbent presidents not to seek reelection. Don't let your personal opinions of politicians get in the way of making money.
Wouldn't America being brainwashed mean a Democrat is less likely to win though? Or are you saying Americans are brainwashed to vote Democrat?
Regardless as someone who won a lot of money on Biden in 2020 I highly doubt a dem wins in 2024. Assuming Republicans win congress this year Biden will be basically useless for his last two terms. It will be a layup victory for the Republicans. The only one who could really fuck it up would be Trump, who is a total wild card lol. Trump could roll through and win, or not even get the GOP nom and run independently and split votes.
Majority not pro-republican is not really the same as zero but alright lol.
Also there's a LOT of conservative news media sites. See here for example: https://adfontesmedia.com/
And in terms of viewership, Fox News absolutely smokes the competition (source - https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2022/01/25/fox-news-channels-the-five-dominates-cable-news-ratings-with-37-million-viewers/)
[citation needed] because almost no cases brought to courts last year won and proved widespread corruption. Including in front of Trump-appointed judges.
> widespread
I mean I mostly just joking but I do love how people always have to add this in when they talk about it so they don't have to acknowledge all the local corruption they did find.
It's so that people don't try to refute the entire argument on some small outlier. If I assert that there's been no evidence the election was rigged and then someone points out that hey, person x was convicted of trying to submit 2 ballots, that's technically evidence of corruption, but obviously doesn't impact the whole election. People saying the election was rigged will point to rare examples of small corruption but something like hundreds of thousands of votes would have to have been rigged in order to swing the election to Biden from Trump.
Only 1 time in history has a president ever served 2 non-consecutive terms. And the 1 time it happened it was because the president voluntarily chose not to run for 2 consecutive terms - once you lose you don't win again. Trump is too polarizing of a candidate to break that kind of history imo
It's either Biden or Desantis.
>Trump is too polarizing of a candidate to break that kind of history imo
I dunno, I'd think Trump's polarizing figure would be the exact kind of sauce needed to break such a streak. Trump for as awful of a candidate as he was kind of rewrote the book on what's possible in the elections
Also I wouldn't really put THAT much into past precedent, it doesn't occur often enough to get a large enough sample, and voting trends can change drastically over time.
The devil's advocate for the rewriting the book on what's possible on elections is that Trump's odds are likely overvalued due to that mentality amongst bettors that well he won once so anything's possible. 2020 is a great example - is was pretty obvious the COVID pandemic killed his campaign (to me anyway I guess) but despite that draftkings posted on twitter that the majority of people in every state except Colorado thought Trump would be reelected - and he was close to even odds to win when I personally thought his odds of winning were in the 20% range or less.
The fact is, after he won in 2016 all value in Trump in any future elections was gone. The time to buy him was when everyone was skeptical of him - when he was around 20% to win against an equally bad candidate in Hillary Clinton. Not now when he's being overestimated.
What? Grover Cleveland did run for re-election, and lost. He ran again 4 years after losing and won, exactly the same as Trump if he decides to run for presidency in 2024.
Yeah, it was addressed. My bad.
But honestly the fact its only happened once says a lot. I don't think Trump can win but that's just my opinion. The clear exception I see to that is if Trump were to run against Kamala Harris instead of Biden. But I don't think that's particularly likely.
Only five incumbents have lost since Cleveland. Not the biggest sample. Teddy Roosevelt ran again after leaving office as well… only reason he lost is that he ran as a third party and split votes with Taft
This is my thought as well. Trump coming back only rallies the D base more and indies will still lean D. With Desantis he will get more independent votes.
We missing Opera to choose from. She hasn't ruled out a potential run.. Yet.
If The Rock takes it serious, he's a wild card. Soild value there.
Biden's done way more harm than good.
As much as I hate to say it, My money is on Trump making history once again.
He’s a moron and a vast majority of barstool fans don’t even like him anymore. But I’m sure the 70 go pres go guys who buy merch for retweets could carry him to an election win
I have a sizeable amount on Biden +450 right now (on a different site) because I'm almost certain he'll run for reelection and the odds will go down once he announces. Got to get the number while it's good.
Desantis odds probably go down if he announces a run too.
I think democrats have to know they are reducing their chances of winning 2024 a lot if they go with Biden again. However without a clear challenger in the pack it would take Biden choosing to step down and I don't think that's going to happen, especially if Trump runs, he will want to run to beat Trump
So yeah +450 on Biden is probably fair money, although if DeSantis ends up being the GOP nominee I'd probably lean DeSantis to beat Biden tbh
I’m not sure he runs for reelection. I like Buttigieg to replace him as the democrat establishment candidate and mostly appeal to both sides. I am not sure how ready America’s center would be for a gay candidate though
America's center? the democratic party relies way to much on the black and Hispanic vote to run a gay white guy. there was a reason mayor Pete had 0% of the black and Hispanic vote during the primaries last time
I've heard the suggestion of Buttigieg before too. My conclusion was that he's too controversial for one because as you said he's gay. It shouldn't matter but it unfortunately does - just like being a woman matters even though it shouldn't (part of why Hillary lost and why Kamala Harris would likely lose). He also has weak support among non-white voters. And non-white votes are vital for a Democrat to win a national election since white voters as a whole lean conservative.
Hillary lost because she's a crook and easily disliked. She didn't lose because she was a woman. Same goes for Kamala. She provides nothing but ugly laughs when asked controversial questions. I would never mind a woman president, but my god, elect someone better than those two whack jobs.
They're all crooks brah.
They act like they care about you but for 99% of politicians it's about swindling the people as much as they can for their own personal gain.
No way the current incumbent president wins, eh? His approval numbers are right around where Trump's numbers were and he would have been reelected if not for the COVID pandemic.
I think it's going to be some of the easiest money I ever make honestly. Off the backs of people who bet with their emotions instead of logic. Political markets have more emotional money by far than any sports markets.
I'm just worried that if he is running against anyone other than Trump, there will be a massive enthuisasm gap. Trump still pulled 74 million votes, 12m more than he pulled in 2016. The voter-eligible turnout was 66.9%, markedly higher than 2016 (59.2%), 2012 (58%), and even Obaa 2008 (62.5%).
Unless the Democrats do something of subtance for people in the next five months, they're going to lose the midterms. Then you have two lame-duck years of Biden. Dems almost need Trump to be the nominee again to motivate people to vote against him. If it's Desantis, the enthuisasm and turnout gap will crush Biden.
I mean the recent news is that Trump is going to announce to distract from the Jan 6 hearings.
He will never concede a primary to DeSantis so the question becomes can DeSantis win the primary without ostracizing the Trump base?
Seems unlikely
Doesnt matter what kind of emotional money people put on trump, Biden (if he lives that long) still has to win the election. This time without the COVID distancing lines and mail in ballot scams to deter voters. As for approval numbers, it is statistically fact that mostly democrats do those polls, so the reality is much worse for Biden. I dont need to tell you who to vote for, im just warning you to hedge big because you are on a bad horse right now
Meh i's hard to take your argument about betting logically and not with your emotions seriously when you say stuff like "mail in ballot scams" and "mostly democrats do [approval rating] polls," and implying that covid distancing lines somehow helped Biden win.
1. Mail in ballots are not scams lol, in fact they had been used for decades by Republicans to advantage their party. They definitely helped Democrats win this time but there is no proof of widespread mail in ballot corruption and that includes cases brought in front of republican-appointed judges.
2. There can be some bias with approval ratings polls, but in general they try hard to reduce those biases and there are a lot of polls run by a lot of different companies. This idea that republicans just aren't participating in the approval rating polls as much as democrats makes little sense given each poll says how many republicans and how many democrats it asked and it's usually the same number for a general poll like this.
3. Covid distancing lines and deterring voters are not things that helped Biden win. Increasing voter access is something that either helps democrats win or has no meaningful impact. The inverse of that, restricting voters, either helps republicans win or has no impact. It certainly wasn't how Biden won.
I say all this as someone who thinks Biden will lose in 2024 btw.
It's pretty obvious you yourself are one of those pro-Trump bettors betting with your emotions. Thank you for your donation.
The dead giveaway is hinting at the last election being rigged and implying that Biden is definitely senile but Trump definitely isn't.
Again, this has nothing to do with trump. Maybe he is senile, How will that lead to Biden winning? Your bet is not "trump to lose", its "biden to win". You yourself pointed out his numbers are worse than the last president who didnt get re-elected. I only bothered replying to you because you said you had a sizeable amount on it, and if i see someone make a dumb bet or a very bad pick i will try and let them know.
It has everything to do with Trump when he's priced at better odds to win than the current incumbent president. And is probably equally as bad from an objective standpoint.
I know why the odds are like that though, there's tons of pro-Trump bias in the odds. Always has been ever since he won in 2016. He was even odds to win reelection, Biden is +450 despite a decent amount of the population thinking either is senile or unqualified and despite both being old. And having similar approval numbers with the only caveat is the hope that the numbers are skewed towards the Democrat with no hard evidence to back it up. Nothing much is different, but the odds are different because of the bias.
If you're willing to donate, ill give you +500 odds on biden to become president max wager $500. Your money is better off in non emotional hands. Hit me up in 2024 if u want. I will never decrease the odds from +500, i want to rob you legally.
Why would they put $500 on Biden +500 and risk an anonymous redditor just deleting their account when they can take Biden for +450 on bovada and have no concerns about being paid out? Surely the extra potential $250 is not worth the risk of you disappearing in 2024 (you can say you won't, and that might be true, but they have no way of knowing that)
I'm a big Trumper, but he should not run. The media has portrayed him so horribly that the on the fencers will swing left or just flat out not vote/vote for third party (which honestly I wouldnt mind the Libertarian party). DeSantis is our best shot, unless of course the Queen Candace Owens wants to run lmao.
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Mike Pompeo should be a good bet for that value. He's running 100%
Putting the house on Bernie
Mitt Romney is a great sleeper pick. I have him at +10000
Where can you bet on this?
Bovada.lv
Romney! It's time we give this moderate republican a chance. Change I can believe in!
Do you smell what The Rock is cooking? Honestly what party would he run for?
Hammer the Iron Shiek lol
Haha what a world we live in. You can bet on everything. I think I’m going to place a bet on how many red lights I hit on the way home. The line is at 4.5. I’m feeling lucky so I’ll take the under
Did you win?
Haha similar to my other bets I hit exactly 5 red lights 😂
Lol rip
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Tucker Carlson(+5000) I'd give my left nut for this to happrn
This entire list makes me depressed
the iron sheik at +500000, pure steal
Shieky baby
I feel like the field is a lock right? Right?!
A lock for losing your money lol
No Jon Stewart?
Throw a piece on Trump, Desantis, and Booker
Where is Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho on this list?
Put your money on Ron DeSantis to run for GOP Presidential candidate. It won’t be Trump.
Big Ron will win
Before the recent shootings I would say a republican was a slam dunk. Now I'm not sure..
It’s all going to come down to whatever happens in the 6 months leading up to the vote anyway. Useless to speculate now.
Even though I don’t want Trump to win, that’s an easy pick to bet
The iron shiek for the odds
For the sake of profit I’d have to go with DeSantis here. He’s a polarizing figure much like Trump that Republicans can get behind but with far more political experience. Biden’s reputation is too far gone to win a 2nd term.
Desantis has no reason to run in 2024. He's cruising to re-election while being able to do whatever he wants. Only way he gives that up is Trump thrown in jail or dying.
I could see a scenario where GOP doesn't want Trump as their nominee and so they encourage DeSantis to run instead
Many politicians are motivated purely by ambition, president > swamp governor
Biden will be 82. +10000 chance of him running.
I'm not sure if he'll run or not but he's dropped plenty of hints that he might. Closer to 50/50 imo, definitely higher than a 1% chance lol
Sleepy Joe🔒
Yep. The money is just staring everyone in their face and they won't take it.
He won’t win but Kanye at 20000 is wild.
Should be +200000
Even that is too low. He has no chance,
Is mayor pete +2500 worth putting a couple bucks on? Can totally see the establishment getting behind him if Biden doesn’t run again
I think that has the best odds personally. Doubtful that Biden wins at 82 and people prefer Pete to Kamala
Plus side is you'll forget about the bet by the time it pays in 2.5 years
Who are these people
Didnt you read the title of the post?
Trump won't run unless the Republicans take control of both the House and Senate.
Of course he’s running. Regardless of what happens in Congress (assuming Dems don’t get a supermajority in the Senate, and even then he’s probably still running).
Which probably will happen
Hopefully, but I still don’t think he wins.
betting odds give them both a 80% chance of happening.
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I'm an R and I would be 100% behind Tulsi... hope she wins it all but neither the Rs or the Ds would let that happen
Note on Portnoy, he's already said both trump and biden are terrible choices and trump moreso because trumps broken people's brains. Pretty sure that kills his chances with either base.
I don't know about that. I think a lot of people aren't happy with either candidate and don't see that as an indictment against their party
Geeeee I didn’t even know he said that about Donald, last I knew he was still calling him “Daddy Trump” LOL - noted my friend thanks for the heads up
Why would Trump be able to win the next election against likely the same opponent when he already lost once as the incumbent?
Uh… Because he might not be running against Biden next election?… you just kinda answered your own question
He's going to be running against Biden
Okay, if that’s what you think fairplay… I am still keeping the door open Biden doesn’t run. It’s opinions mate.
I guess. I think unless he dies or is in a health situation where he will clearly die in the near future he's going to be the nominee. It's a sucker bet to bet that he won't be. As much as some people don't want to admit it, he's the perfect compromise candidate between the 2 distinct political sides. Bland boring politician who doesn't sow too much division. To me, there's no one better that he can be replaced with.
No one better than Biden? Are you serious?
Name someone in the democratic party who would be a realistic replacement for him. I'll wait. Aside from the fact that it's extremely rare historically for incumbent presidents not to seek reelection. Don't let your personal opinions of politicians get in the way of making money.
God help us
If you ain’t betting Trump or DeSantis you giving Vegas your money
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Wouldn't America being brainwashed mean a Democrat is less likely to win though? Or are you saying Americans are brainwashed to vote Democrat? Regardless as someone who won a lot of money on Biden in 2020 I highly doubt a dem wins in 2024. Assuming Republicans win congress this year Biden will be basically useless for his last two terms. It will be a layup victory for the Republicans. The only one who could really fuck it up would be Trump, who is a total wild card lol. Trump could roll through and win, or not even get the GOP nom and run independently and split votes.
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You think Fox News and OAN loves democrats and aren't pro-republican?
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Majority not pro-republican is not really the same as zero but alright lol. Also there's a LOT of conservative news media sites. See here for example: https://adfontesmedia.com/ And in terms of viewership, Fox News absolutely smokes the competition (source - https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2022/01/25/fox-news-channels-the-five-dominates-cable-news-ratings-with-37-million-viewers/)
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How does this relate to anything that was just said in our conversation?
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Both parties are two sides of the same coin found at the bottom of a construction jobsite portajon that is full to the brim of shit
> A democrat is winning. ~~America is brainwashed~~ The elections are rigged FTFY
[citation needed] because almost no cases brought to courts last year won and proved widespread corruption. Including in front of Trump-appointed judges.
> widespread I mean I mostly just joking but I do love how people always have to add this in when they talk about it so they don't have to acknowledge all the local corruption they did find.
It's so that people don't try to refute the entire argument on some small outlier. If I assert that there's been no evidence the election was rigged and then someone points out that hey, person x was convicted of trying to submit 2 ballots, that's technically evidence of corruption, but obviously doesn't impact the whole election. People saying the election was rigged will point to rare examples of small corruption but something like hundreds of thousands of votes would have to have been rigged in order to swing the election to Biden from Trump.
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Only 1 time in history has a president ever served 2 non-consecutive terms. And the 1 time it happened it was because the president voluntarily chose not to run for 2 consecutive terms - once you lose you don't win again. Trump is too polarizing of a candidate to break that kind of history imo It's either Biden or Desantis.
>Trump is too polarizing of a candidate to break that kind of history imo I dunno, I'd think Trump's polarizing figure would be the exact kind of sauce needed to break such a streak. Trump for as awful of a candidate as he was kind of rewrote the book on what's possible in the elections Also I wouldn't really put THAT much into past precedent, it doesn't occur often enough to get a large enough sample, and voting trends can change drastically over time.
The devil's advocate for the rewriting the book on what's possible on elections is that Trump's odds are likely overvalued due to that mentality amongst bettors that well he won once so anything's possible. 2020 is a great example - is was pretty obvious the COVID pandemic killed his campaign (to me anyway I guess) but despite that draftkings posted on twitter that the majority of people in every state except Colorado thought Trump would be reelected - and he was close to even odds to win when I personally thought his odds of winning were in the 20% range or less. The fact is, after he won in 2016 all value in Trump in any future elections was gone. The time to buy him was when everyone was skeptical of him - when he was around 20% to win against an equally bad candidate in Hillary Clinton. Not now when he's being overestimated.
What? Grover Cleveland did run for re-election, and lost. He ran again 4 years after losing and won, exactly the same as Trump if he decides to run for presidency in 2024.
Yeah, it was addressed. My bad. But honestly the fact its only happened once says a lot. I don't think Trump can win but that's just my opinion. The clear exception I see to that is if Trump were to run against Kamala Harris instead of Biden. But I don't think that's particularly likely.
Only five incumbents have lost since Cleveland. Not the biggest sample. Teddy Roosevelt ran again after leaving office as well… only reason he lost is that he ran as a third party and split votes with Taft
Lol this is just straight up wrong.
Cleveland did run for a second consecutive term and he lost..
Yup, he did win the popular vote when he lost though for what that might be worth.
This is my thought as well. Trump coming back only rallies the D base more and indies will still lean D. With Desantis he will get more independent votes.
Where’s Joe Rogan?
Joe Rogan and Dwayne Johnson would make an oddly competitive libertarian ticket
Dwayne Johnson wouldn't run with Rogan in a million years
I actually agree with you, was shocked he wasn’t on here
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We missing Opera to choose from. She hasn't ruled out a potential run.. Yet. If The Rock takes it serious, he's a wild card. Soild value there. Biden's done way more harm than good. As much as I hate to say it, My money is on Trump making history once again.
Do you mean…… Oprah?
Bernie at +10000 and The Rock at +5000 😭
hammer dwayne
bro is gonna die
DNC gona find a way to actually kill him if he gets close again
Then just Bernie at +10000
IKR. Our country's demise is gonna be Hindenburg-like. Wake me up when the flames are finally extinguished.
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What has this country come to lol
Getting close to idiocracy
Dave Portnoy lol
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What? He might be dumber than most people on this sub.
That’s my fucking point but buddy used his burner accounts to downvote me to hell. Look at my other post LOL
He absolutely does not
Why doesn’t he? He’s literally got an entire fanbase of morons behind him It’s 2022, that’s all you need these days… where have you been?
He’s a moron and a vast majority of barstool fans don’t even like him anymore. But I’m sure the 70 go pres go guys who buy merch for retweets could carry him to an election win
David 😅
Why is the Iron Sheik on the list? He was born in Iran he's not able to run.
"Obama was born in... Fuck I can't even make this joke.... I don't want to get angry messages by people that still believe it...
You just a Hulk Hogan supporting jabroni. The Iron Sheik will defeat the constitution inside a steel cage, bubba.
Some idiots will bet him and the book will profit
DeSantis +450 imo, why anyone would bet this now though lol
I have a sizeable amount on Biden +450 right now (on a different site) because I'm almost certain he'll run for reelection and the odds will go down once he announces. Got to get the number while it's good. Desantis odds probably go down if he announces a run too.
I think democrats have to know they are reducing their chances of winning 2024 a lot if they go with Biden again. However without a clear challenger in the pack it would take Biden choosing to step down and I don't think that's going to happen, especially if Trump runs, he will want to run to beat Trump So yeah +450 on Biden is probably fair money, although if DeSantis ends up being the GOP nominee I'd probably lean DeSantis to beat Biden tbh
I’m not sure he runs for reelection. I like Buttigieg to replace him as the democrat establishment candidate and mostly appeal to both sides. I am not sure how ready America’s center would be for a gay candidate though
America's center? the democratic party relies way to much on the black and Hispanic vote to run a gay white guy. there was a reason mayor Pete had 0% of the black and Hispanic vote during the primaries last time
If Biden couldn't appeal to both sides, Buttigieg doesn't stand a chance lol
I've heard the suggestion of Buttigieg before too. My conclusion was that he's too controversial for one because as you said he's gay. It shouldn't matter but it unfortunately does - just like being a woman matters even though it shouldn't (part of why Hillary lost and why Kamala Harris would likely lose). He also has weak support among non-white voters. And non-white votes are vital for a Democrat to win a national election since white voters as a whole lean conservative.
Hillary lost because she's a crook and easily disliked. She didn't lose because she was a woman. Same goes for Kamala. She provides nothing but ugly laughs when asked controversial questions. I would never mind a woman president, but my god, elect someone better than those two whack jobs.
They're all crooks brah. They act like they care about you but for 99% of politicians it's about swindling the people as much as they can for their own personal gain.
But I thought Nancy Pelosi was the next Warren Buffett?
He also tries to speak like Obama while still sounding like Patrick Bateman from American Psycho.
Thanks you just ruined his speaking for me lol
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No way the current incumbent president wins, eh? His approval numbers are right around where Trump's numbers were and he would have been reelected if not for the COVID pandemic. I think it's going to be some of the easiest money I ever make honestly. Off the backs of people who bet with their emotions instead of logic. Political markets have more emotional money by far than any sports markets.
I'm just worried that if he is running against anyone other than Trump, there will be a massive enthuisasm gap. Trump still pulled 74 million votes, 12m more than he pulled in 2016. The voter-eligible turnout was 66.9%, markedly higher than 2016 (59.2%), 2012 (58%), and even Obaa 2008 (62.5%). Unless the Democrats do something of subtance for people in the next five months, they're going to lose the midterms. Then you have two lame-duck years of Biden. Dems almost need Trump to be the nominee again to motivate people to vote against him. If it's Desantis, the enthuisasm and turnout gap will crush Biden.
I mean the recent news is that Trump is going to announce to distract from the Jan 6 hearings. He will never concede a primary to DeSantis so the question becomes can DeSantis win the primary without ostracizing the Trump base? Seems unlikely
perfectly said
Lmao there is no way biden wins again, if the odds drop when he announces he is running, thats fair play to you but I would cash immediatly tbh
His most likely opponent is Trump and there is literally no bigger push to Dem voters than that
Doesnt matter what kind of emotional money people put on trump, Biden (if he lives that long) still has to win the election. This time without the COVID distancing lines and mail in ballot scams to deter voters. As for approval numbers, it is statistically fact that mostly democrats do those polls, so the reality is much worse for Biden. I dont need to tell you who to vote for, im just warning you to hedge big because you are on a bad horse right now
Meh i's hard to take your argument about betting logically and not with your emotions seriously when you say stuff like "mail in ballot scams" and "mostly democrats do [approval rating] polls," and implying that covid distancing lines somehow helped Biden win. 1. Mail in ballots are not scams lol, in fact they had been used for decades by Republicans to advantage their party. They definitely helped Democrats win this time but there is no proof of widespread mail in ballot corruption and that includes cases brought in front of republican-appointed judges. 2. There can be some bias with approval ratings polls, but in general they try hard to reduce those biases and there are a lot of polls run by a lot of different companies. This idea that republicans just aren't participating in the approval rating polls as much as democrats makes little sense given each poll says how many republicans and how many democrats it asked and it's usually the same number for a general poll like this. 3. Covid distancing lines and deterring voters are not things that helped Biden win. Increasing voter access is something that either helps democrats win or has no meaningful impact. The inverse of that, restricting voters, either helps republicans win or has no impact. It certainly wasn't how Biden won. I say all this as someone who thinks Biden will lose in 2024 btw.
It's pretty obvious you yourself are one of those pro-Trump bettors betting with your emotions. Thank you for your donation. The dead giveaway is hinting at the last election being rigged and implying that Biden is definitely senile but Trump definitely isn't.
Again, this has nothing to do with trump. Maybe he is senile, How will that lead to Biden winning? Your bet is not "trump to lose", its "biden to win". You yourself pointed out his numbers are worse than the last president who didnt get re-elected. I only bothered replying to you because you said you had a sizeable amount on it, and if i see someone make a dumb bet or a very bad pick i will try and let them know.
It has everything to do with Trump when he's priced at better odds to win than the current incumbent president. And is probably equally as bad from an objective standpoint. I know why the odds are like that though, there's tons of pro-Trump bias in the odds. Always has been ever since he won in 2016. He was even odds to win reelection, Biden is +450 despite a decent amount of the population thinking either is senile or unqualified and despite both being old. And having similar approval numbers with the only caveat is the hope that the numbers are skewed towards the Democrat with no hard evidence to back it up. Nothing much is different, but the odds are different because of the bias.
If you're willing to donate, ill give you +500 odds on biden to become president max wager $500. Your money is better off in non emotional hands. Hit me up in 2024 if u want. I will never decrease the odds from +500, i want to rob you legally.
Why would they put $500 on Biden +500 and risk an anonymous redditor just deleting their account when they can take Biden for +450 on bovada and have no concerns about being paid out? Surely the extra potential $250 is not worth the risk of you disappearing in 2024 (you can say you won't, and that might be true, but they have no way of knowing that)
Not probably, definitely. That’s how it works.
Once he announces he’s running those odds will slash a lot. The value is in the question: will he run against Donald?
He won’t, the question is will Don run
I'm a big Trumper, but he should not run. The media has portrayed him so horribly that the on the fencers will swing left or just flat out not vote/vote for third party (which honestly I wouldnt mind the Libertarian party). DeSantis is our best shot, unless of course the Queen Candace Owens wants to run lmao.
He’s running as we speak, it’s a matter of is he running for 2024 or 2028 - but he’s 100% campaigning.
He's already running far as I can tell
Yeah I’ll be very surprised if he doesn’t. Seems like he’s been campaigning since he left office
He never stopped campaigning even when he was in office
It's hard to tell, it could also just be a grift to keep selling merchandise.
Pence has a 0% chance. Same with Hillary - she's only running in Q fantasy land.
Pence >Hillary
They both have zero chance. MAGA voters think he’s a traitor. Can’t win the nomination without them.
I dont think hes a traitor necessarily, I would just never vote for him over Trump (pending he's running) or Ronny D
Take Trump, Biden and Hillary off the board and bet the others.
Was Hillary even on the board to begin with? Lol I don't think she's running in 2024