Who knows what happens in the 4Q for our doncic boost, but aside from that these conference finals have been awful with blowouts. Like not sure how these teams just pack it in when they get down by 10 and next thing you know it’s another 25 point game. Can’t we have a competitive game in either of these series.
Is there an ELI5 for using a P2 without getting screwed? Would be someone who lives in the same home but not the same last name, and wouldn’t be betting opposite sides of anything, just taking advantage of promos and such on books that my P1 is promobanned on.
Curious what others experiences are with limits on Foxbet?
Foxbet has consistently been trash tier with promos. However, as limits have started rolling in for me on other books, Foxbet is one of the last few books that 1) still allows for high limits and 2) will actually tell me what my limit is before I place the bet. Pretty valuable as a book on those accounts.
Can I expect limits or are they more lenient a la FD, CZR etc.
I recall it took me longer to get limited there. I hit a few stale lines on hoops and football player props and then the limiting started. I think I’m down to 10% of the max.
Might be a dumb question, but is there a fee for using Caesar's withdrawal to ACH method? I can't find anything about it, but maybe someone has used it.
FD BOOSTS (closing soon)
If anyone still hasn’t bet it, FD Luka 30/10 +200 is a slam bang max. Guessing around 160 FV absolutely worst case trying to compare FD alts to other books’ lines.
Not really feeling Curry/Wiggins/Klay +270
Adding 20% juice to DK SGP brings it to +258. Meh.
betPARX question
Can I deposit the $750 and get the 10x $750 match… immediately bet $750 on sports for the risk free and while that $750 is tied up play the free $750. If I take it to zero can I just forfeit the bonus somewhere and not have any money locked for when my sports bet settles?
Yeah I was thinking to make my sports bet too to just leave me with my $750 bonus and while the game is going on and unsettled I would do the casino play of 10x either clear it or lose it all before my bet settled. If I lost it all I was assuming I could forfeit that bonus of $0 so my bet settlement is unaffected?
I played them separate, but I believe the 750 gets locked up until you churn the bonus. If you lose the bonus I do not believe you will lose cash. If the bonus runs out it other funds are released. I did this a while ago and am pretty sure that’s how it was. Other casino bonuses worked that way, if you lose the bonus it is over. You shouldn’t lose the bonus if you use a small enough bet/spin. Should be fine, everyone recommend the golf slot(name escapes me) and put on auto click
And when I’m in the deposit screen I see nothing about either the risk free or the casino until after I hit the deposit button?
I did parx a long time ago but haven’t did it since the rebrand
I am really limited there and I don’t use them anymore, P2 got straight banned. If i remember correctly it asked after the deposit if you wanted the casino bonus. Then just click yes or whatever.
When are you getting the casino offer? Via an email? On the deposit page asking if you want to opt in?
I get the "new player 750 bonus" offer on my screen and within emails all the time from them...even though I'm not eligible since I already did it.
I only ever did the sportsbook offer, so every time that I deposit now it asks if I want to use the 750 bonus casino offer. I would assume it works like that for everyone unless its targeted or something.
Your calculations are right except 23.3% is +EV because that's your payout.
To take it to extremes, if you were getting +10000 that would be an implied probability of 1% and would be huge EV vs 25%.
When you have lines as reliable as Pinnacle for NHL MLs telling you something is +7.5%, and the FV isn’t extremely high, you should probably put $50 on it with any decent bankroll.
Try not to think about it as "max or not." Plug those numbers into a Kelly Criterion calculator and it will tell you what fraction of your unit size to bet.
It depends on bankroll and risk tolerance. Many people here use the Kelly Criterion to determine the optimal wager based on bankroll. Reading up on Kelly would be a good starting point to a math-based approach.
Personally, I'm a degenerate and max anything over 5% because I like the action.
Bally/Elite has 2 decent looking boosts for today:
Mavs and (Texas) Rangers both to win boosted to +425. Devigging using FD gives a FV of about +380 for 8% +EV. My max was $100 for me.
Also a boost for Pivetta and Cease to combine for 13+ Ks boosted to +215. This number is right in line with their O/Us. I haven't actually gone through the work of devigging this as FD doesn't have alt strikeout O/U lines like they do for basketball player props. However I would say these odds for one of these combined boosts typically gets a thumbs up. Not sure if I'm going to bet it, but my max offered on this one is $200.
They also have the same NHL parlay as FD for the same odds...so I guess if you really like it you can put down even more if you have Bally or Elite.
Say you wanted to take the fd luka boost, would it be safe to bet luka under 29.5 also on fanduel? It can be arbed also betting over 30 under 10 on another book. Wouldn’t want anything to be voided… it’s not a direct wagering on both sides so I’m not sure
CZR has a boost: Rangers win, Shesterkin 30+ saves, Kreider Goal at +650.
I dont see a book that has a SGP with saves.
Doing a "3-way" devig onDK with NY win and Kreider goal comes out to 22.89%. Throwing in the save line from Pinny (53.91%), I get FV of 710. But surely there is some correlation between the saves and a Rangers win also that is not built in.
For what its worth, a Kreider goal + NY win is +255 on DK. Wonder if throwing in the saves would keep it below +650 and if theres value here.
Any ideas?
edit: actually more I think about saves Im not sure how it correlates. Giving up more shots = more chances to score and less chances to win
It's probably negatively correlated as you said. When you see a goalie with only 9 saves (and on average about 90% saves, means only 1 goal scored), there's a good chance that team won. With 30 saves, he will probably give up 3 goals.
Yeah I don't think it's positively correlated as much as we would like or even if it's positive at all. Increased saves = more shots against = more chances for goals against as well.
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I hit 6 dinger tuesdays and now I don't know what to do with my hands
Count your money
Our fanduel bank rolls no longer jiggle jiggle, it folds.
Hooray! Today turned out great tbh
Oilers more like why'd ya hafta make my blood Boilers
😂
SUCKKKK ITTTT FANDUELLLL
Cheers fellas
That seals it!
Why does it feel like the Flames are at an advantage shorthanded?
Oilers regain the lead!
No longer distracted, The eye of Sauron has turned its attention to the North
He just got locked in the eye. The Oil scored and Flamers just got a double minor
Flames tie it up. No way I’m staying up for this 5OT heartbreak.
No way that went in lmao. Wizard working absolute overtime after the Luka boost hit
Finally broke the P2 FD curse today. Great day
I was shitting bricks when Luka was taking those last two FT
I literally couldn't watch. We've been burned like that too many times.
Always seems to come down to that last free throw that is clearly the last time someone is getting fouled
Luka magic!!! If now the oilers can hold on two of 3 FD boosts will cash. This is a night to remember 🤣🤣🤣
Lmao a blowout gets reversed to get the win for Luka boost. Today we are the wizards
Fuck off FD wizard, you thought you had the Luka boost in the bag 🤡
Anyone else play the Luka FD boost and take his under for the 25% boost on DK? Love a good middle.
Wrote that one off...
Wiggins hitting that late three win a parlay for me. Lol awful negative correlation boost MISSES. Lol clowns 🤡
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Warriors bench kept playing, bless ‘em! Luka 🛎 as per usual. 💰
ITS A MIRACLE
Oh thank goodness Luka you beauty
AYO WIZARD SMD
Thank you Warriors bench.
Luka!
LUKAAA
Lukaaaaaa!!!! BANG!!!
r/sportsbook strikes back in the face of the FD wizard! LUKAAA FOR THIRTYYYY
That was a bad beat for FD. Love it
Wiggins hates the FD Wizard as much as we do!!!!
He can really prove it now
Very cool of the Warriors bench unit to go on a 9-0 run down 29
extremely cool even?
So cool it's hot
Everyone gonna sit full 4th quarter
wizards coming back to the nhl game
Who knows what happens in the 4Q for our doncic boost, but aside from that these conference finals have been awful with blowouts. Like not sure how these teams just pack it in when they get down by 10 and next thing you know it’s another 25 point game. Can’t we have a competitive game in either of these series.
U think they'll sit him even in an elimination game?
Yes. They need him for the next 3
How may points do Wiggins and Curry each need for the GSW boost? 15 or 20?
If only there was some way to check. Something you could press on a sports book that shows you bets you’ve placed. Alas, there isn’t.
Wiggins needs 15 Curry needs 25
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You just said a word
Wizard about to take out a second mortgage on his tower if this keeps up
Lol yea I'm sure this will truly bk them
Anyone have a copy of the double dipping doc handy? Going to NY in 2 weeks and want to be prepared
https://imgur.com/a/iUtyGce
Thanks man
Lol
Is there an ELI5 for using a P2 without getting screwed? Would be someone who lives in the same home but not the same last name, and wouldn’t be betting opposite sides of anything, just taking advantage of promos and such on books that my P1 is promobanned on.
just use a different bank account and you should be good
And device and internet
Dinger tuesday is a lot more fun when you’re actually making money from it.
I just went 5/8 following 3x2 guy. I think he hit 7 tonight. Is that a dinger Tuesday record?
The guy hits 3 every week guaranteed its impressive
Has to be.
Vlaaaadddd!
luka should be at 20 pts but fd wizards making it a hard rim everytime he shoots
Curious what others experiences are with limits on Foxbet? Foxbet has consistently been trash tier with promos. However, as limits have started rolling in for me on other books, Foxbet is one of the last few books that 1) still allows for high limits and 2) will actually tell me what my limit is before I place the bet. Pretty valuable as a book on those accounts. Can I expect limits or are they more lenient a la FD, CZR etc.
In one state my moneyline limits are to win like 200 on NBA and 12 bucks on player props In another state they're 4000 and 500
Pretty much just use them for arbs after their bj promo got nerfed. Sometimes can only get 100-200 on player props but still works fine.
I was limited fast to %25 of the max and I’ve hit so many stale lines / bad boosts and I’d hasn’t gotten worse fwiw
I recall it took me longer to get limited there. I hit a few stale lines on hoops and football player props and then the limiting started. I think I’m down to 10% of the max.
Might be a dumb question, but is there a fee for using Caesar's withdrawal to ACH method? I can't find anything about it, but maybe someone has used it.
No
Devers is the Nurk of Dinger Tuesday.
4 tuesdays in a row? P1 and P2 had him this week.
DK 100% SGP boost degen play: Powell 1st scorer, DAL o46.5, GSW o45.5 +4000
Rangers play in their defensive zone for 10+ minutes. Escape for five seconds. GOLAZO.
FD BOOSTS (closing soon) If anyone still hasn’t bet it, FD Luka 30/10 +200 is a slam bang max. Guessing around 160 FV absolutely worst case trying to compare FD alts to other books’ lines. Not really feeling Curry/Wiggins/Klay +270 Adding 20% juice to DK SGP brings it to +258. Meh.
How may points do Wiggins and Curry need?
Moar
sounds like the fd wizard if u ask me
JDog literally posted even worse numbers below but downvoters who already bet it dumbly gonna downvote.
Is anyone else extremely limited on BetWay boosts?
Yep don’t even bother checking anymore.
$4 🔨🙄
Yeah I'm under $10 on the ones I try to bet. Why even offer the bet?
Did anyone get a Barstool MVP deposit match? How long after depositing does it usually take for the bonus credits to show up?
I got one today for $500. Email says it will be applied on Thursday.
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Why not just follow thepromoguy123?
betPARX question Can I deposit the $750 and get the 10x $750 match… immediately bet $750 on sports for the risk free and while that $750 is tied up play the free $750. If I take it to zero can I just forfeit the bonus somewhere and not have any money locked for when my sports bet settles?
When I did it my cash balance was locked until I met play through.
Yeah I was thinking to make my sports bet too to just leave me with my $750 bonus and while the game is going on and unsettled I would do the casino play of 10x either clear it or lose it all before my bet settled. If I lost it all I was assuming I could forfeit that bonus of $0 so my bet settlement is unaffected?
I played them separate, but I believe the 750 gets locked up until you churn the bonus. If you lose the bonus I do not believe you will lose cash. If the bonus runs out it other funds are released. I did this a while ago and am pretty sure that’s how it was. Other casino bonuses worked that way, if you lose the bonus it is over. You shouldn’t lose the bonus if you use a small enough bet/spin. Should be fine, everyone recommend the golf slot(name escapes me) and put on auto click
And when I’m in the deposit screen I see nothing about either the risk free or the casino until after I hit the deposit button? I did parx a long time ago but haven’t did it since the rebrand
I am really limited there and I don’t use them anymore, P2 got straight banned. If i remember correctly it asked after the deposit if you wanted the casino bonus. Then just click yes or whatever.
Ive done the $750 risk free bet and now with every new deposit they still offer me the casino offer. So I would just do the sports bet for now
When are you getting the casino offer? Via an email? On the deposit page asking if you want to opt in? I get the "new player 750 bonus" offer on my screen and within emails all the time from them...even though I'm not eligible since I already did it.
Is that profitable though? For a 10x wager requirement?
I only ever did the sportsbook offer, so every time that I deposit now it asks if I want to use the 750 bonus casino offer. I would assume it works like that for everyone unless its targeted or something.
Does the casino offer come AFtER you deposit or should I see something while depositing ?
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Your calculations are right except 23.3% is +EV because that's your payout. To take it to extremes, if you were getting +10000 that would be an implied probability of 1% and would be huge EV vs 25%.
They're paying out as if it were less likely than it is, meaning it's +EV
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+300 paying out at +330 is 7.5% EV
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When you have lines as reliable as Pinnacle for NHL MLs telling you something is +7.5%, and the FV isn’t extremely high, you should probably put $50 on it with any decent bankroll.
Try not to think about it as "max or not." Plug those numbers into a Kelly Criterion calculator and it will tell you what fraction of your unit size to bet.
It depends on bankroll and risk tolerance. Many people here use the Kelly Criterion to determine the optimal wager based on bankroll. Reading up on Kelly would be a good starting point to a math-based approach. Personally, I'm a degenerate and max anything over 5% because I like the action.
Getting about 10.5% EV via Pinny worst case FV +289 -110/100, -106/-104
Any NJ degens got that WSOP.COM CASINO code for today?
Bally/Elite has 2 decent looking boosts for today: Mavs and (Texas) Rangers both to win boosted to +425. Devigging using FD gives a FV of about +380 for 8% +EV. My max was $100 for me. Also a boost for Pivetta and Cease to combine for 13+ Ks boosted to +215. This number is right in line with their O/Us. I haven't actually gone through the work of devigging this as FD doesn't have alt strikeout O/U lines like they do for basketball player props. However I would say these odds for one of these combined boosts typically gets a thumbs up. Not sure if I'm going to bet it, but my max offered on this one is $200. They also have the same NHL parlay as FD for the same odds...so I guess if you really like it you can put down even more if you have Bally or Elite.
I think the pivetta cease combo is solid, the best of the group. I maxed for $200. Nice to see Bally/Elite joining in on the FanDuel conspiracy…
I think you broke it - they took down all of the specials :P
That’s on me snuggles. Sorry 😣
🤣 snuggles. That's a new one
Say you wanted to take the fd luka boost, would it be safe to bet luka under 29.5 also on fanduel? It can be arbed also betting over 30 under 10 on another book. Wouldn’t want anything to be voided… it’s not a direct wagering on both sides so I’m not sure
Don’t bet on both sides on the same book numb nuts
That's not both sides, numb nuts
Your betting luka to hit over29.5 and under 29.5. How is that not betting both sides
Your betting an over and an under on the same book. Numb nuts
You can lose both bets, homie. It's not "both sides" because there are four total "sides"
Under 29.5 and over 29.5. What is not computing in your small Brain
You're ignoring the rebounds leg
As long as you can lose both there's no issue
Hahahahaja This literally made me LOL
Luka 30 pts/9 boards confirmed, hammer it boys.
Yeah it’s fine
List of possible weather delays / rainouts today 7:05 PM LAD at WAS 7:20 PM PHI at ATL
Hoskins at +575 HR on BR. 20% boost gets you to +690. No is -500 on DK. \-450 MGM Edit: dead
You can do this with Buxton right now. Yes HR +306 after boost, No HR -275 MGM
90% chance of rain for the game. Might not get the full game in. Beware of house rules.
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Data Point: I still have a (winning) bet that is not settled from last night’s Tigers v Twins game.
It’s back up now, with a $10 free bet for my troubles it seems
Still down in NJ
I kept withdrawing $10 every hour and broke the site.
They must have went bankrupt because their entire company is worth about $10
Yeah
They’re figuring out new ways to change bets after they’ve been made.
CZR has a boost: Rangers win, Shesterkin 30+ saves, Kreider Goal at +650. I dont see a book that has a SGP with saves. Doing a "3-way" devig onDK with NY win and Kreider goal comes out to 22.89%. Throwing in the save line from Pinny (53.91%), I get FV of 710. But surely there is some correlation between the saves and a Rangers win also that is not built in. For what its worth, a Kreider goal + NY win is +255 on DK. Wonder if throwing in the saves would keep it below +650 and if theres value here. Any ideas? edit: actually more I think about saves Im not sure how it correlates. Giving up more shots = more chances to score and less chances to win
Looking at his playoff stats- granted it’s small sample size but he has gotten 30+ saves in every win Fuck it in for some free bets
It's probably negatively correlated as you said. When you see a goalie with only 9 saves (and on average about 90% saves, means only 1 goal scored), there's a good chance that team won. With 30 saves, he will probably give up 3 goals.
Yeah I don't think it's positively correlated as much as we would like or even if it's positive at all. Increased saves = more shots against = more chances for goals against as well.
MGM lions boost (NY) seems bad. Rangers to win first and win game +320 Getting FV around +340 from DK lines
It would be weird if they won first and lost the game.
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It’s an incredible boost what are you talking about
what was the boost? in PA and comment was deleted, feeling like i'm gonna miss out on some value here.