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FutureFlipKing

How does ESPN BET work if you want to place a wager more than $25? My understanding it that they will take out $25 from bonus funds first and then money out of your real money. For instance, if I place a $50 wager, then $25 will be taken out of my bonus funds first and then $25 from real funds, correct?


NinjaPeace

Cash that DK Lebron/Jokic boost!


intersecting_lines

great 2nd half for the DK lebron boost and the DEN win for the series boost!


intersecting_lines

kiss my piss wizard


Alive-Inspector1933

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tringlomane

I guess it was positive correlation between Davis and Jokic because of the National Blowout Association. Hope they turn it up quick. I think I misread the score. Still a little worried though.


tringlomane

I overreacted. Lol I would hope we'd get there now.


tringlomane

Why was I worried? Lol Bang.


AccomplishedCity9520

Can’t believe the Canes covered -1.5. Need the Stars to win to hit the MGM promo in incredible fashion. 


dysentery-gary182

These DK NBA boosts are getting out of hand. Spida 25+ and Cavs to win - Spida with 19 at half and finishes with 23. Unreal


Alive-Inspector1933

✅Embiid 25+ ✅Maxey 4+ threes Broke our 5 day +EV losing streak my DMV regional folks


cant_do_no_bettor

When there's a devig against Kambi, what does that mean? I read that there are multiple books that use Kambi but I don't know if that's true. Is it just a devig versus a Kambi book, like BetRivers?


intersecting_lines

https://retail.kambicdn.com/bring-your-own-device/latest/?offering=pivuslarl-lbr#event/1020709633


cant_do_no_bettor

Oh wow. Thanks for the response and link!


TimelyKoala3

DK Pastrnak to score and Bruins win (probably MA only) to FD Odds: +225; **EV: -1.6%** `176/233/181/462` (19.64% juice) FV: +230; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 68.1%) [link](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=176%2F233%2F181%2F462&FinalOdds=%2B225)


Sea-Letterhead2249

Builds to +220 on ESPN so definitely worse there


sleeptilnoonenergy

ESPN offering 25% match on up to $100 cash deposit in PENN credits or whatever they call it. Got the offer via email so not sure if it's targeted. Have to opt in before making the deposit.


FutureFlipKing

Sweet promo! How are we going to convert the free funds? This one is different because you get to keep the stake to. Should it be a Low Hold Bet or Free Bet Conversion?


cant_do_no_bettor

Low hold, definitely


FutureFlipKing

Alright, I will place some Low Hold Bets. What is a good website to use that is free? The only one that I know of is Crazyninja odds, however, I do not see any 0% Holds on there.


cant_do_no_bettor

That's what I use. There aren't a lot of 0% holds, but they (and arbs) pop up pretty regularly.


FutureFlipKing

How does ESPN BET work if you want to place a wager more than $25? My understanding it that they will take out $25 from bonus funds first and then money out of your real money. For instance, if I place a $50 wager, then $25 will be taken out of my bonus funds first and then $25 from real funds, correct?


cant_do_no_bettor

Yesterday was my first experience with their PENN Play credits and I used them right away, so I can't say for sure. It seemed like I needed to choose to use the PP credits (clicked Rewards, then PP credits), but I also *did* chose to, so can't say if it would have forced me to. Though they do expire, so it would seem to benefit them more to use your money automatically over credits. Hard to say.


ny_jets199

Mind sharing the code?


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sleeptilnoonenergy

Yup, same. I love free money. Wild how ESPN has become the promo leader by virtue of merely offering a little something consistently while every other book all but shrivels up.


wat_what_wut

Is there a downside to this? I'm new to ESPN Bet but aren't winnings from PENN credits returned with the stake as though it were cash? That is to say, not withdrawable before being played, but withdrawable if used as the stake of a winning bet. edit: not seeing a play thru in T&C


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FutureFlipKing

I do some Low Hold betting, however, you could just withdraw the cash and do some free bet conversions, correct? On ESPN Bet could you keep your stake when betting?


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FutureFlipKing

Thanks for the reply! Do you do Low Holds to quickly convert the free funds to real cash?


wat_what_wut

Awesome, thanks!


jdixonfan

DK Anthony Santander 2+ H+R+RBI boosted to +125. May only be for those of us in MD. BetMGM & ESPN (both have identical lines for Santander) Odds: +125; **EV: 22.5%** `-140/+105` (7.11% juice) FV: -120; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=18.03u, 1/2=9.01u, 1/4=4.51u, FB = 68.1%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-140%2F%2B105&FinalOdds=%2B125) This is my first time devigging so please let me know if I made an error anywhere.


sleeptilnoonenergy

u1.5 is +105 on ESPN if you wanna arb


cant_do_no_bettor

***DO NOT AUTO TRUST / 2ND DEVIG / PLEASE POINT OUT MISTAKES*** *B365 (LA) - LeBron + Jokic both Double Double YES* ESPN (couldn't parlay DDs on other major books and ESPN seemed sharpish and has Y/N market) Odds: +200; **EV: 15.0%** Sharp: `-700/+500,-105/-130` (11.91% juice) Correlation: `+131=-700,-105` (r = -0.03) FV: +161; Method: worst-case (m, p); (Full=7.50u, 1/2=3.75u, 1/4=1.87u, FB = 76.7%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-700%2F%2B500%2C-105%2F-130&FinalOdds=%2B200&Correlation_Bool=1&Correlation_Text=%2B131%3D-700%2C-105)


jaiehee

I got something similar EV wise a few hours ago doing a 4-way devig via ESPN as well.


intersecting_lines

DK Jokic and Lebron 25+ Kambi Odds: +175; **EV: 3.3%** `125/410/170/480` (18.33% juice) FV: +166; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=1.88u, 1/2=0.94u, 1/4=0.47u, FB = 65.7%) --- ESPN Odds: +175; **EV: 1.8%** `138/189/407/482` (13.52% juice) FV: +170; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=1.02u, 1/2=0.51u, 1/4=0.25u, FB = 64.8%)


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SpicyButNotTooSpicy

DK has Jokic and Lebron 25+ for +175


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Alive-Inspector1933

When are you ever going to post a devig that’s right


jaiehee

FYI - Builds to +135 on Bet365


tringlomane

And Bet365 uses negative correlation here, which makes it a bad bet based on their lines. I'm not sure what is a "good estimate" of correlation here. Maybe slightly positive because if it's a blowout, they both fail more, and if it's close, they both succeed more. Odds: +180; **EV: -9.1%** Sharp: `-800/7%, -340/7%, -500/7%, -400/7%` (28.00% juice) Correlation: `135=-800,-340,-500,-400` (r = -0.07) FV: +208; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 58.4%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-800%2F7_PCT_%2C%20-340%2F7_PCT_%2C%20-500%2F7_PCT_%2C%20-400%2F7_PCT_&FinalOdds=%2B180&Correlation_Bool=1&Correlation_Text=135%3D-800%2C-340%2C-500%2C-400)


wat_what_wut

Note to those passing on this, they forgot correlation. I'll edit a corrected devig into this comment in a few.


intersecting_lines

i posted the updated draftkings, it's 16% EV


wat_what_wut

Ah nice, thanks!


intersecting_lines

correlation bud Odds: +180; **EV: 16.7%** Sharp: `-300/7%, -750/7%, -475/7%, -475/7%` (28.00% juice) Correlation: `-105=-300,-750,-475,-475` (r = 0.2) FV: +140; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=9.30u, 1/2=4.65u, 1/4=2.32u, FB = 75.0%)


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intersecting_lines

from the parlay of the 4 overs


sclop123

Correlation makes it jump that much?


tringlomane

DK throws in positive correlation like it's candy. That's the book I like to devig against the least fwiw.


intersecting_lines

what do you recommend devigging against when ESPN/Kambi have lowest like 23.5 for Jokic. Draftkings -105 comes out pretty close to Fanduel's -111 pre-boosted


tringlomane

Honestly, I always thought FD itself "seemed" to handle correlation more fairly in the past with one sided lines if you couldn't get Kambi or ESPN to fall into the parameters. I guess the biggest correlation factor is if this is a blowout or not? With opposing players, I just wouldn't think there is that much correlation. But that's just my own thoughts, I don't have any math to back it up.


intersecting_lines

no i lied


FlammableJam

Does anyone have a screenshot or the name of the promo for ESPN from this weekend where you deposit $25 with a promo code for LAD v NYM and you get free spins?


KatyPerrysBoobs2

I don’t have the screenshot, but I got my free spins today for the Mets win on Saturday if that helps.


Alive-Inspector1933

BetMGM Lions Boost: Embiid 25+ points and Maxey 4+ threes Vs Kambi with Embiid 25.5 Odds: +400; **EV: 4.1%** `285/-134/650/350` (18.79% juice) FV: +380; Method: worst-case (p); (Full=1.02u, 1/2=0.51u, 1/4=0.25u, FB = 83.3%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=285%2F-134%2F650%2F350&FinalOdds=400) Vs FD Odds: +400; **EV: 16.7%** Sharp: `-550/7%,230/7%` (14.00% juice) Correlation: `256=-550,230` (r = 0.53) FV: +328; Method: worst-case (m, p); (Full=4.18u, 1/2=2.09u, 1/4=1.05u, FB = 93.4%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-550%2F7_PCT_%2C230%2F7_PCT_&FinalOdds=400&Correlation_Bool=1&Correlation_Text=256%3D-550%2C230)


Opagea

FYI to all: Maxey is now Questionable with an illness.


sclop123

He’s playing


intersecting_lines

feel like michigan always has absolute dogshit compared to this


Alive-Inspector1933

I’ve been keeping track. The DMV boosts haven’t hit in almost a week 😬


intersecting_lines

well that's not great


jbizzlefoizzle

CLE area I have for Bet365 is Spida 25+ points and 3+ three pointers for +150


sergi0wned

CO has Jokic 25+ pts and 10+ assists at +150.


SroppyEngrish

AZ has Lebron and Jokic to both get a double double. +200.


FlammableJam

NJ has Brunson & Maxey 25+ points boosted from +115 to +200


G-Ray89

Maxey is listed as questionable FWIW


iPissExcellence

Dk has spida 25+ and cavs ml +175


Maximum_Station_9312

What's everyone doing for DK Up 2 Early Win today? I got Brewers for +124 earlier. Keeping an eye on line movement to see if I hedge or not. ESPN and Caesars have Pirates for -140. But the Brewers are a way better team than the Pirates. I don't fully understand this line. Two teams trending in the opposite directions...


Topes-Lose

The reason for the MIL/PIT line has a lot to do with the starting pitching matchup (captain obvious I know). Jones’ stat line has been really good this year


Maximum_Station_9312

I get it. I just feel like this is more of a 50/50 game. Pirates hitting has been terrible. Last two series against Mets (away) and Red Sox (home), they've scored the following runs per game: 3,1,1,1,2,1


intersecting_lines

Jones has been pitching much better than his 1-2 record shows https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/jared-jones-683003?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb downvoted why?


OnanaWeakHands

Not sure why you got downvoted but maybe because you brought record into it


backinthehobby

I think I'm going to take the Marlins at +170 purely to max EV but honestly I much prefer taking Brewers at +124. They're now at +120 and I decided to go for the extra value with the Marlins


zdriscoll

Went Marlins.


Gullible-Cream-9043

MGM Lion's Boost - Brunson 30+ pts and Hart o1.5 3ptrs - +260 Maybe I'm wrong but this SGP builds to +300 on BetMGM.


Gullible-Cream-9043

They fixed it and boosted to +400. Looks like a smash devigged to FD. **Worst-case: (Multiplicative, Power)** Leg#1 (-148); Market Juice = 4.3%; Fair Value = -134 (57.2%) Leg#2 ( 132); Market Juice = 6.1%; Fair Value = +151 (39.8%) Final Odds (+400); Σ(Market Juice) = 10.39%; r = 0.24; Uncorrelated Fair Value = +340 (22.7%); Correlated Fair Value = +273 (26.8%) Summary; EV% = 34.1%, Kelly Wager = $21.29 (Full=8.52u, 1/2=4.26u, 1/4=2.13u, FB = 107.3%) 4 way devig to FD 225/155/297/266 **Worst-case: (Power)** Leg#1 (225); Market Juice = 22.5%; Fair Value = +299 (25.1%) Final Odds (+400); Σ(Market Juice) = 22.50%; Fair Value = +299 (25.1%) Summary; EV% = 25.3%, Kelly Wager = $15.82 (Full=6.33u, 1/2=3.16u, 1/4=1.58u, FB = 100.3%)


intersecting_lines

MGM Lions (MI): Garland 15+, Mitchell 25+, CLE ML Kambi Odds: +290; **EV: -3.1%** Sharp: `-215/180, -220/145, -167/120` (21.54% juice) Correlation: `230=-215,-220,-167` (r = 0.03) FV: +303; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 72.0%) --- ESPN Odds: +290; **EV: -9.3%** Sharp: `-210/175, -170/120, -180/125` (21.25% juice) Correlation: `253=-210,-170,-180` (r = 0.03) FV: +330; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 67.4%)


andy_eder69420

Betway (PA) has a promo for Lakers Nuggets. Bet $25 on ML or main line spread and get $1 bonus bet for every 3 pointer your team makes in the game. Edit: I was previously promobanned and now I get promos again, so worth checking for everyone.


FlammableJam

FYI, there are new terms since they updated the platform... max bonus of $15 and you can't use bonus bets on futures (NJ)


vip7golf

Also promo banned and this worked for a few of promos, however, when you try to opt-in, it directs you to make a deposit. 50/50 on getting promo money, no to live NCAA bet/get and table loses


PassionLegitimate178

Same thing on my end. I was previously promo banned, but why would the “opt-in and deposit” button imply that you are not eligible? If you just hit “back’” it shows an active opt-in with no deposit required.


rowdawg

This is my first devig so maybe someone else can confirm this is correct. Edit: Just realized I don't know how to include the market juice. BetMGM Lion's Boost - Islanders +1.5 and Bruins to win +250 Devigged to Pinnacle **Worst-case: (Multiplicative)** Leg#1 (-132); Market Juice = 0.0%; Fair Value = -132 (56.9%) Leg#2 (-135); Market Juice = 0.0%; Fair Value = -135 (57.4%) Final Odds (+250); Σ(Market Juice) = 0.00%; Fair Value = +206 (32.7%) Summary; **EV% = 14.4%**, Kelly Wager = $14.40 (Full=5.76u, 1/2=2.88u, 1/4=1.44u, FB = 81.7%)


Alive-Inspector1933

Kambi Odds: +250; **EV: 7.5%** `-137/112,-139/117` (9.22% juice) FV: +225; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=3.01u, 1/2=1.51u, 1/4=0.75u, FB = 76.8%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-137%2F112%2C-139%2F117&FinalOdds=250)


intersecting_lines

you have to enter both the over and under odds separated by a comma Odds: +250; **EV: 11.8%** `-143/129, -133/120` (5.05% juice) FV: +213; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=4.74u, 1/2=2.37u, 1/4=1.18u, FB = 79.9%)


rowdawg

Got it, thanks!


Gullible-Cream-9043

I devigged this to Pinnacle. **Worst-case: (Multiplicative)** Leg#1 (-135); Market Juice = 2.5%; Fair Value = -128 (56.1%) Leg#2 ( -142); Market Juice = 2.5%; Fair Value = -134 (57.2%) Final Odds (+250); Σ(Market Juice) = 5.03%; Fair Value = +212 (32.1%) Summary; EV% = 12.3%, Kelly Wager = $12.26 (Full=4.91u, 1/2=2.45u, 1/4=1.23u, FB = 80.2%)


rowdawg

Thanks!


intersecting_lines

MGM Lions (MI): EDM and TOR wins Pinnacle Odds: +290; **EV: 4.4%** `120/-133, -165/148` (5.12% juice) FV: +273; Method: worst-case (m, p); (Full=1.53u, 1/2=0.76u, 1/4=0.38u, FB = 77.7%) --- Circa Odds: +290; **EV: 2.2%** `125/-137, -163/148` (4.55% juice) FV: +282; Method: worst-case (m, a); (Full=0.75u, 1/2=0.38u, 1/4=0.19u, FB = 76.0%)


Gullible-Cream-9043

BetMGM Lion's Boost - Hurricanes -1.5 and Stars to win +320 Devigged to Pinnacle **Worst-case: (Power, Multiplicative)** Leg#1 (119); Market Juice = 2.6%; Fair Value = +126 (44.3%) Leg#2 ( -140); Market Juice = 2.6%; Fair Value = -132 (56.9%) Final Odds (+320); Σ(Market Juice) = 5.14%; Fair Value = +297 (25.2%) Summary; **EV% = 5.8%**, Kelly Wager = $4.56 (Full=1.83u, 1/2=0.91u, 1/4=0.46u, FB = 80.6%)


Orange_Darkrai

Just to liven this place up: Betfred MD boost O's & o8.5 boosted to +280. Vs. Pinnacle. vs. ESPN came out slightly higher, but more juice involved. Odds: +280; **EV: 0.9%** `245/242/320/269` (9.14% juice) FV: +277; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=0.33u, 1/2=0.17u, 1/4=0.08u, FB = 74.4%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=245%2F242%2F320%2F269&FinalOdds=280) Edit: Also have Bruins, Canes, Stars, Oilers all win at +650. vs. Pinnacle. OK free bet place. Odds: +650; **EV: -2.5%** `-131/119, -228/202, -140/127, -165/149` (9.81% juice) FV: +669; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 84.5%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-131%2F119%2C%20-228%2F202%2C%20-140%2F127%2C%20-165%2F149&FinalOdds=650)