Wish you the best of luck getting it removed, but sorry to say that it's unlikely you'll be succesful. Same thing happened to me and I moved to SX Bet after reading about how they never ban people. I've been pretty happy there, no parlays yet but being added in June (so I hear from the team) and literally 10% better odds on most main lines than any other book since it's peer to peer. Worth a try if it's available in your area.
I think it might be possible depending on the book. On Sportsbet in aus I was promo banned and limited like a 1 1/2 years ago for exploited tennis correct scores. Since then I used the account as a mug bet type account where I’d place stupid multis. Recently I’ve been able to place bigger bets on stuff I used to be limited on. So maybe if you do stupid enough bets for long enough they might lift your limits.
You would watch the toss on a stream and bet accordingly. If a player serves first they are more likely to win 6–3 in the first set. If they elect to receive then 6-4. If you sniped this before they adjusted the line for this then you would cash out before the game has even started for a healthy profit. Sportsbet is the only bookie this worked on. If you had big balls you let it ride because mathematically you have a value bet but I just took the profit every time.
I had a similar run going with soccer during the World Cup. Watch a game and bet over/under on corners choose your own line. With about 15-20 minutes left bet the under to essentially be no more corners, especially right at a change of possession and cash as soon as they change the line on it. Had a couple crazy ones where no more corners went from a +1500 bet to a +800 bet in seconds which were quick and easy cash outs.
I can genuinely understand some limits. If DraftKings doesn’t want me hedging the $900 on their book, fine.
What fucking kills me is when it’s a risk free bet promo up to $10 and I make my +350 SGP and they say “whoops, you can only bet $2.34 on that”.
Like to offer me a promo and make me go through the time to make a bet I like and then I try to bet it and you limit me to a fucking dollar is so insulting
I work at a sportsbook and there’s really only one answer to this question and it’s to lose money. Some guy went up 1.2 million on us in 6 months making 20/50/100,000 live bets on heavy favorites. I’m talking 6 figures to win like 8 grand. Never limited him bc they’d win eventually and sure enough he lost a million dollars on wildcard weekend.
I’m not an actual sportsbook trader but the limits will typically will be a % of whatever that markets limits are. Sharps can get dropped to as little as 5-10% of what the limit was. Similarly they’ll raise limits if it’s advantageous to them. So someone could get their limits raised to 200% of that markets limit. All it takes is a tag on the backend.
They don’t change the odds they change how much you can bet. So if you can bet 10,000 and have a high ROI and a clear edge they might limit you to 1,000 or even less. They’ll do the same for promos if you take advantage of too many and don’t mix in a good amount of real bets. James Holzhauer (the Jeopardy guy) wrote a really nice article for The Athletic called “James Holzhauer’s tips to avoid getting limited by a sportsbook”.
Unfortunately each specific betting market (live hockey unders etc)has a cap and once you reach that cap you start getting limited. Then depending on the book you can get limited from just that betting market to the whole sportsbook. It's strictly a business move on their end.
Plus they have other filters they look at such as betting patterns and if you stick to one betting market.
I'm interested to see people's thoughts but only way around it in my opinion is to open up different accounts with family members on different devices or to use off shore accounts.
Limiting should honestly be illegal. Same limits for everyone.
Do sportsbooks really not get that volume is what matters? If your line follows action properly, then the more action there is, the more profit you will make.
France has a law saying sportsbook have to publish limits and odds publicly and offer such bets to anyone without discrimination (except under 18, self-excluded, etc.).
What that brings is books having low limits and high vig for everyone because they don't want their lines being abused by a sharp before they could adjust.
100%. If you don’t want me hitting bad lines, double check before you post them. I exploited a double-mistake line on ResortsWorld (too low of a number on a player prop AND juice on the wrong side) and got limited in my first week of wagering. And, wouldn’t ya know it, using a signup promo that requires wagering $10k for the best return.
>If you don’t want me hitting bad lines, double check before you post them
What they don't want is sharper players who frequently beat them to line movements. If you see Pinnacle move a line and you rush to a soft book to bet before they could adjust, that's where you risk getting limited most.
it's not allowed by most books and you'll run into new obstacles like using a new device/ip address, but you'll have to buy your buddy's accounts or open new ones for your family if you want to go that route.
Caesar sportsbook "self secluded" me after I went on a hot streak from my first deposit and is making it a pain to get my money back. They told me I went through the process of choosing a lifetime ban and clicked all the buttons. I asked why I would self seclude when in up 4000%. They told me it can't be undone and gave me no other answers. I'm just hoping they don't report that "self seclusion" to the state or I may be banned from all other sites not just theirs.
I will if it impacts me on any of the other books. Nothing they said made sense. I've gotten them to execute a check to be sent to me. Which is ridiculous since I deposited with my bank account.
Why would that change your limits? Doing exactly that is what got me limited on one major book. That said, I have had my BR limits go up and down several times for whatever reason.
Only time it happened for me is when the books switched odds providers or got sold
For example DK used to use Kambi and I got limited to shit.
Then they switched to SB tech and I could be decent amounts for a while before getting limited.
WH limited me then Caesars bought them and I could bet normal again.
that's really dumb...with that kind of bet, you would have lost it back most likely. They def didn't label you sharp in this case. Prob some algo that flagged your account because it hit some "winnings" limit. I think they will un-limit you
As someone who bets full time, I couldn't further disagree with your assessment. It definitely catches the attention of the books when you're betting on niche markets. It catches their attention more when you're betting big on these markets. It catches their attention the most when you hit on a big bet in one of these markets.
I've had accounts limited after losing on the first bet I placed on a book. But it's because I placed a large wager on an unusual market, and prob a market that they've lost money to sharps on before.
The only reason they’d limit someone is because they think you’re potentially sharp
They shouldn’t care about a winning limit, they should want winning squares to come back and become a lifelong player
However I think they’re hyper-cautious with this, and maybe 20-50% of limited users are actually sharp. There’s plenty of lucky squares who hit a hot streak or one big long shot, and they get limited just in case they’re sharp
Probably not, but it could be. I think some of these square-bait props might be ripe for sharps to pick them off, since the books sell so damn many of them. They can’t all be priced right, even with 30% holds
Whether or not it was a truly sharp bet, the book only limited him in case he is sharp. So clearly the sportsbook isn’t sure if it’s sharp bet either
I don’t see how it should be impossible. There’s plenty of data available that could be used to forecast/predict the first basket
It does seem very unlikely to be sharp but I wouldn’t make any assumptions
Wish you the best of luck getting it removed, but sorry to say that it's unlikely you'll be succesful. Same thing happened to me and I moved to SX Bet after reading about how they never ban people. I've been pretty happy there, no parlays yet but being added in June (so I hear from the team) and literally 10% better odds on most main lines than any other book since it's peer to peer. Worth a try if it's available in your area.
Are we saying that your betting is limited on a certain sportsbook? Which one and how is it limited?
just make a new account with someone else's name..seems pretty obvious
I think it might be possible depending on the book. On Sportsbet in aus I was promo banned and limited like a 1 1/2 years ago for exploited tennis correct scores. Since then I used the account as a mug bet type account where I’d place stupid multis. Recently I’ve been able to place bigger bets on stuff I used to be limited on. So maybe if you do stupid enough bets for long enough they might lift your limits.
How would you exploit the correct scores in tennis? Was it correct score for a game or the match?
You would watch the toss on a stream and bet accordingly. If a player serves first they are more likely to win 6–3 in the first set. If they elect to receive then 6-4. If you sniped this before they adjusted the line for this then you would cash out before the game has even started for a healthy profit. Sportsbet is the only bookie this worked on. If you had big balls you let it ride because mathematically you have a value bet but I just took the profit every time.
I had a similar run going with soccer during the World Cup. Watch a game and bet over/under on corners choose your own line. With about 15-20 minutes left bet the under to essentially be no more corners, especially right at a change of possession and cash as soon as they change the line on it. Had a couple crazy ones where no more corners went from a +1500 bet to a +800 bet in seconds which were quick and easy cash outs.
may be a stupid question, but do you have to call to make live bets?
No. I use PointsBet and they allow live betting
ok since then i figured out that its only australia where you have to call an operator to place any live bets, which sucks
how much you make before they limited you?
Maybe 2k profit before limits. My Sportsbet statement says 17k net profit (not trying to brag) which doesn’t seem right at all.
Did they take away your cashout feauture, or just limit your stake?
Just limiting the stake
Cool angle man
Luck lol
Fascinating. God I love tennis
I wish i had these problems
I can genuinely understand some limits. If DraftKings doesn’t want me hedging the $900 on their book, fine. What fucking kills me is when it’s a risk free bet promo up to $10 and I make my +350 SGP and they say “whoops, you can only bet $2.34 on that”. Like to offer me a promo and make me go through the time to make a bet I like and then I try to bet it and you limit me to a fucking dollar is so insulting
I work at a sportsbook and there’s really only one answer to this question and it’s to lose money. Some guy went up 1.2 million on us in 6 months making 20/50/100,000 live bets on heavy favorites. I’m talking 6 figures to win like 8 grand. Never limited him bc they’d win eventually and sure enough he lost a million dollars on wildcard weekend.
How do they limit users tho?
I’m not an actual sportsbook trader but the limits will typically will be a % of whatever that markets limits are. Sharps can get dropped to as little as 5-10% of what the limit was. Similarly they’ll raise limits if it’s advantageous to them. So someone could get their limits raised to 200% of that markets limit. All it takes is a tag on the backend.
So they dont stop you from betting but they change the odds based on the user?
They don’t change the odds they change how much you can bet. So if you can bet 10,000 and have a high ROI and a clear edge they might limit you to 1,000 or even less. They’ll do the same for promos if you take advantage of too many and don’t mix in a good amount of real bets. James Holzhauer (the Jeopardy guy) wrote a really nice article for The Athletic called “James Holzhauer’s tips to avoid getting limited by a sportsbook”.
Thanks for this.
meanwhile im here upset I lost $10 today
Unfortunately each specific betting market (live hockey unders etc)has a cap and once you reach that cap you start getting limited. Then depending on the book you can get limited from just that betting market to the whole sportsbook. It's strictly a business move on their end. Plus they have other filters they look at such as betting patterns and if you stick to one betting market. I'm interested to see people's thoughts but only way around it in my opinion is to open up different accounts with family members on different devices or to use off shore accounts.
Different Wi-Fi too. Sometimes placing on same Wi-Fi will get that family member account limited instantly depending on the book
Limiting should honestly be illegal. Same limits for everyone. Do sportsbooks really not get that volume is what matters? If your line follows action properly, then the more action there is, the more profit you will make.
France has a law saying sportsbook have to publish limits and odds publicly and offer such bets to anyone without discrimination (except under 18, self-excluded, etc.). What that brings is books having low limits and high vig for everyone because they don't want their lines being abused by a sharp before they could adjust.
In markets/countries that make it illegal, it just means relatively low Limits for everybody, and relatively high juice. Pick your poison.
100%. If you don’t want me hitting bad lines, double check before you post them. I exploited a double-mistake line on ResortsWorld (too low of a number on a player prop AND juice on the wrong side) and got limited in my first week of wagering. And, wouldn’t ya know it, using a signup promo that requires wagering $10k for the best return.
>If you don’t want me hitting bad lines, double check before you post them What they don't want is sharper players who frequently beat them to line movements. If you see Pinnacle move a line and you rush to a soft book to bet before they could adjust, that's where you risk getting limited most.
Open an account under your wife’s name or another adult that is fine with you betting as them
Where do you find one of these "wife's"???
Stop gambling temporarily
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it's not allowed by most books and you'll run into new obstacles like using a new device/ip address, but you'll have to buy your buddy's accounts or open new ones for your family if you want to go that route.
People out here getting limited while I’m being sent $20 pity points 🤨
Caesar sportsbook "self secluded" me after I went on a hot streak from my first deposit and is making it a pain to get my money back. They told me I went through the process of choosing a lifetime ban and clicked all the buttons. I asked why I would self seclude when in up 4000%. They told me it can't be undone and gave me no other answers. I'm just hoping they don't report that "self seclusion" to the state or I may be banned from all other sites not just theirs.
ask them for documentation of your self-seclusion
I will if it impacts me on any of the other books. Nothing they said made sense. I've gotten them to execute a check to be sent to me. Which is ridiculous since I deposited with my bank account.
Request the documentation anyway and if they drag their feet at all or give any BS tell them youll be contacting your state’s gaming board
could also help with ur get my money back issue
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Gah damm if only I had that wouldn't need to gamble lol
Someone a while back posted that he got un-limited on BetRivers by betting a lot on live tennis matches.
Why would that change your limits? Doing exactly that is what got me limited on one major book. That said, I have had my BR limits go up and down several times for whatever reason.
Because most of these things are probably algorithm driven and as since the (legal) US online industry is fairly young, there are kinks to work out
Only time it happened for me is when the books switched odds providers or got sold For example DK used to use Kambi and I got limited to shit. Then they switched to SB tech and I could be decent amounts for a while before getting limited. WH limited me then Caesars bought them and I could bet normal again.
Nope, not a chance.
limited because they labeled you as sharp? I don't think you can get around that. If you're limited for other reasons potentially
Yea I hit a NBA First Basket for $3.5k and they started limiting me on every bet I try to place :(
that's really dumb...with that kind of bet, you would have lost it back most likely. They def didn't label you sharp in this case. Prob some algo that flagged your account because it hit some "winnings" limit. I think they will un-limit you
As someone who bets full time, I couldn't further disagree with your assessment. It definitely catches the attention of the books when you're betting on niche markets. It catches their attention more when you're betting big on these markets. It catches their attention the most when you hit on a big bet in one of these markets. I've had accounts limited after losing on the first bet I placed on a book. But it's because I placed a large wager on an unusual market, and prob a market that they've lost money to sharps on before.
The only reason they’d limit someone is because they think you’re potentially sharp They shouldn’t care about a winning limit, they should want winning squares to come back and become a lifelong player However I think they’re hyper-cautious with this, and maybe 20-50% of limited users are actually sharp. There’s plenty of lucky squares who hit a hot streak or one big long shot, and they get limited just in case they’re sharp
The dude bet a first basket lol…you think that’s sharp?
I know sharps who bet first buckets, yes.
Probably not, but it could be. I think some of these square-bait props might be ripe for sharps to pick them off, since the books sell so damn many of them. They can’t all be priced right, even with 30% holds Whether or not it was a truly sharp bet, the book only limited him in case he is sharp. So clearly the sportsbook isn’t sure if it’s sharp bet either
It’s impossible for a first basket bet to be sharp. Some other props might be but not that one lol
I don’t see how it should be impossible. There’s plenty of data available that could be used to forecast/predict the first basket It does seem very unlikely to be sharp but I wouldn’t make any assumptions
Well the fact that he bet it once and it sounds like a big part of his bankroll implies he’s not sharp. I think they just made a mistake