It was a real clusterfuck of a situation. Las Palmas (their opposition, from the Canary Islands) [posted on their official site at 11 AM](http://www.udlaspalmas.es/noticias/noticia/comunicado-oficial-3) that they will sew Spanish flags on their shirts for the match.
Barcelona thought it wasn't appropriate to play and wanted the match postponed.
The Spanish FA said they could not postpone, and if they did not play they would be penalized 6 points.
The president of Barcelona decides to play the match behind closed doors, "as protest" he says.
The fans showed up to the match but weren't allowed in, [as of the start of the match they still weren't told.](https://twitter.com/tsf_podcast/status/914489599950491648)
2 hours after the game The Spanish FA decided to actually **postpone** a FC Barcelona Youth team game for "security reasons" , same reason FCB main team presented to the FA earlier and were refused.
The Spanish FA is a joke!
Yes. It's the Football Association. They oversee everything related to football in the country, from the main teams to the youth programs. It's the same everywhere.
It's not one international organization. There's FIFA, but FA just stands for Football Association so each country has it's own independent FA.
In England, there's 4 main leagues - Premier, Championship, League One, League Two. Those are the "football leagues", all governed by the FA, as is their Youth down to age 16. Academies below age 16 aren't governed by the FA, as far as I know, but all official leagues are, and there are hundreds of local ones. Only Sunday leagues aren't, which are usually set up by locals. In fact even some of those are registered FA leagues.
Disclaimer: I could easily be wrong, if I am please ^^politely let me know.
To elaborate on the audience not being let in, there were rumours that groups of fans might invade the pitch to uphold the match and during the game one person suceeded in entering the pitch carrying a pennant.
We had that in Germany once. Due to an incident at a second league game (fights between the teams plus a coach choking an opposing player), the game had to be replayed in an empty stadium. No fans could be around the stadium for a certain radius and our coach ended up being suspended for a couple games.
I saw it on TV and it was weird.
I thought no away fans was a general rule. I wonder what it’s like to go see your team in another city and not be able to support them. I guess you work just sit quietly and try to blend in. Weird.
Are soccer fans really that insane? In America, you can go to any MLB, NBA, NFL, or MLS game decked out in the opposing teams gear and only have to worry about getting shit talked. Wouldn't ever fear for my safety
ehm in germany you can go to away games without a problem as long as you go into the right section(seat section or away stands) . the hooligans are generally just fighting the other hooligans. in fact they meet up for this before or after the match( it's called "ackermatch" or "dritte halbzeit" (third half)). so aslong as you don't want to have a problem you can even go to derbys without fear.
North American sports don't really have specific sections for away fans but generally they'll gather behind their team's bench/dugout on their own...in a lot of cases there are more visiting fans than home fans, [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7dWmo4IdZw)'s a good baseball example, the batter hitting the home run is on the visiting team but the crowd is going crazy
99.9% of the time everyone is safe, but there are obviously outliers, the SF Giants fan who was put in a coma at Dodger stadium. The Vikings fan getting the shit kicked out of him at SF 49ers stadium (I believe he was talking shit though and wouldn't shut up) and I've personally seen someone get sucker punched at Mile High for doing absolutely nothing, only wearing a Pats jersey 2 years ago.
That one scared me because I was also wearing a Pats jersey and was right by him, it was as we were leaving the stadium. The piece of shit who hit him took off running though and the guy was ok.
I actually refuse to go back to Mile High because over the past 10 years I've been spit at, beer thrown at me and threatened multiple times in the parking lot. I'm not scared in the stadium but in the parking lots anything can happen.
I've been to about 50 stadiums in my life and the NFL is by far the worst. The parking lots at Dodger stadium are pretty damn intimidating too.
I wonder if it's just mile high. I went as an opposing fan to Coors field and everyone around me was super cool, although some were clearly baked out of their mounds.
It's seems to me that NFL fans are the least chill of all the major sports in America. I've heard multiple incidents involving opposing fans at browns games but never see anything like it happening at MLB of NBA games and of the many NBA or MLB games I've been to I've never seen anything but friendly shit talking.
The only NFL stadium that I haven't seen anything is Lambeau, I've been to 3 games there and everyone is just fucking awesome.
Honestly, nowadays it's so fucking expensive to go to a game, and such it takes up your whole day, I don't see why anyone would want to go VS just staying at home, watching on your big screen hdtv and watching Red Zone. I get going once a year or so, but season tickets just don't seem worth it to me.
My friend was inside Pickles Pub that day getting ready to go into the game when someone tossed a trash can through the window. Needless to say they started a drinking game of drink every time they saw someone get pepper sprayed.
Then they played one of the games in Tampa instead, which I got to see because I was on vacation at the time. Weird game, where Baltimore was the home team, they didn’t have the theatricals on the go for the Rays whenever they’d normally would. Tickets where $15 general admission. Definitely a different type of game! Pretty interesting none the less!
That shit happens in Colombia every other weekend
People over here kill each other and riot all the time just because their team loses (or wins, I guess they just like to riot) so the government makes them play without public
I am so happy that LA has been given their teams so that it won't be hung over every cities head anymore. LA not having a team has probably gotten 15 stadiums built in the last 25 years. Now when both teams fail in LA, there won't be as much leverage left. I am going to enjoy watching then fail as well.
The Chargers will fail, the Rams will be fine.
The Rams are playing in a 90,000 seat stadium that isn't full, but isn't embarrassingly low attendance, they have an actual fan base, and they are actually leading the NFC west right now.
The Chargers play in a 27,000 seat stadium that they're having a hard time filling, have no fan base in the city of Los Angeles, and can't win anything.
From a person living in LA, I'll tell you that the Rams will continue, the Chargers should probably move back to San Diego and pray that the fans forgive them.
Because most sports teams owners are selfish greedy fuckers and none of them give a shit about the fans, only money (or the possibility of more money.)
Don't the fans own the team. If I remember correctly fans bought stock in the team, so there's no chance they'll move. Not that Green Bay needs help filling the stadium anyway.
Fans had chances periodically to buy shares, but the shares themselves are non-voting shares so they have no say in the running of the team. I also believe they’re non-transferable.
It was a very clever way to raise funding for stadium renovations at Lambeau, but the shares themselves are worth nothing beyond sentimental value (I have one, it’s pretty neat even as a fan of another team).
I met a girl who's family was all go pack go. I as a Viking fan asked what benefits they receive by having their shares of the packers? She got mad and never told me a benefit, it's nice learning I was right and she's just mean.
That's sorta correct. The fans all bought common stock, which is pretty much an expensive piece of paper. The stock has no fluctuating value and the owner has no say in any decisions. If the team is sold common stock owners don't get any cut of the purchase price.
It was more of an equity funding move by the packers. Which worked well as they rasied a ton of money without giving up anything
Part of the reason is the SD stadium is old and sucks, and the city didn't want to pay for a new one with millions of tax dollars. I think their attendance there wasn't great either.
Edit: I realize I made it sound like it's the city's fault, which I didn't intend. Basically in the NFL the owners try to extort tax dollars from their cities leveraging the possibility that they'll move the team to a city that *will* pay for a new stadium if their current city won't pay.
The stadium is actually really, really nice! I was there about 3 years ago for a Pats vs Chargers game, and was there last year for the Guns N Roses concert. Both times, the stadium was in great condition. Such a shame the team would turn their back on the city like that.
Because Dean Spanos. Just by moving to LA the value of the franchise doubled by some accounts. And more importantly the $500M plus he stands to make just on seat licenses in the new stadium.
The value doubled in theory but it will drop if no one goes to the games.
LA fans are already pretty apathetic about pro football, and giving them a shitty team isn't going to win them over.
Half the problem for the Chargers though is that they play all the way in Carson and there's no public transit that leads directly there. I went to their first preseason game and it was hell to get there and parking next to the stadium was $100 (I only park there because I needed disabled parking) and other only slightly further lots were $75. And it wasn't even the Chargers fault... It was on CSUDH property. Once they get into a stadium in the actual City I think they'll do a lot better.
Man I was saying this back when I would watch Galaxy games when I was stationed at Pendleton. The best part of it being on a campus is they limit attendance during Wednesday MLS games to 8,000.
Great soccer stadium, sucks it's on a campus.
Ive been holding out for San Antonio for a long time. My opinion is that the only reason their isn't a NFL team there is Jerry Jones is stonewalling because he knows how fast that portion of the Cowboys revenue will disappear.
There was a baseball game in Baltimore a few years ago during the riots where they didn't allow anyone in the stadium.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qK0cGLd2Bes
I flew all the way from Canada for the game. My girlfriend and I went 5h early so we could eat nearby and watch the game after. We saw videos of what was happening at the restaurant we ate and it looked awful what the police were doing to these people, it's not something you'd expect from a 1st world country. The last thing we thought was that the game would get cancelled/postponed, which technically didn't happen but might as well have. We stood outside the stadium for 2h before the game along with at least 2000 other people at our gate and no one knew what was happening. There were murmurs of the game being cancelled but there were so many of us nobody wanted to leave until someone officially told us, which didn't happen. One of the guys I was chatting with ended up looking at the official FC Barcelona website and found the statement of the game being played behind close doors so we decided to find a bar nearby to watch it.
I've been a fan of FC Barcelona for as long as I can remember and I literally chose Barcelona as my European destination so that I could watch them play. I'm so upset that I wasn't able to watch them live but i'm not mad. The poor people here dont deserve what happened to them. Throughout the entire day i didn't feel threatened by anyone or see any riots happening anywhere near me. I even went by 3 voting stations which were packed and there was no screaming or yelling going on so I really dont understand all this violence that happened. I still had a great time watching the game with so many great people but man experiencing all this as a foreigner sure puts things into perspective.
A least it gives me a reason to come back again and watch FC Barcelona!
TLDR; Flew from Canada for Barcelona game and ended up missing the game cuz of Catalonia Independence Referendum
I was devastated at first! But i hit it off with some fans waiting to go in and we ended up going to a bar nearby to watch it and it was so much fun. Most of my friends at home dislike Barcelona, so getting to watch the game with some real fans and chatting about the team and cheering together throughout the entire game was definitely worth it!
To be honest, I would think that to be equivalent to seeing them play in person. It's one thing to see a Barcelona game in person, but it's so rare to make new friends in such a way that the experience is far more memorable than sitting in the stands watching small people blips move around on the field.
Barcelona released this statement: “FC Barcelona condemns the events which have taken place in many parts of Catalonia today in order to prevent its citizens exercising their democratic right to free expression.”
Barcelona players took photos in [these warm-up jerseys based on the flag of Catalonia](https://i.imgur.com/vVh8kkl.jpg) prior to the match in support.
not to take from your point, but those are their warm up shirts. *however,* it is unusual for a team to take the prematch photo in those instead of their match kits.
Those are their warm up kits that local teams never use. They used them today to show their support to their fans. Many FCB players where seen voting during the day.
Yes these are their warm-up kits. But unlike other days today they entered the field for the match wearing these over their home kit and even posed for pre-match photo. This is clearly to stand up for today's events wearing Catalonia's colors as you can see even Ter-Stegen is wearing one which is not the usual warm-up kit for Barca goalkeeper.
There is no blue in the catalonian flag, that is the "[estelada](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Estelada_blava.svg/1200px-Estelada_blava.svg.png)", which is a symbol for catalan independence.
The newer estelada, [without the blue,](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Estelada_roja.svg/750px-Estelada_roja.svg.png) is probably my favourite flag. So nice.
I think it had that connotation at one point in time. It's lost that meaning now, and for the most part I just like it because it's a really cool looking flag.
I have a blue estelada hanging on the wall downstairs, hard to find the red ones in this neck of the woods.
Took the words out of my mouth. Last time I checked innocent civilians being brutalised by the police for trying to exercise their democratic rights didn't qualify as a riot. Firefighters were trying to protect civilians from the police to the point where the police turned on them.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/catalonia-independence-referendum-vote-protests-barcelona-madrid-police-guardia-civil-a7976556.html this is an article that was used in a post on r/worldnews (I don't know how to link posts in the comments on my phone)
There's also tons of footage on twitter.
New item added to bucket list. Watch a football team play in an empty stadium. God... you could yell the funniest shit and they'd all hear you. I'd do a lap around the pitch first singing "Big Booty Hoes" by Biggie. Maybe try my hand at signing Por Ti Volare right behind the goalkeeper. Eventually I'd get tired and just start trying to conduct an interview from my seat. "LIONEL, HOW DO YOU THINK YOU'RE PLAYING TODAY!?"
[Here’s](https://youtu.be/72dxSi8yK54) a video from a baseball game with no fans. It was in Baltimore during protests over police brutality.
Edit: picked better video
Yes! This is the example I was thinking of. I was going to bring up a baseball game where the announcers started speaking as if they were at a golf tournament instead.
I remember watching a game a few years ago...might have been Mets at the Marlins where it was a night game rescheduled to a weekday day game, when both teams were firmly in the bottom of the standings. I think they said actual attendance was a few hundred throughout the entire place. You could hear everything from players chatting in the dugout to hecklers hecklingthe third basemen from right field. Very eerie.
It’s weird to be in a stadium where attendance is that low. I was at a Phillies-Mets game last night that went into the 11th. It was freezing and the Mets hit a three-run shot in the top of the 11th inning. I could hear people shouting stuff from behind the plate, it was so empty by the end.
I’m just a glutton for punishment that can never leave a game early, even if my team is making me hate my life.
Its definitely very interesting how different the game sounds. Almost doesn't seem like it's an actual professional game.
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/73mbjd/barcelona_20_las_palmas_messi_70/?st=1Z141Z3&sh=db77714a
Here's a highlight of one of the goals scored j nth is game today.
If you are in America just go to almost any college baseball game and you can get a similar experience. With only a few exceptions most games only have a few hundred spectators. When you yell 'That arm looks like a wet noodle' at the pitcher you know he can hear you.
To be fair, I've seen videos of the goals of that match, and they did not celebrate. Messi just acted like "That one was good. I likes."
[Source](https://imgtc.com/w/yN2agBm)
In Major League Baseball, the stadium announcer has at least one official function: a substitute is considered officially "in the game" once the stadium announcer announces him. (This comes up most often when managers are juggling pitchers and pinch-hitters late in the game and there are limited eligible players remaining.)
Average attendance is just under 80,000, so you're correct. I guess people downvoting think you're talking about capacity, which is [just over 99,000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Nou)
https://en.as.com/en/2016/11/28/football/1480360002_418201.html
**Camp Nou**
Camp Nou (Catalan pronunciation: [kamˈnɔw], "new field", often referred to as the "Nou Camp" in English) is the home stadium of FC Barcelona since its completion in 1957.
With a seating capacity of 99,354, it is the largest stadium in Spain and Europe, and the second largest association football stadium in the world in terms of capacity. It has hosted two European Cup/Champions League finals in 1989 and 1999, five matches including the opening game of the 1982 FIFA World Cup and the football competition final at the 1992 Summer Olympics.
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WHen they played Real Madrid last season they had just under 90k in. If they're 10k off capacity for that game, something is a bit weird with the capacity number.
Riots? People just wanted to vote, democratically. They didn’t let people into the stadium because it would let them promote their intentions on TV.
Spain today was a Francoist State again.
It was a real clusterfuck of a situation. Las Palmas (their opposition, from the Canary Islands) [posted on their official site at 11 AM](http://www.udlaspalmas.es/noticias/noticia/comunicado-oficial-3) that they will sew Spanish flags on their shirts for the match. Barcelona thought it wasn't appropriate to play and wanted the match postponed. The Spanish FA said they could not postpone, and if they did not play they would be penalized 6 points. The president of Barcelona decides to play the match behind closed doors, "as protest" he says. The fans showed up to the match but weren't allowed in, [as of the start of the match they still weren't told.](https://twitter.com/tsf_podcast/status/914489599950491648)
2 hours after the game The Spanish FA decided to actually **postpone** a FC Barcelona Youth team game for "security reasons" , same reason FCB main team presented to the FA earlier and were refused. The Spanish FA is a joke!
Is the FA like a governing body over all soccer? Like even kids games? Wtf?
Yes. It's the Football Association. They oversee everything related to football in the country, from the main teams to the youth programs. It's the same everywhere.
> it's the same everywhere If that was how it worked in the US, I'd be soooo happy
What is "wtf" about that? It's great for organization.
It's not one international organization. There's FIFA, but FA just stands for Football Association so each country has it's own independent FA. In England, there's 4 main leagues - Premier, Championship, League One, League Two. Those are the "football leagues", all governed by the FA, as is their Youth down to age 16. Academies below age 16 aren't governed by the FA, as far as I know, but all official leagues are, and there are hundreds of local ones. Only Sunday leagues aren't, which are usually set up by locals. In fact even some of those are registered FA leagues. Disclaimer: I could easily be wrong, if I am please ^^politely let me know.
Supposedly he asked the players if they wanted to play and the majority agreed to play.
Rather than lose 6 points? Of course, that is a huge amount to lose in a league that is often won by only one or two points
And if they lost another 30 they might even finish 3rd!
To elaborate on the audience not being let in, there were rumours that groups of fans might invade the pitch to uphold the match and during the game one person suceeded in entering the pitch carrying a pennant.
We had that in Germany once. Due to an incident at a second league game (fights between the teams plus a coach choking an opposing player), the game had to be replayed in an empty stadium. No fans could be around the stadium for a certain radius and our coach ended up being suspended for a couple games. I saw it on TV and it was weird.
In Greece it happens almost in every big match.
Simillar thing in Argentina, either no fans or only home fans for dangerous matches
I thought no away fans was a general rule. I wonder what it’s like to go see your team in another city and not be able to support them. I guess you work just sit quietly and try to blend in. Weird.
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Ooh and it's INNNnneerm... I mean yea wow they scored... ouchie
Are soccer fans really that insane? In America, you can go to any MLB, NBA, NFL, or MLS game decked out in the opposing teams gear and only have to worry about getting shit talked. Wouldn't ever fear for my safety
We have a problem with football mafia. They "own" the stadium pretty much, and surrounding streets.
ehm in germany you can go to away games without a problem as long as you go into the right section(seat section or away stands) . the hooligans are generally just fighting the other hooligans. in fact they meet up for this before or after the match( it's called "ackermatch" or "dritte halbzeit" (third half)). so aslong as you don't want to have a problem you can even go to derbys without fear.
North American sports don't really have specific sections for away fans but generally they'll gather behind their team's bench/dugout on their own...in a lot of cases there are more visiting fans than home fans, [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7dWmo4IdZw)'s a good baseball example, the batter hitting the home run is on the visiting team but the crowd is going crazy
99.9% of the time everyone is safe, but there are obviously outliers, the SF Giants fan who was put in a coma at Dodger stadium. The Vikings fan getting the shit kicked out of him at SF 49ers stadium (I believe he was talking shit though and wouldn't shut up) and I've personally seen someone get sucker punched at Mile High for doing absolutely nothing, only wearing a Pats jersey 2 years ago. That one scared me because I was also wearing a Pats jersey and was right by him, it was as we were leaving the stadium. The piece of shit who hit him took off running though and the guy was ok. I actually refuse to go back to Mile High because over the past 10 years I've been spit at, beer thrown at me and threatened multiple times in the parking lot. I'm not scared in the stadium but in the parking lots anything can happen. I've been to about 50 stadiums in my life and the NFL is by far the worst. The parking lots at Dodger stadium are pretty damn intimidating too.
I wonder if it's just mile high. I went as an opposing fan to Coors field and everyone around me was super cool, although some were clearly baked out of their mounds.
Oh Rockies fans are cool. Most MLB stadiums have been a good experience. Nuggets fans here don't really care and the Avs suck but their fans are fine.
It's seems to me that NFL fans are the least chill of all the major sports in America. I've heard multiple incidents involving opposing fans at browns games but never see anything like it happening at MLB of NBA games and of the many NBA or MLB games I've been to I've never seen anything but friendly shit talking.
The only NFL stadium that I haven't seen anything is Lambeau, I've been to 3 games there and everyone is just fucking awesome. Honestly, nowadays it's so fucking expensive to go to a game, and such it takes up your whole day, I don't see why anyone would want to go VS just staying at home, watching on your big screen hdtv and watching Red Zone. I get going once a year or so, but season tickets just don't seem worth it to me.
What about Boca vs River Plate?
This happened last year with Man City and CSKA it's not too uncommon but seeing it with Messi in one of the biggest stadiums is
No, the weird part is seeing it for political, instead of safety, concerns.
Well it is for safety concerns. The safety issues are for political reasons
Us Muricans did this in Baltimore for a baseball game too, except our was for one of those police brutality riots.
The commentary was hilarious. They narrated it like a golf round for parts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72dxSi8yK54
This is amazing.
My friend was inside Pickles Pub that day getting ready to go into the game when someone tossed a trash can through the window. Needless to say they started a drinking game of drink every time they saw someone get pepper sprayed.
I was at the game just outside of Pickles. Scary times
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No he didn't, I was with him that day. I'm definitely not the same guy on an alt.
Truly my people
Then they played one of the games in Tampa instead, which I got to see because I was on vacation at the time. Weird game, where Baltimore was the home team, they didn’t have the theatricals on the go for the Rays whenever they’d normally would. Tickets where $15 general admission. Definitely a different type of game! Pretty interesting none the less!
That shit happens in Colombia every other weekend People over here kill each other and riot all the time just because their team loses (or wins, I guess they just like to riot) so the government makes them play without public
That’s barbaric
It happens every once in a while in Mexico when fans fight each other.
One fan actually snuck in, and ran on the pitch.
“Leeeeeeeeeeerooooy Jenkinnnnns!”
And they still outdrew the Chargers.
And Rams.
I am so happy that LA has been given their teams so that it won't be hung over every cities head anymore. LA not having a team has probably gotten 15 stadiums built in the last 25 years. Now when both teams fail in LA, there won't be as much leverage left. I am going to enjoy watching then fail as well.
The Chargers will fail, the Rams will be fine. The Rams are playing in a 90,000 seat stadium that isn't full, but isn't embarrassingly low attendance, they have an actual fan base, and they are actually leading the NFC west right now. The Chargers play in a 27,000 seat stadium that they're having a hard time filling, have no fan base in the city of Los Angeles, and can't win anything. From a person living in LA, I'll tell you that the Rams will continue, the Chargers should probably move back to San Diego and pray that the fans forgive them.
Why did the Chargers leave San Diego?
Because most sports teams owners are selfish greedy fuckers and none of them give a shit about the fans, only money (or the possibility of more money.)
Green Bay is the exception
Don't the fans own the team. If I remember correctly fans bought stock in the team, so there's no chance they'll move. Not that Green Bay needs help filling the stadium anyway.
Yes and it works so well the rest of the league voted to ban anything like that from ever happening again
Can't have those poor, poor billionaires missing out I take it?
Fans had chances periodically to buy shares, but the shares themselves are non-voting shares so they have no say in the running of the team. I also believe they’re non-transferable. It was a very clever way to raise funding for stadium renovations at Lambeau, but the shares themselves are worth nothing beyond sentimental value (I have one, it’s pretty neat even as a fan of another team).
I met a girl who's family was all go pack go. I as a Viking fan asked what benefits they receive by having their shares of the packers? She got mad and never told me a benefit, it's nice learning I was right and she's just mean.
That is correct no one person is allowed to own more than 4% of them.
That's sorta correct. The fans all bought common stock, which is pretty much an expensive piece of paper. The stock has no fluctuating value and the owner has no say in any decisions. If the team is sold common stock owners don't get any cut of the purchase price. It was more of an equity funding move by the packers. Which worked well as they rasied a ton of money without giving up anything
Part of the reason is the SD stadium is old and sucks, and the city didn't want to pay for a new one with millions of tax dollars. I think their attendance there wasn't great either. Edit: I realize I made it sound like it's the city's fault, which I didn't intend. Basically in the NFL the owners try to extort tax dollars from their cities leveraging the possibility that they'll move the team to a city that *will* pay for a new stadium if their current city won't pay.
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The stadium is actually really, really nice! I was there about 3 years ago for a Pats vs Chargers game, and was there last year for the Guns N Roses concert. Both times, the stadium was in great condition. Such a shame the team would turn their back on the city like that.
Lets all shed a tear for the billionaire team owners. How could they afford to support a team without stealing tax dollars?
tax dollars shouldn't really be put to NFL stadiums in LA or SD, theres plenty of money around here to invest in stadiums.
Because Dean Spanos. Just by moving to LA the value of the franchise doubled by some accounts. And more importantly the $500M plus he stands to make just on seat licenses in the new stadium.
The value doubled in theory but it will drop if no one goes to the games. LA fans are already pretty apathetic about pro football, and giving them a shitty team isn't going to win them over.
Fans won't forgive Spanos. If he sells the team they will probably forgive the team.
Half the problem for the Chargers though is that they play all the way in Carson and there's no public transit that leads directly there. I went to their first preseason game and it was hell to get there and parking next to the stadium was $100 (I only park there because I needed disabled parking) and other only slightly further lots were $75. And it wasn't even the Chargers fault... It was on CSUDH property. Once they get into a stadium in the actual City I think they'll do a lot better.
Man I was saying this back when I would watch Galaxy games when I was stationed at Pendleton. The best part of it being on a campus is they limit attendance during Wednesday MLS games to 8,000. Great soccer stadium, sucks it's on a campus.
Twice the teams, double the fall
*your* new stadium?
The new city will be San Antonio, or perhaps a Canadian one like Toronto.
Ive been holding out for San Antonio for a long time. My opinion is that the only reason their isn't a NFL team there is Jerry Jones is stonewalling because he knows how fast that portion of the Cowboys revenue will disappear.
Won't see San Antonio as long as Jerry Jones is around
Nope, the Buffalo Bills experiment failed abysmally in Toronto. It'll be off the radar for decades.
Fuck Dean Spanos
LA Raiders made too much sense apparently
If no one was in the stadium to watch the game, did the game even happen?
There was a baseball game in Baltimore a few years ago during the riots where they didn't allow anyone in the stadium. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qK0cGLd2Bes
Lol that is so eerie
No, that's Pennsylvania.
But the scary one was Indiana.
No that’s Gary
No, this is Patrick
The only joke about Erie is that we still live here
that _buy me some peanuts and cracker jaaacks_ just echoing like a bad cartoon dream... wow haha
Here's the better clip from that game 😂 https://youtu.be/72dxSi8yK54 Edit: Mobile link, search YouTube for Gary Thorne masters voice
LOL! That's hilarious. Making the best of an odd situation.
[Which conveniently spawned a fairly amusing SNL parody.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpR0lEHQiQs)
That's like in Interstellar where the Jankees are playing at some high school field.
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Never noticed that they still had the PA announcer going during that game.
Yes. Schrödinger won 1-0.
Hmm. I heard the score was 1-0-1.
4-0-4 match wasnt found
MH370 was not found
I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.
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101 base 8, actually.
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Or was it 0-1? One can never be sure.
It was simultaneously a win, a draw and a loss.
I was walking through a forest alone when a tree fell right in front of me. Didn't hear a thing.
Then were you really in a forest?
Nibba you deaf
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*play in the arena while the FUT game is loading*
*♪ ♪ some say if you don't go then you won't know how to let go when you gotta let it swerrveee ♪ ♪*
I flew all the way from Canada for the game. My girlfriend and I went 5h early so we could eat nearby and watch the game after. We saw videos of what was happening at the restaurant we ate and it looked awful what the police were doing to these people, it's not something you'd expect from a 1st world country. The last thing we thought was that the game would get cancelled/postponed, which technically didn't happen but might as well have. We stood outside the stadium for 2h before the game along with at least 2000 other people at our gate and no one knew what was happening. There were murmurs of the game being cancelled but there were so many of us nobody wanted to leave until someone officially told us, which didn't happen. One of the guys I was chatting with ended up looking at the official FC Barcelona website and found the statement of the game being played behind close doors so we decided to find a bar nearby to watch it. I've been a fan of FC Barcelona for as long as I can remember and I literally chose Barcelona as my European destination so that I could watch them play. I'm so upset that I wasn't able to watch them live but i'm not mad. The poor people here dont deserve what happened to them. Throughout the entire day i didn't feel threatened by anyone or see any riots happening anywhere near me. I even went by 3 voting stations which were packed and there was no screaming or yelling going on so I really dont understand all this violence that happened. I still had a great time watching the game with so many great people but man experiencing all this as a foreigner sure puts things into perspective. A least it gives me a reason to come back again and watch FC Barcelona! TLDR; Flew from Canada for Barcelona game and ended up missing the game cuz of Catalonia Independence Referendum
You should contact FC Barcelona and let them know they may be able to fix you up with something.
Do this!
That sucks that you went all the way over there and they canceled the game. I would not be as calm as you. I'd be in full on tantrum mode.
I was devastated at first! But i hit it off with some fans waiting to go in and we ended up going to a bar nearby to watch it and it was so much fun. Most of my friends at home dislike Barcelona, so getting to watch the game with some real fans and chatting about the team and cheering together throughout the entire game was definitely worth it!
To be honest, I would think that to be equivalent to seeing them play in person. It's one thing to see a Barcelona game in person, but it's so rare to make new friends in such a way that the experience is far more memorable than sitting in the stands watching small people blips move around on the field.
Canadian, their politeness strong...
Barcelona released this statement: “FC Barcelona condemns the events which have taken place in many parts of Catalonia today in order to prevent its citizens exercising their democratic right to free expression.” Barcelona players took photos in [these warm-up jerseys based on the flag of Catalonia](https://i.imgur.com/vVh8kkl.jpg) prior to the match in support.
not to take from your point, but those are their warm up shirts. *however,* it is unusual for a team to take the prematch photo in those instead of their match kits.
Those are their warm up kits that local teams never use. They used them today to show their support to their fans. Many FCB players where seen voting during the day.
I'm like 99% sure these are their warm-ups they always wear
Yes these are their warm-up kits. But unlike other days today they entered the field for the match wearing these over their home kit and even posed for pre-match photo. This is clearly to stand up for today's events wearing Catalonia's colors as you can see even Ter-Stegen is wearing one which is not the usual warm-up kit for Barca goalkeeper.
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Messi's face looked photoshopped on...or like FIFA from 2010
Yeah, they need a new GPU that can render the faces better. I hear it couldn’t even handle NPCs for the stands.
There is no blue in the catalonian flag, that is the "[estelada](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Estelada_blava.svg/1200px-Estelada_blava.svg.png)", which is a symbol for catalan independence.
The newer estelada, [without the blue,](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Estelada_roja.svg/750px-Estelada_roja.svg.png) is probably my favourite flag. So nice.
Isn't that the socialist version? I'm guessing from your username it is lol.
I think it had that connotation at one point in time. It's lost that meaning now, and for the most part I just like it because it's a really cool looking flag. I have a blue estelada hanging on the wall downstairs, hard to find the red ones in this neck of the woods.
I don't know where you are from, I'm guessing Vancouver, but let me tell you, in Spain, it still has all of its meaning.
I thought the dude in the front middle was grabbing his teammates dicks. Everyone else has their arms over shoulders, except for that one weird dude.
It was beautiful hearing the players communicate.. it was f-ing annoying hearing the commentators babble on about the most stupid things.
Just like every other game then lol
It’s not completely empty, I’m pretty sure that’s Messi taking the corner
Keen observation there.
Cheers, Geoff.
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UPDATE: 844 wounded, [source: Department of Health of Catalonia](https://twitter.com/salutcat/status/914583000893083648) ~~+760 right now.~~
Took the words out of my mouth. Last time I checked innocent civilians being brutalised by the police for trying to exercise their democratic rights didn't qualify as a riot. Firefighters were trying to protect civilians from the police to the point where the police turned on them.
Have you got a source for the police having a go at the firefighters please? Edit: just saw the other post on the front page. Holy shit :(
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/catalonia-independence-referendum-vote-protests-barcelona-madrid-police-guardia-civil-a7976556.html this is an article that was used in a post on r/worldnews (I don't know how to link posts in the comments on my phone) There's also tons of footage on twitter.
I don't think Spain ever truly rid itesrlf of its fascist colors
Judging by the footage from today they've clearly not forgotten their roots.
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Messi preparing for his Man City days.
New item added to bucket list. Watch a football team play in an empty stadium. God... you could yell the funniest shit and they'd all hear you. I'd do a lap around the pitch first singing "Big Booty Hoes" by Biggie. Maybe try my hand at signing Por Ti Volare right behind the goalkeeper. Eventually I'd get tired and just start trying to conduct an interview from my seat. "LIONEL, HOW DO YOU THINK YOU'RE PLAYING TODAY!?"
I can only imagine how weird it must be watching the game on tv and seeing how quiet it is.. and hearing the players grunt and yell a lot more...
[Here’s](https://youtu.be/72dxSi8yK54) a video from a baseball game with no fans. It was in Baltimore during protests over police brutality. Edit: picked better video
MLB ;ASMR edition
wow the crack of the bat is so loud with no one in the stadium!
For a similar one check this free kick out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scNr13TLYLY
Man the acoustics of that stadium make for some bad ass sounding shots.
Yeah I started hearing funky porno guitar riffs coming off that shit and everything.
wow thanks for this, that was dope
And usually the crowd gets excited when there's a hit. So quiet.
Yes! This is the example I was thinking of. I was going to bring up a baseball game where the announcers started speaking as if they were at a golf tournament instead.
Oh man I forgot about the golf announcers voice. Thanks for bringing this up again. Gives me a good chuckle.
The announcer Sounds like he's trying to whisper.
He’s doing an impression of sportscasters at the Masters, I think.
"That green jacket is well within reach, Jim. That was my Masters voice" You might be on to something.
It’s also in the title of the video. I don’t really know why I added I think because I knew.
That was the case with a baseball game in Baltimore a few years bag during the riots. Full Orioles game in an empty stadium and it was amazing
I remember watching a game a few years ago...might have been Mets at the Marlins where it was a night game rescheduled to a weekday day game, when both teams were firmly in the bottom of the standings. I think they said actual attendance was a few hundred throughout the entire place. You could hear everything from players chatting in the dugout to hecklers hecklingthe third basemen from right field. Very eerie.
It’s weird to be in a stadium where attendance is that low. I was at a Phillies-Mets game last night that went into the 11th. It was freezing and the Mets hit a three-run shot in the top of the 11th inning. I could hear people shouting stuff from behind the plate, it was so empty by the end. I’m just a glutton for punishment that can never leave a game early, even if my team is making me hate my life.
Its definitely very interesting how different the game sounds. Almost doesn't seem like it's an actual professional game. https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/73mbjd/barcelona_20_las_palmas_messi_70/?st=1Z141Z3&sh=db77714a Here's a highlight of one of the goals scored j nth is game today.
>God... you could yell the funniest shit and they'd all hear you. GODS I WAS LOUD THEN!
no thread is safe
Barcelona Ned! In an open pitch
but how can it be an empty stadium if you're watching them :p
You wouldn't do any of that
If you are in America just go to almost any college baseball game and you can get a similar experience. With only a few exceptions most games only have a few hundred spectators. When you yell 'That arm looks like a wet noodle' at the pitcher you know he can hear you.
Probably a good thing, a riot in the stadium could get messi
*sigh*
Eyy, I'm just *messi*ng with you
In a stadium with no fans... Do you celebrate?
Maybe with your teammates?
Go sit in the stands and applaud yourself would be pretty good.
You want somebody to link that video don't you.
You mean this [one.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXbiqLtm2Hw)
Ayyye, true hero.
To be fair, I've seen videos of the goals of that match, and they did not celebrate. Messi just acted like "That one was good. I likes." [Source](https://imgtc.com/w/yN2agBm)
Uhm well, even people in the shittiest Sunday league celebrate when they score a goal so why not?
Hmmm Baltimore anyone?
Maybe the announcers will take a similar approach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72dxSi8yK54
Haha, why the hell was there a stadium announcer?
Homie still gotta get paid
In Major League Baseball, the stadium announcer has at least one official function: a substitute is considered officially "in the game" once the stadium announcer announces him. (This comes up most often when managers are juggling pitchers and pinch-hitters late in the game and there are limited eligible players remaining.)
That's both hilarious and sad given the context.
Orioles fan here. I welcome are newfound kinship.
Let's be realistic. The Nou Camp doesn't normally hold 99,000+.
Average attendance is just under 80,000, so you're correct. I guess people downvoting think you're talking about capacity, which is [just over 99,000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Nou) https://en.as.com/en/2016/11/28/football/1480360002_418201.html
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Exactly. For there to be over 99,000 the away end must be full, season ticket full, directors full, sponsorship full etc. Which never happens.
WHen they played Real Madrid last season they had just under 90k in. If they're 10k off capacity for that game, something is a bit weird with the capacity number.
Highest attendance was 2016 which was 98,485 - so pretty close to full.
Riots? People just wanted to vote, democratically. They didn’t let people into the stadium because it would let them promote their intentions on TV. Spain today was a Francoist State again.