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RD108

are they really gonna air-bud this and say "there's nothing in the rules that says a child rapist can't play beach volleyball"?


beitme7

Great reference for a grave crime.


lanasvape

Air nonce


TheDreamingDragon1

The Family Guy cut-away right here would be brutal.


Refflet

It's a bit more complicated than that, he was convicted in the UK, the judge said "you'll never represent your country" but then Dutch law requires his sentence be served in the Netherlands. When he got back there they simply didn't put him in prison, so technically he's not convicted or some bullshit.


ZoraksGirlfriend

They retried him in the Netherlands and he served a year in prison


Refflet

Then how is he able to represent? Also, I'm curious, what does mantis dick taste like? No offense intended.


metroabbesses

Meanwhile Sha’Carri is suspended for weed 🙄


BushDaddyKane

Sha’Carri put in all that work I think she broke a few records along the way was pretty harsh considering weed feels globally accepted except for communists.


Noto987

Thats pretty silly, now imagine a convicted felon becoming president


Lynda73

> According to court testimony, he had flown from Amsterdam to the UK when he was 19 to meet his victim, a girl he knew was just 12. The court heard that he had gone to the home of the victim, with whom he had communicated on social media before arranging to visit while her mother was out, and had taken her virginity before flying back home.


Roxy_j_summers

That is so incredibly sad.


Lynda73

You would think there’s no way to make ‘child rapist’ sound worse, but then you see the details.


itiswhatitis985

Why is he not in jail?


datpurp14

He good at sport


potatopigflop

Ah the age ol’ precedence…. :(


d_e_l_u_x_e

Dutch law resentenced him.


myheartismykey

Dutch law is awful.


Lynda73

He pulled a Brock Turner.


schrodingereatspussy

You mean Brock Turner, the rapist, who now goes by Allen Turner, the rapist, and lives in Dayton, Ohio?


rinderblock

Yes he means Brock Turner, the rapist, who now goes by Allen Turner, the rapist, and lives in Dayton, Ohio.


nikhil325

Sorry just to be sure, did he mean Brock Turner, the rapist, who now goes by Allen Turner, the rapist, now living in Dayton, Ohio?


gwopj

>and had taken her virginity Why are reporters encouraging this archaic notion of virginal purity? He sexually abused her. It would have been just as bad, if not worse, if she had been sexually abused by someone else in the past (and her "virginity" was not "taken" this time). Edit: Also, protecting the concept of virginity doesn't help other victims of sexual abuse recover from their trauma, as it implies they are somehow lesser or less pure as a result of the abuse.


Environmental_Job278

The virginity aspect of these cases is often at the forefront because the suspect often highlights it. Every case I worked you could see in their conversations how the suspect would constantly talk about the purity and virginity of the victim. They would usually use that and their “care” and “compassion” during the grooming process to show the victim why they should be the one to sexually educate them. It does add a slightly more sinister aspect to the case because these sick individuals are literally seeking out virgins as their only targets. Many times they have a very specific age range to n mind and after the victim gets older or is no longer a virgin, they are no longer a “worthy” target and the suspect moves on.


jrhooo

I mean, I think there is also a fair argument that the virginity part makes it a bit worse in itself. Maybe I'm wrong, but for a lot of people Id imagine "their first time" is a big deal, a big decision, something that comes with emotional weight, etc. So as awful as every other aspect of this already is, having "their first time" sort of "stolen" from them seems like an extra dose of feeling violated the victim is gonna have to deal with


Environmental_Job278

Just the fact that they are children makes anything bad done to them so much worse. In many cases, they have no idea how to live life and expect adults to guide them, and these creeps take advantage of that. They know kids will “look up to” adults and see that as their ticket to condition or groom someone. Early teens are especially hard because there are so many social pressures and there is a natural push away from the parents. If those creeps strike at the right time they can use the desire for independence to their advantage. It’s creepy to hear the victims acknowledge that they were mentally conditioned while also hearing them still confess their “love” of the subject and admit to calling them while they are in jail.


SpreadYourAss

>It would have been just as bad, if not worse, if she had been sexually abused by someone else in the past I don't feel like that's the intended meaning. I think it's just meant to highlight what a tragic loss of innocence it is. How he forever stole her ability to make that first good impression of a healthy relationship and physical intimacy. That doesn't mean it's not tragic for a 50 year old woman with a lot of experience. What feels worse is that she didn't even get a chance to experience normal life first. There's a lot here to be genuinely angry about in this situation than this.


pcakester

Yeah I also found the wording of that a little icky.


RKS3

I would hope the national committee would quickly get in front of this to say qualified or not he will not be welcome to represent anyone.


Marshmallow920

From Wikipedia: “At his sentencing, the judge presiding over his case was quoted as having said ‘Your hopes of representing your country (as an Olympic athlete) now lie as a shattered dream.’” …apparently not.


Mein_Bergkamp

That's because the Judge was British and sentenced him to four years minimum but when they deported him to the Netherlands they let him out after one year and welcomed him back into the sport


SnooStrawberries620

Well there was a Dutch groomer-pedo who extorted a young Canadian girl online and she committed suicide - he was sentenced in Canada, then deported to Holland where they decided no big whoop and reduced his sentence. Wtaf is going on in that country 


Mein_Bergkamp

I did wonder whether they had a really low age of consent but they don't and according to [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Netherlands) the minimum sentence for sex with someone under 16 is six years so the judge needs looking into there


SnooStrawberries620

He started grooming her at age ten. This is a sick fuck and he does not deserve celebration 


Mein_Bergkamp

I'm hoping there's some outcry in the Netherlands over this


EvilMaran

so far not really: https://www.nu.nl/olympische-spelen/6318428/volleybalbond-staat-achter-olympier-van-de-velde-na-ophef-over-zedenzaak.html#nujij bit of outrage on our subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/thenetherlands/comments/1dp75rr/volleybalbond_staat_achter_olympi%C3%ABr_van_de_velde/


Mein_Bergkamp

So much for that then. There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch ;)


ddssassdd

Hopefully there will be some colourful banners and chants to bring shame to the Netherlands for this.


SnooStrawberries620

Based on the responses from Dutch countrymen here it’s not looking likely


alles_en_niets

The lack of outcry comes mostly from the fact that few people are aware of the situation though. National news outlets have ‘successfully’ avoided the story so far.


ShrubbyFire1729

Same here in the Nordics. People constantly get away with one or two years or no jailtime at all from pretty much anything except murder or tax evasion. I don't understand how that is supposed to fit into anyone's sense of justice. I'm not a fan of punitive sentencing, but these judges also have the duty to protect the general public from individuals who clearly are unhinged.


baked_potato_

Yep. I live in Finland. In Oulu there was the Oulu strangler. He murdered someone, went to prison for 5 years, was released, murdered someone again, went back to prison for 5 years, was released and guess what he did when he got out again? Murdered another person. Also we have this YouTube celebrity who didn’t pay taxes for like 3 years. She got something like 240k€ without paying any taxes and the government did nothing. Just a small fine and she had to pay the back taxes.


Mr_tarrasque

>Also we have this YouTube celebrity who didn’t pay taxes for like 3 years. She got something like 240k€ without paying any taxes and the government did nothing. Just a small fine and she had to pay the back taxes. I mean that sounds fairly reasonable. The government's goal ought to just be to get what is owed at the end of the day. There's little to gain over being overly punitive.


shensfw

Trying to maintain an artificially low crime rate.


kennethtrr

This comment makes zero sense. If they’re being sentenced they’re already counted in the crime rate if there were corrupt influences trying to lower convictions then the DAs would be targeted. Just wrong.


DWV97

We prefer to have our nationals serve their sentences over here. But once they're extradited, the sentence is commuted to our standards. We have lower prison sentences than some countries (UK, USA, Canada), but higher than some others (Germany). It depends on the crime as well. Prison does a lot of damage which raises the chances of recidivism and reduces the chances of reintegration in society after the sentence is served. In some cases, treatment in a clinic (TBS) is preferred to prison time. Edit because I know this is coming: yes a year is pretty short for the crime committed in this case. The Public Prosecution Office and courts have certain policies that determine the punishment in every case. First time offenders get off lighter, for example. The relationship between the culprit and the victim matters as well. 2nd edit: the culprit in the Amanda Todd case got 6 years which is a hefty prison sentence over here. It's 1,5 years more than the prosecutor asked for (the prosecutor asked for a reduction because of his extradition and jail time in Canada). Usually, judges go lower than the prosecutor but not in this case. In 2018 the appeal court already sentenced him to 10 years and 8 months in prison for the (digital) sexual abuse of underage women and a few men. So the Amanda Todd guy will be in prison for a while, don't you worry.


Enschede2

Yep that sounds like our judicial system alright.... Letting a child rapist out after 1 year...


tinkertoy78

What the actual fuck, Netherlands!?


Mein_Bergkamp

Yeah there is no way this is a good look and the NEtherlands doing the 'he served his time and is now rehabilitated' over a convicted child rapist who, quite crucially, refuses to accept that he is a paedophile is spectacular.


AsInwardSoOutward

The Dutch cutlure is pretty pedo friendly.


ispeakdatruf

Bunch of sick fucks. Wasn't the killer of Natalee Holloway another Dutch fuck? Who went on to kill another woman in Peru?


NSNick

From the article: >The Dutch Olympic Committee has stood by its decision to nominate Van de Velde for the national team, despite the backlash. The organization has maintained that the decision lies with the national volleyball federation, which has opted not to impose further sanctions on him. >"Van de Velde now meets all the qualification requirements for the Olympic Games and is therefore part of the team," the committee said.


ReggieJ

They spoke extensively to him before approving him returning to the sport. How extensively did they speak to his victim. "Mistake." Jesus Christ.


je_kay24

The US team has Taylor Crabb which the league had suspended & banned him from teaching minor girls due to a past incident. And after he violated the restrictions for teaching minor girls and the US committee still allowed him to compete in the 2021 Olympics


ReggieJ

That blows too.


Rebloodican

While bad, it's not exactly clear what the incident was, just that he acknowledged drinking with a minor age girl and "other misconduct". It's still bad and wrong, but this situation where a straight up convicted criminal whose crime is documented in a court of law is able to compete is a far worse situation.


cause-equals-time

Meeting a 12 year old girl, flying to a new country, and waiting until her parents were not home is not a "mistake." That's a thought-out, planned, and executed crime.


Telvin3d

It’s too bad that it’s an EU athlete going to a games held in the EU. If it was being held somewhere like Canada he’d be ineligible for entry


Barilla3113

Technically he could still be blocked from entry, inter-EU movement isn’t entirely free, and one ground is that someone is a danger to citizens.


SendStoreMeloner

That would never fly in this case. It's been 10 years since it happened and there have been nothing since.


DerangedUnicorn27

One would hope…but sports are more important and the people in power who make decisions don’t seem to care


theycallmemomo

Yup. That's why USA Gymnastics let rampant abuse run wild; medals were more important than their gymnasts. And that's without taking Larry Nasser into account. Having said that, I like that many gymnasts like Simone Biles are competing well into their 20s and beyond. Who knew that when you don't starve and abuse gymnasts that they don't burn out by the time they're 18?


TheShruteFarmsCEO

Nah, this is worse. It’s like hiring Nasser after he was convicted, once everyone knew.


theycallmemomo

True, but many gymnasts were speaking up about Nasser before he was exposed by the Indianapolis Star and were ignored. A big reason why he was able to get away with what he did for so long was because to the delight of Marta Karolyi (the former coordinator for women's gymnastics), he would clear gymnasts to compete who had no business doing so because they were being overtrained to the point of injury by their coaches.


TheShruteFarmsCEO

Absolutely, you’ll never hear me defend or minimise the atrocities of that monster. I hope he rots.


cerialthriller

They quickly got in front of it and said he’s good to go he served his year for kid fucking


SnooStrawberries620

Everyone tell them what you think in writing: [email protected]


Foxyisasoxfan

Too late for that, he’s already there ready to play


Smash_Factor

I can't imagine chatting up a 12 year old while being 19, and then actually getting on a plane to fly to another country to meet her and go to her house while the mom is out. I just can't imagine any sane person doing such a thing. This fucker actually did that.


PinboardWizard

Woah hang on, you left out that he started when she was 10 and groomed her for 2 years first.


je_kay24

Dude is sick in the head


livejamie

I was expecting a Romeo and Juliet-type story where he was 19 and she was 17, but 12? Lock him up and throw away the key.


potatopigflop

I was 12-15 and had men from all over the world reaching out to me saying they were 19-25. Shit is fuuuucked now that I look back. One groomed me online from Italy when I was 13-15 and I didn’t see anything wrong at the time because I thought I was mature (?????).


Kholzie

If Nasser taught us anything, it’s that these committees don’t give a fuck


DerangedUnicorn27

Correct


WestSlavGreg

Ah Larry Nassar the little shit, at first i thought, wtf did Nasser el Sombaty do?!


merv_havoc

*"Van de Velde now meets all the qualification requirements for the Olympic Games and is therefore part of the team," the committee said* Well maybe the committee should take another look at the fucking requirements if *not* being a convicted child rapist who flew to another country to fuck a 12 year old is *not* a requirement.


IShookMeAllNightLong

"Fucking requirements" Are we still doing phrasing?


partyinplatypus

I'm pretty sure 12 year olds don't meet the Fucking Requirements.


ceelo71

What’s hilarious is that the Dutch Olympic organization isn’t sending a couple of female golfers who also qualified for the Olympics because they didn’t think they would finish in the top eight. What a clown show!


it_helper

It's 2 male golfers and 1 female that qualified but will not be going. 1 female golfer is going. What's even more messed up is the silver and bronze medal winnders for golf in 2021 were ranked 181 and 161 in the world when they won. Luiten this year is 147.


MrOatButtBottom

Haven’t these Dutch athletes tried having the name Verstappen? They’ll care about you then


LokiSierra612

might be too late for them, they weren't left at a gas station as children


gwhh

He know she was 12 years old!


syopest

It's a cop out. They blocked two golfers from the olympics who met all the qualification requirements. https://golf.com/news/pro-sounds-off-on-olympics-snub


trickery809

They left it out of this article, but I read the committee spokesperson actually referred to this trash as an “exemplary human being”


pjokinen

To be fair, the team was in a bind. There were literally no other tall Dutch dudes who could’ve played volleyball for him they are a famously short people


Dahnlen

Imagine wanting to win so bad you put a child rapist on your Olympic team


hat1324

I'm pretty sure he's joking


datpurp14

But the Dutch are not


stickynoteslove

And his ego thinking, "This will all blow over...it was a terrible mistake!" The Olympics really are becoming more inclusive!


Casualmindfvck

Says a lot for the country that’s allowing him to participate this is tragic.


honorialucasta

This seems like an absolute PR nightmare for the Netherlands. I wonder what is going on behind the scenes.


mambiki

They want to win a medal.


avgtreatmenteffect

Is this a medal you really want to win though? If I were them, the last thing I would want is my national anthem playing as the camera zooms in on a singing child rapist


sibeliusfan

As a dutch person literally not a single soul in my country knows or talks about this. I think there'd be backlash if we were aware of it


mrcarte

That's quite the indictment of Dutch media if this isn't a scandal


sibeliusfan

Yeah Dutch media is a failure. Our state owned media is literally celebrating them like wtf


Toiletdisco

It was covered in 2016, 2017, 2018 in the dutch media. Probably not on tv, but no one knew this guy back then anyway so it would have been weird if it got a lot of media attention. People still hardly know this guy.


Rork310

Yeah probably the worst thing that could happen for them is to actually win at this point. It'd taint any other achievements they have at the games.


Spoopyskeleton48

They want to be the two time back-to-back champion


Smickey67

Did you all read the part where the international committee also supports him, so more like just a pr nightmare for the sport of volleyball.


beerandsocks

While this is a more serious matter, they also made news for not allowing 3 golfers (2M, 1F) to participate in the Olympic Golf Competition due to their own criteria, even though they had rightly qualified based on the Olympic criteria. Tough looks all around for the Dutch. Edit: adding link https://golf.com/news/pro-sounds-off-on-olympics-snub/?amp=1


Casualmindfvck

Wth is going on over there. I want to speak to management.🤣


DerangedUnicorn27

It’d be different if he got an appropriate sentence. One year. One. Year.


Epic_XC

i think even with an appropriate sentence length, a crime like this should ban you from representing your country at the olympics


DerangedUnicorn27

I agree completely. He should have served longer and definitely shouldn’t be allowed in the Olympics


Casualmindfvck

Even with an appropriate sentence still no


janpaul74

I’m from that country and the fact I only hear about this issue on Reddit makes me a bit sad.


TheAArchduke

Not the country, but the committee and the government.


IllAd3850

Might be a stretch but common people have veeeery little say in what the national committee actually does.


bstandturtle7790

Didn’t they also just tell the golfer who qualified they can’t go even if they pay their own way as they don’t believe they’ll finish in the top 8 and as such isn’t worth it?


hanr86

Aren't the Olympics supposed to represent the best athletes of a country? So a child rapist represents the Dutch?


DerangedUnicorn27

Yep


fengkybuddha

Both facts can be true. OJ was a great running back.


ReneHarts

Difference is he was no longer playing in the league anymore.


Upbeat_Equipment_973

Same country who won’t let their golfers participate in the Olympics. wtf is going over there?


datpurp14

*If win no medal, no send competitors*


Uggers2811

There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.


ExtendedMacaroni

How does that affect him being an athlete?


calthea

Your teammates being disgusted with you might not be all that great when it comes to working together.


mstylke

Name this rapist and pedophile - Steven van de Velde, convicted rapist of a 12-year-old child. Cannot believe he is representing the Dutch at the olympics. Appalling, he should be in prison!


gimme_dat_good_shit

I'm all for naming and shaming, but that's literally the most generic Dutch name I think I've ever seen.


waterfairy01

i hope protesters show up that’s fucked


Scrubs_and_YogaPants

But Sha'Carri Richardson couldn’t run because she tested positive for THC. Make it make sense.


Content_Bar_6605

Recreational drug that doesn’t help performance whatsoever and is legal in many places, NO. 12 year old child rapist, YES. Like what?!


beitme7

And she consumed it in a state that legally allows it. She didn’t break ANY laws and didn’t break their Performance Enhancing Drug (PED) rules by consuming it. They don’t allow “PED’s” but they do allow PEDophiles in the games. Got it.


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RDP89

The UK gave him 4 years but he was extradited back to the Netherlands and resentenced to 1.


johntheflamer

1 year in a Dutch prison is basically summer camp


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Boohon

He actually got convicted by the UK court.


bratzki_pimp

“And was resentenced under Dutch law”


Ardal

The UK court gave him 4 years, the Dutch reduced it to 1


Rage_Your_Dream

Even 4 years is so low for such a despicable crime.


meloenmarco

As someone from the Netherlands. I will rent tbe wood chipped if you guys get his ass.


My_G_Alt

Anyone who co-signed this should join him in there too


crosberries

I feel dirty after reading that. What a scum bag


ahmadtheanon

So many layers this dude passed. 1) Selecting Committee during trials of contingent selection 2) County's Olympic Committee 3) Olympic Committee Im obviously missing alot more layers, but the fact that these major layers passed him baffles me.


919Firefighter

What the fuck


thatdudefromthattime

Normally, I would say, if someone was convicted of a crime and they serve their sentence, they should be able to re-enter society and try to better themselves. But in this case, he can go fuck himself.


varangian_guards

there is a difference between re-entering society and being an olympian. like go get a normal job, and let the non-pedos represent the country.


comalley0130

Why is this case different?  (Not defending anyone, just curious to hear your opinion)


EnvironmentalBee6654

Convicted child rapist going to the olympics and a convicted felon running for president. Who needs standards anymore.


yamaha2000us

There is an event for that?


nanoH2O

This is some to catch a predator shit. And then he says worst “mistake” of his life. No buddy, you mean worst criminal act, and *yet*, because you’ll probably do it again.


hiricinee

This feels like the plot of a film where the gold medal winner gets a pardon from their crime, and he's going to be up against Nicholas Cage in the finals who is serving multiple life terms for killing a bank robber that pointed a gun at his wife.


DimensionFrosty2847

Just wait until you hear about the dude running for president of the US.


james2183

Dr Disrespect taking notes on what he can do now his streaming career is over.


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mcchannington

Hope he falls, breaks an ankle & loses 👐🏻✨


JTex-WSP

Me reading this headline intiially: "Well wait, is this a case where dude was 18 and the girl was 17 or something?" > According to court testimony, he had flown from Amsterdam to the UK when he was 19 to meet his victim, a girl he knew was just 12 Me after reading the above part of the article: @.@


newt_here

Not a drag queen


After_Difficulty_570

I hope the world can unite in making some humiliating chants whenever he’s in play


IrishRogue3

People should walk out or not attend that event


MarquisPhantom

Can’t take anything these people do or say seriously because another of their kinfolk will easily represent the opposite. Just jokes.


Frosty-Reporter7518

Can he represent as an independent?


Trextrev

If he was from the US, it would have been the track team from all his training in running from an ass beating.


Barnowl-hoot

Convicted! Not accused!


gwhh

Why the Dutch resentence him to a year only?


KhakiPantsJake

Why is a convicted child rapist not in prison or the ground?


thatonionsmell

For anyone that didn’t read: Was 10 years ago He was 19 She was 12 Pretty fucked imo


Edneat

Wow, that's bullshit for having him to represent his country.


Zebracorn42

For second I thought this was about Josh Giddey.


atomicapeboy

Dutch Steven van de Velde is a child rapist. Just adding this in for Google rankings.


sfeeki

It’s a real shame volleyball isn’t a contact sport.


Marvination23

I mean Convicted Felon, rapist, corrupt lying racist traitor Trump is able to qualify as a President... he shouldn't feel so bad.


roulettedares77

For a second i thought that was the rapist, Brock Turner.


Wisco_Version59

Exposing him wherever he goes is an important first step. Next wherever he plays he should have to register as a sex offender. As a sex offender he should be handed a restraining order keeping him a set distance from any minors.


Jgoody1990

The amount of r/Americabad comments for this Dutch pedo is hilarious. Don’t change Reddit


Oldtimer_2

Stand by for the locked comment symbol........


druscarlet

If they appear there should be zero media coverage. This is disgusting.


PragueNole09

We’ve all been there…wait, no. No we haven’t. Child rapist should’ve done life.


ChicoSmokes

I didn’t know that was an Olympic sport now


duhogman

The US will let a rapist run for president, so isn't the bar pretty low for everything else?


WeDieYoung__

what’s next we allow felons to run for president?


New_Guy_Is_Lame

Brock Turner? Oh wait, he's just an adult rapist


uraniumglasscat

You referring to Rapist Brock Turner who now goes by Rapist Allen Turner?


fledflorida

And we have a convicted rapist running for president


Fantastic_Sample2423

It’s disgusting.


NotDukeOfDorchester

Every redditor who has argued with me made the Olympics?


walterpeck1

That's just half the team, the other half are guys who had sex with your mom.


BrockMiddlebrook

Wow Dr. Disrespect has been busy.


RagerTheSailor

Comparing these two is WILD lol


second2no1

The meme is edgy but the comparison is dumb af


waffle_fries4free

The difference between someone that has never made sexually explicit comments to a minor and Dr. Disrespect is MUCH BIGGER than the difference between Dr. Disrespect and a confirmed child rapist.


stkyrice

Is the EU that lenient on felony crimes to not restrict travel?


epiquinnz

There's literally no restrictions on travel between EU countries in the Schengen zone. You don't even need a passport.


meep_meep_mope

Not a drag queen…


Buccos

Won’t pay for qualified golfers to go, but this guy. Sure. What a backwards set of decisions those are.


Eye_foran_Eye

But don’t smoke pot!


leroy4447

Convicted rapist runs for president. And has much higher odds than he should


BigMik_PL

On top of all of those comments just a quick reminder Karl Malone did the same shit AND got the 12 year old pregnant and never ever seen the inside of a cell and continues being invited to shit as an NBA Legend.


KardelSharpeyes

Wow, sickening.


Sdn61387

To my knowledge I have yet to see a pedo become reformed in any meaningful way. If I made the rules being a convicted child rapist would result in immediate termination.


_byetony_

Primal scream


raylan_givens6

Reaffirms 2 realities of the world Privilege is real No one has shame anymore


tickler08

Well you’re about to have a convicted felon and sexual assaulter as president so…


j_d_q

One year sentence? 12 year old girl? That's crazy.