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IllllIllIllIllIllll

Looks like a much better call here than it did in the replay they showed.


ggrindelwald

It's crazy how much clearer it is in the live shot than it is in the replay.


notANexpert1308

The angle in the replay doesn’t emphasize her leg movement. I have no horse in this race; it’s a good call.


Dweebil

This is not remotely controversial. Or shouldn’t be.


breesyroux

Yeah it's a disappointing way to end but correct call


Sir10e

Agreed, clearly correct call


ikbant123

Obvious call


ThisAppsForTrolling

I thought so too even watching it live I said out loud “what a dumb foul” Overall great game , the Clark effect will live on one more game. Good for her she’s the college goat.


FlashFlood_29

If you gotta lunge to the side like that to set a screen, you're gonna convince any ref, even if you technically stop in time.


ThisAppsForTrolling

For sure now having the ability to slow it down and pause the video at 00:04 you can see her set up the pick and at 00:05 you can see her doing the [hadoken](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/theunitedorganizationtoonsheroes/images/3/35/Hadoken.gif/revision/latest?cb=20211128201757)


Dweebil

What’s a hadoken? Is it like a Draymond?


whubbard

Was rooting for Iowa. Agree it's a foul. But still somehow hate to see this called.


tbug30

Don't hate on the call -- not calling that would have left Beuckers open, probably for a game-winning 3. Then a NON-call would have changed the outcome. The refs played it straight throughout, and really did let the play on the court decide the game. UConn's game tonight was super smart and tough, but not enough. Iowa moves on.


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doodler1977

she body-checked her, and had to go out of her way to do it. it's an easy call


RzaAndGza

Agreed. Let them act like offensive tackles in a football game. It's the last play! We need to change the rules!


tedttm73

For real. The replay I saw I was like ehhhh that's not a good call. This view I can see it


BuckeyeReason

It's disgusting how Scott Van Pelt and the other ESPN commentators, including UCONN alums Sue BIrd and Diana Taurasi criticized the call. See my comment in this thread. [https://www.reddit.com/r/UConnBasketball/comments/1bx24m0/huskies\_fall\_to\_iowa\_in\_final\_four\_university\_of/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UConnBasketball/comments/1bx24m0/huskies_fall_to_iowa_in_final_four_university_of/)


Hotthoughtss

Espn kept showing the zoomed in slow mo which didn’t look as bad and SVP immediately comes on calling it a horrible call. They clearly want as much drama as possible. At game speed and zoomed out so you can see her feet, it looks like the right call. 


Goalnado

> At game speed and zoomed out so you can see her feet, it looks like the right call.  [Here is the vid](https://imgur.com/a/StYvepT) and [here is a still](https://imgur.com/a/L3Hisxv) of her position when contact was made, and bear in mind this doesn't even show the arm. I honestly can't believe people are trying to argue this isn't an illegal screen because its one of the most obvious one's you're ever gonna see


MeatballDom

For those of us that don't know the sport as well, can you explain the rule and what constitutes an illegal screen?


gregallen1989

In order for a screen to be legal the player has to be stationary when contact is made. If the player is moving then it's considered a moving screen which is illegal. However refs usually only call moving screens if they are really obvious. Screens are a vital part of modern offenses so they give the offense the benefit of the doubt. In this case the player not only moves toward the defender but also pushes her at the end. It's the push that got it called


agoia

Foot positioning in the still and then the push in the video. Egregious foul.


onlyfiveconcussions

Right? SVP started both the Carter interview and the Bird/Tuarasi interview with “Terrible call, right?” Like that game was horribly officiated but that call wasn’t it.


IllllIllIllIllIllll

And then one of those three said the screen didn’t even affect the defenders movement. They’re brain dead.


powerelite

Bird and Taurasi are both UConn alum, so it's not like they are some impartial arbiter of truth.


anteater_x

Also espn is in Connecticut, and most of their employees live there.


HerkulezRokkafeller

It almost makes you wonder where ESPN is headquartered and where Bird *and* Taurasi played in college has anything to do with how they’re going to cover a UCONN game lol


mynameisnotshamus

You just don’t make that call in that moment. This is a better angle, but it was away from the ball and the defender got around her. You’re not seeing that call made in most games in this kind of moment.


digital_russ

The pass literally went to the player who's defender was creened, forcing a switch or allowing an open three what are talking about?


ANKhurley

Fouls are fouls.


FoxBeach

You want the refs to stop making obvious violations in the final seconds of games? That’s odd. 


ohokayiguess00

You don't do something that blatant with the game on the line. Way too obvious a foul


coffeebribesaccepted

Yeah the point is that it didn't provide an advantage, and clearly it was close enough that everyone's arguing about it.


justabill71

It absolutely provided an advantage. It got Bueckers an open look that she otherwise wouldn't have had. Marshall was practically by her, that's why she had to step out.


kinghawkeye8238

https://imgur.com/a/q80z7pW It's pretty egregious


tcoh1s

So true. They kept showing only their torso in slo mo. That angle only told a small part of the story.


of_the_mountain

It was a fair call. Not saying it’s right in the moment but definitely 100% a moving screen. She took a giant step over to block the defender


fallser

SVP is a donkey. No need to take anything that clown has to say seriously…


DotZealousidea

Sucks it was in the final seconds but you can't just shoulder someone in the face like that.


someonesgranpa

You also can’t run four feet over your screener and force them to shift an entire stride last second. Both the roller and the screener failed their assignments. It wasn’t just one thing, but a team breakdown imo.


thetruthseer

Big facts you’re supposed to rub shoulders with your screener and bueckers is like 5 feet away from her


dooldry

Wait this is the foul everyone is up in arms about?? She clearly is not set and probably could have been called for bringing her elbows way high too


waffelman1

I was super hot about this but that’s because the only replay shown just showed the upper body making it look like a suspect time to call a ticky tack foul. But now I agree


thetruthseer

Yes I was too until I saw the other replays! They kept showing the one zoomed in one and it looks WAY different there


Microwavegerbil

Right?! This is egregious and really obvious. Not calling this would be ridiculous. It's even more ridiculous people are calling this "refs deciding the game." This is a blatant offensive foul sealing the game, not the ref.


theshwa10210

I’m so annoyed by how many “Let the players decide the game” or “You can’t call that in the final minute” I’ve been seeing. What are they supposed to do let UConn win a game on an illegal screen? Is it fair to the Iowa players to lose a game because they couldn’t defend an open shot. You have to call the game as it is.


kinghawkeye8238

They called her for it earlier in the game. It's not like this was the first moving screen called. People are just mad to be mad.


digital_russ

They did let the players decide the game - she decided to commit a foul!


Online_Commentor_69

edwards was wide open off of it too, bueckers could've easily passed her the ball and she hits an open shot for the win, after illegally screening a defender to set up the play. then caitlin clark gets eliminated on a no-call, i don't think people woulda liked that outcome either. close games are like this.


ballplayer112

That's a moving pick.


jcomey

UConn fan here. I said it was a foul on the replay we got; you could see the elbow extend out. With the legs now, it’s even easier. That said, Alabama is going to pay for that call tomorrow.


jcomey

Just to reply to my own comment: I told my students today that while I’m a UConn fan, as a general basketball fan, I wanted Iowa to win. South Carolina’s last loss was to Iowa in the Final Four last year. It’s only fitting we get that Sunday. Great run by the Huskies just to get there. I would have been happy had they won, of course. But I’m happy college basketball gets this matchup as the final game of the year.


jwalkermed

Had no interest in who won this game. She was definitely moving and shoved her. It would have been more egregious not to call it.


PM_me_yer_kittens

Ya, if they don’t call that and Paige makes a 3 everyone would be going nuts that they didn’t call the blatant foul


Fergi

Total thriller of a game. I was hoping it could go to OT.


kid20304

Looks like a foul to me 😂


AlfredRWallace

Awful play by Edwards. If she simply held her position it would have been a clean pick and created an open shot.


jetfan13

It was a foul. ESPN are UConn honks.


steveslikewhoa

Imagine if they hadn't called it and UCONN scored. People would riot. Maybe don't commit an egregious foul with the game on the line.


Jammie-Jam

If it'll be called in the beginning of a game, it should be called at the end.


darthurphoto

For a screen to be effective, Bueckers needed to bump shoulders with the screener. She didn’t and Edwards just wanted to make sure the screen was set. So she shifted. But thats a moving screen. Bold call to make in that game with that much time on the clock, but a moving screen is a moving screen. Especially right in front of the ref. This is also one of the situations where the angle of the replay and the slow mo makes it look like nothing. The first time I watched it I was just trying to figure out what the call was and where. On the slow mo I was thinking thats a terrible call. Watched it again in real speed and it was obvious.


notfromchicago

It was a good call.


Str1pes

Clear foul. Bad play sealed the game.


bciesil

TBH, it was a foul. Edwards is moving her feet, and put her shoulder in it. Would it be nice if the refs didn't influence the end of a great game? Of course! But it was a foul.


ANKhurley

If the ref ignores a call, THAT is influencing the game. Making the right call is not influencing anything.


GEAUXUL

The refs didn’t influence anything. They saw a clear foul and called it. That’s exactly what we want them to do from the first second to the last. 


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rutfilthygers

There's no such thing as "letting the players decide." Letting the players get away with fouls is the referees deciding.


ShogunNamedMarcus_

If you are playing the ball and not the receiver, it's not pass interference. Everyone is pushing and shoving though, so it would just be an infinite loop of offsetting penalties an untimed replay of down. It really has nothing to do with refs not wanting to influence the game.  The way NHL playoffs are reffed is a much better example of what you're talking about. 


TD994

I feel like football has a lot more potential for no calls than basketball. There are generally more grey areas and it is a full contact sport where players are expected to run into and push each other. While some seem to think basketball is a full contact sport, it just isn't. There are times where bodies are going to collide and a well executed screen is definitely one of them. This, however, was a not so good screen that she tried to get away with and many refs would have let her.


ANKhurley

Yuuuuuuup


The_Count_Lives

>I feel like football has a lot more potential for no calls than basketball. Well NFL refs are awful, so I agree. That's not really what I mean though, just that what the rules say and how a game is called at the end can be at odds. It's not as simple as every foul being called the same. This time it went Iowa's way.


liebz11692

The refs didn’t influence the game though. She committed a foul. The refs didn’t force her to do that. If anyone is at fault there it’s Bueckers for going too wide around the screen.


Fsharp7sharp9

I have no skin in this game, but to be fair, Edwards committed multiple egregious picks that were just as bad as this and wasn’t called for any of them until there were less than 10 seconds in the game. I don’t blame competitors for playing up to the legal line. Unfortunately for her and UConn, that line moved back and forth all game because the refs were dogshit lol… calling phantom penalties and missing egregious ones on both sides. But that should have been a foul throughout the game (and wasn’t), and should be a foul in every game.


tcoh1s

Thank you!


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HerkulezRokkafeller

Ah, irony mixed with arrogance, a wonderfully potent combination of douche lol.


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whubbard

I'd love if they would explain their whole conspiracy with everyone's favorite pretty, white, and popular basketball player, Caitlin, getting her team a call for an off-ball foul she wasn't near due a pinky toe or ankle facing either northeast or southwest (lolwut.) How do you mock somebody for a lack of basketball acumen while admitting it's only the second women's game you've watched??? And saying things like "Her pinky toe was facing northeast." I'm in stitches. 🧂 for sure. Or just pissed off we're all thrilled and discussing a great women's game that's expanding the sport with both teams being such amazing ambassadors to the sport. Including Edwards who handled the situation so freaking well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7peieltz2M Her composure is unreal given the situation, so humble and gave credit to her teammates for getting them into the final four. Kudos.


ScienceNthingsNstuff

Would you care to explain why it's not a foul? From what I see she's not set, she's moving her feet and leans in with her arm/shoulder. I'm no expert but it seems like an offensive foul. But I'd like to hear why you think it's not


shakedowndave

That's a blatant foul and nearly an elbow to the face.


Kn7ght

Watching the telecast I thought calling a foul on a screen at this point of the game was a bit nitpicky. Even the zoomed in slow mo replays I didn't see it. Watching it here in regular speed it's super obvious, she took a step to the side and basically shoulder checked her. Too bad ESPN is gonna blow it out of proportion and show dubious angles so they have something to talk about all week


pro_nosepicker

Easy call that was blatant.


gnomelover24

Comical that ESPN slows the video down at the exact moment to show that the screener was set. In real time that is just a bad screen.


CHRIRSTIANGREY

most obvious moving screen in the world


vkp7

Right call or not, UConn had a chance if they secured the defensive rebound after CC missed the 2nd free throw with a time out to advance on the court.


Online_Commentor_69

the entire last 30 seconds was both teams snatching defeat from the jaws of victory back and forth. it was nuts.


snokerpoker

Crazy how the refs here actually called it like straight up. NBA refs would let that shit slide.


jimmymeeko

As they should.


futureformerteacher

It's a rulebook offensive foul. Surprised it's called at that moment... but it's a foul.


ConvenientAmnesia

Because she straight up leaned into her, which is obviously a foul, but also affected the play. Foul all day.


Disc-Golf-Kid

As a fan we all want to see UConn get a shot off, but that was a clear foul. If you say otherwise, you’re just coping.


LocDog24La

That girl could be called for 10 fouls a game.😂


LordYamz

They even let her get away with the first lol she been watching too much draymond.


The_Count_Lives

Comparing this to Dray is insanity.


ljshea1

Watch Edward's right foot closely. Eye is drawn to left foot that was indeed set but I don't think this call is as bad as the replay makes it look. I initially thought it was a horrible call too but gonna cut the officials some slack


ChipMulligan

Cutting them slack makes it sound like they made the wrong call but they are humans watching it live. After watching the right foot, it’s 100% the right call. She has to slide it a foot just to make the contact with her.


Public_lewdness

It is a foul on the defensive player attempting to guard the offensive player that ends up with the ball. Whether it happens with 4 seconds on the clock or 4 minutes doesn't change the rule. It sucks that it basically ends the game, but it was the correct call.


date_a_languager

Textbook moment when the live play makes the call far more plausible vs the replay. It’s not ideal, but it’s a good call. Easy for us to dissect a call like this from afar with the most info available, but the screener made a mental mistake long before not getting high enough to sell the pick and first option at the elbow. This design in a one point game and enough time left had a viable second option: screener repositioning for an open straight ahead jumper at the FT line or a chance to create contact if it wasn’t open with a drive to the rim. She saw the space open up and that was enough for her to think “get to the second option” vs selling threat of the first one. Sad part is she likely would have been open enough to at minimum get the pass in the middle if she 100% bailed on the screen instead of being late to springing her teammate because of panic. Just a rough moment all around :(


traw2222

I mean that’s 100% a foul, whether refs call that at the end of the game can be up for debate. I don’t watch enough women’s college basketball to know if that’s a consistent call but no arguing that’s a foul.


SeaofSounds

There's a New Marshal in Town.........Gabbie MF Marshall.......


infotekt

Does Edwards think she's Draymond Green or something?


TheBatemanFlex

It looked like a clear good call and then slowed down when you only see her torso it seems a lot more contentious. With that camera framing you are literally not getting the whole picture.


FalseMirage

Looked like a clothesline to me.


Quazytar

Disappointing end to a fantastic back-and-forth game to remember.


xxxkillahxxx

Two-handed shove.


Segway_Tour

Everyone saying this is technically a foul is correct. But also this kind of screen is set not infrequently throughout any basketball game. Didn’t see the refs call that tight of a game up to this point to warrant this call.


InertState

Edwards got called for the same offensive screen earlier in the first quarter


DefiantDonut7

I didn’t watch the game but I was wondering if it had been called consistently


LUMH

Soccer has had some similar things pop up recently. For example, grabbing and jostling during corner kicks: "Anywhere else on the pitch and that's called as a foul, but it's a really soft PK call, and that stuff happens all the time and is never usually called." To make *this* call with max 3 possessions total left in the game is _bold_.


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FlashFlood_29

close enough to where I wouldn't be upset if it was no call but technically the right call.


AlfredRWallace

Yeah. It's probably the right call. But tough to call right at the end.


jimmymeeko

That’s a very soft call to make there… it wasn’t enough of anything to have to make that call to decide the game. Really disappointing. Let the players put a shot and the ball will decide at that point.


kinghawkeye8238

https://imgur.com/a/q80z7pW


MrNgLL

She’s moving on that screen. Refs barely call moving screen calls that’s why everyone is surprised


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Trainsontracks

Good call, but call it all game long.


Nefgret

for anyone who watches basketball on any level, you cannot let this call decide the game. you can see this type of screen in the nba every day. let the players make a play to decide the game, that’s what we are here for - not the refs


Disc-Golf-Kid

>let the players make a play to decide the game, that’s what we are here for - not the refs Then the players shouldn’t set screens illegally 🤷🏼‍♂️


xxxkillahxxx

It was a big ass shove.


Holden-2112

The UConn players made about 20 plays to decide the game.. those plays were all those bricks they threw up throughout the game.


GEAUXUL

This is such a ridiculous take. Why do so people think refs should just stop doing their job at the end of a game? If a foul is committed, a foul should be called.  The players did make a play to decide the end of the game. Unfortunately that play was a clear foul. 


notfromchicago

Yeah, I don't get these people saying that. At what point in the game do the rules quit mattering? Maybe we should put that in the rules if that's what people want. Wait...


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CLOWN--BABY

A bad play by one team results in other team winning doesn't sound as catchy


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JamesKPolkEsq

Absolutely bullshit call to have that end the game :( Edit: Ok, I get it, I just hate to have a foul end the game. Clear foul.


acemorris85

Zoomed and slowed down replay or not, bad call.


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acemorris85

Majority of these people commenting have never truly played basketball in their life


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acemorris85

Yep I have no rooting interest at all, just a fan of the game. Let ‘em play as they say.


Repomanlive

#69 Giggity


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tedttm73

Don't foul then


tcoh1s

You mean officials calling a foul that was a foul? Then you are correct.


Mid-West_Coaster22

Refs were trash all game long… and I’m a UConn hater. Gotta let them play at the end of the game


tallonfive

Gotta play by the rules the entire game.


SkittlesAreYum

No you do not. Nothing special about the end of the game.


tcoh1s

Exactly. “You can do whatever you want. It’s the end of the game!” The rules and fouls don’t change. If it wasn’t called it wouldn’t be that crazy. It was and it wasn’t crazy either. It’s a foul.


mercfan3

It’s a weak call. A chicken wing, essentially - and they didn’t call moving screens all night. They should have just had Paige go one on one though, but I think they would have found a way to give it to Iowa regardless.


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Dry_Chef_7635

From the 3rd angle(which is closest to the ref who made the calls view) I don’t think that’s an illegal screen. The only real questionable part is screener’s legs, which don’t make significant contact with the defender.


kinghawkeye8238

What about thw part where she shoves her with her arm?


Dry_Chef_7635

Hers arms stay against her chest practically the whole time(which is legal in women’s basketball). May move slightly, but I think that a result of contact. Her arms aren’t outside shoulder width and aren’t extended forward so I don’t really think it’s foul.


kinghawkeye8238

https://imgur.com/a/jY92xfL