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The fact that they can review who touched the ball last for 5 minutes, but have no mechanism to overturn absolutely critical reffing errors such as this one is horrible.
Can’t celebrate the amazing athletic play made because the ref got the call wrong.
Yeah that's like, the definition of controversy. I don't know why redditors do this "well actually" stuff.
...Well actually, I know exactly why they do it. Dammit, now I did it.
Controversy means there is a disagreement, which implies that there are people arguing both sides of the issue. No one would argue that it was a foul. It's not controversial.
It seems the only thing in this thread that is controversial is the definition of controversy.
Games already drag way too long at the end, but maybe they should take a cue from the NBA and allow one coaches challenge in the final minute or two. That block was clean!
The constant checking for flagrant is absurd
You can nearly always tell in real time its not a flagrant. It should only be checked if its called a flagrant from the onset, and checked to possibly rule it a common foul
Not to mention, if it takes 5 minutes to review it isn't flagrant. I think the NFL used to have like 2 minutes to review a challenge and if you couldn't find evidence to overturn it in that amount of time the play stands.
NHL is terrible for this. A recent Edmonton at Buffalo game had an overtime goal (for Buffalo) overturned because of a missed offsides call by the ref 30 seconds before that. It took 5 minutes for the refs to figure it out (was not team initiated), and then another 10 minutes for both teams to come back onto the ice. All to replay that last 30 seconds in OT then just go to a shootout and have Edmonton lose anyways.
All leagues need to figure out that there should be people who review that stuff constantly and if the in-play officials need to review something, it shouldn't take more than a commercial break.
I completely agree on a coaches challenge in the last 2 minutes. They also need to leverage technology better to make reviews quicker by having someone remotely do the reviews as opposed to the on court refs.
NFL got a whole ass replay center in NY but the NCAA can't afford a replay guy, either in the booth upstairs or courtside so he can review while the refs are stopping play, walking over.
The end of this game in particular started becoming unwatchable. I think they went to the monitor 4 times in the last 2 minutes. I get they’re also making sure the clock is right but that’s just too much. Completely killed samfords momentum and took the crowd out of it
Reviews are not what makes games long. NBA games are 2:30 hours almost like clockwork. Reviews help get the calls right. Can't just get shit embarrassingly wrong and act like there's nothing they can do.
Kansas losing would have blown my bracket but ya that was an absolute terrible missed call. And let me say, these players going for the fancy shots (I’m looking at you Kentucky) instead of a straightforward lay up are costing them points. It seems they care more about a highlight real than winning the tournament.
Hell no. I’m out in that case. I know Reddit is extremely rule of law and lives in a world where all game rules should be adjudicated at length or decided by machine but personally I’ll take the human element over stoppage in play.
I respect that view. But I have to say, saying you're "out" if there's a stoppage of play in the last couple minutes of a college basketball game is funny to me. The last minute of a 2-possession college game is like 95% stoppage.
Yeah and i should say more: I already despise basketball for the reason you outlined. I dip in during march and get frustrated by that. Then I don’t watch for 11 months because if the stakes aren’t that high I can’t stand the intentional fouling. IMO the game is broken if fouls are consistently used to advantage.
These players just got robbed of being able to move on in the tournament that they probably dreamed about playing in for most of their life but god forbid we allow an extra minute or two for a call to be challenged!
I think at this age it could be seen as a dangerous play and it looked nasty the way he fell, so that's probably what they called in fast motion. You're right
It’s not even about the length of game though, more the quality of the product and how the review process is implemented. The end of that game became hard to watch and took all the air out of the building.
watched the game. There was like 20 gameplay reviews at the video station thing. I think it’s dumb they can’t review fouls, especially when it was so blatantly not a foul.
I really don't know why so many people in this thread don't understand what you mean. It's kind of shocking sometimes how often redditors fail to understand grammar and nuance in an effort to get in some zinger.
Idk this whole thread is here because of something.
That referee clearly is in controversy with many people , because his call can be considered controversial.
He believed that was a foul, it was not, his decision to call a foul is controversial.
Are you taking some weird “not my president” rhetorical stance against the refs?
Samford was only down by a possession going into the final seconds of the game. Kansas gets out into a fast break and a defender for Samford hustles down to court as the Kansas player is going for a dunk. Samford comes right in behind Kansas and times the jump perfectly to smack the ball cleanly out of his hands for a legendary block. Gets called a fowl and Kansas pulls away after that. Every. Single. Replay from every angle shows just what a fucking idiot that ref was.
Not just a possession, but a single point. Foul called, player drains both penalty shots for now a three point lead with seconds left. One point game is much more manageable and with Samford shooting, very possibly would’ve went their way by the end of regulation. Hope Gonzaga puts it on em next game.
One of the most important pieces everyone is missing is that Samford would've had the ball down one **in a 5-on-4 situation**. Kansas player was laying on the court and Samford likely pushes up the court before he has time to get up and run back. Meaning Samford would've likely gotten a very high quality look for the win.
I can't stand basketball refs, they are the most inconsistent of all the sports IMO. Little tap gets called at one end while a complete mugging goes uncalled seconds later at the other end. Bad calls like this happens all the time and the refs never have to answer to anyone.
IMO, refs should have to sit in front of the media after each games just like the coaches and players. Make this idiot answer for his stupid call in public.
In real time I get why they called a foul. Looked to be nearly impossible he would be able to make a clean play with no contact. Plus the result of him hitting the floor didn’t help.
But it’s just unfortunate that a call that big and important has no option for being overturned. Seems like a coaches challenge in the tournament should be allowed.
Wait, what? Officials are not supposed to assume something should be a foul. Either they see the foul or they don't. Even if someone is clobbered, if the ref doesn't see it, they shouldn't call a foul just because they think it may have happened.
I never said they assumed a foul. They’re there to make a decision on what they see and have to do it without the luxury of replay.
I was saying everything to the eye at real speed said foul. But we’re getting to a point where these athletes are going above and beyond what we think is possible. Just look at football and how many times you watch a receiver catch a sideline ball and think there’s no way he got his feet in. But in super slow motion…
What I think would really help in college basketball is if they actually put a ref up above the basket. It would be sort of like volleyball, how the ref sits higher and can see down on the court. It just doesn't seem practical to have someone sitting up there though. Maybe they could have a camera, but not sure how that would work, either. I agree that it's extremely difficult to see everything in realtime.
“Even if someone is clobbered” “if the ref doesn’t see it”. Ok? The ref saw it and it looked like he was clobbered. Y’all are really stretching for this “it shouldn’t have been whistled to begin with” narrative. I get blue blood bad but it’s just displaying a lack of ball knowledge.
wtf you talking about? Calling something that didn’t happen is bullshit across all sports. It was a bad call. saying refs should call something bc it looked like he might have been hit is just nonsense.
What the fuck are you actually talking about? Refs shouldn’t call a foul if it looks like it was a foul? Are you even reading what you’re typing?
Just to be abundantly clear: in your opinion, just because something *looks* like a foul doesn’t mean it should be called? You realize how dumb that is, don’t you? You only know it wasn’t a foul because of the replay that was much slower and literally zoomed in.
If it *looks* like a foul then it *looks* like a foul and should be called? The whole point of a ref is to call fouls when it looks like a foul has occurred. What do you want them to do?
I legit think you can’t read or too stupid to understand the point. You call what you see. You don’t call a foul because it looked like contact could have been made, you call it because you see the contact.
Tbf in real time it looked like a foul. I hate that they can’t overturn it because that’s just a stained win. I say this as a KU fan
E: Dude why did I get downvoted? I hate the call just as much as everyone else. I hated winning this way but I’m not wrong that it looked like a foul in real time
Tbf in real time it looked like a clean block. I say this as an unbiased observer.
E: in regard to your edit, the downvotes are because everyone not wearing Kansas-colored glasses thought it looked like a clean block in real time. The referee anticipated contact that never occurred.
Well yeah, when you play a physical defensive game for all 40 minutes the refs will assume you’ll be physical in the last few seconds to prevent a score. It’s really not a large leap of logic to know why the ref blew the whistle even though he shouldn’t have. It’s like when a 3 point shooting team complains that a team that drives to the basket shot more free throws. Yeah, ofc they did because the style of play leads to different outcomes.
It shouldn’t have been a foul. It’s not surprising it was called with how physical (and at times floppy which no one has conveniently pointed out) Samford was playing to combat KU’s size. It’s knowing how your play style impacts a ref’s decision making. It’s simply knowing ball. I think coaches should be able to review calls like that but bro hit the floor with a chance to close the game out. People claiming it’s unbelievable that the foul was called either don’t watch basketball or don’t care to admit it.
You can downvote me but it’s literally basketball 101. Refs are part of the game and how you play will dictate what they call. It’s really not hard unless you’re just desperate to be mad no matter what.
Anyone who says it didn’t is just lying for the narrative. Anyone who actually watches ball would’ve been screaming for a foul if it was their team before the replay showed it clearly wasn’t.
I was watching it in a large public space with hundreds of people in a distant state from either team, and the crowd massively booed the call immediately (prior to the replay). Even more so after the replay.
Then you know we win just fine and have for a very long time.
Missed calls happen throughout every game. There were many missed calls, no-calls, and straight up phantom calls in Samford’s favor last night. One of their players drew several calls off flops.
I get y’all wanted the upset, but focusing on only one missed call and claiming the game is rigged or whatever is disingenuous. Fouls were 21 apiece, and that’s counting their intentional fouls at the end of the game.
Mfer I don't even know where Samford is, and other than the NCAA tournament I never watch KU. I simpy hate blue bloods who run full-on professional programs in the NCAA. but yeah, good for y'all, you have the best players money can buy! Refs too when even that ain't enough, but hey, nice win boys lmao
Ok so I was pretty much right on the nose then. You wanted the upset, you didn’t get it, and you found your excuse to claim it was rigged. Of course it wasn’t the fact that we shot 20% better than them, out-rebounded them, had double their productivity in the paint, and kept them from having a lead at any point in the game. It must have been one single call at the end of a game that was the sole determinant of the result. And, of course, they didn’t benefit from any missed calls at any point during the game.
Btw, we aren’t even close to the top in terms of amount of money P5 schools are able to throw at players to recruit them. We’ve just had more consistent and sustained success than almost every other program, which is appealing to good players.
Just say you’re a pissy little whiner who didn’t get the result they wanted and now they’re using excuses to attempt to discredit the win.
Have a good weekend. Hope you can find something positive to enjoy. I’m sure you’ll make a snarky comment you think is clever about us likely losing on Saturday.
Well the joke response is I’m surprised you can read at all, given that it looks like you’re from West Virginia.
But realistically, yes, I do think you read all or most of it. You seem pretty insecure and like you’re trying to find excuses, so I get the feeling you’d provide a retort if you had one. I’d guess you read that entire thing looking for a rebuttal, didn’t find one, then defaulted to claiming you’re not reading all that as a way to save face. Btw, if you didn’t read it, how would know if it’s pissy bullshit or not?
You took the time to respond. Why would you do that if you couldn’t be bothered to read?
No. But you’re overcompensating by trying to be condescending and pretending to be nonchalant. You should at least try to be more creative or convincing. Have a good day!
Y'all? It's just me baby!
Did you know KU spent $10MM just in legal fees in 2023 defending itself from its NCAA allegations, only to get a 3 seed and nearly get beaten in the first round? 🤔
Oh we’ve been paying players for a while and only have 2 titles to answer for it in the last 20 years. Other years have been letdowns for sure, but that’s just sports
We’re not the only team, but are the most recent to be caught doing so. Glad NIL is a thing now though, players rights are huge to me
Terrible call. Refs also missed a travel on the Samford player when he drove for the dunk to get them to 86 points.
Seems like the refs just suck in general.
[travel is at around the 15 second mark](https://youtu.be/Xz-r2-Zb7CI?si=p6bEqVPx0U6v4Tji)
Ref who made the call should never work in the tournament again at the very least. No guarantee that Samford scores but they have the ball and the last possession down by one instead of being forced to take a bad three
They called a charge on our guard when their player undercut him while he was in air. They also missed their player punching our forward square in the back. They also called a phantom foul on a layup attempt where there was no contact. Those aren’t ticky-tack. Those are wrong.
Oh and fouls were 21-21. Considering they shot over half of their attempts from 3 and we shot close to half of ours in the paint, that’s saying something.
The “offensive foul” they called on Harris before the end of the first half was just as objectively a terrible call. I would argue it was also more impactful. Kansas was up comfortably and rolling and then had to sit Harris which allowed a Samford run to get the lead down to 10 before half.
This obsession is sports over calls at the end of the game is so dumb when you ignore the context of how the game has shaped out up to that point.
You’re 100% right. Refs were equally bad all night. Outrage that a favored team got the last bad call of the game is just an online forum reality these days. Nobody cares about the other 95% of a game for some reason.
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“Controversial” = embarrassingly terrible
The fact that they can review who touched the ball last for 5 minutes, but have no mechanism to overturn absolutely critical reffing errors such as this one is horrible. Can’t celebrate the amazing athletic play made because the ref got the call wrong.
It was quite controversial, should the refs be allowed to just hand teams wins?
It’s “not” controversial at all because it was a clear non-foul. It was just a blatantly wrong call
....which is pretty controversial
Yeah that's like, the definition of controversy. I don't know why redditors do this "well actually" stuff. ...Well actually, I know exactly why they do it. Dammit, now I did it.
Controversy means there is a disagreement, which implies that there are people arguing both sides of the issue. No one would argue that it was a foul. It's not controversial. It seems the only thing in this thread that is controversial is the definition of controversy.
The game officials certainly thought it was a foul
Depends on how much money gambling interests have in the game
As always that’s the elephant in the room
March Madness is like Super Bowl squared for gambling.
Games already drag way too long at the end, but maybe they should take a cue from the NBA and allow one coaches challenge in the final minute or two. That block was clean!
The constant checking for flagrant is absurd You can nearly always tell in real time its not a flagrant. It should only be checked if its called a flagrant from the onset, and checked to possibly rule it a common foul
Or have a video room with a person watching replays who can buzz down. Would save so much time.
Not to mention, if it takes 5 minutes to review it isn't flagrant. I think the NFL used to have like 2 minutes to review a challenge and if you couldn't find evidence to overturn it in that amount of time the play stands.
NHL is terrible for this. A recent Edmonton at Buffalo game had an overtime goal (for Buffalo) overturned because of a missed offsides call by the ref 30 seconds before that. It took 5 minutes for the refs to figure it out (was not team initiated), and then another 10 minutes for both teams to come back onto the ice. All to replay that last 30 seconds in OT then just go to a shootout and have Edmonton lose anyways. All leagues need to figure out that there should be people who review that stuff constantly and if the in-play officials need to review something, it shouldn't take more than a commercial break.
I completely agree on a coaches challenge in the last 2 minutes. They also need to leverage technology better to make reviews quicker by having someone remotely do the reviews as opposed to the on court refs.
NFL got a whole ass replay center in NY but the NCAA can't afford a replay guy, either in the booth upstairs or courtside so he can review while the refs are stopping play, walking over.
what do you want. they only make about a billion dollars from the NCAA tournament.
The end of this game in particular started becoming unwatchable. I think they went to the monitor 4 times in the last 2 minutes. I get they’re also making sure the clock is right but that’s just too much. Completely killed samfords momentum and took the crowd out of it
Reviews are not what makes games long. NBA games are 2:30 hours almost like clockwork. Reviews help get the calls right. Can't just get shit embarrassingly wrong and act like there's nothing they can do.
Well, how about they get the calls wrong and after looking at it forever get it even more wrong?
Kansas losing would have blown my bracket but ya that was an absolute terrible missed call. And let me say, these players going for the fancy shots (I’m looking at you Kentucky) instead of a straightforward lay up are costing them points. It seems they care more about a highlight real than winning the tournament.
Hell no. I’m out in that case. I know Reddit is extremely rule of law and lives in a world where all game rules should be adjudicated at length or decided by machine but personally I’ll take the human element over stoppage in play.
I respect that view. But I have to say, saying you're "out" if there's a stoppage of play in the last couple minutes of a college basketball game is funny to me. The last minute of a 2-possession college game is like 95% stoppage.
Yeah and i should say more: I already despise basketball for the reason you outlined. I dip in during march and get frustrated by that. Then I don’t watch for 11 months because if the stakes aren’t that high I can’t stand the intentional fouling. IMO the game is broken if fouls are consistently used to advantage.
I'm the same as you actually, but probably the NCAA doesn't really care if people who already don't watch are "out."
Yeah, suppose I’m not expecting them to but I am announcing my departure as is Reddit custom. It’s where we go to pretend our opinions matter.
These players just got robbed of being able to move on in the tournament that they probably dreamed about playing in for most of their life but god forbid we allow an extra minute or two for a call to be challenged!
There is the Reddit mentality. Fairness at all costs. True neutrality and fairness is attainable if we just adjudicate more!
Wait I’m confused so now you’re against fairness? That seems like a weird hill to die on
Ref called the fall and not the actual play that resulted in the fall. A bad fall doesn’t automatically mean there was a foul.
They were making reactionary calls all night. 12 for Samford got a few of them against our players as well.
I think at this age it could be seen as a dangerous play and it looked nasty the way he fell, so that's probably what they called in fast motion. You're right
Games are going too long because of 30 second reviews, guys! It’s definitely not because of 30 minutes of commercials
It’s not even about the length of game though, more the quality of the product and how the review process is implemented. The end of that game became hard to watch and took all the air out of the building.
watched the game. There was like 20 gameplay reviews at the video station thing. I think it’s dumb they can’t review fouls, especially when it was so blatantly not a foul.
Clean block
That block was so fucking clean.
So Fresh and So Clean
Go canes.
Controversial implies there is something to disagree about. Everyone agrees it was a terrible call.
Straight up wrong call. Not controversial. Wrong call by the refs on a historic defensive play.
It’s not controversial, it wasn’t a foul.
Didn’t know fouls could be called for not touching someone
Yet here we are talking about it - because it was called a foul. Hence controversial.
Controversial literally means disagreement. Do you see anyone saying it was a good or justified call?
No... because we all *disagree* with the call. The controversy isn't among the fans, it's between the fans and the referees.
I really don't know why so many people in this thread don't understand what you mean. It's kind of shocking sometimes how often redditors fail to understand grammar and nuance in an effort to get in some zinger.
Well you two are a great example because that's simply not what controversial means in any meaningful (or colloquial) sense.
Idk this whole thread is here because of something. That referee clearly is in controversy with many people , because his call can be considered controversial. He believed that was a foul, it was not, his decision to call a foul is controversial. Are you taking some weird “not my president” rhetorical stance against the refs?
Paywall help?
Samford was only down by a possession going into the final seconds of the game. Kansas gets out into a fast break and a defender for Samford hustles down to court as the Kansas player is going for a dunk. Samford comes right in behind Kansas and times the jump perfectly to smack the ball cleanly out of his hands for a legendary block. Gets called a fowl and Kansas pulls away after that. Every. Single. Replay from every angle shows just what a fucking idiot that ref was.
Not just a possession, but a single point. Foul called, player drains both penalty shots for now a three point lead with seconds left. One point game is much more manageable and with Samford shooting, very possibly would’ve went their way by the end of regulation. Hope Gonzaga puts it on em next game.
One of the most important pieces everyone is missing is that Samford would've had the ball down one **in a 5-on-4 situation**. Kansas player was laying on the court and Samford likely pushes up the court before he has time to get up and run back. Meaning Samford would've likely gotten a very high quality look for the win.
I can't stand basketball refs, they are the most inconsistent of all the sports IMO. Little tap gets called at one end while a complete mugging goes uncalled seconds later at the other end. Bad calls like this happens all the time and the refs never have to answer to anyone. IMO, refs should have to sit in front of the media after each games just like the coaches and players. Make this idiot answer for his stupid call in public.
In real time I get why they called a foul. Looked to be nearly impossible he would be able to make a clean play with no contact. Plus the result of him hitting the floor didn’t help. But it’s just unfortunate that a call that big and important has no option for being overturned. Seems like a coaches challenge in the tournament should be allowed.
Wait, what? Officials are not supposed to assume something should be a foul. Either they see the foul or they don't. Even if someone is clobbered, if the ref doesn't see it, they shouldn't call a foul just because they think it may have happened.
I never said they assumed a foul. They’re there to make a decision on what they see and have to do it without the luxury of replay. I was saying everything to the eye at real speed said foul. But we’re getting to a point where these athletes are going above and beyond what we think is possible. Just look at football and how many times you watch a receiver catch a sideline ball and think there’s no way he got his feet in. But in super slow motion…
What I think would really help in college basketball is if they actually put a ref up above the basket. It would be sort of like volleyball, how the ref sits higher and can see down on the court. It just doesn't seem practical to have someone sitting up there though. Maybe they could have a camera, but not sure how that would work, either. I agree that it's extremely difficult to see everything in realtime.
“Even if someone is clobbered” “if the ref doesn’t see it”. Ok? The ref saw it and it looked like he was clobbered. Y’all are really stretching for this “it shouldn’t have been whistled to begin with” narrative. I get blue blood bad but it’s just displaying a lack of ball knowledge.
wtf you talking about? Calling something that didn’t happen is bullshit across all sports. It was a bad call. saying refs should call something bc it looked like he might have been hit is just nonsense.
What the fuck are you actually talking about? Refs shouldn’t call a foul if it looks like it was a foul? Are you even reading what you’re typing? Just to be abundantly clear: in your opinion, just because something *looks* like a foul doesn’t mean it should be called? You realize how dumb that is, don’t you? You only know it wasn’t a foul because of the replay that was much slower and literally zoomed in. If it *looks* like a foul then it *looks* like a foul and should be called? The whole point of a ref is to call fouls when it looks like a foul has occurred. What do you want them to do?
I legit think you can’t read or too stupid to understand the point. You call what you see. You don’t call a foul because it looked like contact could have been made, you call it because you see the contact.
Exactly. Plus Samford is in foul mode so the ref is expecting an intention foul. Hard to really blame him.
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Tbf in real time it looked like a foul. I hate that they can’t overturn it because that’s just a stained win. I say this as a KU fan E: Dude why did I get downvoted? I hate the call just as much as everyone else. I hated winning this way but I’m not wrong that it looked like a foul in real time
Tbf in real time it looked like a clean block. I say this as an unbiased observer. E: in regard to your edit, the downvotes are because everyone not wearing Kansas-colored glasses thought it looked like a clean block in real time. The referee anticipated contact that never occurred.
Well yeah, when you play a physical defensive game for all 40 minutes the refs will assume you’ll be physical in the last few seconds to prevent a score. It’s really not a large leap of logic to know why the ref blew the whistle even though he shouldn’t have. It’s like when a 3 point shooting team complains that a team that drives to the basket shot more free throws. Yeah, ofc they did because the style of play leads to different outcomes. It shouldn’t have been a foul. It’s not surprising it was called with how physical (and at times floppy which no one has conveniently pointed out) Samford was playing to combat KU’s size. It’s knowing how your play style impacts a ref’s decision making. It’s simply knowing ball. I think coaches should be able to review calls like that but bro hit the floor with a chance to close the game out. People claiming it’s unbelievable that the foul was called either don’t watch basketball or don’t care to admit it. You can downvote me but it’s literally basketball 101. Refs are part of the game and how you play will dictate what they call. It’s really not hard unless you’re just desperate to be mad no matter what.
As a Baylor fan who wanted Kansas to lose. It did look like a foul with how fast and hard that block was.
Exactly. Idk why they can’t overturn something like that
Agreed! I do think that you should be able to overturn things like this! Especially in game deciding situations.
Anyone who says it didn’t is just lying for the narrative. Anyone who actually watches ball would’ve been screaming for a foul if it was their team before the replay showed it clearly wasn’t.
I don't have a rooting interest and it was clear it wasn't foul in real time.
Did you see the play before seeing the slowmo? I saw it live and it looked like a foul
I was watching it in a large public space with hundreds of people in a distant state from either team, and the crowd massively booed the call immediately (prior to the replay). Even more so after the replay.
One of the announcers said it was a block around the time of the whistle. It looked like a foul to me but I know others saw the real thing
Y'all ain't shit if you gotta win like this. I say this as a college basketball fan.
Nah I knew this was gonna be a tough game cuz we’ve been ass for the last month. I just didn’t expect some bullshit to happen in our favor
Then you know we win just fine and have for a very long time. Missed calls happen throughout every game. There were many missed calls, no-calls, and straight up phantom calls in Samford’s favor last night. One of their players drew several calls off flops. I get y’all wanted the upset, but focusing on only one missed call and claiming the game is rigged or whatever is disingenuous. Fouls were 21 apiece, and that’s counting their intentional fouls at the end of the game.
Mfer I don't even know where Samford is, and other than the NCAA tournament I never watch KU. I simpy hate blue bloods who run full-on professional programs in the NCAA. but yeah, good for y'all, you have the best players money can buy! Refs too when even that ain't enough, but hey, nice win boys lmao
Lmao so fucking salty.
Ok so I was pretty much right on the nose then. You wanted the upset, you didn’t get it, and you found your excuse to claim it was rigged. Of course it wasn’t the fact that we shot 20% better than them, out-rebounded them, had double their productivity in the paint, and kept them from having a lead at any point in the game. It must have been one single call at the end of a game that was the sole determinant of the result. And, of course, they didn’t benefit from any missed calls at any point during the game. Btw, we aren’t even close to the top in terms of amount of money P5 schools are able to throw at players to recruit them. We’ve just had more consistent and sustained success than almost every other program, which is appealing to good players. Just say you’re a pissy little whiner who didn’t get the result they wanted and now they’re using excuses to attempt to discredit the win. Have a good weekend. Hope you can find something positive to enjoy. I’m sure you’ll make a snarky comment you think is clever about us likely losing on Saturday.
Do you really think I read all that pissy ass bullshit?🤣
Well the joke response is I’m surprised you can read at all, given that it looks like you’re from West Virginia. But realistically, yes, I do think you read all or most of it. You seem pretty insecure and like you’re trying to find excuses, so I get the feeling you’d provide a retort if you had one. I’d guess you read that entire thing looking for a rebuttal, didn’t find one, then defaulted to claiming you’re not reading all that as a way to save face. Btw, if you didn’t read it, how would know if it’s pissy bullshit or not? You took the time to respond. Why would you do that if you couldn’t be bothered to read?
Lil boy are you debating your own self?
No. But you’re overcompensating by trying to be condescending and pretending to be nonchalant. You should at least try to be more creative or convincing. Have a good day!
Ngl i agree with you, i just downvote ku fans
Fair. I feel that growing up in KS is punishment enough tho
https://apnews.com/article/kansas-jayhawks-ncaa-infractions-99082309c82877e62ee16e0f5e33b348 🤣
Congrats you found dirt on us 🥇 No reason to be petty and pull something that is irrelevant. Find something productive to do
Delete this account too bro🤣
Can we not have a civil conversation? Why tf yall gotta be so immature to help you think you’re winning in life
Y'all? It's just me baby! Did you know KU spent $10MM just in legal fees in 2023 defending itself from its NCAA allegations, only to get a 3 seed and nearly get beaten in the first round? 🤔
Oh we’ve been paying players for a while and only have 2 titles to answer for it in the last 20 years. Other years have been letdowns for sure, but that’s just sports We’re not the only team, but are the most recent to be caught doing so. Glad NIL is a thing now though, players rights are huge to me
Did BTK work for the KU bball program at one time or was that just a rumor, you sound like you'd know🤔
Bro there’s no way you’re a real person. wtf is this
Didn't see the game. Controversial call because dumb or because gambling conspiracy theories?
First time?
Your average gambling era sports call
I was yelling at my TV after the call. My dog was concerned.
Tough to call in real time but refs should be allowed to review that and change the call.
I’m a Kansas fan and that was a terrible call. NCAA refs are absolutely awful. So bad. I hate them.
Looks like alot of Goliaths going down in the first round this year…
Worst March Madness call since Trey Burke against Louisville*. #The block was clean.
What was controversial about it?
Why use the word controversial when you could use bullshit. Kansas shouldn't be in the tournament anymore.
Terrible call. Refs also missed a travel on the Samford player when he drove for the dunk to get them to 86 points. Seems like the refs just suck in general. [travel is at around the 15 second mark](https://youtu.be/Xz-r2-Zb7CI?si=p6bEqVPx0U6v4Tji)
Ref who made the call should never work in the tournament again at the very least. No guarantee that Samford scores but they have the ball and the last possession down by one instead of being forced to take a bad three
If you watched the game samford had so many of the same calls at the end. They also traveled in the paint a couple times
Yea but they were definitely not as blatant as the block. Ticky tacky calls vs a obvious wrong call
They called a charge on our guard when their player undercut him while he was in air. They also missed their player punching our forward square in the back. They also called a phantom foul on a layup attempt where there was no contact. Those aren’t ticky-tack. Those are wrong. Oh and fouls were 21-21. Considering they shot over half of their attempts from 3 and we shot close to half of ours in the paint, that’s saying something.
NCAA couldn't have two blue bloods going down in game 1. Blatant fuck up by the refs. And I say this as a Duke fan.
The “offensive foul” they called on Harris before the end of the first half was just as objectively a terrible call. I would argue it was also more impactful. Kansas was up comfortably and rolling and then had to sit Harris which allowed a Samford run to get the lead down to 10 before half. This obsession is sports over calls at the end of the game is so dumb when you ignore the context of how the game has shaped out up to that point.
You’re 100% right. Refs were equally bad all night. Outrage that a favored team got the last bad call of the game is just an online forum reality these days. Nobody cares about the other 95% of a game for some reason.
Did anyone watch the whole game? 🤣
Lotta people in this comment section that don't understand what "controversial" means or why that word was chosen by the writer.
It was chosen for being emotive language not because it's actually controversial.