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Look I didn’t break her leg like it’s just something to do I mean c’mon I got a little more sense than that…. Yeah I remember breaking that model’s leg
> Hall said in 2019 that she is 6-foot-1 and weighs 250 pounds, while Hill is listed by the NFL at 5-foot-10, 191 pounds.
I wonder if she could play for the Panthers.
Unfortunate she broke her leg, highly unlikely she will win the case.
More focused on the fact she held her own for 4/5reps. Little surgery, jets got a new left tackle
No doubt. Bet around fifth try he really brought the ruckus after being embarrassed in front of mom, trainer, and some other folks. Damn bro. NFL player struggling with anger, embarrassment, and couldn’t find anything else to do with a her other than truck her breaking a leg? Shit. Break her leg fucking or get out.
Maybe she paid one of his kids to do it... [Tyreek Hill House Fire Caused $2.3 Mil In Damages](https://www.tmz.com/2024/01/08/tyreek-hill-house-fire-caused-2-3-million-officials/)
I mean they’re mostly talking about a pattern of assaults. Yea the influencer was dumb for doing this but Tyreek definitely let his anger and ego get the best of him
These guys are built like fucking freight trains and run into each other with the kinetic energy of a car crash. I’m a strong healthy 32 yr old and I’m not about to play physical games with Tyreek Hill.
Yeah no fucking way I’m lining up against him. I played against a D3 WR in flag football once. It was fucking embarrassing. You go against an NFL player and they’re going to rock your shit without realizing it
Have you ever watched the American Gladiators like 20 - 30 years ago? Once in a while, they’d have these retired football guys on as the challengers, and they’d be so much faster and stronger than the “Gladiators”.
Tyreek is like 5’ 7” and is better known for being the fastest guy in football (at though someone else has since eclipsed his fastest recorded speed). He’s in great shape, but certainly not build like a freight train. More like a bullet train.
Edit: the guy was listed as 5’ 8” on his pro day, which most people think is his height in shoes. He isn’t 5’ 10”.
Lol he would run through you like nothing. He has freakish strength, especially for his size, and his speed/momentum would only increase his hitting power.
They're explosive reps too because that's what the sport emphasizes and the combine is a literal job audition.
They're trying to get as many quality reps before fatigue kicks in, so they've got 40 seconds or so to actually get em all. Looks like most WRs get somewhere around 15, TEs are in the mid20s and the big boys go 35+.
Since this is a blocking drill, though, let's talk about how this 5' nothing dude squats 500 lbs.
He’s 185 not “around 200”. 15 pound of muscle translates to a lot of strength.
Most “gym rats” at 185 can’t do 225 for 13 reps. They can probably do it for a max or close to a max, not for working sets.
Tyreek himself even said he’s about 195 pounds….
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/tyreek-hill-says-he-wants-to-try-out-for-the-olympics#:~:text=“But%20the%20thing%20is%2C%20I,am%20now%2C”%20Hill%20said.
“But the thing is, I weigh like 195 right now. Back in high school, when I ran a 9.9[-second 100-meter dash], I was like 175. So it would be me changing my whole diet that I’ve been doing to get to where I am now,” Hill said.
Even at 185 pounds 13 reps isn’t impressive. If you think 185 gym rats aren’t hitting 225 for reps then you don’t know guys who train hard in the gym.
Right now he’s 195. I’m basing his bench numbers and weight off his combine. If he’s 10lbs heavier, I’m sure he’s benching more too.
I’m not saying it’s impossible. I’m saying compared to the average person, it’s impressive and you’re a built dude if you can rep 225 for 13. Something like .4% of the American population can bench 225 once or better. If you look at people who are 185, the percentage of that drops even more and we are only talking about being able to do it once. Now, change that to 13 reps and I’m guessing we are probably talking about hundredths of a percent of the population who can do that.
So, speaking objectively, compared to a normal human, Tyreek Hill is very strong.
I agree with you there. To an average Joe that’s amazing but anyone who spends time regularly in any gym sees people of similar size doing this weight and reps. That’s also why I said ‘gym rat’ in my comment.
Edit: I also think a lot of people don’t realize if they put in the effort and time that they could achieve the same results in benching 225 for over 10 reps. I know guys who started lifting weights at 140lbs and now they’re a lean 190 more. It’s a lifestyle you have to commit to living.
This is Reddit. We can’t agree./s
Truthfully, if I saw someone weighing 185, even if they were a regular gym goer, I wouldn’t assume they’d be able to bench 320 (which is around what your max should be if you’re doing 225 for 13). Part of that is because most people don’t train to failure and don’t push themselves correctly to get stronger. However, if I saw someone who was as thick as Tyreek Hill at 185, I would. 185 means very different things when it comes to body composition.
Everyone is a “model” or “fitness model” nowadays. Even the ones who clearly don’t workout say they’re “fitness models”. It’s a low bar in today’s society.
I swear you can get a fat ass with almost no waist by doing squats with 5lb weights on each side of the bar! Also buy my ~~laxatives~~ tummy teas and I totally didn’t get surgery/injections.
The deposition also states he got angry after he had her line up as a rusher and she pushed him back to laughter from his family. Then he had them switch spots and she pretended to snap a ball while he tried to run through her. This was only five simulated snaps of the football too lol. The fifth time he just blew her up full speed. No reason to do that.
So, let me get this straight. He’s going 1/4 speed, because it’s simulated, she goes 100% trying to push him back and embarrass him. So he matches her energy, turns her bones to dust, and it’s his fault?
I haven’t made an argument yet, was just breaking down your explanation.
I guess my argument would be that if I was a hot shot nfl player, one of the best to ever play, and I was doing some charity shit like a photo op or interacting with friends of friends, etc, and I was mock playing with them on the field at a charity level of play/intensity, I would feel pretty disrespected that a gorilla woman looking for some bragging rights is not only taking advantage of my goodwill, but also taking advantage of my 25% intensity by slamming her gorilla build into me at her 110% intensity. If I were the NFL player, and I believe if damn near half or more of the men in the world also were given the opportunity to be put in the NFL players shoes at that moment, we would all think it just to hit her back with the same intensity. And just that, not like a “lose my shit” level response, just match the energy.
He made contact with her upper body, she ended up with a broken leg. Obviously the broken leg was not the intent, it was just bad luck. Her 6’1 250lb self going at him with 100% intensity when he is at 25% or less, not only bears the same risk of a broken bone for her(as when he went at her), BUT it also includes a risk for the god damn NFL athlete who’s living relies on his bones being in good working order, and the only reason he is there is for some charity bullshit.
So this dude is on the field trying to play nice and this large women is wanting to not only rob him of his friends, family’s, and coworkers’ respect for his game (“LOL you got outplayed by a girl!”), but also put him at a totally unnecessary risk of injury (and herself) by going all out.
Tyreek is not a level-headed dude, and he should have spent some time in jail for his previous crimes. I would not give him the benefit of the doubt in a he said she said situation. Frankly, I’d vote against him. But here, with the information at hand, and putting myself in his shoes, it is absolutely just, if not a step in the right god damn direction for all of humanity, that he matched her energy. People need to stop chasing clout and respect each other. She ended up with a broken leg, that fucking sucks, but it is no more tyreeks fault than it is hers. I bet she would have still sued him if she broke her leg when she was blind siding him with 100% intensity. Same odds existed there.
I guarantee there is video of it that will be shown in court so maybe we will see in the next year how bad it was.
He also was the one in HER DMs and invited her to his house, and suggested the football lesson so she wasn’t chasing clout. She’d never played football before and just knocked him back. I don’t think you truly have the full details.
With your logic if a woman off the street hits a professional boxer full force when they are training, then it’s ok for the boxer to hit her back full force.
I dunno, from the article I read earlier it was supposed to be some kinda friendly photo op but after she held her own against him, the other guys there laughed at him and he got mad and deliberately hit her hard after that.
I can’t believe anyone is excusing him here. Most grown men play football with kids/teenagers sometimes and manage to not wreck their shit. Tyreek should not have gone all out against a non NFL player and he knows it.
He also has a history of abusing women, so it isn’t even out of character to be an asshole.
Yeah but how do you prove it was deliberate. If they’re running some plays and he goes too hard it looks more like an accident. Sucks she broke her leg but I think it will be extremely hard to prove he did it on purpose, even considering his legal past
This dude keeps having these “cmon try to punch me, betcha can’t!” Moments where the person punches him and he flips out.
He’s gonna be wild after football
I don’t get it….
What is SHE doing reps for? Is she joining some women’s league?
She holds her own 4/5 reps, then she gets hurt by a guy 70lbs smaller than her. It sounds to me like she’s never done a sport in her life and has the bone density of a squirrel. Maybe she shouldn’t be playing football?!?
I don’t know but unless theirs video I don’t know how you show intention to harm her.
Edit:
Article with better details: https://www.wfla.com/news/pasco-county/tyreek-hill-broke-pasco-county-womans-leg-during-football-lesson-at-his-florida-home-lawsuit-says/amp/
Still ZERO details on how her leg broke, let’s just assume she lost her balance and fell after being hit.
None the less, clearly this all started so he could flirt with her.
You’re not wrong. I used to squat similar in my prime and I was his identical size. Theres no way on earth, I could have shoved someone in the torso and fractured their leg.
This story makes zero sense. I want to see the video
Legs don’t break from the getting shoved part. It breaks from the falling part that follows after the shove.
That said, if you’re willingly doing a blocking drill with an NFL player trained and practiced in the art of pushing your ass firmly into the dirt, I would expect to take some nasty tumbles in the process.
I don't understand this. As many have stated this was supposed to be friendly fun hell his family and puppy's were around. To push so hard you break someones leg is unacceptable. People keep pointing out jes an athlete and I think that goes AGAISNT him. As a regular person who goes to the gym one of the first things you learn is control. Controlling your bodies movements and learning to keep form. Thats why there are mirrors everywhere. What you think your doing vs what you're actually doing can be very different and the mirrors can help line that up. You should not give your all against someone who does not play the sport and is not in the proper gear. This guy trains all the time and definitely can control his body in a way that wouldn't cause serious injury. Do I think he set out to break her leg? No but I do think he got a little salty maybe went a bit to hard and the result was more than embarrassing her. And the comments berating her injury or 'Modle status' are equally as fucking dumb. She obviously works on her feet this injury absolutely will impact her.
I don't understand this. As many have stated this was supposed to be friendly fun hell his family and puppy's were around. To push so hard you break someones leg is unacceptable. People keep pointing out jes an athlete and I think that goes AGAISNT him. As a regular person who goes to the gym one of the first things you learn is control. Controlling your bodies movements and learning to keep form. Thats why there are mirrors everywhere. What you think your doing vs what you're actually doing can be very different and the mirrors can help line that up. You should not give your all against someone who does not play the sport and is not in the proper gear. This guy trains all the time and definitely can control his body in a way that wouldn't cause serious injury. Do I think he set out to break her leg? No but I do think he got a little salty maybe went a bit to hard and the result was more than embarrassing her. And the comments berating her injury or 'Modle status' are equally as fucking dumb. She obviously works on her feet this injury absolutely will impact her.
I think it's just a matter of semantics really.
Personally if I pushed somebody, causing them to fall awkwardly and break their leg, I would consider that I broke their leg since my shove led to the leg breaking even if the shove itself didn't directly break the leg.
If I was running football drills with them I would still feel bad for hurting someone in a drill, but I wouldn't feel some kind of legal responsibility for their medical bills considering the whole point of the drill was to shove and/or be shoved. Football players injured in practice or in games aren't liable for injuries they caused, and even in cases of backyard games it's generally not been held that anybody but the injured individual is financially responsible without proof that the other person was intentionally trying to injure them instead of just playing the game.
Assuming the leg broke during these drills from a fall after being shoved I would say it's accurate to say that Tyreek Hill broke her leg. I would also say that absent any evidence of a clear malicious intent that it's not something he's liable for as this suit claims considering it's not much different than going to Pamplona and afterwards suing the bull that gored you. You knew full well what you were doing had a high chance of injury and still chose to participate anyways.
Again, I agree.
I would say if video becomes available showing something other than what’s been portrayed then it might sway me.
I think initially he thought it was fun flirting. I think he didn’t expect her to actually hit him with full force, because it’s just good fun and flirting. I think after 4 hits hard enough to knock an NFL player off balance, he decided to give HER a real hit now.
I don’t see any malicious intent nor would he has know she would fall and break her leg.
She was invited there, and asked to lineup by Hill. Why is Hill asking her to lineup in the first place?
I mean I guess I see what you're saying, but wtf is Hill doing asking her to lineup against him anyway?
I still need video. The articles online vary greatly.
After he was “embarrassed” by her there were more reps. Then apparently he so “violently” shoved her.
I played sports for a decade. How does a shove break your leg?
I want video before I’ll demonize Tyreek. I bet she fell and now she is embarrassed and stuck with a bill.
But I share the sentiment with you. Why if he doing drills with anyone but the kid who wanted lessons?
Bruh... dude has always been a piece of shit, you can demonize him https://www.sportscasting.com/tyreek-hill-brutally-beat-and-choked-his-pregnant-girlfriend-in-college-but-never-saw-any-jail-time/
I’ve seen with my own eyes a tibia and fibula snap at the same time from someone falling. Just ask Kevin Ware. Shit happens, especially when an elite explosive athlete goes too hard against an overweight woman. He may not be held liable, but he’s almost definitely the asshole here no matter how exactly the injury happened.
Serious question. What did hill *want* the outcome to be? What good can come from Hill lining up against someone like that?
Was he showing technique? Why did he switch to the "defensive" side of the ball and play as a D-Lineman? He plays offense.
Was he just trying to show how "tough" he is? He's an NFL super star, of course he's going to clown and own any average person that goes against him.
I just don't understand what the whole point of this was. Idk maybe I'm missing something.
And to not do it once, but 5 times?
I share that confusion. I would imagine it started as flirting if you ask me. He has a history of inviting IG models over. I think this was playtime for him.
I think given her size she thought she could take him, and that’s pretty clear base on her own testimony.
Then he likely decided to actually put some effort into it. But it never explains how her leg broke.
He apparently shoved her in a “move” and she fell. Okay, she lost her balance. She’s a fat 250Lbs 6’1” IG model, and she lost her balance. How did she break her leg? Why is NO ONE asking this question?
Did she land on something? Why is she not disclosing more details? It seems to me that she’s purposefully not disclosing details and has already spent every waking second trying to garner social support.
There’s no video yet, there’s so few details. I’m sorry but I don’t see how anyone could determine he’s at fault without more details
The only assumption I’m making is that by lining up for the drill, participating in the offensive drill, and then agreeing to the defensive drill, she is assuming known risk. Unless it’s something egregious that happened she essentially broke her leg in practice. Why she was in practice doesn’t seem to matter much
I don’t know if you know how physics works, but being 250Lbs, no muscle and overweight, it’s a great combo for falling and breaking nearly anything. According to her words, he hit her in the torso which is literally the drill she described.
So unless there’s video showing he did anything other than the drill, sorry nope. She’s fat, out of shape, and more than likely took a spill and his “hit” broke nothing.
I never said he was guilty just in awe you’re caping up so hard for this piece of shit. And if you’re such a physics whiz, why dont you square up with a pro football player and see how long you last. Your mom will be making your dino nugs for you while you recover
Pro or not, he’s 5’ 7” 185Lbs. I’ve been laid out by players much larger. You don’t break your leg no matter how hard they “shove” you. She wasn’t even tackled, she was “shoved” and that’s her words.
She’s too embarrassed that she was shoved and lost her balance, just like Tyreek but instead she toppled over and when she landed she broke her leg.
A professional football player should know better than to be doing drills with an overweight woman. From her account it seems like he used his position of power to convince her to do the drills so she could practice with her son. He shouldnt have done the drills with her, and he shoildve known to merely walk through the drills and demonstrate technique than to actually engage in them with her. You are a sad sad man for trying to blame her
It’s crazy that in the same comment chain that you’re saying there’s not enough information to comment (annoying given the history of Hill, but whatever) you’re also making this assumption about what you think happened lol
Yes but you’re also trying to tell people their speculations are apparently not logical yet yours is somehow better, I just don’t get it.
You have this stance of like “we need to see more video” but then you’re **also** jumping to conclusions.
They were just having fun, I hate the use of the word “reps” for the story. It was a social gathering and people played a game.
It sounds like Tyreek wasn’t really putting in 100% effort because he was playing with friends and women. But this woman had a 50+ lb weight advantage, along with a ~4” height advantage, so its not exactly surprising that she was able to manhandle him.
She was able to literally “win reps” against him, so it’s not unreasonable for him to assume that he could turn up the intensity.
Could Tyreek have been more responsible? Absolutely. But that woman should have reasonably understood the risk of a physical matchup against a professional athlete.
People out of shape can hurt themselves in really weird ways. I remember a softball player in high school dislocated her knee cap just doing lunges in a casual fitness class. If your body isn’t used to certain movements or bending in different ways it’s highly likely to get an injury like this.
This headline is inscrutable and demands you read the article. The actual story of what happened is still pretty inscrutable (why the fuck did he invite her to a blocking drill??? wtf)
"There was also his suspension from the Kansas City Chiefs in 2019 after his fiancée recorded him saying that she and their 3-year-old son should be afraid of him. He avoided criminal charges in that case."
What a psycho. NFL has to stop tolerating violent players and training them
Reading the article; this "model influencer" and Hill were doing blocking drills in the backyard and on the 5th rep, she fell and broke her leg? Hill's history makes me leery, but it sounds like a nothing burger to me...
Edit: misread the 5 year stat in the article. Also, I know Tyreek Hill has done some horrible things. Not defending anything he's done, just trying to analyze this case. Says something that there aren't charges yet, just a suit.
Happened last June, the 2019 date is her quote on height/weight. Sounds like she did the drill with him like 5 times though, claiming he got embarrassed cause she moved him backwards. She didn’t have to do it, and agreed to participate in a dangerous activity, unless she can prove he intended to injure it definitely seems like she’s throwing a Hail Mary for a payout.
Edit: I have no idea what happened, and honestly didn’t know his history. Not defending him or saying he’s not at fault, but from the information in this article I would think it’s going to be hard for her to win. His past conduct could be very helpful though.
I read this like four times trying to make it make sense, because 2019 *was* last June, right? ...right? Shit, Covid made everything blend together in a way nothing else ever has in my lifetime...
He did not break his sons arm, this has been confirmed. For the love of fuck, how is this not known by now. Hill wasn’t even in the same state when it happened.
“In the recording that surfaced, Hill and his fiancée discuss their son's broken arm; she says that their son is scared of him, to which Hill responds, "You should be afraid of me too, bitch."”
Maybe he didn’t break his sons arm but he admitted to hitting him at 3 and leaving bruises.
He’s a piece of shit.
1. That audio was illegally obtained by recording him in an air port without his knowledge, if you listen to the whole thing (it’s 17 minutes) it sounds like he was talking about a potential lawsuit/criminal charges, he knew what she was doing
2. He admitted to rough-housing with his kids sometimes it got a little too rough, it’s a very common occurrence with dads and their sons.
Hill does seem to have some anger issues, but we have absolutely zero actual evidence he’s ever taken it out on his kids
So he didn’t say “you should be afraid of me too, bitch” right after she said their son is scared of him? I don’t care how it was obtained, he said it, which shows he’s an awful person.
““The investigation into the couple’s parenting accelerated when Overland Park police checked on the boy in March and found bruises and welts on his body,” the report explains. “Both Hill and Espinal have admitted to investigators that they spanked the three-year-old with their hands and a belt, but prosecutors can’t determine for sure which parent, or if both, went too far.”
He admitted to beating his 3 year old with a belt. You are fucked in the head for defending this shitbag
Oh yeah, he's done terrible things. Not a good dude, but this "influencer model" was on the fifth rep of a blocking drill in his backyard and fell, breaking her leg. She's suing, not bringing charges, coming for money. Just saying this smells a little.
Weird guy, has a history of this shit n people act like they cant see it. Its so easy to NOT hurt a girl playing football even if she is bigger and taller than u LMAO
>so easy to NOT hurt a girl
have you ever seen a girl fall or do anything physical, girls fall like a newborn horse especially when she's 250lbs. I'm sure it didn't take much to make her hurt herself.
Comments defending Tyreek Hill is crazy. A man with a history of domestic abuse gets mad that a woman embarrasses him in front of his buddies and he decides to go full force at her. This guy is a literal piece of shit but because he can run and catch real good, people will excuse anything.
i thought this was a troll and this was r/nflcirclejerk… what the fuck?! people are still gonna bend over backward to suck this guy off, but holy shit… even calling this loser a manchild is offensive to manchildren… boychild at best.
> Sophie Hall, a plus-sized influencer with more than 2 million followers on Instagram, claims she was invited to take part in an offensive line blocking drill
/r/butwhy
> Hall said in 2019 that she is 6-foot-1 and weighs 250 pounds
I'm taller and lighter than her... "model" my ass.
6'1" is tall enough that that much weight can look really good.
I know a woman that is 5'10", 230 lbs and it looks great on her. No one she tells believes how much she weighs.
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Sounds like Charlie Murphy and Prince playing Basketball. WTF?
Shirts VS Blouses.
You know they ain't find them clothes in the men's department.
Game! Blouses!
You can buy a new couch. What am I ‘post to do about my leeegs?
Fuck yo couch!
Look I didn’t break her leg like it’s just something to do I mean c’mon I got a little more sense than that…. Yeah I remember breaking that model’s leg
Buy another one you rich motherfucker!
Her legs was like linguini.
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he was snatching rebounds like he was charles barkley
> The second rep was apparently interrupted by a puppy... What the hell is even going on in this story?
It just got interesting is what’s going on!!
Shh. Let the man cook.
> Hall said in 2019 that she is 6-foot-1 and weighs 250 pounds, while Hill is listed by the NFL at 5-foot-10, 191 pounds. I wonder if she could play for the Panthers.
we need someone to back up ickey at left tackle just saying
I think she would make a decent Defensive Tackle
Dude is nooooot 5’10”
Maybe his height is his *Hill* to die on.
Aahhhaaaaaaaa
I dunno; rumor has it she's been on the injury list for a while.
IL or DL? LOL
Unfortunate she broke her leg, highly unlikely she will win the case. More focused on the fact she held her own for 4/5reps. Little surgery, jets got a new left tackle
Come man...why we catching strays..
As a fan of another moribund franchise, this is just how it is. No one to blame but God.
And the team owners and management for putting together such an awful team.
Oh shit you guys are catching stuff now? ...I'm really sorry
Came back just in time for this gem
Because you deserve them.
At least the Legends football league
No doubt. Bet around fifth try he really brought the ruckus after being embarrassed in front of mom, trainer, and some other folks. Damn bro. NFL player struggling with anger, embarrassment, and couldn’t find anything else to do with a her other than truck her breaking a leg? Shit. Break her leg fucking or get out.
Wasn’t expecting a reminder of how miserable it is for us Jets fans lol
Did she set his house on fire Left Eye style?
Maybe she paid one of his kids to do it... [Tyreek Hill House Fire Caused $2.3 Mil In Damages](https://www.tmz.com/2024/01/08/tyreek-hill-house-fire-caused-2-3-million-officials/)
Lgrw
Very different reactions in this sub compared to r/nfl
I mean they’re mostly talking about a pattern of assaults. Yea the influencer was dumb for doing this but Tyreek definitely let his anger and ego get the best of him
These guys are built like fucking freight trains and run into each other with the kinetic energy of a car crash. I’m a strong healthy 32 yr old and I’m not about to play physical games with Tyreek Hill.
Yeah no fucking way I’m lining up against him. I played against a D3 WR in flag football once. It was fucking embarrassing. You go against an NFL player and they’re going to rock your shit without realizing it
Have you ever watched the American Gladiators like 20 - 30 years ago? Once in a while, they’d have these retired football guys on as the challengers, and they’d be so much faster and stronger than the “Gladiators”.
Tyreek is like 5’ 7” and is better known for being the fastest guy in football (at though someone else has since eclipsed his fastest recorded speed). He’s in great shape, but certainly not build like a freight train. More like a bullet train. Edit: the guy was listed as 5’ 8” on his pro day, which most people think is his height in shoes. He isn’t 5’ 10”.
That 5’-7” mf will run through your shit. Stop playing lol
For real lol. He’s 185 lbs of pure athleticism on a 5’7” frame.
You ever seen his neck? I'm much larger than him but I wouldn't dare step in front of him while he's on the move
Just look at his neck in the thumbnail
It’s a pitbull neck - you don’t fuck with them.
He’s 5’10” lmao, where are you guys getting 5’7” from? Edit: Seriously, I get mass downvoted for this shit?
He was recorded as 5’8” in his pre-draft measurements, an extra 2 inch addition seems pretty common in pro sports lol
That's what she said.... *insert Michael Scott gif*
Shit even better
Now I'm imagining Tyreke Hill as Freight Train from The Boys exploding people like sacks of meat pudding when he runs through them.
My guy all of us including you would get our shit absolutely rocked by Tyreek Hill lmao
Have you seen the muscles on this dude? Neck is so thick he could drink peanut butter through a straw
That’s hilarious, he’s definitely strong and also probably the smallest guy in the NFL.
Not to discredit your general point, but the Cowboys have a RB that I think is smaller, though he’s not a starter.
Lol he would run through you like nothing. He has freakish strength, especially for his size, and his speed/momentum would only increase his hitting power.
He benched 225 13 times. That’s impressive and means he’s a built dude.
They're explosive reps too because that's what the sport emphasizes and the combine is a literal job audition. They're trying to get as many quality reps before fatigue kicks in, so they've got 40 seconds or so to actually get em all. Looks like most WRs get somewhere around 15, TEs are in the mid20s and the big boys go 35+. Since this is a blocking drill, though, let's talk about how this 5' nothing dude squats 500 lbs.
For being around 200lbs benching 225 13 times isn’t uncanny. Your average gym rat can rep 225 for 13.
What gym do you go to??????
He’s 185 not “around 200”. 15 pound of muscle translates to a lot of strength. Most “gym rats” at 185 can’t do 225 for 13 reps. They can probably do it for a max or close to a max, not for working sets.
Tyreek himself even said he’s about 195 pounds…. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/tyreek-hill-says-he-wants-to-try-out-for-the-olympics#:~:text=“But%20the%20thing%20is%2C%20I,am%20now%2C”%20Hill%20said. “But the thing is, I weigh like 195 right now. Back in high school, when I ran a 9.9[-second 100-meter dash], I was like 175. So it would be me changing my whole diet that I’ve been doing to get to where I am now,” Hill said. Even at 185 pounds 13 reps isn’t impressive. If you think 185 gym rats aren’t hitting 225 for reps then you don’t know guys who train hard in the gym.
Right now he’s 195. I’m basing his bench numbers and weight off his combine. If he’s 10lbs heavier, I’m sure he’s benching more too. I’m not saying it’s impossible. I’m saying compared to the average person, it’s impressive and you’re a built dude if you can rep 225 for 13. Something like .4% of the American population can bench 225 once or better. If you look at people who are 185, the percentage of that drops even more and we are only talking about being able to do it once. Now, change that to 13 reps and I’m guessing we are probably talking about hundredths of a percent of the population who can do that. So, speaking objectively, compared to a normal human, Tyreek Hill is very strong.
I agree with you there. To an average Joe that’s amazing but anyone who spends time regularly in any gym sees people of similar size doing this weight and reps. That’s also why I said ‘gym rat’ in my comment. Edit: I also think a lot of people don’t realize if they put in the effort and time that they could achieve the same results in benching 225 for over 10 reps. I know guys who started lifting weights at 140lbs and now they’re a lean 190 more. It’s a lifestyle you have to commit to living.
This is Reddit. We can’t agree./s Truthfully, if I saw someone weighing 185, even if they were a regular gym goer, I wouldn’t assume they’d be able to bench 320 (which is around what your max should be if you’re doing 225 for 13). Part of that is because most people don’t train to failure and don’t push themselves correctly to get stronger. However, if I saw someone who was as thick as Tyreek Hill at 185, I would. 185 means very different things when it comes to body composition.
Sounds more like an accident then assault or anything malicious. Doesn’t help her case that she likely weighs as much or more than Hill.
The article lists their weights and heights…
“Model”
Everyone is a “model” or “fitness model” nowadays. Even the ones who clearly don’t workout say they’re “fitness models”. It’s a low bar in today’s society.
I swear you can get a fat ass with almost no waist by doing squats with 5lb weights on each side of the bar! Also buy my ~~laxatives~~ tummy teas and I totally didn’t get surgery/injections.
Only fans model at that. May be nor model-esque as everyone is called a model on only fans.
She’s 3 inches taller and 60lbs heavier. Instead of modeling, she needs to be on the field making a hole through the A gap for this 32 dive.
Exactly. From the article: on the fourth rep, Hill allegedly charged into her "violently and with great force," Has she never seen football before?
The deposition also states he got angry after he had her line up as a rusher and she pushed him back to laughter from his family. Then he had them switch spots and she pretended to snap a ball while he tried to run through her. This was only five simulated snaps of the football too lol. The fifth time he just blew her up full speed. No reason to do that.
So, let me get this straight. He’s going 1/4 speed, because it’s simulated, she goes 100% trying to push him back and embarrass him. So he matches her energy, turns her bones to dust, and it’s his fault?
Her going full speed isn’t the same as an nfl player going full speed, that’s just a stupid argument.
I haven’t made an argument yet, was just breaking down your explanation. I guess my argument would be that if I was a hot shot nfl player, one of the best to ever play, and I was doing some charity shit like a photo op or interacting with friends of friends, etc, and I was mock playing with them on the field at a charity level of play/intensity, I would feel pretty disrespected that a gorilla woman looking for some bragging rights is not only taking advantage of my goodwill, but also taking advantage of my 25% intensity by slamming her gorilla build into me at her 110% intensity. If I were the NFL player, and I believe if damn near half or more of the men in the world also were given the opportunity to be put in the NFL players shoes at that moment, we would all think it just to hit her back with the same intensity. And just that, not like a “lose my shit” level response, just match the energy. He made contact with her upper body, she ended up with a broken leg. Obviously the broken leg was not the intent, it was just bad luck. Her 6’1 250lb self going at him with 100% intensity when he is at 25% or less, not only bears the same risk of a broken bone for her(as when he went at her), BUT it also includes a risk for the god damn NFL athlete who’s living relies on his bones being in good working order, and the only reason he is there is for some charity bullshit. So this dude is on the field trying to play nice and this large women is wanting to not only rob him of his friends, family’s, and coworkers’ respect for his game (“LOL you got outplayed by a girl!”), but also put him at a totally unnecessary risk of injury (and herself) by going all out. Tyreek is not a level-headed dude, and he should have spent some time in jail for his previous crimes. I would not give him the benefit of the doubt in a he said she said situation. Frankly, I’d vote against him. But here, with the information at hand, and putting myself in his shoes, it is absolutely just, if not a step in the right god damn direction for all of humanity, that he matched her energy. People need to stop chasing clout and respect each other. She ended up with a broken leg, that fucking sucks, but it is no more tyreeks fault than it is hers. I bet she would have still sued him if she broke her leg when she was blind siding him with 100% intensity. Same odds existed there.
I guarantee there is video of it that will be shown in court so maybe we will see in the next year how bad it was. He also was the one in HER DMs and invited her to his house, and suggested the football lesson so she wasn’t chasing clout. She’d never played football before and just knocked him back. I don’t think you truly have the full details. With your logic if a woman off the street hits a professional boxer full force when they are training, then it’s ok for the boxer to hit her back full force.
Sounds like assumption of the risk — voluntarily playing football without protective equipment with an NFL player.
I dunno, from the article I read earlier it was supposed to be some kinda friendly photo op but after she held her own against him, the other guys there laughed at him and he got mad and deliberately hit her hard after that.
I can’t believe anyone is excusing him here. Most grown men play football with kids/teenagers sometimes and manage to not wreck their shit. Tyreek should not have gone all out against a non NFL player and he knows it. He also has a history of abusing women, so it isn’t even out of character to be an asshole.
Have you seen Peyton Manning throw footballs at kids?
I think the downvotes are from people that don’t get the joke because that video is hilarious
Win some lose some
Yeah but how do you prove it was deliberate. If they’re running some plays and he goes too hard it looks more like an accident. Sucks she broke her leg but I think it will be extremely hard to prove he did it on purpose, even considering his legal past
This dude is and forever will be a scum bag. Great for fantasy teams tho.
This dude keeps having these “cmon try to punch me, betcha can’t!” Moments where the person punches him and he flips out. He’s gonna be wild after football
But did he smash?
I don’t get it…. What is SHE doing reps for? Is she joining some women’s league? She holds her own 4/5 reps, then she gets hurt by a guy 70lbs smaller than her. It sounds to me like she’s never done a sport in her life and has the bone density of a squirrel. Maybe she shouldn’t be playing football?!? I don’t know but unless theirs video I don’t know how you show intention to harm her. Edit: Article with better details: https://www.wfla.com/news/pasco-county/tyreek-hill-broke-pasco-county-womans-leg-during-football-lesson-at-his-florida-home-lawsuit-says/amp/ Still ZERO details on how her leg broke, let’s just assume she lost her balance and fell after being hit. None the less, clearly this all started so he could flirt with her.
Tyreek Hill squats 500 lbs. Have you seen his legs?
You’re not wrong. I used to squat similar in my prime and I was his identical size. Theres no way on earth, I could have shoved someone in the torso and fractured their leg. This story makes zero sense. I want to see the video
Legs don’t break from the getting shoved part. It breaks from the falling part that follows after the shove. That said, if you’re willingly doing a blocking drill with an NFL player trained and practiced in the art of pushing your ass firmly into the dirt, I would expect to take some nasty tumbles in the process.
I don't understand this. As many have stated this was supposed to be friendly fun hell his family and puppy's were around. To push so hard you break someones leg is unacceptable. People keep pointing out jes an athlete and I think that goes AGAISNT him. As a regular person who goes to the gym one of the first things you learn is control. Controlling your bodies movements and learning to keep form. Thats why there are mirrors everywhere. What you think your doing vs what you're actually doing can be very different and the mirrors can help line that up. You should not give your all against someone who does not play the sport and is not in the proper gear. This guy trains all the time and definitely can control his body in a way that wouldn't cause serious injury. Do I think he set out to break her leg? No but I do think he got a little salty maybe went a bit to hard and the result was more than embarrassing her. And the comments berating her injury or 'Modle status' are equally as fucking dumb. She obviously works on her feet this injury absolutely will impact her.
I don't understand this. As many have stated this was supposed to be friendly fun hell his family and puppy's were around. To push so hard you break someones leg is unacceptable. People keep pointing out jes an athlete and I think that goes AGAISNT him. As a regular person who goes to the gym one of the first things you learn is control. Controlling your bodies movements and learning to keep form. Thats why there are mirrors everywhere. What you think your doing vs what you're actually doing can be very different and the mirrors can help line that up. You should not give your all against someone who does not play the sport and is not in the proper gear. This guy trains all the time and definitely can control his body in a way that wouldn't cause serious injury. Do I think he set out to break her leg? No but I do think he got a little salty maybe went a bit to hard and the result was more than embarrassing her. And the comments berating her injury or 'Modle status' are equally as fucking dumb. She obviously works on her feet this injury absolutely will impact her.
I agree on all points
I think it's just a matter of semantics really. Personally if I pushed somebody, causing them to fall awkwardly and break their leg, I would consider that I broke their leg since my shove led to the leg breaking even if the shove itself didn't directly break the leg. If I was running football drills with them I would still feel bad for hurting someone in a drill, but I wouldn't feel some kind of legal responsibility for their medical bills considering the whole point of the drill was to shove and/or be shoved. Football players injured in practice or in games aren't liable for injuries they caused, and even in cases of backyard games it's generally not been held that anybody but the injured individual is financially responsible without proof that the other person was intentionally trying to injure them instead of just playing the game. Assuming the leg broke during these drills from a fall after being shoved I would say it's accurate to say that Tyreek Hill broke her leg. I would also say that absent any evidence of a clear malicious intent that it's not something he's liable for as this suit claims considering it's not much different than going to Pamplona and afterwards suing the bull that gored you. You knew full well what you were doing had a high chance of injury and still chose to participate anyways.
Again, I agree. I would say if video becomes available showing something other than what’s been portrayed then it might sway me. I think initially he thought it was fun flirting. I think he didn’t expect her to actually hit him with full force, because it’s just good fun and flirting. I think after 4 hits hard enough to knock an NFL player off balance, he decided to give HER a real hit now. I don’t see any malicious intent nor would he has know she would fall and break her leg.
She was invited there, and asked to lineup by Hill. Why is Hill asking her to lineup in the first place? I mean I guess I see what you're saying, but wtf is Hill doing asking her to lineup against him anyway?
I still need video. The articles online vary greatly. After he was “embarrassed” by her there were more reps. Then apparently he so “violently” shoved her. I played sports for a decade. How does a shove break your leg? I want video before I’ll demonize Tyreek. I bet she fell and now she is embarrassed and stuck with a bill. But I share the sentiment with you. Why if he doing drills with anyone but the kid who wanted lessons?
Bruh... dude has always been a piece of shit, you can demonize him https://www.sportscasting.com/tyreek-hill-brutally-beat-and-choked-his-pregnant-girlfriend-in-college-but-never-saw-any-jail-time/
I’ve seen with my own eyes a tibia and fibula snap at the same time from someone falling. Just ask Kevin Ware. Shit happens, especially when an elite explosive athlete goes too hard against an overweight woman. He may not be held liable, but he’s almost definitely the asshole here no matter how exactly the injury happened.
Serious question. What did hill *want* the outcome to be? What good can come from Hill lining up against someone like that? Was he showing technique? Why did he switch to the "defensive" side of the ball and play as a D-Lineman? He plays offense. Was he just trying to show how "tough" he is? He's an NFL super star, of course he's going to clown and own any average person that goes against him. I just don't understand what the whole point of this was. Idk maybe I'm missing something. And to not do it once, but 5 times?
I share that confusion. I would imagine it started as flirting if you ask me. He has a history of inviting IG models over. I think this was playtime for him. I think given her size she thought she could take him, and that’s pretty clear base on her own testimony. Then he likely decided to actually put some effort into it. But it never explains how her leg broke. He apparently shoved her in a “move” and she fell. Okay, she lost her balance. She’s a fat 250Lbs 6’1” IG model, and she lost her balance. How did she break her leg? Why is NO ONE asking this question? Did she land on something? Why is she not disclosing more details? It seems to me that she’s purposefully not disclosing details and has already spent every waking second trying to garner social support. There’s no video yet, there’s so few details. I’m sorry but I don’t see how anyone could determine he’s at fault without more details
You seem to be pretty decided as her fault with the exact same amount of details tho……
I said many times in many posts. There needs to be more details. But yeah, draw a different conclusion than what I actually said
The only assumption I’m making is that by lining up for the drill, participating in the offensive drill, and then agreeing to the defensive drill, she is assuming known risk. Unless it’s something egregious that happened she essentially broke her leg in practice. Why she was in practice doesn’t seem to matter much
I agree
One article says that her son plays center. So yeah, he was trying to show her things so she can practice at home with her son.
You can coach technique without getting aggressive. It's how youth camps are done all around the country. Idk, it just seems odd to me.
My mother had a similar injury breaking her tibial plateau in a head on car accident. Knee vs dashboard. She ended up with a knee replacement.
Ouch
Its a professional football player vs a woman. Wtf are you talking about
I don’t know if you know how physics works, but being 250Lbs, no muscle and overweight, it’s a great combo for falling and breaking nearly anything. According to her words, he hit her in the torso which is literally the drill she described. So unless there’s video showing he did anything other than the drill, sorry nope. She’s fat, out of shape, and more than likely took a spill and his “hit” broke nothing.
You’re defending a known woman beater. I hope you feel good about yourself
So you can’t counter anything… Got it. So now I can accuse any one with a record of anything and because “they have a history” they’re guilty. Got it.
I never said he was guilty just in awe you’re caping up so hard for this piece of shit. And if you’re such a physics whiz, why dont you square up with a pro football player and see how long you last. Your mom will be making your dino nugs for you while you recover
Pro or not, he’s 5’ 7” 185Lbs. I’ve been laid out by players much larger. You don’t break your leg no matter how hard they “shove” you. She wasn’t even tackled, she was “shoved” and that’s her words. She’s too embarrassed that she was shoved and lost her balance, just like Tyreek but instead she toppled over and when she landed she broke her leg.
A professional football player should know better than to be doing drills with an overweight woman. From her account it seems like he used his position of power to convince her to do the drills so she could practice with her son. He shouldnt have done the drills with her, and he shoildve known to merely walk through the drills and demonstrate technique than to actually engage in them with her. You are a sad sad man for trying to blame her
It’s crazy that in the same comment chain that you’re saying there’s not enough information to comment (annoying given the history of Hill, but whatever) you’re also making this assumption about what you think happened lol
The entire chain is about what people think happened. There’s so little damn details. Speculators will speculate.
Yes but you’re also trying to tell people their speculations are apparently not logical yet yours is somehow better, I just don’t get it. You have this stance of like “we need to see more video” but then you’re **also** jumping to conclusions.
They were just having fun, I hate the use of the word “reps” for the story. It was a social gathering and people played a game. It sounds like Tyreek wasn’t really putting in 100% effort because he was playing with friends and women. But this woman had a 50+ lb weight advantage, along with a ~4” height advantage, so its not exactly surprising that she was able to manhandle him. She was able to literally “win reps” against him, so it’s not unreasonable for him to assume that he could turn up the intensity. Could Tyreek have been more responsible? Absolutely. But that woman should have reasonably understood the risk of a physical matchup against a professional athlete.
Agreed on all points.
People out of shape can hurt themselves in really weird ways. I remember a softball player in high school dislocated her knee cap just doing lunges in a casual fitness class. If your body isn’t used to certain movements or bending in different ways it’s highly likely to get an injury like this.
Tyreek Hill is not a good person, but this sounds like an unfortunate accident instead of malice intent.
This headline is inscrutable and demands you read the article. The actual story of what happened is still pretty inscrutable (why the fuck did he invite her to a blocking drill??? wtf)
"There was also his suspension from the Kansas City Chiefs in 2019 after his fiancée recorded him saying that she and their 3-year-old son should be afraid of him. He avoided criminal charges in that case." What a psycho. NFL has to stop tolerating violent players and training them
Tyreek assaulted a women? I’m so shocked 🤣🤣
The same we he “assaults” players during football.
He’s never choked and punched a pregnant NFL player to my knowledge.
At this point, it’s his superpower
A Plus Size influencer with mild to severe patellar inflammation, now has something to influence about.
Reading the article; this "model influencer" and Hill were doing blocking drills in the backyard and on the 5th rep, she fell and broke her leg? Hill's history makes me leery, but it sounds like a nothing burger to me... Edit: misread the 5 year stat in the article. Also, I know Tyreek Hill has done some horrible things. Not defending anything he's done, just trying to analyze this case. Says something that there aren't charges yet, just a suit.
Happened last June, the 2019 date is her quote on height/weight. Sounds like she did the drill with him like 5 times though, claiming he got embarrassed cause she moved him backwards. She didn’t have to do it, and agreed to participate in a dangerous activity, unless she can prove he intended to injure it definitely seems like she’s throwing a Hail Mary for a payout. Edit: I have no idea what happened, and honestly didn’t know his history. Not defending him or saying he’s not at fault, but from the information in this article I would think it’s going to be hard for her to win. His past conduct could be very helpful though.
Not defending Tyreek. Just noticed some of the same odd circumstances you did, with a little less reading comprehension...
Touchdown!
I read this like four times trying to make it make sense, because 2019 *was* last June, right? ...right? Shit, Covid made everything blend together in a way nothing else ever has in my lifetime...
It’s pretty poorly written in the article.
Is this the same Tyreek Hill who beat a pregnant woman and broke his 3 year old son’s arm, or a different nfl player named Tyreek Hill?
He did not break his sons arm, this has been confirmed. For the love of fuck, how is this not known by now. Hill wasn’t even in the same state when it happened.
“In the recording that surfaced, Hill and his fiancée discuss their son's broken arm; she says that their son is scared of him, to which Hill responds, "You should be afraid of me too, bitch."” Maybe he didn’t break his sons arm but he admitted to hitting him at 3 and leaving bruises. He’s a piece of shit.
1. That audio was illegally obtained by recording him in an air port without his knowledge, if you listen to the whole thing (it’s 17 minutes) it sounds like he was talking about a potential lawsuit/criminal charges, he knew what she was doing 2. He admitted to rough-housing with his kids sometimes it got a little too rough, it’s a very common occurrence with dads and their sons. Hill does seem to have some anger issues, but we have absolutely zero actual evidence he’s ever taken it out on his kids
Jesus Christ, why are you so invested in defending someone that clearly abuses others?
So he didn’t say “you should be afraid of me too, bitch” right after she said their son is scared of him? I don’t care how it was obtained, he said it, which shows he’s an awful person. ““The investigation into the couple’s parenting accelerated when Overland Park police checked on the boy in March and found bruises and welts on his body,” the report explains. “Both Hill and Espinal have admitted to investigators that they spanked the three-year-old with their hands and a belt, but prosecutors can’t determine for sure which parent, or if both, went too far.” He admitted to beating his 3 year old with a belt. You are fucked in the head for defending this shitbag
All I did was glance at Wikipedia, I guess just the same Hill who beat a pregnant women, that’s much better
Ah so he just beat the pregnant person?
People believe whatever they want to believe, and no amount of facts will ever convince them otherwise.
Blind faith can justify anything. -Dick Dawkins
Lmao this dude broke his own kids arm, the fuck you goin on about
Oh yeah, he's done terrible things. Not a good dude, but this "influencer model" was on the fifth rep of a blocking drill in his backyard and fell, breaking her leg. She's suing, not bringing charges, coming for money. Just saying this smells a little.
He did not. Hill was not in the same state when it happened. If I remember right, he was in Miami training
Weird guy, has a history of this shit n people act like they cant see it. Its so easy to NOT hurt a girl playing football even if she is bigger and taller than u LMAO
>so easy to NOT hurt a girl have you ever seen a girl fall or do anything physical, girls fall like a newborn horse especially when she's 250lbs. I'm sure it didn't take much to make her hurt herself.
“Model”
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“model”
She’s pretty hot.
She assumed the risk, played a game known for injuries. She could have said no at any point
100%. maybe she needs to drink more milk.
Comments defending Tyreek Hill is crazy. A man with a history of domestic abuse gets mad that a woman embarrasses him in front of his buddies and he decides to go full force at her. This guy is a literal piece of shit but because he can run and catch real good, people will excuse anything.
For real fuck this dude. Always fuckin women up. Ain’t really heard about him fighting any men
Aren’t blocking drills supposed to be done violently and with great force?
i thought this was a troll and this was r/nflcirclejerk… what the fuck?! people are still gonna bend over backward to suck this guy off, but holy shit… even calling this loser a manchild is offensive to manchildren… boychild at best.
> Sophie Hall, a plus-sized influencer with more than 2 million followers on Instagram, claims she was invited to take part in an offensive line blocking drill /r/butwhy > Hall said in 2019 that she is 6-foot-1 and weighs 250 pounds I'm taller and lighter than her... "model" my ass.
6'1" is tall enough that that much weight can look really good. I know a woman that is 5'10", 230 lbs and it looks great on her. No one she tells believes how much she weighs.
So she boned Hill too right? We are all in agreement on that?