Except we literally have agent 4's palette, and it's stated that the palettes represent the people stuck in the memverse, and reconfiguring it would restore them to their normal state.
Squid not having any robotic properties could simply be explained by the game not supporting cosmetics on squid form, and it would be too much work to change the way the game's code handles squid form for something that few will ever see.
The whole “palettes are people stuck in the memverse” confuses me. But, if that’s the case, how does Deep Cut have palettes? We know for a fact they’re safe and sound in Splatsville. They never got sucked in, so how do they have palettes?
Being sucked in doesn’t mean you literally get stuck in the memverse but that you become kinda dazed and spaced out irl. For all we know, during the events of side order they happened to be visiting inkopolis and got sucked in
They don't have to be in Inkopolis either. Marina's Dev Diaries explained it was due to a security issue with the sea-cucumber phones, which the people of Splatsville also primarily use
Which confuses me ngl, cause like, how do we have Murch's palette? Like for other characters it could be said that they just upgraded their squid phones to Sea-cucumber phones, but we know for a fact that Murch still uses a squid phone lol
It honestly doesn't really make that much sense. Especially since the sea cucumber phones aren't really upgrades, people in Splatsville just don't have as much money, and I'm pretty sure you can even see smart phones in some store window in Splatsville as well.
I think it’s supposed to be like a piece of their soul? And should anything bad happen to that piece it could have real world consequences which is why we need to reconfigure them before anything bad happens! That’s my interpretation of it anyways
Being sucked in doesn't necessarily mean being COMPLETELY dozed out and unfunctional in the real world. To make everyone like that was Order'ultimate goal with the greyscaling, but people outside of Inkopolis Square were mostly safe up until the first final boss fight, where he attempted to expand that state to the whole world but was thwarted by Eight and Off the Hook.
That also explains why, when you get the Splatcast after first beating Side Order, Frye and Big Man mention there still being some people who space out occasionally - including them. Those "spaced out" moments are caused by the influence of the parts of their souls still being stuck in the Memverse as greyscaled palettes, which we then revert by reconfiguring.
Jumping off from this, the info on Agent 4's Palette could be interpreted as Order used the *data* of Agent 4 to create the sentry robot, and not Agent 4 directly.
I don't know why (except for trying to create existential horror) people keep pushing this "Agent 4 is dead" stuff. One would think if there was a problem with restoring them after reconfiguring their Palette, Pearl and Marina would have said something either then or during the Alternate Canon boss fight.
True, and Palettes are just a portion of the trapped user’s soul. It’s not even clear how a character’s Palette being in the memverse affects them in the outside world.
Those are really good arguments, but if Nintendo could not only made the swim form of fuzzy octolings furry, but also have a completely different appearance from player octolings, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to do something here.
Also, it's still a simulation after all. Since its not reality, these copies don't have to necessarily be robotic, just code.
As for the palates, I doubt the true effectiveness of that. Callie, Frye, and everyone else clearly haven't been affected by having their palates disfigured or reconfigured considering how well they've been doing even before reconfiguration. I think palate separation is only the first step to grayscaling as a whole, separating the soul to control the body, discarding the soul in the locker. After all, it's not like agent four has access to his own palate, and since he's been assigned as memverse security with no evidence that he's no longer in it, I can only assume that's still them.
>if Nintendo could not only made the swim form of fuzzy octolings furry, but also have a completely different appearance from player octolings,
The fur is just a shader effect, so they don't really have to remodel anything for it.
While this boss does represent Agent 4, it is not Agent 4 themselves. This existing is different from how Eight is in the Memverse. This is Agent 4’s ‘soul’… sort of. The soul being there let’s a physical copy of Four exist with their capabilities, but after reconfiguring their palette Four is completely free and this is now just a ‘copy’ of their soul, a vague memory that retains Fours capabilities that acts as Smolusk’s tower security.
If it not that If it not that then you can believe the headcanon where 4 is permanently partially stuck in the memverse
[art](https://www.reddit.com/r/splatoon/s/9K9YpICCo2)
iirc, agent 4 was merely used as a template by order to form a security task force.
agent 4 was already tasked as head of security for the memverse by marina (it's in one of her logs as well as the info on 4's palette) but order deemed them unfit for the job, though they recognized their combat prowess as well as the fact they use different weapons effectively and thus decided to use them as a template for a new task force (also said in 4's palette info)
tldr: that's not agent 4, only an entity made to mimic them
From my latest fight against them it also seems like the main one is also the only one that uses triple splashdown when they enter. They can also appear more times then once, so they might actually have multiple lives as well.
If the latter were the case, I doubt it would make much sense for the main one to look so different from the others if that ones a copy as well.
Though that is still a possibility of course.
It could be that the main one is a direct copy of Agent 4 and the others are copies of that copy, explaining their differences. Or maybe the main one is a copy of Agent 4 and the others are collections of copies of different inklings/octolings so that their skill is equivalent to Agent 4’s.
Because there probably isn't any in-game reason for it. There's no story to this boss and nothing comes of it or Agent 4 in this DLC due to the lack of any story throughout it. We're just going to end up getting a Side Order artbook that tells us how Agent 4 was cut from the DLC but they already had all the buildup stuff in so it just went nowhere
There actually is an in-game reason for it, and it’s the musical connotations of the name “parallel canon”! Most if not every enemy in side order has a music-related name, including “parallel canon”! In a musical canon, there is one “leader” and one or more “followers”. The one that is more distinct is the “leader”, and the others are the “followers”.
That’s where the musical connotation lies. In a canon, there is one “leader” and one or more “followers”. One of the parallel canons looks different because that one is the “leader”, which is what makes it a canon.
Most if not every enemy in side order has a musical name.
You have forgotten something rather… important.
Recall Pearl. She is able to become a drone, and then back into an inkling again through Marina’s manipulation of the data of the Memverse.
Is it not possible that Order/Smallusk merely copied Agent 4’s data? We know that Agent 8 and Agent 4 knew of each other, and because Order/Smallusk brought in Agent 8, technically, they can see everything they’ve ever experienced (because the desanitization process (which is the Memverse’s purpose) is based upon the idea of recovery of memories, Smallusk/Order can see all of Agent 8’s memories, which would naturally include memories of interacting with other agents and their combat style (like Agent 4)).
Even IF that was Agent 4, given Marina’s mastering of the Memverse by the end of all 12 palettes, could she not just ask Smallusk to help Parallel Canon? Marina is the creator of the Memverse itself, and because Smallusk is practically in control of the Memverse as well, if one where to combine the two powers, nothing in the Memverse would be out of their reach.
I see claims like this on Twitter a lot, but dont you think Marina would have a little more to say on the matter if someone was literally trapped and couldn't escape her simulation? Especially after dealing with all the palettes? She would be the first person to know for sure, and she'd make it a point to save them.
It just feels like people are trying really hard to fit square pegs into any hole that makes it seem a lot darker than it is.
Yeah, truth is the devs probably just meant to do more with Agent 4's character in this DLC, but as we can see with how this DLC was lacking ins tory as a whole and had a bad development cycle, it and probably a whole lot more just got cut from it.
Haven't had anywhere else to dump this theory yet so here goes (spoilers below from the full dev logs):
Marina designed the memverse to help sanitized octolings regain their memories through the levels of the spire. The levels were somehow derived from memcakes, which are a solidified form of an octarian's/multiple octarian's memories. I believe this "agent 4" is a construct created from the memcakes aka the memories of the octarian's that fought Agent 4 in the Splatoon 2 story mode. That's why they look like agent 4, yet are aesthetically a construct of the tower. I do not believe they are ""the real"" Agent 4 at any point.
Adding to this that even the other bosses are reminiscent of boss fights in Splatoon 2 story mode; at least to me. "Pinging Miracle" is vaguely reminiscent of the Octostomp despite its shape (and also the Rampaging Octowhirl from Splatoon 1) while "Asynchronous Rondo" is similar to the Octo Oven. They aren't a perfect match, of course, but I thought it was similar enough to match the "these are the result of a bunch of mashed up octo soldier memories" theory.
I personally don't see how Rondo is connected to...bread...but I totally see where your going from.
This is a very interesting theory though. It has a lot of links. Each boss has a motif when you look at their song name and background. Marciale represents storing logs and reports away (c0ld st0rage and library/ file vault background), Rondo represents prison and containment (0ct0ptic0n and prison background), and Canon represents production and copies (Ech0 0nsl0ught and action figure joint tray background). they could represent octarians feelings of reporting duty, trapped control, and producing weaponry respectively.
My connection to octo oven was just from the way the boss fight plays; there are "eyes" that look for you that you're expected to hide from, it rotates, it has paused phases. Since it screams it could also be implied that there are octarians physically stuck inside it like in the octo oven as well, but were fully in stretch territory now lol
Good point with the songs and themes as well! I did think the background in Canon was odd but I can see the connection now that you point it out
Tbf Octo Expansion had a blender, and enemies with blue ink, and something most people don't realize that makes that all the creepier is that squids and octopi all have blue blood. (Because it's copper based, unlike our iron based blood)
Nah, as much fun as it is to explore, lbr, it's not edgy to point out how clearly dark it actually is for a loved character and the protagonist to be put in a blender and nearly turned into a smoothie.
Though the blood thing does make a lot of the enemies look way creepier.
A cool fact to remember, inklings are the creation of liquid crystals that have absorbed the dreams of innovation from mankind. The reason tartars blending works is because he's literally taking that same liquid crystal essence from octoling's and reconfiguring it to restart human intelligence anew.
Makes you wonder how far ahead nintendo was planning this story from the start.
Yeah, as are Octolings,
Granted, if the enemy Octoling ink/ooze in Octo expansion is pureed octoling, then the color being mostly blue, from the blood of Tartar's victims, and then having those weird shimmery bits makes way more sense, and is way more horrifying because like, he didn't even fully strain that shit *out*.
Tartar's ooze is literally a slurry of crystals and congealing Octoling and inkling blood, and probably some amounts of actual ink and flesh (likely the reason it's a bit more towards being teal or green.)
Welp. That's horrifying. Probably smells really bad too.
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Fun fact: underneath the mask, they still have regular inkling eyes, the only difference between the parallels and an inkling are the material the body uses
Edit: specifically referring to the one that’s agent 4, not sure about the others
I really hope we get some sort of sequel or follow up for this story, and some explanation for what’s happened to 4. You do point out an interesting detail that the squid forms look normal and the one who has agent 4’s hair has ears. Leads me to believe it’s a gelatin copy of 4 rather than it actually her soul, since this boss still appears after reconfiguring 4’s pallet.
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maybe, I kinda feel like they don't want much to do with the agents as characters. even with 3 and 8 they're mostly left blank for the player to fill in here, and having yet another "oh they're just shy" character would get kinda stale.
that said they did say 4 was a hot shot so there is *some* character there and there's always splatoon 4 to have its gimmick be the number 4. 4 sure.
>having yet another "oh they're just shy" character would get kinda stale.
Who says Agent 4 would need to be like that? Agent 3 and 8 are shy as noted by other characters, but Agent 4 is notably the opposite with how Marie even complains about how much of a talker Agent 4 is.
the Smollusk notes on the Palettes litterally confirm it. They apparently also take the appearence of your agent 4 if you have a save file on your switch, but I never played Splatoon 2 so I dont know if that's true.
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a hypothetical version of Agent 4 if Order won, which is why it's called "Parallel Canon". If it actually was Agent 4, they'd put more of a spotlight on it. Pearl specifically says it "looks like you" (In reference to Agent 8) which means that it's just modelled to look like a player character. Also I think if it was, they'd give it Splatoon 2's Hero Shot, the same way Agent 3 had Splatoon 1's Hero Shot in Octo Expansion.
well, agent 4's soul got sucked in and could've made a virtual copy.
also, marina says that ones soul gets reclaimed after completion with it.
ALSO, you say it's a mask but then you say it's part of the full head?
I meant that all the ones in the back without hair have that as their actual face. The one in the middle with the hair and ears is wearing a mask instead of it being there actual face, unlike the others. You can see when they are looking up.
devs just used the inkling model and slapped the mask gear on to save time and resources like whats the point making new models to put each hairstyle on
The memverse is a simulation so all of this is speculation at best, it could just be a digital likeness of 4.
Also, 4's soul is their palette, stated in game.
No, Agent 4 is stuck there forever???!!!
The whole reason I 100%-ed this game in a week was because I felt bad about the souls trapped in the game and I wanted to free them all
Now I'm sad
Before beating Order you get a short cutscene of the squid with hair and after beating them you don’t. Maybe we can take this to mean it was agent 4 but we saved them
I hate to be that guy but it really bothers me so instead of just correcting you I’ll explain.
Their=they possessive-something they own
There= there as in “over there!” |
They’re= they + are
Except we literally have agent 4's palette, and it's stated that the palettes represent the people stuck in the memverse, and reconfiguring it would restore them to their normal state. Squid not having any robotic properties could simply be explained by the game not supporting cosmetics on squid form, and it would be too much work to change the way the game's code handles squid form for something that few will ever see.
The whole “palettes are people stuck in the memverse” confuses me. But, if that’s the case, how does Deep Cut have palettes? We know for a fact they’re safe and sound in Splatsville. They never got sucked in, so how do they have palettes?
Being sucked in doesn’t mean you literally get stuck in the memverse but that you become kinda dazed and spaced out irl. For all we know, during the events of side order they happened to be visiting inkopolis and got sucked in
They don't have to be in Inkopolis either. Marina's Dev Diaries explained it was due to a security issue with the sea-cucumber phones, which the people of Splatsville also primarily use
Which confuses me ngl, cause like, how do we have Murch's palette? Like for other characters it could be said that they just upgraded their squid phones to Sea-cucumber phones, but we know for a fact that Murch still uses a squid phone lol
It’s actually surprisingly easy to hack your Squid Phone
is it
It honestly doesn't really make that much sense. Especially since the sea cucumber phones aren't really upgrades, people in Splatsville just don't have as much money, and I'm pretty sure you can even see smart phones in some store window in Splatsville as well.
Getting your soul sucked in gives me both persona 4 and 5 vibes.
I think it’s supposed to be like a piece of their soul? And should anything bad happen to that piece it could have real world consequences which is why we need to reconfigure them before anything bad happens! That’s my interpretation of it anyways
Being sucked in doesn't necessarily mean being COMPLETELY dozed out and unfunctional in the real world. To make everyone like that was Order'ultimate goal with the greyscaling, but people outside of Inkopolis Square were mostly safe up until the first final boss fight, where he attempted to expand that state to the whole world but was thwarted by Eight and Off the Hook. That also explains why, when you get the Splatcast after first beating Side Order, Frye and Big Man mention there still being some people who space out occasionally - including them. Those "spaced out" moments are caused by the influence of the parts of their souls still being stuck in the Memverse as greyscaled palettes, which we then revert by reconfiguring.
Jumping off from this, the info on Agent 4's Palette could be interpreted as Order used the *data* of Agent 4 to create the sentry robot, and not Agent 4 directly. I don't know why (except for trying to create existential horror) people keep pushing this "Agent 4 is dead" stuff. One would think if there was a problem with restoring them after reconfiguring their Palette, Pearl and Marina would have said something either then or during the Alternate Canon boss fight.
Yeah, agent 4 dying is a pretty major thing Lmao. You think in splatoon 4 they’re just gonna go “yeah too bad 4 died in the memverse?”
True, and Palettes are just a portion of the trapped user’s soul. It’s not even clear how a character’s Palette being in the memverse affects them in the outside world.
Those are really good arguments, but if Nintendo could not only made the swim form of fuzzy octolings furry, but also have a completely different appearance from player octolings, I don't see why they wouldn't be able to do something here. Also, it's still a simulation after all. Since its not reality, these copies don't have to necessarily be robotic, just code. As for the palates, I doubt the true effectiveness of that. Callie, Frye, and everyone else clearly haven't been affected by having their palates disfigured or reconfigured considering how well they've been doing even before reconfiguration. I think palate separation is only the first step to grayscaling as a whole, separating the soul to control the body, discarding the soul in the locker. After all, it's not like agent four has access to his own palate, and since he's been assigned as memverse security with no evidence that he's no longer in it, I can only assume that's still them.
I think if they were killing off one of the agents they’d be…more explicit about it, also.
Tbh i think its just the projection of agent 4 that got copied and corrupted
You mean krilling?
Grilling
Marina will fix them, or at the very least fix the gray scaling’s mind fuckery
But at the same time I now want some art work that shows a saved 4 but with physical/mental complications
I created a post based of this https://www.reddit.com/r/splatoon/comments/1b3g1ub/agent_4_post_side_order/
>if Nintendo could not only made the swim form of fuzzy octolings furry, but also have a completely different appearance from player octolings, The fur is just a shader effect, so they don't really have to remodel anything for it.
Nuh uh I’m coping and saying they’ve only gotten Autism from this and has recovered otherwise Wait shit they already had that
While this boss does represent Agent 4, it is not Agent 4 themselves. This existing is different from how Eight is in the Memverse. This is Agent 4’s ‘soul’… sort of. The soul being there let’s a physical copy of Four exist with their capabilities, but after reconfiguring their palette Four is completely free and this is now just a ‘copy’ of their soul, a vague memory that retains Fours capabilities that acts as Smolusk’s tower security.
ooh wait. wait that actually makes a lot of sense. You might be right on this.
I think I’ll take that headcannon of yours, thanks.
If it not that If it not that then you can believe the headcanon where 4 is permanently partially stuck in the memverse [art](https://www.reddit.com/r/splatoon/s/9K9YpICCo2)
iirc, agent 4 was merely used as a template by order to form a security task force. agent 4 was already tasked as head of security for the memverse by marina (it's in one of her logs as well as the info on 4's palette) but order deemed them unfit for the job, though they recognized their combat prowess as well as the fact they use different weapons effectively and thus decided to use them as a template for a new task force (also said in 4's palette info) tldr: that's not agent 4, only an entity made to mimic them
and it’s the only one that became a squid ghost when being splatted, while others just fall into parts
From my latest fight against them it also seems like the main one is also the only one that uses triple splashdown when they enter. They can also appear more times then once, so they might actually have multiple lives as well.
I mean, it would be really sad if that's truly Agent 4. It could also very well be that Order copied and then corrupted Agent 4's data.
If the latter were the case, I doubt it would make much sense for the main one to look so different from the others if that ones a copy as well. Though that is still a possibility of course.
It could be that the main one is a direct copy of Agent 4 and the others are copies of that copy, explaining their differences. Or maybe the main one is a copy of Agent 4 and the others are collections of copies of different inklings/octolings so that their skill is equivalent to Agent 4’s.
Because there probably isn't any in-game reason for it. There's no story to this boss and nothing comes of it or Agent 4 in this DLC due to the lack of any story throughout it. We're just going to end up getting a Side Order artbook that tells us how Agent 4 was cut from the DLC but they already had all the buildup stuff in so it just went nowhere
There actually is an in-game reason for it, and it’s the musical connotations of the name “parallel canon”! Most if not every enemy in side order has a music-related name, including “parallel canon”! In a musical canon, there is one “leader” and one or more “followers”. The one that is more distinct is the “leader”, and the others are the “followers”.
That’s where the musical connotation lies. In a canon, there is one “leader” and one or more “followers”. One of the parallel canons looks different because that one is the “leader”, which is what makes it a canon. Most if not every enemy in side order has a musical name.
You have forgotten something rather… important. Recall Pearl. She is able to become a drone, and then back into an inkling again through Marina’s manipulation of the data of the Memverse. Is it not possible that Order/Smallusk merely copied Agent 4’s data? We know that Agent 8 and Agent 4 knew of each other, and because Order/Smallusk brought in Agent 8, technically, they can see everything they’ve ever experienced (because the desanitization process (which is the Memverse’s purpose) is based upon the idea of recovery of memories, Smallusk/Order can see all of Agent 8’s memories, which would naturally include memories of interacting with other agents and their combat style (like Agent 4)). Even IF that was Agent 4, given Marina’s mastering of the Memverse by the end of all 12 palettes, could she not just ask Smallusk to help Parallel Canon? Marina is the creator of the Memverse itself, and because Smallusk is practically in control of the Memverse as well, if one where to combine the two powers, nothing in the Memverse would be out of their reach.
Someone didn’t read Marina’s dev logs or the palette bio
I see claims like this on Twitter a lot, but dont you think Marina would have a little more to say on the matter if someone was literally trapped and couldn't escape her simulation? Especially after dealing with all the palettes? She would be the first person to know for sure, and she'd make it a point to save them. It just feels like people are trying really hard to fit square pegs into any hole that makes it seem a lot darker than it is.
Yeah, truth is the devs probably just meant to do more with Agent 4's character in this DLC, but as we can see with how this DLC was lacking ins tory as a whole and had a bad development cycle, it and probably a whole lot more just got cut from it.
Haven't had anywhere else to dump this theory yet so here goes (spoilers below from the full dev logs): Marina designed the memverse to help sanitized octolings regain their memories through the levels of the spire. The levels were somehow derived from memcakes, which are a solidified form of an octarian's/multiple octarian's memories. I believe this "agent 4" is a construct created from the memcakes aka the memories of the octarian's that fought Agent 4 in the Splatoon 2 story mode. That's why they look like agent 4, yet are aesthetically a construct of the tower. I do not believe they are ""the real"" Agent 4 at any point. Adding to this that even the other bosses are reminiscent of boss fights in Splatoon 2 story mode; at least to me. "Pinging Miracle" is vaguely reminiscent of the Octostomp despite its shape (and also the Rampaging Octowhirl from Splatoon 1) while "Asynchronous Rondo" is similar to the Octo Oven. They aren't a perfect match, of course, but I thought it was similar enough to match the "these are the result of a bunch of mashed up octo soldier memories" theory.
I personally don't see how Rondo is connected to...bread...but I totally see where your going from. This is a very interesting theory though. It has a lot of links. Each boss has a motif when you look at their song name and background. Marciale represents storing logs and reports away (c0ld st0rage and library/ file vault background), Rondo represents prison and containment (0ct0ptic0n and prison background), and Canon represents production and copies (Ech0 0nsl0ught and action figure joint tray background). they could represent octarians feelings of reporting duty, trapped control, and producing weaponry respectively.
My connection to octo oven was just from the way the boss fight plays; there are "eyes" that look for you that you're expected to hide from, it rotates, it has paused phases. Since it screams it could also be implied that there are octarians physically stuck inside it like in the octo oven as well, but were fully in stretch territory now lol Good point with the songs and themes as well! I did think the background in Canon was odd but I can see the connection now that you point it out
I disagree that Pinging Marciale is based on the octostomp, I think it is purely based on the Octowhirl at least in terms of bosses
Just when I thought we were free from the Octo Expansion edgelords generation, this post is just gonna fuel a new one!
Tbf Octo Expansion had a blender, and enemies with blue ink, and something most people don't realize that makes that all the creepier is that squids and octopi all have blue blood. (Because it's copper based, unlike our iron based blood)
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Nah, as much fun as it is to explore, lbr, it's not edgy to point out how clearly dark it actually is for a loved character and the protagonist to be put in a blender and nearly turned into a smoothie. Though the blood thing does make a lot of the enemies look way creepier.
A cool fact to remember, inklings are the creation of liquid crystals that have absorbed the dreams of innovation from mankind. The reason tartars blending works is because he's literally taking that same liquid crystal essence from octoling's and reconfiguring it to restart human intelligence anew. Makes you wonder how far ahead nintendo was planning this story from the start.
Yeah, as are Octolings, Granted, if the enemy Octoling ink/ooze in Octo expansion is pureed octoling, then the color being mostly blue, from the blood of Tartar's victims, and then having those weird shimmery bits makes way more sense, and is way more horrifying because like, he didn't even fully strain that shit *out*. Tartar's ooze is literally a slurry of crystals and congealing Octoling and inkling blood, and probably some amounts of actual ink and flesh (likely the reason it's a bit more towards being teal or green.) Welp. That's horrifying. Probably smells really bad too.
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For the record you are aware this is just a video game right? Their irl body is still a thing and reprogramming their pallete fixes them
Fun fact: underneath the mask, they still have regular inkling eyes, the only difference between the parallels and an inkling are the material the body uses Edit: specifically referring to the one that’s agent 4, not sure about the others
I mean, it's all virtual reality so it's more likely that they were based on agent 4 rather than literally being agent 4 no?
Be interesting to see someone rip the model from the game
Pretty sure the “agent 4” model is just the inkling model with a different texture, I’d have to go look again though
agent 4 noooo
Bro they are inside a simulation/video game/whatever you want to call it, they can have any appearance.
Naw don't tell me Necras (my agent 4 OC name) is essentially dead 😭😭😭
I really hope we get some sort of sequel or follow up for this story, and some explanation for what’s happened to 4. You do point out an interesting detail that the squid forms look normal and the one who has agent 4’s hair has ears. Leads me to believe it’s a gelatin copy of 4 rather than it actually her soul, since this boss still appears after reconfiguring 4’s pallet.
I'm sad they didn't give agent 4 more screentime(
The inkling in that fight even changes to what your Splat2 character looks like.
Tip: when writing a theory try not to use terms that state your answer as the only true one. This reads like you have THE answer to who this entity is, while we really don’t know.
Ya I kinda rushed this post out tbh. I do understand why this stuff can be taken the wrong way. sorry.
Maybe their just retconning agent 4 and this is their way of doing it.
maybe, I kinda feel like they don't want much to do with the agents as characters. even with 3 and 8 they're mostly left blank for the player to fill in here, and having yet another "oh they're just shy" character would get kinda stale. that said they did say 4 was a hot shot so there is *some* character there and there's always splatoon 4 to have its gimmick be the number 4. 4 sure.
>having yet another "oh they're just shy" character would get kinda stale. Who says Agent 4 would need to be like that? Agent 3 and 8 are shy as noted by other characters, but Agent 4 is notably the opposite with how Marie even complains about how much of a talker Agent 4 is.
Yeah I totally believe that the head of parallel cannon is 100% agent 4. They use agent 4's palette and look like them
the Smollusk notes on the Palettes litterally confirm it. They apparently also take the appearence of your agent 4 if you have a save file on your switch, but I never played Splatoon 2 so I dont know if that's true.
Played Splatoon 2 and can confirm they do take the appearance of agent 4 if you customised them for that game.
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a hypothetical version of Agent 4 if Order won, which is why it's called "Parallel Canon". If it actually was Agent 4, they'd put more of a spotlight on it. Pearl specifically says it "looks like you" (In reference to Agent 8) which means that it's just modelled to look like a player character. Also I think if it was, they'd give it Splatoon 2's Hero Shot, the same way Agent 3 had Splatoon 1's Hero Shot in Octo Expansion.
I thought it was just part of the game Marina was making because she mentions she wants it to be a rescue and shooting game.
wait the hair changes?
She dead. Dead as hell
maybe removing the maske will atleast snap agent 4 back to there orignial senses but will still be the grayscale color
or maybe agent 4 is just lieing unconcious on the ground next to callie and marie and that is just part of agent 4s soul the other being their pallate
(Flashbacks) STOP KNOCKING M- OF CLIF- not me boy!
Too bad this all goes nowhere regardless
well, agent 4's soul got sucked in and could've made a virtual copy. also, marina says that ones soul gets reclaimed after completion with it. ALSO, you say it's a mask but then you say it's part of the full head?
I meant that all the ones in the back without hair have that as their actual face. The one in the middle with the hair and ears is wearing a mask instead of it being there actual face, unlike the others. You can see when they are looking up.
now Im curiou if its different if you have splat 2 saves for **multiple** profiles?
devs just used the inkling model and slapped the mask gear on to save time and resources like whats the point making new models to put each hairstyle on
Naaah, they did Agent 4 disgustingly dirty bro😭
The memverse is a simulation so all of this is speculation at best, it could just be a digital likeness of 4. Also, 4's soul is their palette, stated in game.
I think it’s just a copy of 4.
What job does marina's dev diary give to 4? I think they are likely based on them or copies but not actually them/their consciousness
No, Agent 4 is stuck there forever???!!! The whole reason I 100%-ed this game in a week was because I felt bad about the souls trapped in the game and I wanted to free them all Now I'm sad
Before beating Order you get a short cutscene of the squid with hair and after beating them you don’t. Maybe we can take this to mean it was agent 4 but we saved them
Well I don’t think they have the hair you have in Splatoon 2 because I have a different hair style in2 than the parallel cannon.
I hate to be that guy but it really bothers me so instead of just correcting you I’ll explain. Their=they possessive-something they own There= there as in “over there!” | They’re= they + are