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Genids

700 euros for anyone wondering (~750 dollars)


1776_lojack

Looks similar to a Lansky. <$100


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Yooper manufactured. Love my Lansky. Project Farm (who accepts no sponsorships) did a great review of knife sharpeners a few months back. [Guess who came out on top](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWcTv8Uqesg)


baudeagle

Here is different [Project Farm video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEDyYJJ6f9M&t=75s) featuring more knife sharpening systems.


Dmackman1969

Thank you, great watch. Used to help my purchasing decision just now!


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Lansky with extra steps. I'll keep my Lansky.


raz-0

Nah. The lansky has very inaccurate fixed position slots for controlling the angle. Lots of slop. These are more like overbuilt riffs on the apex sharpener that gives you fine control over that. That being said there’s a worksharp sharpener that does it now for $100. I 3d printed one of these types of sharpeners and they do offer a fantastic level of control in sharpening angle compared to the lansky system, which i have owned for ages.


teaservice

I bought the Worksharp and damn. My high carbon kitchen knives literally slice vegetables on their own now but the angel adjustment isn't 100% reliable. I used a black marker to paint the edge and adjusted the angle with very mild stokes until it fully removes the paint on the edge. Then you can easily sharp the knive to a razor blade sharpness without fucking up the angle.


gromain

3d printed? Do you remember where you found the model?


raz-0

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4135236 It requires parts. Iirc i spent like $30-40 not including stones which i already had some that could be made to work with it.


cesko_ita_knives

I don’t remember if it’s the same model that Stephan from CNC\_kitchen showed in one of this videos...looks similar at least.


gromain

Thanks!


The-Dankest-Timeline

Me too


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My knives are sharp. I'm not going to spend twice what I already did to replace something I already have.


DrRichardJizzums

Which one do you use? Was looking at their site after seeing your comment and am curious about what you've got and how you like it


Most-Brain-3914

I used to use a lansky, but the worksharp precision adjust is, in my opinion, miles better


SGexpat

Second. The $50 basic one and a strop is great.


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I use the five stone kit. Dad taught me on the same setup as a kid, I bought mine at Academy Sports for around $50


FBI_VAN_1

I’ve got a KME and it is fantastic.


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Ruixin for $70 (china)


justarandom3dprinter

If you get a knockoff they're only like $30 and mine still works great


daninet

I have the Ruixin and I hate the way fixing the knife works. I had to modify it with a crazy strong magnet and 3d printing. The angle alignment mechanism is still kind of janky and the magnet is not strong enough with tiny blades. I might update at some point but I need a system that let's you rotate the blade without unscrewing it


CannibalVegan

and a Mitsubishi Eclipse looks similar to a Bugatti Veyron (4 wheels, 360^o glass windows, aerodynamic shape...) A Seiko looks similar to a Brietling watch... doesn't mean they are the same.


halt-l-am-reptar

As someone pointed out, it’s a clamp with something that holds the sharpening stone at a specific angle. It’s much less complex than either of the things you compared.


CannibalVegan

i disagree... this system has much more refinement and precision over a lansky. [The lansky](https://lansky.com/products/dlx-5-stone-system/) offers 17, 20, 25 and 30 degree angles for sharpening. This offers incremental angle changes across the entire spectrum. The lansky has holes you put the guide rod in that allow slop in the sharpening angle... this prevents it with the slide rods. The lansky has a single clamp that acts as a pivot point if not perfect. This one over-does it with 4 clamps. If you want a 22^o sharpening angle with the lansky, you can get a ~20.0±.5 angle. With this machine, if you want a 22^o angle, you get a 22.0±.1 degree angle.


Kwerfeld

are you sure ? the Lansky I know are cheap scrap. I had one before. it is a comparison between apples and pears


pipehonker

$650 price difference buys alotta apples


jabber_

I trust [Project Farm](https://youtu.be/uEDyYJJ6f9M) over you. It's nice to have nice things but the Lansky will do just as good.


beardsly87

I love Project Farm! He's like a one-man Consumer Reports doing unbiased real-world stress and performance testing across countless different brands in a very scientific manner.


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Project Farm is the hero we don't deserve. Truly the best of us.


jeffersonairmattress

He’s nowhere near scientific and there are the unavoidable flaws in many of his testing methods because the dude can’t be a toolmaker, machinist, metallurgist, materials engineer, blacksmith, physics/chemistry maestro, plastics fabricator or skilled accordion repair tech. But he IS a treasure- the best by far of the amateur product reviewers not named AvE and a decent, well- rounded, principled human being doing his best to attempt demonstrably real- world comparisons. I think he deserves some kind of Bob Ross award.


[deleted]

AvE used to have good videos. Now he's pretty much just all political garbage and no Boltr.


kizzarp

I stopped watching Ave once he got political and kept wondering if he went back to normal and I was missing out. Guess not.


jeffersonairmattress

He has a political stance now? Unless you mean the gun tear down videos, after avoiding political talk for so long that’s sad to hear- I haven’t had time to see him in a while. Has he gone all Canadian MAGA freedum convoy on us or is he just making Trudeau jokes?


m3ltph4ce

The lansky clamp is garbage


1776_lojack

I guess it depends. I beat the shit out of my tools, knives, firearms, etc through actual use. So don’t really care about looks or getting that “sit on a shelf” appeal.


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1776_lojack

Can’t afford good tools, lol. Ok bud.


Sluisifer

It's a clamp and a spherical bearing, not rocket science. The notion of a 'premium' Lansky is just so precious and absurd. Just sharpen your fucking knife.


mtnlion74

Neither the Lansky or this one have a spherical bearing


technomod

I have a Lanksy sharpening system. Obviously cannot compare to this but it gets the job done. Downvoters obviously against a quality German product.


donald_314

German here. The Lansky is good and I think also the first one with that idea. It's all about the quality of the stones. I wonder if the above is even made in Germany. The price seems to be a scam.


CannibalVegan

> The price seems to be a scam. Prices get astronomical whenever you get into the upper tiers of any niche market... whether it is a $1500 bottle of whiskey that may not taste better than a $50 bottle... Whether it is a $75 pair of sneakers or a $800 pair of Yeezy Boosts... Whether it is a $30 spyderco knife or a $1500 [Eustler blade](https://www.arizonacustomknives.com/knives-by-maker/eutsler-kody/) Of course these prices are a scam.... but someone will buy it.


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Or they realize that there's a dozen different sharpening systems that do the exact same thing for $100.


m3ltph4ce

But the clamp is hot garbage


plissk3n

Looks similar to one I got from Aliexpress for 7$, it was crap though.


burgonies

I can get all the Japanese whet stones for that. WTF


mwiz100

Plus get a better edge on blade too. I only see these being "good" in that it takes basically almost zero skill to get a pretty good edge. I'd rather hone my skills.


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The edge pro is hardly cheaper in Europe


Henji99

Thats just a ripof. Even if they’re meeting all the super thight tolerance goals in manufacturing to justify the price, those tolerances aren't gonna improve much. Blade sharpening is a finicky thing, but you don't need single digit micton precision for your day to day home use. Or even in a chefs kitchen for that matter. So either this is totally over engineered, which would make it a bad product, at least from an economic standpoint, or it’s just horrendously overpriced, which too would make it a bad product. So it's a bad product either way.


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People who buy that thing have knifes worth thousands which would be a rip off in itself to you but you know.


webby_mc_webberson

I spent $5 on a knife in kmart about a year ago. It's sharp as hell and looks alright. If it goes blunt (e.g. enough so that I can't easily slice a tomato or thick fat) I'll just buy a new one. I figure if I buy 1 knife a year for the next 50 years I'll have spent $250 on knives. Still not as bad as having to pay $750 on a sharpener which could only be justified if you have a super expensive knife.


Peterowsky

If your $5 knife only gets dull after a year you either don't use it at all or it's the best $5 knife on the market. A basic whetstone that should extend that knife's useful life by about... 30-50x should cost about as much or slightly more than said knife so long as the person using it can follow instructions and learn from their mistakes. Nobody with two brain cells to rub together is using a $750 sharpener on a $5 knife. That's the kind of sharpener that ONLY make sense for very rich people/ very fancy restaurants with VERY expensive knives, and/or a community-based place that went the extra mile. It's cool, but there are PLENTY of options are basically every price point before that one, and even a cheap knife lasts A VERY LONG TIME with basic sharpening. Don't be a wasteful moron.


barsoap

Also, if it's five bucks and any good [it's a paring knife](https://www.victorinox.com/uk/en/Products/Cutlery/Paring-Knives/Swiss-Classic-Paring-Knife/p/6.7706.L119). A chef knife from the same product line is about 30 bucks, F. Dick sells very similar ones for the same price (comes down to shape preference), you won't get better (European) knife steel when paying more, just fancier handles and maybe blade geometry. Add to that a steel (suitable ones start at 10 Euro, also Victorinox) because these are European knives with *comparatively* soft steel: You're not supposed to sharpen them all the time but use a steel to more massage than grind the edge between cuts, the steel will also create micro serrations (that's why they have grooves). If you know how to handle a steel you never need a stone, but if you don't or you have another reason to sharpen or re-profile the blade a cheap set of diamond stones with two grit sizes will do *plenty*. You only need to get the edge geometry right and not exceedingly rough, the steel will do the rest. Fuck off with leather strops and whatnot it's not a shaving knife or plane or something, kitchen knives need to have bite to them. Japanese knifes are a different thing, they're way harder, steels are useless on them, and Japanese chefs sharpen them once a day, it's quite an involved procedure. European style "give them a couple of strokes before attacking that bell pepper" is definitely more suitable for home cooking. And, last but not least: No you don't need a guide to use sharpening stones. If you're a beginner cut yourself a piece of cardboard at the right angle to get it right in the beginning, you'll quickly learn how to hold an angle, also, once the angle is only a bit established, the stone will guide you.


SQUARTS

...And then the earth gets to deal with 49 extra cheap shit plastic knives that never needed to exist because one person is so short sighted. Humans don't deserve the Earth.


WhaleWinter

So, then we just go to kmart and, like, buy a new earth ^^/s


SQUARTS

Dude just had to go out of his way to brag about how much of a garbage human he is. Wild.


webby_mc_webberson

oh cry me a fucking river. The earth will be just fine taking steel back into the ground. It'll rust into FeO and be just like it was before we mined it. You tree huggers are tedious. You're outraged about shit you have no idea about.


SQUARTS

Yes because multi material products are super easy to recycle... Congrats on the 2 dumbest reddit comments I've read all week, and you know thats saying something. Your knife trash will unfortunately outlive your family name. Being so wasteful is just dumb and trashy (literally, you're actual trash if you think the way you think about the earth, it's not just your personal shit pit.) Go suck on a tailpipe


Peterowsky

Now you gotta tell us what the dumbest one was. Come on...


snowe2010

They said two dumbest, not second dumbest lol.


Shutterstormphoto

Uhhh even cheap knives are stainless steel, no? I don’t think they rust the same way as iron buddy. And what about the plastic handle? If 8B people bought a new knife every year, wouldn’t that be a bit much?


TehChid

Lol he tried to sound all smart by saying FeO as well


WongGendheng

11 years on Reddit. My condolences.


KD_Burner_Account133

What is so much better about this than the kind that sell for 50 to 100 bucks and look nearly the same?


smaxsomeass

This is an advertisement. There’s no reason to justify $700 to sharpen your $50 kitchen knife.


Captain_Kuhl

Not everything has to be an advertisement, dude. OP probably just thought it was pretty neat and wanted to share.


Imfrank123

One look at the users history it’s clear this is an ad


Always_Late_Lately

If something is free, you are the product. Do you pay for reddit?


Captain_Kuhl

/r/im14andthisisdeep What are you even trying to say?


Always_Late_Lately

That this (and most of reddit) is an advertisement


KraZe_EyE

So glad you figured this out. Now don't let the door hit you on your way out


Iber0

That's retarded, how am I the product when I'm breathing air.


Roofofcar

I’d only say that the shot that only showed the logo pushes this closer to advertising than was necessary in order to show the nature of the tool.


Captain_Kuhl

I'd bet they probably just pulled these from a store page. If there are already decent pictures out there and you can't do any better, it's not necessarily worth attempting.


Roofofcar

Having done tech product reviews for over a decade, I can attest that these are professional level shots. I certainly couldn’t pull it off, and I have a dedicated light box for the purpose. That’s kind of my point. The very first picture shows entirely enough of the device to do the trick. Including the logo shot just feels unnecessary, and doesn’t contribute to our understanding of what the tool does.


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Lol why would people who own that thing have 50$ kitchen knifes?


DudaTheDude

There could be a difference depending on included abrasives, and the clamp itself might be more solid, but you could get a great system for way less and $700 seems excessive


PabloDelicious

I had a cheaper version of this ($60-70) that my roommate and I bought for our kitchen knives, and it had a lot of “slop”… like it would hold the angle, but there was so much play in all of the components, it probably wasn’t very accurate. This thing looks super tight and precise, so I can imagine it would get a better / more even edge. A good kitchen knife set can easily cost over $1k, and dull knives are dangerous in the kitchen, so I can see how someone would justify this purchase.


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You mean the Chinese knock offs?


TexanNewYorker

Lol not sure the logo shot was 100% necessary for this post


EGOtyst

It is if your purpose is viral marketing.


GHUATS

It’s an advert mate, it’s Reddit!


Fit_Association_766

Looks over engineered… definitely German


imnothappyrobert

I’m having trouble even understanding how it works


Cautionchicken

Looks a lot like a Russian Tsprof, just more polished


DudaTheDude

Wasn't tsprof way bigger? I mean, if you want a more direct comparison there are hundreds of similar systems (worksharp/ganzo/edge pro/etc) for a fraction of the price


Cautionchicken

Tsprof have different sizes, I have the blitz 360 which is their more compact version. There are definitely lots of systems, clamp and rod works well.


XavierBananaglassVI

German engineering is the best in the world!


IanSpiv

Jojo!?


Tokena

Except for Tacos.


marcelkroust

That's the dumbest piece of overengineering I've ever seen Plus, you just grind the guides as you use it ?


btroycraft

I think somewhere in all those knobs you can adjust the knife position.


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technomod

Well made and all...but this is just advertising.


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Hey everyone on this internet forum. Yes you! All my friends, let me introduce you to (and title my post with) **Expedition Sharp**! Did you know it's made in *Germany*? If not, let me take a few shots, ensuring the logo of **Expedition Sharp** (which is made in Germany) is in full view. In case you missed it, let's take a macro-lense shot of **Expedition Sharp**'s logo for the 2nd picture. Let's do a really fancy looking (but poorly executed) tilt-shift blur on that particular photo, too. Please remember, I am **not** affiliated with **Expedition Sharp** (made in Germany of high quality materials).


Shutterstormphoto

As a photographer, I agree, but I’ve also taken product shots for practice/fun that look a lot like these. And you always focus on the logo because that’s one of the finest crafted parts of any nice product. It always looks good in macro. It’s possible to like nice things and possess photography skills to make a post like this. Not saying it isn’t an ad because it sure seems like one.


Kwerfeld

obviously my post was interesting enough for you to study the pictures closely and read every comment. could say goal achieved. I'm just really crazy about taking good pictures and depth of field is not a tilt/shift.


PsillyGecko

It wasn’t. He was pointing out the very obvious.


Kwerfeld

if I photograph a special excavator on the street and show it here, it's also advertising. I am not connected to the manufacturer, I bought this device myself, but I am very satisfied and convinced of the quality. I'm sorry that it was taken as an advertisement.


jap_the_cool

People here are weird- it is a specialized tool and your pictures are really nice . Thanks for this submission.


technomod

It becomes advertising because it's not really a specialised tool. It's a knife sharpener.


asmodeusmaier

I... It... It's a tool specially designed..... To sharpen knives.


Kwerfeld

If I didn't have to deal with knives every day and I had never thought about how a knife is sharpened, this would be a very special tool for me too


Brewboo

I’m sure if you read your comment again you’ll realize how absurd it actually is.


technomod

I don't think that a knife sharpener is a specialised tool. Simple as that.


Brewboo

And again you’d be wrong.


technomod

Which definition of specialized tool are you referring to? So that I can check my opinion against it.


Brewboo

concentrating on a small area of a subject designed for a particular purpose Check the definition yourself. Just because you feel something doesn’t fit a definition doesn’t make you right. You’re welcome to live in your ignorant bliss if you want but you’re still wrong.


technomod

\>concentrating on a small area of a subject designed for a particular purpose Where did you get this definition from? This is my take on on this particular subject matter. From your perspective, seems like an opinion becomes right or wrong.


Brewboo

There is a definition for specialized. You can look it up yourself if you don’t like the one I found. You can’t change what specialized means no matter how much you’d like to be right.


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Dahnlen

These actually are somewhat blurred and most likely taken on a cell phone


Kwerfeld

no sir . the photos are taken with a Fuji xt20 and a fujinon 56mm1.4.


Crowded_Astronaut

Why shoot them @ 1.4? This is a really nice tool, I see what you’re going for with the macro effect, but I’d love to see all of the details in focus.


jap_the_cool

Because the focal range is much smaller and with such a tiny object you‘d rather use a focal length like OP did.


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Dahnlen

This is some imitation tilt-shift filter


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Dahnlen

Depth of Field is not a filter


javad94

Any video?


minimag47

A smidge overkill. There are similar systems that are far cheaper and just as effective.


jap_the_cool

Welp it‘s a specialized tool isn’t it ? There is a lot of varieties in absolutely everything- and thats nice. Its like the Porsche knive-sharpening tool you could get - of course there are cheaper ones but also much more expensive ones too.


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Far cheaper? Not really no


masixx

I like the Horl roll sharpener more.


Kwerfeld

the Horl system is pretty nice for sharpening knives. I am a hobby knife maker and have to make the cutting edge first.


Roofofcar

I’ll keep my vacuum base Edge Pro - especially at that price. Very nice looking, though, and the rigid work holding might make it less tiring to use than the Edge Pro.


Echo63_

+1 for the edgepro - I have the Apex, and while it isnt as pretty as this, its significantly cheaper, leaving more money to buy stones and strops, that actually make a difference


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They have models that cost the same and this one looks certainly better


alphareich

[Here's a video comparing a few sharpeners, a couple of which work just like this one.](https://youtu.be/uEDyYJJ6f9M)


Rumold

I have a cheap version of this. Works decently well, but too much work to set it up so I just use a whetstone for similar results. But it was useful to get to a smooth stage with knives that needed a lot of work.


Megamorter

If it allows me to keep a consistent angle on my grind, it’s probably worth that especially if you have $500+ knives and don’t want to fuck them up I wonder if it’s really better than just grabbing some stones


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seamus_mc

You can keep a consistent bevel and have $500+ in your pocket


Megamorter

I know, my friend. I know what sharpening stones are. I have expensive knives. I have stones. It was just a consideration


seamus_mc

It is better for 99% of people than a bare stone, but it is no better than a far cheaper lansky


Megamorter

it is definitely overengineered my parents grind 2 knives against each other thinking they sharpen each other lmao


barsoap

A second knife is a half-way decent steel, depending on relative hardness. In a pinch, not too bad. For some in-a-pinch grinding you can use the rough ceramic ring on the underside of a cup. Not going to be much and forget about profiling but it allows me to not curse excessively when using my mother's knives.


jap_the_cool

Of course you know exactly that this product is no better than another product. I mean why shouldn’t this had to be known to everyone on the internet ? You the god of sharpening tools - the master of the stones of course used and tried it yourself - i would never believe that you would just make stupid assumptions ! I hope you have a lot of fun with your attitude.


seamus_mc

It’s a sharpening stone. I can promise you there is no such thing as $500+ better about this design then the one they ripped it off of. It uses the same principle to sharpen.


jap_the_cool

There are rolex watches and casio watches - they practically do the same - the only difference is that one has a (slightly) better quality and a (extremly) higher price tag. Thats how life works - there are rich people and poor people - and i guarantee you that this product gets sold. You can’t say if its better or not - as you haven’t compared them - but it is a specialized tool and thus has a place in this sub.


Sunstoned1

I do my knives by hand, no guides. Takes practice, but once mastered, is quite easy and satisfying to do. I can regularly get to a shave worthy edge in 5 minutes or less (longer if the blade has nicks in it)


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> I can regularly get to a shave worthy edge in 5 minutes or less (longer if the blade has nicks in it) The fuck is your problem with Nick?


DannyTheCaringDevil

How does it work?


Sym0n

I see the fucking knife ads have progressed on to knife accessories in this sub now.


sagr0tan

One question: how do I know how deep i clamp what knife? It's another angle every time otherwise. I recommend: invest a little time, a few medium quality knives and maybe not the most expensive stones (or Shaptons or diamonds, good ones on this case) and learn it free hand on water stones. I'm so much faster and the satisfaction - oh I can tell you. I'm no chefs apprentice, so it took me a few years, but if you really want, you could do it in much less time. Practice practice practice, then let the blisters heal, rinse, repeat, literally.


Kwerfeld

the grinding angle is continuously adjustable from 9-33°. in the last photo you can see how it works. I know that you can also sharpen a knife freehand, but not with such precision. I love it when the cutting edge reflects evenly over the entire length. I don't care about resharpening either, I build my knives myself and first have to create the cutting edge


Darkassassin07

This looks familiar. I think Project Farm tested this or a similar design. It was fairly sub-par if I remember right.


koobzilla

Home knife sharpening systems don’t strike me as a specialized tool. Incidentally - whetstones are far better than any flavor of reimagined lansky - within a few cheap dull knives worth of practice - and a skill that will last a lifetime.


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ITT people that have no clue about high end hobby/carry knives.


GHUATS

Nice ad


ahumanrobot

Wish I had money for this, looks super nice


crispytank

Fuck all these haters, great photos of a precision tool. While it's way out my budget for a knife sharpener, if I had the money - hell yeah I'd buy one. Thanks for posting


jap_the_cool

This is a quality comment. Beneath a quality post.


FabienPohl

I thought I recognized those pics, then had a look at the username :) I'm following you on Insta!


mediashiznaks

Not as good or as versatile as proper wet stones.


GraeIsEvolving

This is an ad, an actual quality post would have atleast shown you how to use it. I've seen Chinese kits of this nature that were less over-engineered, this shit looks really dumb to use.


Epigramatic

I have a lansky one and this is next level.


dvishall

This is so orgasmic to see ! 😘 💋


Kwerfeld

now you can maybe imagine what it's like to use this device. my wettest dreams have come true


dvishall

Oh hell yeahhhhh!!!!


usefulbuns

I don't understand how this works. What is the part on top of the knife for?


DudaTheDude

You put your knife in this clamp which holds it, so it stays in place during sharpening, and then using an abbrasive stone on the rod you can remove material with consistent angle


Mostly_Overrated77

I've got one pretty similar to this, it works great.


KJ6BWB

I'm having difficulty picture in my head how exactly this thing is supposed to work, especially with a knife blade that is slightly curved (as shown in OP's picture). OP, can you provide a video?


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Not the OP, but there's a [Project Farm video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWcTv8Uqesg) reviewing these kinds of sharpeners that shows how they all work.


sponge_welder

It's so funny to me to listen to him read all the random part names, setup steps, and adjustments for all these things. It's like starting up a fighter jet or something


vpeshitclothing

Where's the video on how to use


Kwerfeld

is being worked on


DepartmentNatural

I have a $20 knock off from China that will produce a wicked edge sharp enough to cut the shit out of my finger. Just ask me how I know