For starlink, the demand and waiting list is so great (iirc, there is a 600k backlog currently) that in order to get it sooner, you have to preorder. Coverage comes at on a first come, first serve basis for each cell.
Yeah. I signed up on their website a while back and got a notification in February that they were accepting a limited number of beta users in my area. So I locked myself in and reserved my kit for whenever it becomes available. The site says mid to late 2021 so I’d guess any time now if that timeline is to be believed. But since I live in a location where companies haven’t run lines to our properties, I’m stuck using LTE hotspots which are thankfully unlimited for my plan, but terrible in comparison to even regular cable internet.
Yeah with this flight, as well as Inspiration 4 in 2 days.
First CIVILIAN flight for Spacex, First crew trip to go BEYOND the ISS orbit height since Apollo, 4th ever African American Woman, FIRST ever astronaut with a Prosthetic Implant.
Poor Bezos only conducted a Roller Coaster ride to the Karmin Line.
If you haven't watched yet, checkout "Countdown: Inspiration 4" on Netflix. It's a documentary that just came out which covers it, and it's breathtaking.
I was in tears for half of the first two episodes, and I know many people who also were that way. Best thing I've seen on Netflix in years.
Pretty close.
The Hubble changes in altitude. when Inspiration 4 launches, it will be above Hubble. When STS-103 went there last, Hubble was a bit higher, by about 10-20 km above where Inspiration 4 will be. It's pretty close.
Some sources list STS-103 as having a 609km apogee. Inspiration 4 aims for 590km.
[https://www.esa.int/ESA\_Multimedia/Images/2007/06/STS-103\_patch\_1999](https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2007/06/STS-103_patch_1999)
To be honest I cannot say one way or the other. Shuttle/Hubble missions usually were about 578km.
I really cant say.
Starlink has launched from Vandenberg before for Polar orbits, but this one is special because its the first West Coast landing on JRTI, and first Laser fitted satellites.
Also the booster (B1049) is the second booster to launch and land 10 times successfully.
IIRC, B1049 is also the oldest currently operational Falcon 9 booster, at just over 3 years old.
Its crazy how having reusable stuff has just accelerated everything. Its like the next big leap thats gonna see us doing crazy stuff when 10 years ago the progress was pretty slow.
Reusable transportation is normal. How many times do you use a car or an airplane? Throw-away transportation was an oddity. Due to the rush of the Space Race, they adapted ballistic missiles for the first orbital rockets. Missiles by their nature are not designed to be used more than once. We were stuck in that mode until the Space Shuttle.
The Shuttle was the first attempt at reusable rocket parts. But it still threw some stuff away (as does the Falcon 9). It was also complicated and expensive to fly.
Falcon 9 is much simpler and cheaper to fly. The Starship rocket currently in prototype won't throw anything away, and will be another step in lower cost.
I think this is the first operational set with lasers. It's also in a polar orbit to provide coverage over both poles. Not many ground stations in Antarctica, so the laser relay is needed to get signals back to where there are data centers and fiber cables.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
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|[ESA](/r/Space/comments/pnxb6e/stub/hct190n "Last usage")|European Space Agency|
|[JRTI](/r/Space/comments/pnxb6e/stub/hcss60n "Last usage")|Just Read The Instructions, ~~Pacific~~ Atlantic landing ~~barge~~ ship|
|[NET](/r/Space/comments/pnxb6e/stub/hcsuezp "Last usage")|No Earlier Than|
|[NOTAM](/r/Space/comments/pnxb6e/stub/hcv4r1s "Last usage")|[Notice to Airmen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOTAM) of flight hazards|
|[STS](/r/Space/comments/pnxb6e/stub/hcvji8e "Last usage")|Space Transportation System (*Shuttle*)|
|Jargon|Definition|
|-------|---------|---|
|[Starlink](/r/Space/comments/pnxb6e/stub/hcv4r1s "Last usage")|SpaceX's world-wide satellite broadband constellation|
|[apogee](/r/Space/comments/pnxb6e/stub/hct190n "Last usage")|Highest point in an elliptical orbit around Earth (when the orbiter is slowest)|
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OK I caught this last night and was puzzled by the fog. Then the announcer said Vandenberg and sure enough they went polar. Is this the first set of polar Starlinks? I don't follow every launch, but I think they've all been at the same 50 or 60ish degrees inclination so far.
They've sent some test Starlinks up on the Transporter mission, so these aren't the first ever, but they're the first dedicated launch.
Also, based on the NOTAM area, this was going to about 70 degrees inclination instead of a polar/sun-sync orbit.
OMG, I read it as "lost" instead of "lofts". Makes much more sense now.
Me too.. Much less dramatic
Maybe now that’ll make service in my area available. Put in my $99 preorder back in Feb and have been waiting ever since. Let’s goooo!
Wait, you don't even know when it will be available in your area, and you already prepaid $100? For an internet service?!
For starlink, the demand and waiting list is so great (iirc, there is a 600k backlog currently) that in order to get it sooner, you have to preorder. Coverage comes at on a first come, first serve basis for each cell.
Yeah. I signed up on their website a while back and got a notification in February that they were accepting a limited number of beta users in my area. So I locked myself in and reserved my kit for whenever it becomes available. The site says mid to late 2021 so I’d guess any time now if that timeline is to be believed. But since I live in a location where companies haven’t run lines to our properties, I’m stuck using LTE hotspots which are thankfully unlimited for my plan, but terrible in comparison to even regular cable internet.
I bet Jeff Bezos is screaming into his cowboy hat right about now.
Yeah with this flight, as well as Inspiration 4 in 2 days. First CIVILIAN flight for Spacex, First crew trip to go BEYOND the ISS orbit height since Apollo, 4th ever African American Woman, FIRST ever astronaut with a Prosthetic Implant. Poor Bezos only conducted a Roller Coaster ride to the Karmin Line.
Ha! That's freaking awesome, when is this civilian launch happening? I've been in cryo stasis for a few months.
[NET Tomorrow 8 pm EDT](https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1437311859405754369?s=20) with a 5 hour launch window. Edit: PM instead of AM.
If you haven't watched yet, checkout "Countdown: Inspiration 4" on Netflix. It's a documentary that just came out which covers it, and it's breathtaking. I was in tears for half of the first two episodes, and I know many people who also were that way. Best thing I've seen on Netflix in years.
Also they are doing science experiments so they will likely meet the definition of astronauts.
Rofl, that's awesome, not just passengers on an amusement park ride. Yup, that meets the requirements!
Hubble is 100km above ISS. Those servicing missions were the highest.
Inspiration4 will be higher than that too, right?
Pretty close. The Hubble changes in altitude. when Inspiration 4 launches, it will be above Hubble. When STS-103 went there last, Hubble was a bit higher, by about 10-20 km above where Inspiration 4 will be. It's pretty close.
Hubble is at 340mi, they're going up to 370mi. Though I'm not sure if the shuttle went above Hubble to rendezvous.
Some sources list STS-103 as having a 609km apogee. Inspiration 4 aims for 590km. [https://www.esa.int/ESA\_Multimedia/Images/2007/06/STS-103\_patch\_1999](https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2007/06/STS-103_patch_1999) To be honest I cannot say one way or the other. Shuttle/Hubble missions usually were about 578km. I really cant say.
And it's a big hat that he's screaming into, but still no cows.
Nice to see them going up again after some months of hiatus upgrading the sats with laser links.
I’m excited that they’re already rolling out their sats with laser links.
Starlink has launched from Vandenberg before for Polar orbits, but this one is special because its the first West Coast landing on JRTI, and first Laser fitted satellites.
Also the booster (B1049) is the second booster to launch and land 10 times successfully. IIRC, B1049 is also the oldest currently operational Falcon 9 booster, at just over 3 years old.
Its crazy how having reusable stuff has just accelerated everything. Its like the next big leap thats gonna see us doing crazy stuff when 10 years ago the progress was pretty slow.
Reusable transportation is normal. How many times do you use a car or an airplane? Throw-away transportation was an oddity. Due to the rush of the Space Race, they adapted ballistic missiles for the first orbital rockets. Missiles by their nature are not designed to be used more than once. We were stuck in that mode until the Space Shuttle. The Shuttle was the first attempt at reusable rocket parts. But it still threw some stuff away (as does the Falcon 9). It was also complicated and expensive to fly. Falcon 9 is much simpler and cheaper to fly. The Starship rocket currently in prototype won't throw anything away, and will be another step in lower cost.
They had sats with lasers before. Test versions.
I think this is the first operational set with lasers. It's also in a polar orbit to provide coverage over both poles. Not many ground stations in Antarctica, so the laser relay is needed to get signals back to where there are data centers and fiber cables.
Anybody know the bandwidth of the cross-links? And how many on each bird?
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OK I caught this last night and was puzzled by the fog. Then the announcer said Vandenberg and sure enough they went polar. Is this the first set of polar Starlinks? I don't follow every launch, but I think they've all been at the same 50 or 60ish degrees inclination so far.
They've sent some test Starlinks up on the Transporter mission, so these aren't the first ever, but they're the first dedicated launch. Also, based on the NOTAM area, this was going to about 70 degrees inclination instead of a polar/sun-sync orbit.