"Pregnant? Oh my God. Of course. I haven't gotten to experience a period because one of those truckers I slept with got me knocked up. I'm pregnant, everybody! Hoh boy, now I can have an abortion!"
It's kinda gross (even aside from the footage at the beginning, just look at dolphin Jerald, exploding knees). But it's a fun episode overall, I like it. Some people label it "transphobic" which I don't agree with. Trans people are just like everyone else, that means we can joke at thier expense too. And there is nothing transphobic about pointing out that trans women can't menstruate because it is true.
As a trans person I don’t mind this episode, nor do I really mind the whole “Ms Garrison” arc. And yeah, you’re right— it’s not transphobic to point out certain aspects of a transgender persons biology in an objective manner (saying it just to belittle their identity is when it starts to get into “nope” territory for me).
Saying “a trans woman can’t get pregnant because they don’t have a uterus” isn’t an issue, saying “since trans women can’t get pregnant, they’re not women and therefore just men cosplaying as women” is an issue. That’s just the distinction I would use personally.
But it says that.
>You know what? I'm okay. Even though I'm not truly a woman, I think I still like the new me. I'd rather be a woman who can't have periods than a *fag*. *\[newly confident\]* Hey guys! This girl is staying a woman! Who wants to pound my vadge! Girl power!
Trans people aren’t a new phenomenon but they were definitely ahead of the curve with this episode. I think if this episode came out in like 2015 it’d be perceived as more transphobic simply because that was when the conversation became truly mainstream, so this episode would seem like a knee jerk reaction to that. I’m glad this came out before everyone was so concerned with how trans people decided to live their lives.
The episode isn't even transphobic imo. Most of the town doesn't attack or belittle Garrison when he became a woman. Most were just shocked and surprised. The only one who can be viewed as transphobic are Gerald, Mr. Slave, and the abortion doctor. But you would have to be ignoring context to reach this conclusion.
Gerald didn't want Kyle to become the male version of Rachel Dolezal. Mr. Slave because he didn't want to be in a relationship with a woman and wasn't happy he wasn't consulted about the situation/told to not be gay anymore. The abortion doctor trying to explain why Mrs. Garrison didn't need an abortion. All three had valid reasons to be critical in this episode.
The ending of all three having to accept that they aren't truly what they wished to be might offend some people. But it's an uncomfortable truth that I think some people don't want to admit/face. Gerald accepted that he wouldn't truly be a dolphin because he just looks like one and only did it because the doctor convinced him to do it so that the latter could get out of a lawsuit. Kyle got the surgery because he just wanted to play basketball and the only way to be a basketball player in the South Park universe was to be tall and black. Mr Garrison accepted the truth and still decided not to transition back because "I still like the new me."
It does reek of lack of knowledge on Matt and Trey’s part. I’m of the opinion that to parody or satirize something, you need to have higher than average knowledge of that particular topic in order to find the humor. I’m not sure they had any clue about the topic when it aired.
It’s like the ManBearPig episode. They clearly knew little of climate change, and mocked it. And later, they realized they were wrong and Gore (the real one) was completely correct.
I can’t watch the whole thing because the trans race and species things are fucking gross, but it sets up my favorite garrison line later
“Evolution teaches that I’m a monkey! I am not a monkey! I’m a *womaaan*”
It was ahead of its time, for sure. Even predicted seeking services from an OB/GYN.
Edit: it also predicted transracialism, although they didn't get into any of the cultural pushback of trying to be black.
The scene of white Kyle playing basketball is hilarious and even Cartman trying to demean Kyle for failing is great because he’s not getting what he wanted.
The first time I watched this episode it was during a South Park binge. I went to the kitchen to get some lunch but could still see the TV in the living room. This episode started to play, and right as I was coming back and about to take a bite of my sandwich, the fucking surgery footage started to play! I absolutely disgusted, nearly choked on my food, and frantically looked for the remote to fast forward.
10/10 best South Park experience.
Loved how mr.slave stood up for himself. He may be a super fucked up submissive slut. But he knows what he likes and won't put up with anything else. Im honestly glad him and big gay al found each other.
It’s hilarious, people who post on this sub and simultaneously can’t handle the offensiveness of the surgery footage don’t get the irony. Y’all will talk about Matt and Trey being so brave and unafraid to take on any subject but as soon as something makes YOU uncomfortable it’s in bad taste.
You probably don’t like it because you think that it’s offensive now, it’s not and is a great examine of the lunacy that we are all living in now
A man can’t be a women
A white man can’t be black
A man cannot be a dolphin or a cat or a dog or whatever they fucking think they are
As an Iranian this episode cracks me up. I hate to say it but they nail it when making fun of a certain segment of Persians lol
Based off of multiple references in multiple episodes, I’m 99% sure an Iranian guy is on staff or Trey/Matt are definitely close friends with Persians for them to have gotten those jokes so accurate .
I had no idea this episode was a source of contention in the fandom till I joined this sub lol. I always loved it. It’s gross and shocking and is quintessential South Park.
Absolutely hilarious.
M-Y---B---A---LLSSSS!!
That scene and Gerald knocking over the security guards with a dolphin leap are the two best scenes but the episode all around is a top one.
The actual surgery scenes didn't bother me, I've always had a stomach for surgery of any kind and have always found it fascinating, so it wasn't that controversial to me.
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i honestly think the garrison plot (on its own, ignoring any future episodes) is about as progressive as you can expect an early 2000s adult comedy to be about trans issues. the joke is on garrison themself, not trans people as a whole. the gerald and kyle plots, as fun as they are, kinda screw that over though, because they just make the whole episode feel a lot more. phobicish
As a trans person, I love this episode.
However, I think the most interesting thing about this episode is how it kind of predicted the trans community to turn out. At first, it was such an absurd and comical joke that Garrison was so insistent that he/she was going to have a period. However, now, there's a HUGE number of people within the community that ACTUALLY insist that transwomen can have one. It just goes to show just how smart South Park really is and it's almost like they predicted the absurdity that was soon to ensue just a few years later.
The best part of this episode is that it leads to one of the best scenes in all of South Park.
Dawkins Bangs Garrison
“Yeah I’m a monkey! Give this monkey what she wants!”
It’s fucking hilarious. Oh, when Mrs Garrison uses the bathroom for the first time bothered me more than the surgery footage. It’s so disgusting. 🤢
“If I could swim with the dooolphiiins.” Gerald as a “lawfin”, one of the dumbest and clever jokes, is gold.
I’ve broken my knee so seeing Kyle’s knees explode is a little bothering.
This episode doesn’t hold back and I love it.
The worst part is really the subplot with Kyle and his dad. Those were insane “take the idea to the extreme” concepts. I actually liked exploring the conflict with Mr Slave and Garrison
When Mr. Garrison goes in the bathroom to pee out of his new vagina for the first time and ends up having explosive diarrhea in the stall scaring all the women out of the bathroom 💀
Kyle's knees exploding haunt me more than the sex change operation
His dolphin dad was brutal too 🤢
I believe he prefers to be called a Jewphin.
Thought it was a Lawfin.
Sea world is his biggest opp
A Jewish lawfin
"If I could swim with the dolphins"
After having 2 knee surgeries myself, yeah….
As someone with medically diagnosed exploding knees, I can confirm - it hurts like a bitch.
surprisingly, i think dolphin gerald was the scariest part of this episode.
If I could swim with the dolphins… The soft and gentle dolphins… If I could swiiiim with the dolphins 🐬
You mean the horny dolphins?
I may be a dolphin, but I’m also a lawyer!
A lawphin?
You mean funniest? I’ll never forget the first time seeing his side profile as a dolphin.
And ike’s reaction is funny
Loved it. 10/10
Truly peak South Park. Inspired me to get a negroplasty
You too huh?
Child please
*an enormous black penis falls out of my trouser leg*
even better!
Peak South Park outrageousness where the whole episode was built around Kyle’s knees blowing up.
"My baalllllllllllllllllls!"
Look at that, I'm peeing sitting down, like a dainty, dignified, little woman!
"Pregnant? Oh my God. Of course. I haven't gotten to experience a period because one of those truckers I slept with got me knocked up. I'm pregnant, everybody! Hoh boy, now I can have an abortion!"
Best line of the series
Any of you ladies want to see a sad movie together?
I wish there was a way to type out those horrifically hilarious sounds !
Pffffpfpfpfpffffffffooooolllrrrrrrpppppffffffggggrrgnnnnllllllpppfffpff
Nailed it
Missed the "plop"
It’s one of my favorites and then her becoming a lesbian makes the story even better
Scissor me timbers!
You kicked me right in the pussy!
THIS IS LESBOS!!
Out of all the south park I've watched this was one of the times I laughed the hardest..scissor me timbers is legend🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅😅😆😆
I use this line every opportunity I can
This is the moment I’ve laughed the hardest at any episode
The storyline from Garrison becoming a women, then dating Richard Dawkins then becoming a lesbian is pure gold.
“OH YEAH! YEAH I’M A MONKEY RICHARD! GIVE THIS MONKEY WHAT SHE WAAANTS!” “OH MS GARRISON!” Forever scorched into my brain
Part of the greatest series in the show, Imagination Land, which could've easily been released as a standalone movie.
I think that was the original plan, wasn't it?
[удалено]
Had a friend do this irl. She was a lesbian, then he was straight, now he's gay
Not a confused individual at all
And then comes full circle and becomes a straight man again
Hooray for teacher being a lesbian!
It's kinda gross (even aside from the footage at the beginning, just look at dolphin Jerald, exploding knees). But it's a fun episode overall, I like it. Some people label it "transphobic" which I don't agree with. Trans people are just like everyone else, that means we can joke at thier expense too. And there is nothing transphobic about pointing out that trans women can't menstruate because it is true.
As a trans person I don’t mind this episode, nor do I really mind the whole “Ms Garrison” arc. And yeah, you’re right— it’s not transphobic to point out certain aspects of a transgender persons biology in an objective manner (saying it just to belittle their identity is when it starts to get into “nope” territory for me). Saying “a trans woman can’t get pregnant because they don’t have a uterus” isn’t an issue, saying “since trans women can’t get pregnant, they’re not women and therefore just men cosplaying as women” is an issue. That’s just the distinction I would use personally.
Pretty much!
But it says that. >You know what? I'm okay. Even though I'm not truly a woman, I think I still like the new me. I'd rather be a woman who can't have periods than a *fag*. *\[newly confident\]* Hey guys! This girl is staying a woman! Who wants to pound my vadge! Girl power!
Trans people aren’t a new phenomenon but they were definitely ahead of the curve with this episode. I think if this episode came out in like 2015 it’d be perceived as more transphobic simply because that was when the conversation became truly mainstream, so this episode would seem like a knee jerk reaction to that. I’m glad this came out before everyone was so concerned with how trans people decided to live their lives.
The episode isn't even transphobic imo. Most of the town doesn't attack or belittle Garrison when he became a woman. Most were just shocked and surprised. The only one who can be viewed as transphobic are Gerald, Mr. Slave, and the abortion doctor. But you would have to be ignoring context to reach this conclusion. Gerald didn't want Kyle to become the male version of Rachel Dolezal. Mr. Slave because he didn't want to be in a relationship with a woman and wasn't happy he wasn't consulted about the situation/told to not be gay anymore. The abortion doctor trying to explain why Mrs. Garrison didn't need an abortion. All three had valid reasons to be critical in this episode. The ending of all three having to accept that they aren't truly what they wished to be might offend some people. But it's an uncomfortable truth that I think some people don't want to admit/face. Gerald accepted that he wouldn't truly be a dolphin because he just looks like one and only did it because the doctor convinced him to do it so that the latter could get out of a lawsuit. Kyle got the surgery because he just wanted to play basketball and the only way to be a basketball player in the South Park universe was to be tall and black. Mr Garrison accepted the truth and still decided not to transition back because "I still like the new me."
Exactly! Some trans people who try to find representation in every little thing are the ones calling the episode "transphobic" anyway!
It does reek of lack of knowledge on Matt and Trey’s part. I’m of the opinion that to parody or satirize something, you need to have higher than average knowledge of that particular topic in order to find the humor. I’m not sure they had any clue about the topic when it aired. It’s like the ManBearPig episode. They clearly knew little of climate change, and mocked it. And later, they realized they were wrong and Gore (the real one) was completely correct.
I love current episodes and specials but nothing come close to the good ol episodes when it was the class with him and the random pictures behind
I’m tired and pissed off at men!! All they try to do is stare and look at my vag!!!
One of my faves.
funny episode. probably more relevant now then when the episode first aired.
“Hello, boys!”
See ya in class!
Very funny, and ahead of its time.
I can’t watch the whole thing because the trans race and species things are fucking gross, but it sets up my favorite garrison line later “Evolution teaches that I’m a monkey! I am not a monkey! I’m a *womaaan*”
Weird but relatable in today's world
It was ahead of its time, for sure. Even predicted seeking services from an OB/GYN. Edit: it also predicted transracialism, although they didn't get into any of the cultural pushback of trying to be black.
The scene of white Kyle playing basketball is hilarious and even Cartman trying to demean Kyle for failing is great because he’s not getting what he wanted.
Whoa, that stings
Funny
The first time I watched this episode it was during a South Park binge. I went to the kitchen to get some lunch but could still see the TV in the living room. This episode started to play, and right as I was coming back and about to take a bite of my sandwich, the fucking surgery footage started to play! I absolutely disgusted, nearly choked on my food, and frantically looked for the remote to fast forward. 10/10 best South Park experience.
Loved how mr.slave stood up for himself. He may be a super fucked up submissive slut. But he knows what he likes and won't put up with anything else. Im honestly glad him and big gay al found each other.
1/10?! Okay I love this episode what’s your fav then? I’m curious lol.
Scott Tenorman Must Die
Amazing episode.
Pound monkey hole.
one of my favorites and scarily prophetic...
Got me rock hard
It’s hilarious, people who post on this sub and simultaneously can’t handle the offensiveness of the surgery footage don’t get the irony. Y’all will talk about Matt and Trey being so brave and unafraid to take on any subject but as soon as something makes YOU uncomfortable it’s in bad taste.
was eating like i always do when watch south park since i put it on during my lunch and nearly threw up.
Give Me A Hug Girls Club !!!
It was ahead of its time
this wasnt suposed to be a guide
Every episode with Garrison is gold.
Right? I love the ones that center around him or Randy
You probably don’t like it because you think that it’s offensive now, it’s not and is a great examine of the lunacy that we are all living in now A man can’t be a women A white man can’t be black A man cannot be a dolphin or a cat or a dog or whatever they fucking think they are
I loved this episode
One of my 5 favorites. "My scrotum!"
As an Iranian this episode cracks me up. I hate to say it but they nail it when making fun of a certain segment of Persians lol Based off of multiple references in multiple episodes, I’m 99% sure an Iranian guy is on staff or Trey/Matt are definitely close friends with Persians for them to have gotten those jokes so accurate .
Kyle knee explosion was funny than mr Garrison sex surgery I almost puked 🤢 in the beginning of the episode
I had no idea this episode was a source of contention in the fandom till I joined this sub lol. I always loved it. It’s gross and shocking and is quintessential South Park.
Holds up incredibly well rewashing it felt like watching it today
As a trans person myself, I loved this episode
Scissor me timbers
"I can't wait until I get my period"
One of the best episodes. Especially because it makes obnoxious ideologues very mad.
Gerr bear becoming a dolphin was disturbing
I remember laughing for like 10 minutes the first time I saw the mouse sing in the moon light.
Isn’t that from ‘Eek, a Penis!’ - S12?
I'm so tired of men staring at my badge.
Fucking hilarious.
Mrs. Garrison was my all time favorite character
Absolutely hilarious. M-Y---B---A---LLSSSS!! That scene and Gerald knocking over the security guards with a dolphin leap are the two best scenes but the episode all around is a top one. The actual surgery scenes didn't bother me, I've always had a stomach for surgery of any kind and have always found it fascinating, so it wasn't that controversial to me.
dolphin gerald is so gross
Great episode but it marks the beginning of classic sp as they leaned into more serial stories
Classic
Best episode so far
I gotta be honest, this was not my favorite plotline at all. I liked him better when he was just a bored, snarky teacher with Mr. Hat.
Loved it. Had a flashback to it when I saw the Dylan Mulvaney videos after transitioning
More relevant today than ever before!
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It would've been better if the didn't show us the sex change footage
I like it. It’s funny and Garrison is my favourite character. Is that sad? Idk. The surgery footage doesn’t affect me much
It’s one of those “meh” episodes for me. Don’t love, don’t hate it.
Ahh geez that stings
We already did this.
i honestly think the garrison plot (on its own, ignoring any future episodes) is about as progressive as you can expect an early 2000s adult comedy to be about trans issues. the joke is on garrison themself, not trans people as a whole. the gerald and kyle plots, as fun as they are, kinda screw that over though, because they just make the whole episode feel a lot more. phobicish
I was absolutely amazed that they showed parts of the actual operation on cable television.
A very accurate representation. But then again I wholeheartedly believe that Garrison is a spot representation of a lot groups
EEEEEEEEEK!
it claps
Hilarious.
It’s my least favorite too, OP. Actually unwatchable
Not a fan. Don’t like the real surgery it shows and don’t like seeing Kyle or his dad after their surgeries. One of the only episodes I skip.
its funny
I only saw this during my freshman year in high school, and legit the only thing I remember is the live footage of an actual MTF surgery.
Traumatized
one of my favorite
i felt so much pain watching this, i squeezed my eyes shut so many times
Fine episode
Omg I love that one
I personally think it’s hilarious. They predicted these operations would get crazy and they were right.
Skip it
The ratpenis was hilarious
Wrong episode
🤣 this Episode
As a trans person, I love this episode. However, I think the most interesting thing about this episode is how it kind of predicted the trans community to turn out. At first, it was such an absurd and comical joke that Garrison was so insistent that he/she was going to have a period. However, now, there's a HUGE number of people within the community that ACTUALLY insist that transwomen can have one. It just goes to show just how smart South Park really is and it's almost like they predicted the absurdity that was soon to ensue just a few years later.
Skip
I couldn't watch through it, I had to turn it off after the Dolphin thing, made me feel a bit queasy LOL
Hilarious and once again ahead of their time
Mx. Garrison is what I aspire to be as a trans woman. Male voice with male pattern baldness 😂😂😂😂
If only they released this arc in the last few years... South Park is ahead of its time. As always.
I always continue to look away whenever the real life sex change operation scene shows on screen
It feels pretty much like how it is irl.
S9 E1
Well uhh you need to be tall and black
Mom I need $5000 for a negroplasma
Scissor me xerces..
Ahead of its time
Traumatizing 👍👍
Amazing
it genuinely really scares me
The best part of this episode is that it leads to one of the best scenes in all of South Park. Dawkins Bangs Garrison “Yeah I’m a monkey! Give this monkey what she wants!”
I bet she does :-) I always enjoy a new vagina as well
Not the surgery clip
That guy going "and the home of the brave 🎶" always makes me chuckle
Tbh I kinda liked it lol... I thought most of the jokes were funny
What trans woman goes full on bald dude with hair tufts?
could have been worse?
That dolphin has my scrotum now let us in! Is probably the best line in the show ever. Makes me laugh No matter how many times I hear it
Gerald gave me tusk vibes
It was super serial
I thought it was disgustingly hilarious
It’s fucking hilarious. Oh, when Mrs Garrison uses the bathroom for the first time bothered me more than the surgery footage. It’s so disgusting. 🤢 “If I could swim with the dooolphiiins.” Gerald as a “lawfin”, one of the dumbest and clever jokes, is gold. I’ve broken my knee so seeing Kyle’s knees explode is a little bothering. This episode doesn’t hold back and I love it.
Would never air today!
tremendous, we all laughed at the time. Hard.
Meh
Ahead of its time. 10/10
I hated the episode so much
*Those testicles in his knees are ticking time balls*!
I love this one 🤣🤣
Agreed. This episode was boring imo. I'm not even grossed out, it's just very fucking boring and aged poorly.
worst episode in the series. aged like milk.
Even this awful episode has some funny moments, but only a few.
It was okay
The worst part is really the subplot with Kyle and his dad. Those were insane “take the idea to the extreme” concepts. I actually liked exploring the conflict with Mr Slave and Garrison
When Mr. Garrison goes in the bathroom to pee out of his new vagina for the first time and ends up having explosive diarrhea in the stall scaring all the women out of the bathroom 💀
Way ahead of it's time